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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 03 2016 20:04 GMT
#591
Actually didn't someone mention that Skynx said he tries to open scummy to see who goes after him?

If that's true then I have to throw out my line of thought about his early game. Clearly scum!Skynx would try to replicate that type of play from his towngames.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 03 2016 20:16 GMT
#596
On November 04 2016 05:06 Calix wrote:
I don't think ExO being defensive is scummy although yes, his case and tunnel against me was bad. It can also be coming from the POV of an overzealous townie. I believe that he's tunneled before as town, no?

However I'm having a hard time thinking that given that he just popped in to slap the third vote on your train and didn't even explain himself until I asked -_-


I really do think Exo should be the lynch today.

Seems way too likely that he is scum to me, but hey even if he isn't we can see he isn't adding anything to the game and is only VT so not a bad lynch right?

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Kinda joking there... kinda...


I might even try and write another case about him later if I feel like it.

Also I might cry a little if I get mislynched D1 two games in a row...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 03 2016 20:23 GMT
#598
On November 04 2016 05:09 Calix wrote:
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On November 04 2016 05:04 Tictock wrote:
Actually didn't someone mention that Skynx said he tries to open scummy to see who goes after him?

If that's true then I have to throw out my line of thought about his early game. Clearly scum!Skynx would try to replicate that type of play from his towngames.


Eh?

Your first line is correct. Skynx claims that he acts scummy to see who goes for the low-hanging fruit as a town tactic.

Your conclusion is making me scratch my head. I don't see how learning about Skynx' play-style -> thinking he'd replicate it as scum -> entrance posts are null.


Because I was giving his early posts a townlean because he was drawing attn to himself and scum tend to not want to do that.

However if Skynx has an established meta (and more importantly is self aware of it) of playing scummy at the start of the game to draw attention then my initial thinking no longer applies. Scum!skynx would go out of his way to act scummy at the start simply to replicate that aspect of his townplay.

And thinking about it more this was it would make Skynx's early posts make more sense if he is scum trying to replicate his bad start of day play. Stuff like calling the entire early game NAI, and complaining about reading constantly make a bit more sense coming from scum trolling than town trolling. However this is prob a line of thought that only makes sense to me.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 03 2016 20:27 GMT
#599
On November 04 2016 05:19 Calix wrote:
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On November 04 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:06 Calix wrote:
I don't think ExO being defensive is scummy although yes, his case and tunnel against me was bad. It can also be coming from the POV of an overzealous townie. I believe that he's tunneled before as town, no?

However I'm having a hard time thinking that given that he just popped in to slap the third vote on your train and didn't even explain himself until I asked -_-


I really do think Exo should be the lynch today.

Seems way too likely that he is scum to me, but hey even if he isn't we can see he isn't adding anything to the game and is only VT so not a bad lynch right?

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Kinda joking there... kinda...


I might even try and write another case about him later if I feel like it.

Also I might cry a little if I get mislynched D1 two games in a row...


I wouldn't say that Rels added anything new to the game either. He hasn't claimed VT but I think your argument is applicable to him as well.

Meanwhile ExO was the reason that the game kicked off the way that it did with how he reacted.

If you're town and you get mislynched on D1 yet again, that would be hilarious.


Nah, I stand by what I said about Rels. His posts seem like he is just adding what thoughts he has to the game, not posting stuff to try and look good.

Why do you seem to want to TR Exo so bad?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 03 2016 20:42 GMT
#612
On November 04 2016 05:30 Calix wrote:
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On November 04 2016 05:27 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:19 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:06 Calix wrote:
I don't think ExO being defensive is scummy although yes, his case and tunnel against me was bad. It can also be coming from the POV of an overzealous townie. I believe that he's tunneled before as town, no?

However I'm having a hard time thinking that given that he just popped in to slap the third vote on your train and didn't even explain himself until I asked -_-


I really do think Exo should be the lynch today.

Seems way too likely that he is scum to me, but hey even if he isn't we can see he isn't adding anything to the game and is only VT so not a bad lynch right?

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Kinda joking there... kinda...


I might even try and write another case about him later if I feel like it.

Also I might cry a little if I get mislynched D1 two games in a row...


I wouldn't say that Rels added anything new to the game either. He hasn't claimed VT but I think your argument is applicable to him as well.

Meanwhile ExO was the reason that the game kicked off the way that it did with how he reacted.

If you're town and you get mislynched on D1 yet again, that would be hilarious.


Nah, I stand by what I said about Rels. His posts seem like he is just adding what thoughts he has to the game, not posting stuff to try and look good.

Why do you seem to want to TR Exo so bad?


Are you implying that ExO/ Calix is a possible scum team? If not, why ask the question?

That's also an ignorant question to ask to begin with. I initially town-read ExO and have recently expressed doubts about that given his sub-par posting...which were in the posts that you responded to.


I know you started to change your mind, and no I don't really think you two are on a team.

Neither of those points matter, I just wanted to know what had you thinking Exo was town before.

I actually do read and usually double check stuff before I ask questions you know.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 03 2016 20:49 GMT
#617
On November 04 2016 05:34 ExO_ wrote:
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On November 04 2016 05:33 darthfoley wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:28 ExO_ wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:06 Calix wrote:
I don't think ExO being defensive is scummy although yes, his case and tunnel against me was bad. It can also be coming from the POV of an overzealous townie. I believe that he's tunneled before as town, no?

However I'm having a hard time thinking that given that he just popped in to slap the third vote on your train and didn't even explain himself until I asked -_-


I really do think Exo should be the lynch today.

Seems way too likely that he is scum to me, but hey even if he isn't we can see he isn't adding anything to the game and is only VT so not a bad lynch right?

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Kinda joking there... kinda...


I might even try and write another case about him later if I feel like it.

Also I might cry a little if I get mislynched D1 two games in a row...


Either you believe my VT claim, or you don't. It's interesting logic to me that you would be okay with lynching me because "I'm only VT" if you don't believe my VT claim.


Is this really all you're gonna contribute? Your filter is so subpar right now and you going back to the VT claim stuff?




Are you going to ignore the inconsistency with Ticktock here? HE brought up that I was only VT, not me, and I responded that it makes no sense to kill me because I'm only VT if you don't believe my VT claim.


Interesting... I wonder if there was a reason that I included that little spoiler in that post...

Nah couldn't be. I don't think about what I post.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 03 2016 20:56 GMT
#622
On November 04 2016 05:48 Calix wrote:
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On November 04 2016 05:42 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:30 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:27 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:19 Calix wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 05:06 Calix wrote:
I don't think ExO being defensive is scummy although yes, his case and tunnel against me was bad. It can also be coming from the POV of an overzealous townie. I believe that he's tunneled before as town, no?

However I'm having a hard time thinking that given that he just popped in to slap the third vote on your train and didn't even explain himself until I asked -_-


I really do think Exo should be the lynch today.

Seems way too likely that he is scum to me, but hey even if he isn't we can see he isn't adding anything to the game and is only VT so not a bad lynch right?

+ Show Spoiler +
Kinda joking there... kinda...


I might even try and write another case about him later if I feel like it.

Also I might cry a little if I get mislynched D1 two games in a row...


I wouldn't say that Rels added anything new to the game either. He hasn't claimed VT but I think your argument is applicable to him as well.

Meanwhile ExO was the reason that the game kicked off the way that it did with how he reacted.

If you're town and you get mislynched on D1 yet again, that would be hilarious.


Nah, I stand by what I said about Rels. His posts seem like he is just adding what thoughts he has to the game, not posting stuff to try and look good.

Why do you seem to want to TR Exo so bad?


Are you implying that ExO/ Calix is a possible scum team? If not, why ask the question?

That's also an ignorant question to ask to begin with. I initially town-read ExO and have recently expressed doubts about that given his sub-par posting...which were in the posts that you responded to.


I know you started to change your mind, and no I don't really think you two are on a team.

Neither of those points matter, I just wanted to know what had you thinking Exo was town before.

I actually do read and usually double check stuff before I ask questions you know.


Because I think his defensiveness/ role claim/ tunneling are anti-town behaviours. I don't see a compelling scum narrative for enacting such behaviours.

The only one which I can see for ExO is: scum!ExO sees Calix's question -> scum!ExO thinks that he can use the question to spin a scum narrative on Calix -> scum!ExO goes hard on Calix in hopes of starting a bandwagon -> scum!ExO goes in too deep and gets a shitload of unwanted attention on him -> scum!ExO retires from the thread until attention goes away before he retracts his Calix scum-read.

I feel like the townie explanation is a bit simpler though.


I'm seeing it more like he rolled scum after just getting out of a game as scum so drops his gif plan and instead claims VT. You start questioning him him about it and he can't think of a good explanation. So instead he fakes some OMGUS and makes up some BS about you trying to get him to post gifs. Later he backs off this push claiming it was for reactions (but never followed through with that) and then decides to sheep skynx's case.

I'm really not seeing the town narrative, hence why I think he is scum.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 03 2016 21:03 GMT
#628
On November 04 2016 05:55 ExO_ wrote:
Just to make sure you don't misunderstand, I'm implying he claims that lynching me is okay because he thinks I'm either scum or if I'm not I'm just VT.

That's scum logic. He's saying that because he believes it, but because he thinks it'll be easy to get town to vote for me.


It's actually surprisingly hard to get people to vote obv scum.

I'm not even just talking about this game either.

Also you can ague this point to death if you want. My read on you is pretty independent of your claim, though at this rate your filter is just gunna be you talking about it.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 03 2016 21:09 GMT
#639
On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)


Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around.

What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 04 2016 05:28 GMT
#816
I hope we are all ready for a multi-post!

On November 04 2016 06:27 Rels wrote:
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On November 04 2016 02:39 NeverUnlucky wrote:
blablabla

I find it weird that he had FM as lock-scum just 4 hours into the game.
On November 03 2016 06:51 Tictock wrote:
On November 03 2016 06:38 Foreman wrote:
On November 03 2016 06:37 Tictock wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:57 Foreman wrote:
If Calix is town, there's a fair chance that marghell is scum.


What prompted this?


Filter me.

That's why I want reads and original content from them.


Yea I did that before posting, I'm a bit confused why you went from being uber-tunneled on Calix to suddenly considering her as town.

I'll be honest, I was thinking you were lock scum up till this post but it gave me pause because I consider thinking about people from both alignments is a good town trait. However your posts seem more like you are just shifting focus away from Calix to another target but your read really hasn't changed.

Right now I'd stick with my initial read that you are scum and attribute this shift to being told in your QT that you are tunneling too much.


Good find, it is pretty weird. TT why was Foreman lock scum before that post ?


Kus everything before that, which is basically the first page of his filter, was just tunneling Calix for being tryhard without talking about anyone else.




On November 04 2016 06:37 ExO_ wrote:
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On November 04 2016 06:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:34 ExO_ wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:30 ExO_ wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:27 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:11 ExO_ wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)


Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around.

What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it.


Starting a discussion is EXACTLY what town wants to do. And its exactly what I did. Implying that I wouldn't do that is town is at best misleading. What I did drew a lot of attention to me, you really think thats what I would do as scum? Instead of posting a few gifs and joking around a bit?

please.

Lynch TT its so obvious at this point

On October 31 2016 09:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Sure. c: One more /in.

This is what is going to happen this game:

1. I will roll town.
2. Game starts; unoriginal players'll say "First confirmed town!"
3. One town will have a weird or even scummy entry.
4. Calix will tunnel said player. NeverUnlucky will have a good read on Calix based on the tunnel.
5. Said town will claim that the intent behind his entry was to stir up conversation.
6. Everyone will mock him and some will town-read him.
7. Active players’ll shitpost, lurkers’ll lurk.
8. One player will case another player who’ll become the main wagon, but the case is weak, thus :
9. People will initiate a CFD at EoD, and a town will die.

1 to 7, check.

8 and 9 to go.


Calix hasn't tunneled anyone. You're full of shit

Who's not reading the game now?


Are you serious? lol.

Show me where Calix is tunneling, and not actively considering all reads and possibilities. Give me a break

Pointless argument, dismissed.


If you're going to acuse Calix of tunneling, you better be able to back it up.

Calix you Town reading NU? because if you're scum reading him I think he might be a decent lynch today


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On November 04 2016 07:17 mahrgell wrote:
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On November 04 2016 07:15 NeverUnlucky wrote:
mahr, with cakepie's announcement, I'm pretty much mod-confirmed.

Is this your thing? Trying to modconfirm yourself day1?


This is quite sadly his thing.




On November 04 2016 08:24 Foreman wrote:
Found an outlet.

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On November 03 2016 23:21 Tictock wrote:
Rels what happened to you? Your play the past few games is like your heart just isn't in it anymore.


I can't see scum posting this. Do I really need to explain why?

@TT: How did you get from:

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On November 04 2016 00:56 Tictock wrote:
In other news I see Skynx decided to start playing the game and I'm not hating it so far.


to:

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On November 04 2016 01:30 Tictock wrote:
Exo and Skynx are my top picks for lynch right now.


?

(emphasis mine)


Mostly the fact that "Not hating it" doesn't translate to "He's town"




On November 04 2016 08:31 Foreman wrote:
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On November 04 2016 05:04 Tictock wrote:
Actually didn't someone mention that Skynx said he tries to open scummy to see who goes after him?

If that's true then I have to throw out my line of thought about his early game. Clearly scum!Skynx would try to replicate that type of play from his towngames.


This sounds like TT is revoking a townlean from Skynx if I'm reading correctly... but he already said Skynx was one of his favored lynches.

I'm not following this. Please explain?


I was referring to the fact that I had initially townread Skynx due to his early play.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 04 2016 05:30 GMT
#817
On November 04 2016 06:11 ExO_ wrote:
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On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)


Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around.

What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it.


Starting a discussion is EXACTLY what town wants to do. And its exactly what I did. Implying that I wouldn't do that is town is at best misleading. What I did drew a lot of attention to me, you really think thats what I would do as scum? Instead of posting a few gifs and joking around a bit?

please.

Lynch TT its so obvious at this point


Cute...

but you really never did anything with that now did you?

On November 03 2016 15:11 ExO_ wrote:
I'm tired. I just got home. I don't feel like reading through the read. But I'll tell you my thoughts in a nutshell from the point I left.

I jumped on to Calix initially and continued to pressure him(her?) long after I thought she was scum. I do think the way he entered the thread was dumb and likely to inflame me. But his responses afterwards seemed very much from a towny perspective. I continued the pressure to see who would jump on the bandwagon with me in an attempt to press low hanging fruit.

I'll look at it tomorrow, but NeverUnlucky/foreman are both going to be the first people I look at.



Your follow up to this was voting me kus you liked Skynx's case and think he is a cool guy.



Now it seems like you've forgotten you even scumread me.
On November 04 2016 08:42 ExO_ wrote:
NU is actively borrowing his reads for rels in an attempt to push me, with Marhgwell being 3rd on a wagon.

Marhgwell is scum, and probably NU


And apparently everyone who is voting you is also scum, so your reads are just OMGUS.

On November 04 2016 09:16 ExO_ wrote:
Darthfoley/Skynk have the shortest filters and might be good places to look as well. Going off filter length NU/Calix shouldn't be scum because they are so far and above everyone else. I'd find it hard to be posting that much as scum


Which is now effectively half the game being thrown in for good measure. I guess Skynx is also not a cool guy anymore either.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 04 2016 05:34 GMT
#818
I'm going to bed, I should be around for EoD. I'll do some updated reads then.

I still believe in the Exo wagon, and I expect to hear pretty convincing reasons why anyone is voting anybody else or is still townreading the guy when I wake up.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 04 2016 15:07 GMT
#853
Yo I'm around, and should be popping in and out through EoD.

Went out with my roommates last night and not feeling like doing much reading right now so if I missed anything in my reading last night or since then you should hound me about it.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 04 2016 15:14 GMT
#854
On November 04 2016 06:37 ExO_ wrote:
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On November 04 2016 06:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:34 ExO_ wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:30 ExO_ wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:27 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:11 ExO_ wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.

His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think)


Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around.

What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it.


Starting a discussion is EXACTLY what town wants to do. And its exactly what I did. Implying that I wouldn't do that is town is at best misleading. What I did drew a lot of attention to me, you really think thats what I would do as scum? Instead of posting a few gifs and joking around a bit?

please.

Lynch TT its so obvious at this point

On October 31 2016 09:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Sure. c: One more /in.

This is what is going to happen this game:

1. I will roll town.
2. Game starts; unoriginal players'll say "First confirmed town!"
3. One town will have a weird or even scummy entry.
4. Calix will tunnel said player. NeverUnlucky will have a good read on Calix based on the tunnel.
5. Said town will claim that the intent behind his entry was to stir up conversation.
6. Everyone will mock him and some will town-read him.
7. Active players’ll shitpost, lurkers’ll lurk.
8. One player will case another player who’ll become the main wagon, but the case is weak, thus :
9. People will initiate a CFD at EoD, and a town will die.

1 to 7, check.

8 and 9 to go.


Calix hasn't tunneled anyone. You're full of shit

Who's not reading the game now?


Are you serious? lol.

Show me where Calix is tunneling, and not actively considering all reads and possibilities. Give me a break

Pointless argument, dismissed.


If you're going to acuse Calix of tunneling, you better be able to back it up.

Calix you Town reading NU? because if you're scum reading him I think he might be a decent lynch today


I not so subtly hinted at this last night, and coming back to it today I can't help but reach the same conclusion.

Doesn't the bolded line look line something meant for a scum QT?

Is this a massive slip or am I crazy?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 04 2016 15:33 GMT
#861
On November 05 2016 00:23 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 00:14 Tictock wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:37 ExO_ wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:34 ExO_ wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:30 ExO_ wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:27 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:11 ExO_ wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:
[quote]

Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around.

What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it.


Starting a discussion is EXACTLY what town wants to do. And its exactly what I did. Implying that I wouldn't do that is town is at best misleading. What I did drew a lot of attention to me, you really think thats what I would do as scum? Instead of posting a few gifs and joking around a bit?

please.

Lynch TT its so obvious at this point

On October 31 2016 09:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Sure. c: One more /in.

This is what is going to happen this game:

1. I will roll town.
2. Game starts; unoriginal players'll say "First confirmed town!"
3. One town will have a weird or even scummy entry.
4. Calix will tunnel said player. NeverUnlucky will have a good read on Calix based on the tunnel.
5. Said town will claim that the intent behind his entry was to stir up conversation.
6. Everyone will mock him and some will town-read him.
7. Active players’ll shitpost, lurkers’ll lurk.
8. One player will case another player who’ll become the main wagon, but the case is weak, thus :
9. People will initiate a CFD at EoD, and a town will die.

1 to 7, check.

8 and 9 to go.


Calix hasn't tunneled anyone. You're full of shit

Who's not reading the game now?


Are you serious? lol.

Show me where Calix is tunneling, and not actively considering all reads and possibilities. Give me a break

Pointless argument, dismissed.


If you're going to acuse Calix of tunneling, you better be able to back it up.

Calix you Town reading NU? because if you're scum reading him I think he might be a decent lynch today


I not so subtly hinted at this last night, and coming back to it today I can't help but reach the same conclusion.

Doesn't the bolded line look line something meant for a scum QT?

Is this a massive slip or am I crazy?


No it doesn't.

Why would scum!ExO make a post meant for the scum QT in the same post that he talks to NU?


Thats why it's called a slip.

I have to admit it's a shitty way to be found out if you are scum kus you've been playing really well.

It makes a ton of sense though, kus you've been really weird about your reads on both myself and Exo. You townread Exo forever without ever having reasons to (you even said yourself, you just didn't see the scum modivations but didn't have any reasons to TR him). Most of pages 30-40 you keep talking like you could go either way on me and keep telling people to look at the case on me, never try to come to much of a conclusion yourself.

You also made that really paranoid response when I asked you about your townread on Exo.

The more I've thought about it the more it makes sense.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 04 2016 17:20 GMT
#911
Feeling weird about putting together reads since I'm tin-foiling Calix fairly hard atm. Trying to put it aside kus it really assumes that Exo is scum which is kinda bad pre-flip. Having a hard time seeing that post as anything else though.

Anyways some reads that are a bit less in flux. Just going off the top of my head.
Town:
Rels + Show Spoiler +
I stated earlier that I felt like Rels was just dropping his thoughts into the game and that suggested to me that he's town. As he's put time into the game I just get more and more of that feeling. Pretty sure he is town.

mahrgell + Show Spoiler +
Overall just pretty genuine and seems to be invested in solving the game. Sorry nothing particular is coming to mind, just tone and feels I guess.

NeverUnlucky + Show Spoiler +
Just seems to be too all over the place and emotional to be scum imo. Idk just feels really geniune in how he goes back and forth on peopleI also actually like Rel's point about NU trying to mod confirm himself, but I also hate to reward that behavior.


Nullish:
Foreman + Show Spoiler +
Probably my most null read. I don't feel like he's brought much to the table or done anything that makes me think he is town. Similarly though nothing really suggests to me that he is scum, besides the fact that he kinda ignored half the game early on while tunneling Calix.

darthfoley + Show Spoiler +
Honestly just haven't spent much effort reading Darth. What I have read makes me lean town on him just for general read progression and putting good thoughts out there.

Skynx + Show Spoiler +
I appreciate the effort Skynx has been putting in during the latter half of this phase, though it seems like we are reading different games. Tempted to put him down as scum but I'm wondering if he's just tunneled and I'm feeling like it's unlikely he is scum with Exo atm.


Scum:
ExO_ + Show Spoiler +
I think I've said plenty about Exo, and there is nothing new to note.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 04 2016 17:23 GMT
#918
On November 05 2016 01:56 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 01:53 Calix wrote:
On November 05 2016 01:49 Skynx wrote:
On November 05 2016 01:43 Calix wrote:
No. It's not my job to look for cases for you. That's on you. Town should be reaching out to the town, not vice versa.

With your reads, how is 'retaliation' a town tell?

I don't relate to your DF read.

How is an over-aggressive tone scum-indicative? What examples do you have?

ok.

Retaliation is a town tell because he's getting attacked non-stop for bad reasons. Check vivax and me from Dota mafia, which I know you have been following which is completely the opposite.

I dunno who you're accounting to with the over-aggressive tone, Foreman? I'm not scum reading him, I got no material i specified I didn't read him much.



Yes I have been following it. I still don't follow your point though.

If you think ExO is town then what are your thoughts on how the trains have formed?

In terms of your cases, I'm really not convinced by your NU case and I didn't find anything damning when I filtered TT earlier unless I go full tinfoil and I didn't like DF's case.

Yeah, Foreman. If something is 'over-aggressive' then does that not imply that it's scummy?

I'll build up on both TT and NU cases in the night to convince more people i guess. I feel like Exo lynch will only strengthen my point.


Fair warning, I'm prob gunna call TMI on this if Exo ends up flipping town.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 04 2016 17:27 GMT
#924
On November 05 2016 02:05 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 01:49 Rels wrote:
On November 05 2016 01:19 ExO_ wrote:
I just woke up, and I have to run errands. I'll probably be back before EoD but I can't swear to it. What I will say is this:

I came into the thread just saying whatever I felt like. It's how I always play town. I don't try to carefully construct my posts I just say whats on my mind. I did a lot of OMGUS. When I finally sat and calmly looked at the game, I put a little suspicion on DF/Skynx because of short filter, and rels for a similar reason. But I've been attacked for switching views, for not tunneling, for tunneling at the start, and a whole variety of other things.

I don't know exactly how I could defend myself at this point. I've done my best to make you realize that I'm town. But a LOT of people are tunneling on me. I'm not sure what else I'd have to do to prove I'm town.

The idea that I had a scum slip is a complete joke. If I die today:

Lynch TT/Rels. Both are experienced townies yet are moronically pushing this lynch. Especially TT. After that I would look for people who coasted and just hopped on the wagon day 1.

Do not Lynch Calix: Calix is the most most obviously confirmed town here. I want to say NU as well because of filter length, but I'm not sure.


Anywho I'm running some errands now like I said. I should be back before EoD but my motivation to play this game is basically out the window.

This is so bad. This martiring won't get you through this lynch. You're saying you can't defend yourself 'cause you're attacked whatever thing you chose to do; well, you could defend yourself by pointing out WHY other people are scummy.
In this very post you admit that your OMGUS was bad; that after re evaluating you think one of DF / Skynx / Rels are probably scum; THEN you go on "lynch TT and Rels 'cause they should know better than pushing me" which is the FUCKING DEFINITION OF OMGUS.

The last time you've stated reasons for your reads was your NU read yesterday. Since then it has been either OMGUS or filter size.


Perhaps you should consider that it's very difficult to make accurate reads right now when everyone is scum reading me and on my wagon. It's hard for me to not be OMGUS when everyone is voting for me, is it not?

That said, I think both you and TT are pushing me here past what makes sense. Especially the way TT came back into the thread last night and ignored the progression of my posts to make a point. He strung a bunch of posts together that were very far apart to make me look horrible.

either way I think at least one of you two should know better. Which makes me think at least one of you is scum. This isn't OMGUS, this is my honest thoughts.


There was no progression to talk about. You just spouted out scumreads.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 04 2016 17:34 GMT
#938
On November 05 2016 02:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 02:27 ExO_ wrote:
God I hope I can make it back home before EoD. In short do NOT let the people hard pushing me saying it reveals nothing about alignment if I flip town, get away with it.

They're covering their asses now because they know im about to flip town.

I genuinely think this is a very town response...

... which reinforces my Skynx scum-read.

CFD Skynx imo.


I disagree. Exo is still the best lynch.

Every single one of his posts has just been him trying to survive the day, this one included.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 04 2016 17:37 GMT
#942
On November 05 2016 02:35 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 02:34 Tictock wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 05 2016 02:27 ExO_ wrote:
God I hope I can make it back home before EoD. In short do NOT let the people hard pushing me saying it reveals nothing about alignment if I flip town, get away with it.

They're covering their asses now because they know im about to flip town.

I genuinely think this is a very town response...

... which reinforces my Skynx scum-read.

CFD Skynx imo.


I disagree. Exo is still the best lynch.

Every single one of his posts has just been him trying to survive the day, this one included.

That's not scum AI. I would not want to be lynched either if I had this many votes.


So then it's NAI.

Why would you townread him then?
I can take that responsibility.
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