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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 09 2016 10:26 GMT
#72
/in
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 21 2016 19:04 GMT
#135
carried kp can be roleblocked, tracked, watched etc. Factional kp is pure magic.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 27 2016 19:31 GMT
#181
/confirm
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 28 2016 09:26 GMT
#197
I'll spite lynch Onegu before D4 for sure so we should be fine.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 28 2016 23:45 GMT
#234
town? Really?

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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 28 2016 23:48 GMT
#236
On November 29 2016 08:46 Onegu wrote:
Dont believe you you rolled scum again Koshi.

I am too excited to even try to predict how I will play.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 28 2016 23:51 GMT
#241
On November 29 2016 08:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Onegu confirmed to be trigger happy lol. Anyways Koshi how you been?

I am awesome like always. Rolled 4 times mafia in a row, won 3 times, lost last game in a last second lynch or I would won as well.

But nothing compares to be able to play town and find mafia. I didn't play town for something like 5 months or longer. I am finally excited again. Great feeling.


I missed you LS. What have you been up to?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 28 2016 23:53 GMT
#243
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 28 2016 23:59 GMT
#252
On November 29 2016 08:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:51 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Onegu confirmed to be trigger happy lol. Anyways Koshi how you been?

I am awesome like always. Rolled 4 times mafia in a row, won 3 times, lost last game in a last second lynch or I would won as well.

But nothing compares to be able to play town and find mafia. I didn't play town for something like 5 months or longer. I am finally excited again. Great feeling.


I missed you LS. What have you been up to?

Cool I wish I could win more as scum honestly but the last time I triharded as scum my team shit the bucket except for Damdred
I been going to college (Still am but it getting close to the end of semester which gives me more time to play TL Mafia) that was all.

Town has been bleeding entire 2016. Couple great wins but abysmal record. Let's all just be supertownie and take this one ezpz.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 00:00 GMT
#254
On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.


wooo koshi going for easy bro points

I pick wolverine.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 00:02 GMT
#256
On November 29 2016 08:58 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.


Kus he wanted to play a game and is throwing stuff around to get the game moving.

Emp is a scum lean kus he's posting stuff but just jokey conversative + Show Spoiler +
Spell check tells me thats not a word, but I dissagree
things.

Neither of these things mean much since the game has barely started.

Someone wake me up when interesting shit has happened.

meh. I am not impressed by Onegu atm. But very maybe he is trying to over do it as town. It gave me a reverse effect.

Like how he called me and EC mafia felt too trolly while like you said his posts are a bit let's try the game going instant serious mode. There might be a disconnect.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 00:04 GMT
#258
On November 29 2016 09:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:59 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:51 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Onegu confirmed to be trigger happy lol. Anyways Koshi how you been?

I am awesome like always. Rolled 4 times mafia in a row, won 3 times, lost last game in a last second lynch or I would won as well.

But nothing compares to be able to play town and find mafia. I didn't play town for something like 5 months or longer. I am finally excited again. Great feeling.


I missed you LS. What have you been up to?

Cool I wish I could win more as scum honestly but the last time I triharded as scum my team shit the bucket except for Damdred
I been going to college (Still am but it getting close to the end of semester which gives me more time to play TL Mafia) that was all.

Town has been bleeding entire 2016. Couple great wins but abysmal record. Let's all just be supertownie and take this one ezpz.

If you are town we will have the game solved for us no problem just trust me like you did in tortoise ;D

Like I said. I am always awesome.
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I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 00:11 GMT
#263
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This game you want to be part of town because town will be awesome.
This game town will not slack. You will not slack because you are town.
This game will be the game that demotivates every mafia team in 2017.


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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 00:12 GMT
#264
On November 29 2016 09:11 Tictock wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:04 sicklucker wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:59 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:51 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Onegu confirmed to be trigger happy lol. Anyways Koshi how you been?

I am awesome like always. Rolled 4 times mafia in a row, won 3 times, lost last game in a last second lynch or I would won as well.

But nothing compares to be able to play town and find mafia. I didn't play town for something like 5 months or longer. I am finally excited again. Great feeling.


I missed you LS. What have you been up to?

Cool I wish I could win more as scum honestly but the last time I triharded as scum my team shit the bucket except for Damdred
I been going to college (Still am but it getting close to the end of semester which gives me more time to play TL Mafia) that was all.

Town has been bleeding entire 2016. Couple great wins but abysmal record. Let's all just be supertownie and take this one ezpz.

If you are town we will have the game solved for us no problem just trust me like you did in tortoise ;D


trust you how?

Obviously you didn't read that game
TLDR of that game: I lead a lynch on scum DYH about 30 minutes to 1 hour before deadline Day 2 and I got killed there.


However the question is, why should we trust you THIS game?

Because he will be awesome?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 00:15 GMT
#268
On November 29 2016 09:13 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I'm here. Game can start.

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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 00:16 GMT
#269
On November 29 2016 09:14 Onegu wrote:
Dont listen to Koshi I know he just wants me out of the game. Because he now knows I will tunnel him into oblivion. Damn scummer.

##Unvote

##Vote: Koshi

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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 00:21 GMT
#274
On November 29 2016 09:18 Tictock wrote:
Oh right, the whole Koshi vs Onegu thing.

I will prob ignore any and all of that just like Calix vs NU.

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This town is not lazy. You shall not be lazy.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 00:21 GMT
#275
On November 29 2016 09:19 Onegu wrote:
I actually like koshi. I just think he lost his mind at some point and I have to troll him until he gets it back...

I also like Koshi. So we have that in common. It is a start.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 00:33 GMT
#278
On November 29 2016 09:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

How so? I recognize myself in his all-over-the-place posts, and he's the townierest dude itt.

Also, this is a town post, mang
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On November 29 2016 08:23 Onegu wrote:
Where is everyone?

1) The timing was possibly off.
2) That post is one of the reasons I don't like Onegu. Not that post on its own. But as a part of his posting. That post is tryhard as fuck so early in the game. I don't know when this game started. But that comment is too soon. Too dry. Meh.


We will see. I am not convinced. I am also not going to judge people on single posts this game. But Onegu is marked due to his early game in my pov.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 00:45 GMT
#289
On November 29 2016 09:35 Tictock wrote:
I kinda feel like you are tryharding yourself there Koshi, trying real hard to find reasons to call Onegu mafia.

Yes. It is early and I am trying to explain my pov to you. That this isn't enough yet to call anybody mafia is quite obvious.

I am not concerned about my own play the next 48 hours. I rolled VT and I want to win. I would be surprised if not everybody is forced to read me 100% town for the rest of the game before EoD1.


I know LS and I am letting him do his thing. I like him atm.


I am not locked in on anything. Holyflare, Rels will hopefully impress me. If they come out to play hard, I will play hard with them and mafia is going to roll over and die. If they don't and this game slacks forward I will play my own game and it might be uglier.

People do things, we keep activity up. We lynch question marks. We confirm ourselves to each other. ezgame ezlife.

I am not in a hurry.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 00:51 GMT
#296
On November 29 2016 09:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 09:33 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

How so? I recognize myself in his all-over-the-place posts, and he's the townierest dude itt.

Also, this is a town post, mang
On November 29 2016 08:23 Onegu wrote:
Where is everyone?

1) The timing was possibly off.
2) That post is one of the reasons I don't like Onegu. Not that post on its own. But as a part of his posting. That post is tryhard as fuck so early in the game. I don't know when this game started. But that comment is too soon. Too dry. Meh.


We will see. I am not convinced. I am also not going to judge people on single posts this game. But Onegu is marked due to his early game in my pov.

Fair enough.

Though in regards to 2), wouldn't you say your earlier posts about how town'll play the game to be tryhard albeit a bit trollsome with the awesome part? They kindda set the tone for a tryhard game is what I'm trying to say.

Onegu can play a very serious and dry towngame (saw him do it only once though). This game is not that though. It's too trolly and tryhard at the same time. He is putting himself in the donkey position by continuously going after me like this. Which is a weird place to be in as tryhard serious selfrespecting town.

But again. I assume my posts around Onegu look definitive, but the guy is just a slight scum lean with some wtf over it. I understand that it is atypical for mafia to be the center of attention, which he himself put himself in, BUT I am not going to call anybody town for trashtier play this game. You play for the town, or you can hang.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 00:53 GMT
#299
On November 29 2016 09:52 mahrgell wrote:
Onegu seems to play the same style as NU did in NewbieMafia... Just spam nonsensical stuff, randomly bite somewhere and make it a pain for anyone who would ever consider reading his filter.

Exactly. Last game Dandel Ion did a great job in being disruptive and annoying as mafia and he got townread for it.

Stop doing that. Educate these players. Ignore them if they refuse. Hang them if we lack better options.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 00:54 GMT
#301
On November 29 2016 09:53 mahrgell wrote:
Btw, can we please follow the mod guideline of spoilering gifs... It is a pain to read this thread on a mobile. Really

Oh. I didn't read OP so I didn't notice. I will spoiler all future images.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 00:55 GMT
#303
On November 29 2016 09:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:46 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 28 2016 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys I here now I was busy and now I here what up?

Bam this was me as scum doing that sort of thing Onegu did the quote you townread him for.

Ehhhh, not quite the same vibe.

Your quoted post's tone is what makes it fucking mafia. You're acting all nicey-nice with the "Hey guys" and "what up" and giving an excuse for why you weren't there with the busy part. Onegu's post is not that. I don't think mafia would have made this post this early cus they would profit from inactivity and do not care about it.

Also, no, I have not read any of your games.

fyi. LS is an extremely nice guy.

You have trust issues if being nice = being mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 00:57 GMT
#305
On November 29 2016 09:55 mahrgell wrote:
As I mentioned NU: We need Calix as bone to check if he is on his usual "meta". So far his posts are way too readable.

Maybe he just improved his posting style though. He promised he would. Then again, he promised that at the beginning of Newbiemafia already ^.^

NU his newbie game entrance was blatantly obvious mafia. And his townplay is way too invested compared to his mafia play. Will be an easy read if he keeps up playing and keeps activity up.

Not worried about reading him.

More worried about keeping him in check in case he is town. rofl.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 01:01 GMT
#310
zzzZZZzzzzZZzzz
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 01:02 GMT
#311
ebowp fail gif
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 01:04 GMT
#313
On November 29 2016 10:01 mahrgell wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:57 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:55 mahrgell wrote:
As I mentioned NU: We need Calix as bone to check if he is on his usual "meta". So far his posts are way too readable.

Maybe he just improved his posting style though. He promised he would. Then again, he promised that at the beginning of Newbiemafia already ^.^

NU his newbie game entrance was blatantly obvious mafia. And his townplay is way too invested compared to his mafia play. Will be an easy read if he keeps up playing and keeps activity up.

Not worried about reading him.

More worried about keeping him in check in case he is town. rofl.


In what game was NU mafia? I played Newbie with him, there he was spammy, disturbing and town.
And I read the game before from him (sorry, lost name.. too lazy to check), but there he was also town, but also busy with Calix TvT all the game.

Can you link me his scumgame? (Do I really want to read his former filters??? REALLY?)

On November 29 2016 10:00 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 09:57 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:55 mahrgell wrote:
As I mentioned NU: We need Calix as bone to check if he is on his usual "meta". So far his posts are way too readable.

Maybe he just improved his posting style though. He promised he would. Then again, he promised that at the beginning of Newbiemafia already ^.^

NU his newbie game entrance was blatantly obvious mafia. And his townplay is way too invested compared to his mafia play. Will be an easy read if he keeps up playing and keeps activity up.

Not worried about reading him.

More worried about keeping him in check in case he is town. rofl.

wtf are you talking about



Reading these 2 posts it was probably not NU who was obvious mafia that game. Dnu, I was coaching some guy and I instantly saw some guy was mafia and so did the entire thread. Always thought that was NU.

I guess not. Still. NU easy read. Not worried.


ZZzzzzzZZzz time now for realsies.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 01:05 GMT
#314
On November 29 2016 10:04 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 10:01 mahrgell wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:57 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:55 mahrgell wrote:
As I mentioned NU: We need Calix as bone to check if he is on his usual "meta". So far his posts are way too readable.

Maybe he just improved his posting style though. He promised he would. Then again, he promised that at the beginning of Newbiemafia already ^.^

NU his newbie game entrance was blatantly obvious mafia. And his townplay is way too invested compared to his mafia play. Will be an easy read if he keeps up playing and keeps activity up.

Not worried about reading him.

More worried about keeping him in check in case he is town. rofl.


In what game was NU mafia? I played Newbie with him, there he was spammy, disturbing and town.
And I read the game before from him (sorry, lost name.. too lazy to check), but there he was also town, but also busy with Calix TvT all the game.

Can you link me his scumgame? (Do I really want to read his former filters??? REALLY?)

I never rolled mafia on TL.

I really hope he didn't confuse me with Lunaticman. I'd be on the edge of pulling another temper tantrum...

ohh yeah. it was him.

lol

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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 01:07 GMT
#318
See LS obvious town. (meta bois)
mahgrell also feels town for chill and supporting posts.

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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 01:08 GMT
#320
And now darthfoley comes in with some truth bombs.
game will be easy. Now I go to sleep.

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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 08:46 GMT
#437
On November 29 2016 10:29 darthfoley wrote:
So everyone is town basically

Yes. And that is true.

LS
darthfoley
Mahgrell
Koshi

all town.

On November 29 2016 11:57 Shapelog wrote:
Honestly do not know what to make of Koshi Trump (Make town great again 2016) shit right now. Kinda honestly enjoy it, as long as it is productive. None of it screams scum so far from what I read. As in regard to Onegu vs. Koshi, I know where he is coming from on those points, and saw them too reading through the game. I personally don't see it scummy honestly, but I do see koshi as a light townread for what he has done so far.

He also keep going after he stop talking about Onegu. I would like for him to explain his earlier sentiment on why LS good in his eyes. I've seen some of the LS I know, but some other stuff that worry me that I'll address later in this post. Like to bounce views from someone with the opposite view (this goes with anyone else as well

Onegu posting style I have not really seen from him. Therefore I am going to wait and see what comes out of it and read it from a contextual viewpoint.

I kinda get a ill tonal feeling from LS due to this post:
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On November 29 2016 10:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 29 2016 10:07 darthfoley wrote:
Howdy y'all

I decree that no one is allowed to town read LS for random shit capslock posts. Throwback to the cell mafia game; still a little salty about that.

slight town lead on NU/Koshi/mahrgell. I agreed with NU's point on LS in that it seemed a bit forced; don't understand the need to clarify when you last played. Koshi's intro play seems standard town and similar to the one game I've played with him. mahrgell's entrance reminds me of his town play last game.

Don't like emperor so far. Filter complete shite, though it's pretty early game. Same for siclucker; reminds me a bit of his cell mafia play early on iirc. I generally don't like trolly playstyles, so not sure what to make of Onegu so far. At least he's active.

I sorry that Damdred told me break that meta man I felt so guilty honestly and still a bit lost on trying to find a new town style. I am town this game so no need to worry I will carry us. Also since you are here what other thoughts you got?

Not only does this feel kinda like he's trying to twist the image. But it also doesn't make logical sense to say you are experimenting and trying to find a new style for your town play (impaling that your past one didn't work). Then saying i'm town, everything is fine, trust me. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but it didn't make sense.

Otherwise LS is playing like how I remember him to play early on.

Other people:
Darth sounds pretty fine, light townread for now.
Marg posted some stuff, didn't stand out to me one way or another.
Emp and SL posted and peaced.
Tictock is slight town read as well, though I need to analzye his posts some more.
NU still needs be work through.

I agree it reads extremely weird. My guess it comes from town though. Trying to figure out how they will play out this game / play in future games. Creating some sort of identity/meta.

If that sentence comes from mafia it is mafia!LS making excuses he wont look like his normal town self and is trying to figure out a new playstyle. And it doesn't' read like that.

But keeping pressure on LS is not horrible. Makes it easier for me to continuously feel his alliance to town.

On November 29 2016 12:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also you still haven't explained why you claimed cop Shape so please answer this because I don't know in what world you thought it was a good call to claim cop.

Wouldn't too bothered with it. It's mafia doing wifom or town being wifom.


On November 29 2016 12:57 emperorchampion wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt.

Look at his entry:
On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened.

He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness.

That looks forced.

Flagged this post, I dun like it.
1) It looks like you're trying to make something out of nothing re: throwing something at LS.
2) It reads like you're smooshing two thoughts together, which makes me think that you had some conclusion in mind and are making the evidence fit that.

Requires further investigation.

Potential good post.

On November 29 2016 13:06 emperorchampion wrote:
If all of the people who are giving "slight scum leans" or greater to me are all town I would be quite surprised indeed. Good place to start looking, for my self as well as others.

This makes no sense. Out of a bunch of people some people might be mafia, but that is only based on mathematics. I agree you are maybe the easiest target to call mafia as town. But TT, LS are also getting some heat. Also mafia has no motive except to fake some scumhunting.

On November 29 2016 15:57 Holyflare wrote:
Too diplomatic, doesn't feel accusatory enough. Concerned with self meta, not really concerned with own reads. "Cases" someone (emperor?) but has no real conclusion or care about it. Wishy washy stance (not even a stance, just saying we need calix) on NU, basically not even a real post on NU.


I would be surprised if this is true. But I will reread having this in mind.



Checkm8 is also town.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 08:50 GMT
#439
No. I have just nothing new on you.
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November 29 2016 08:57 GMT
#442
I am fine with mahrgell. Good succession of posts (see spoiler). I don't see what hf is seeing. Main reason why I like him is because he instantly gave opinions on multiple players, and looking at his newbie game he keeps that up the entire game.

Let's see what the guy does when he comes back. Not too worried about him.

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 29 2016 10:32 mahrgell wrote:
Was trying to remember who else posted and wasn't really noticed...

emps filter is trash, even for D1 standards.
Hello here, hello there, spammy link, spammy video, apologizes for not being there before (was walking home), still not being there after his apology, except for another jokepost.
And then followed his 2 most "investigative" posts:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.


Indeed, colour me as interested in those reasons!

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.


wooo koshi going for easy bro points

When those are your best posts (and you again have no followup at all) you are probably not doing enough to help town.

On November 29 2016 10:40 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 10:35 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 29 2016 10:32 mahrgell wrote:
Was trying to remember who else posted and wasn't really noticed...

emps filter is trash, even for D1 standards.
Hello here, hello there, spammy link, spammy video, apologizes for not being there before (was walking home), still not being there after his apology, except for another jokepost.
And then followed his 2 most "investigative" posts:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.


Indeed, colour me as interested in those reasons!

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.


wooo koshi going for easy bro points

When those are your best posts (and you again have no followup at all) you are probably not doing enough to help town.

Alright. Any other thoughts you care to share?


I share as it comes to mind ^.^ But I think I covered my initial thoughts about almost everyone who posted.

Well I guess I ignored TT and LS, but neither really have enough posts to warrant any analysis.

On November 29 2016 10:42 mahrgell wrote:
Hmmm... also I would be not unhappy about feedback on the readability of my own posts...

After I quickly established myself as wot thrower in newbie mafia, this time I'm trying to keep stuff shorter, just pointing things out with less explanations... Not sure this is better though. Then again not sure who read my stuff last game :D

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 29 2016 09:01 GMT
#444
On November 29 2016 17:53 Onegu wrote:
Ok good to know, I am hard to ignore.

Thoughts on my post that you would play hard no matter how many times you roll scum in a row and people trying to give you a pass for it?

I don't mind people getting pressured. Nobody pressures me so you doing it is fine I guess. But there is no way in hell I am not confirmed town before EoD1 to everybody so posts like those are just waste of space in my head.

I am not going to read you based on posts you make on me. So as long as you fail/refuse to dive in the game and play the game you are going to be lynchable at the end of the day.
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November 29 2016 09:01 GMT
#445
On November 29 2016 17:59 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 17:57 Koshi wrote:
I am fine with mahrgell. Good succession of posts (see spoiler). I don't see what hf is seeing. Main reason why I like him is because he instantly gave opinions on multiple players, and looking at his newbie game he keeps that up the entire game.

Let's see what the guy does when he comes back. Not too worried about him.

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 29 2016 10:32 mahrgell wrote:
Was trying to remember who else posted and wasn't really noticed...

emps filter is trash, even for D1 standards.
Hello here, hello there, spammy link, spammy video, apologizes for not being there before (was walking home), still not being there after his apology, except for another jokepost.
And then followed his 2 most "investigative" posts:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.


Indeed, colour me as interested in those reasons!

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.


wooo koshi going for easy bro points

When those are your best posts (and you again have no followup at all) you are probably not doing enough to help town.

On November 29 2016 10:40 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 10:35 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 29 2016 10:32 mahrgell wrote:
Was trying to remember who else posted and wasn't really noticed...

emps filter is trash, even for D1 standards.
Hello here, hello there, spammy link, spammy video, apologizes for not being there before (was walking home), still not being there after his apology, except for another jokepost.
And then followed his 2 most "investigative" posts:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.


Indeed, colour me as interested in those reasons!

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.


wooo koshi going for easy bro points

When those are your best posts (and you again have no followup at all) you are probably not doing enough to help town.

Alright. Any other thoughts you care to share?


I share as it comes to mind ^.^ But I think I covered my initial thoughts about almost everyone who posted.

Well I guess I ignored TT and LS, but neither really have enough posts to warrant any analysis.

On November 29 2016 10:42 mahrgell wrote:
Hmmm... also I would be not unhappy about feedback on the readability of my own posts...

After I quickly established myself as wot thrower in newbie mafia, this time I'm trying to keep stuff shorter, just pointing things out with less explanations... Not sure this is better though. Then again not sure who read my stuff last game :D




The second and third best player in this game disagreeing. Very very interesting. Not sure what to make of it yet as the best player.

Would have been funnier if you didn't type the last sentence. Now it is so obvious.
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November 29 2016 09:03 GMT
#448
On November 29 2016 18:02 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 18:01 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 17:59 Onegu wrote:
On November 29 2016 17:57 Koshi wrote:
I am fine with mahrgell. Good succession of posts (see spoiler). I don't see what hf is seeing. Main reason why I like him is because he instantly gave opinions on multiple players, and looking at his newbie game he keeps that up the entire game.

Let's see what the guy does when he comes back. Not too worried about him.

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 29 2016 10:32 mahrgell wrote:
Was trying to remember who else posted and wasn't really noticed...

emps filter is trash, even for D1 standards.
Hello here, hello there, spammy link, spammy video, apologizes for not being there before (was walking home), still not being there after his apology, except for another jokepost.
And then followed his 2 most "investigative" posts:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.


Indeed, colour me as interested in those reasons!

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.


wooo koshi going for easy bro points

When those are your best posts (and you again have no followup at all) you are probably not doing enough to help town.

On November 29 2016 10:40 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 10:35 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 29 2016 10:32 mahrgell wrote:
Was trying to remember who else posted and wasn't really noticed...

emps filter is trash, even for D1 standards.
Hello here, hello there, spammy link, spammy video, apologizes for not being there before (was walking home), still not being there after his apology, except for another jokepost.
And then followed his 2 most "investigative" posts:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.


Indeed, colour me as interested in those reasons!

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.


wooo koshi going for easy bro points

When those are your best posts (and you again have no followup at all) you are probably not doing enough to help town.

Alright. Any other thoughts you care to share?


I share as it comes to mind ^.^ But I think I covered my initial thoughts about almost everyone who posted.

Well I guess I ignored TT and LS, but neither really have enough posts to warrant any analysis.

On November 29 2016 10:42 mahrgell wrote:
Hmmm... also I would be not unhappy about feedback on the readability of my own posts...

After I quickly established myself as wot thrower in newbie mafia, this time I'm trying to keep stuff shorter, just pointing things out with less explanations... Not sure this is better though. Then again not sure who read my stuff last game :D




The second and third best player in this game disagreeing. Very very interesting. Not sure what to make of it yet as the best player.

Would have been funnier if you didn't type the last sentence. Now it is so obvious.



Had to let the newbies know whats up.

I agree that it would be impossible for them to figure it out on their own.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 09:21 GMT
#456
On November 29 2016 18:20 Holyflare wrote:
Stop playing on a terrible phone? Never had a problem with gifs on an ancient phone even.

so combative.

Townies need to be nice and friendly to each other.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 09:22 GMT
#457
On November 29 2016 18:21 Holyflare wrote:
Anyway work beckons, post more concrete reads please.

And anyone going to update me on whether ows is in this game?

He isn't. Emperor is somebody completely different and has played quite an amount of games here.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 09:39 GMT
#460
I think he means that because NU is going after LS, and EC also thinks LS might be mafia, he doesn't want to go full out on NU yet and first wait out till he figures out NU vs LS.
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Koshi
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Belgium38799 Posts
November 29 2016 09:49 GMT
#462
On November 29 2016 08:58 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.


Kus he wanted to play a game and is throwing stuff around to get the game moving.

Emp is a scum lean kus he's posting stuff but just jokey conversative [spoiler]Spell check tells me thats not a word, but I dissagree[/spoiler] things.

Neither of these things mean much since the game has barely started.

Someone wake me up when interesting shit has happened.

This reasoning is a bit too weak for me.

Explanation TT gave here feels textbook mafia answer. Safe generic reads.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 09:55 GMT
#463
##Vote Ticktock

1) Posted a gif and disappeared
2) Felt the urge to come back with 2 unexplained reads in a post that didn't progress the game.
3) When pressured on those reads gave a very generic answer.

Look at that post. + Show Spoiler +
On November 29 2016 08:58 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.


Kus he wanted to play a game and is throwing stuff around to get the game moving.

Emp is a scum lean kus he's posting stuff but just jokey conversative [spoiler]Spell check tells me thats not a word, but I dissagree[/spoiler] things.

Neither of these things mean much since the game has barely started.

Someone wake me up when interesting shit has happened.


Generic reasoning to townread Onegu.

Generic reasoning to scumread Emp.

Downplaying his own reasons.

Distancing from thread


Bad stuff.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 10:02 GMT
#465
Rereading further I think NU is also mafia.
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November 29 2016 10:06 GMT
#466
Checkm8 and EC are town.
Shapelog is town.
Mahrgell is town.
LS is town.
Darthfoley is town.

List grows.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 10:14 GMT
#468
If you read these people their post; Checkm8, EC, Mahrgell you can see they are the same alignment because their posts on NeverUnlucky. Even if NU is not red.

Shape can still be mafia but his post on NU also went the right way. Just wishy washy as fuck and that is standard town!Shape. He knows whats up but couldn't nail it yet.

darthfoley just solid posting. Shouldn't be considered atm.

LS is my bro. Town posting style.


Onegu would be playing out of the box mafia. But he is out of the box tryhard mafia. But he is doing too good of a job atm. So not lynchable.
HF disappointing atm. Hopefully picks it up.



TT also mafia.
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November 29 2016 10:28 GMT
#479
sl I am happy you also joined this game D1 for the glory of town.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
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November 29 2016 11:05 GMT
#488
On November 29 2016 19:55 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 19:28 Koshi wrote:
sl I am happy you also joined this game D1 for the glory of town.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


silly koshi your not getting any more easy town reads untill you stop winning as mafia

That's ok. I don't need townreads from you to transition from winning as mafia to winning as town multiple times in a row.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 12:06 GMT
#490
On November 29 2016 21:01 Checkm8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 18:21 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 18:20 Holyflare wrote:
Stop playing on a terrible phone? Never had a problem with gifs on an ancient phone even.

so combative.

Townies need to be nice and friendly to each other.


I dunno, this is just a gut feel but this seems scummy to me. Just a gut feel tho.

My post or his post?
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 12:56 GMT
#492
On November 29 2016 21:43 Checkm8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 21:06 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 21:01 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 18:21 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 18:20 Holyflare wrote:
Stop playing on a terrible phone? Never had a problem with gifs on an ancient phone even.

so combative.

Townies need to be nice and friendly to each other.


I dunno, this is just a gut feel but this seems scummy to me. Just a gut feel tho.

My post or his post?


yours

How was his post valuable?
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 13:00 GMT
#493
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
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November 29 2016 13:52 GMT
#503
mahrgell fell down a little
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November 29 2016 13:58 GMT
#508
tis true.
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November 29 2016 14:05 GMT
#511
On November 29 2016 23:04 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 22:50 Holyflare wrote:
Can you give me a quick breakdown of which people fit into which category in that post margarine?

Just a simple:

Would like to know more:
and
People solely expanding filter with no content:

I'm very intrigued.



I may be padding my filter just so people can be like holy shit onegu has a 5+ page day 1 filter that means he is scum, so I can reinforce my you cant meta read me.

But I do think I got some content in there also. Maybe not...

Pretty sure not.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 14:07 GMT
#514
On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.


Cool quotes at first sight but it is completely different to say "hi" at the start of the game, or what I did. I can see how town!Checkm8 makes that distinction.

Do you really believe you found something scummy here?
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November 29 2016 14:08 GMT
#516
Also quoting 2 posts and not writing anything under it feels like an opportunistic as fuck mafia play.

"Please make the wrong assumption town"
"Please call me town for finding this contradiction"


Meh.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 14:14 GMT
#519
On November 29 2016 23:12 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 23:08 Koshi wrote:
Also quoting 2 posts and not writing anything under it feels like an opportunistic as fuck mafia play.

"Please make the wrong assumption town"
"Please call me town for finding this contradiction"


Meh.

Or...

"Explain this contradiction" with the infamous "zzzzzzz"

Why can't you explain it?
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 14:15 GMT
#520
Why don't you have an opinion on it?

Again. I ask you. Did you found this contradiction scummy the moment you saw it? Clearly you did, so tell us why.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 14:55 GMT
#529
It isn't useful for people to exactly understand what I am thinking.

LS is town for me till I say otherwise. Feel free to think differently.
Checkm8 is a weaker townread but I like what he said previously, so unless his activity drops and/or says dumb shit he is green.
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November 29 2016 15:26 GMT
#539
Good post NU.
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November 29 2016 15:49 GMT
#543
4. Onegu
8. Checkm8
11. sicklucker
12. Ticktock


I am left with these names.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 15:49 GMT
#545
Oh and I guess Rels. Always the same with that guy lately.
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November 29 2016 15:51 GMT
#547
On November 30 2016 00:50 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 00:49 Koshi wrote:
4. Onegu
8. Checkm8
11. sicklucker
12. Ticktock


I am left with these names.


CM8 was a townream, TT was a scumread, no? I can't follow you again. Guess I better get used it.

Yes. I was wrong on CM8.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 16:09 GMT
#551
On November 30 2016 01:03 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 00:49 Koshi wrote:
4. Onegu
8. Checkm8
11. sicklucker
12. Ticktock


I am left with these names.


What did Emp and Darth do that impressed you?

Darth initial post was good enough for now. Obviously activity needs to be kept up.
Emp we will see but I think him going after NU was ok. A lot of people said the same thing after he did and I think those are town.
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November 29 2016 16:24 GMT
#557
Excellent question. Try to explain that fully LS.
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November 29 2016 18:15 GMT
#588
I don't even know how I can be mafia.
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November 29 2016 18:46 GMT
#591
On November 30 2016 03:38 emperorchampion wrote:
@Koshi:

1. Rels
2. Holyflare
4. Onegu
8. Checkm8
11. sicklucker
12. Tictock

Maybe only 1 of sl and c8? Waiting for c8 since I have something I'm curious about.

Nha I don't think HF is mafia. But that read can flip in a second.
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November 29 2016 19:39 GMT
#600
I'll have to continue tomorrow. Too tired.
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November 29 2016 20:42 GMT
#612
I am not here but LS is obvious town lol.
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November 29 2016 21:37 GMT
#629
And why are you "amazed" from HF read ? Have you any expectation from HF ?

Where does this come from?
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 21:44 GMT
#632
Hmm. I don't think mahrgell or LS are mafia.
You can't expect superb play from anybody D1.
They are obviously trying to figure the game out.

Both are chill and play active in the thread every time they entered it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 29 2016 21:45 GMT
#633
On November 30 2016 03:38 emperorchampion wrote:
@Koshi:

1. Rels
2. Holyflare
4. Onegu
8. Checkm8
11. sicklucker
12. Tictock

Maybe only 1 of sl and c8? Waiting for c8 since I have something I'm curious about.

This is an extremely good list. Extremely good.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 21:47 GMT
#634
1. Rels
2. Holyflare
4. Onegu
8. Checkm8
11. sicklucker
12. Tictock


that guy is not mafia.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 21:52 GMT
#635
And if people wonder why I know add HF is because he peaced out and I don't like how he is trying to convince the thread that mahrgell is mafia by making a case talking to mahrgell.

Somewhat odd reasoning but I am ok with it now. I should check how he played in DotA mafia and how he played in the other game before that. But it was not like this. I killed him twice on N1 because it was obvious he was the only rational town with a full view on the game pushing the game forward each post he made.

24 into this game and I don't feel that at all.

He has 24 more hours. And I think in those 2 previous games his posting before EoD and during N1 were a lot better than the first 24 h in the game. So he has time to redeem himself.

But the pressure to perform is there.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 21:53 GMT
#637
darthfoley saddens me a bit. Oh well. Activity is good this game.
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November 29 2016 21:56 GMT
#638
On November 30 2016 06:53 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 00:04 Holyflare wrote:
Your opinion on me shouldn't be anything other than null btw. I haven't done much but you should certainly agree that your NU reads are wishy washy useless crap and it is excellent to be called out for that when you yourself didn't even "realise".

This is such a bad post.
First, his read was "minor scumlean for that, but I hope he steps up".
Second, he obviously won't think his NU read is scummy if he's town SINCE HE S TOWN.
Third, you've played enough to know that it's normal to tend to scumread people that scumread you.

I wanted to write this 10 hours ago. Really great that you said this.
I don't know why I decided against it. I didn't want to break off HF his pressure I think.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:18 GMT
#643
On November 30 2016 07:01 Rels wrote:
Koshi explain your townread on checkm8 ?

His posts more likely come from town than mafia wifoming like a madman.

I am a sucker for people that say this:
On November 29 2016 23:28 Checkm8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
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Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.



Damn, I'm horrible at this. But believe me I'm town...because I'm not chocolate nor mocha...

And the post in which he said I was mafia for being too nice. Don't know. It made sense when HF said it came more likely from town.



Like.. Maybe with darthfoley the least likely townies? But I am going to take them into D2 most likely. But it is all about keeping up activity. If the activity drops we still have a problem. But I take into account we are 24h far and that they continue doing the same.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:33 GMT
#652
On November 30 2016 07:30 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 23:04 Onegu wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:50 Holyflare wrote:
Can you give me a quick breakdown of which people fit into which category in that post margarine?

Just a simple:

Would like to know more:
and
People solely expanding filter with no content:

I'm very intrigued.



I may be padding my filter just so people can be like holy shit onegu has a 5+ page day 1 filter that means he is scum, so I can reinforce my you cant meta read me.

But I do think I got some content in there also. Maybe not...

Actually you're more tryhard as scum ?

His point is that he is now tryharding as town and breaks his meta...
It's ridiculous because he hasn't done shit.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:34 GMT
#653
I think Onegu maybe is not the lynch because he is forcing himself to be the center of attention. Great lynch if we got some mafia out of the way but not today.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:35 GMT
#655
On November 30 2016 07:33 Rels wrote:
I think SL is town

He made 1 good point. But I don't think it is enough for him to be taken off the table. Did he say anything interesting that wasn't about Shape / copclaim?
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:40 GMT
#659
On November 30 2016 07:37 Rels wrote:
TIME T1: Onegu says something
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 09:44 Onegu wrote:
Also what happend to SL he said hi to me then just bounced...

TIME T2 a few hours later: SL posts something
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 13:24 sicklucker wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:18 Tictock wrote:
Oh right, the whole Koshi vs Onegu thing.

I will prob ignore any and all of that just like Calix vs NU.


tru me too .townie

TIME T3 another few hours alter: SL reacts to what Onegu says on T1
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 17:30 sicklucker wrote:
and onegu why you getting mad for sayin hi to you. there was 2 posts in the thread not worth my time to stick around ;p

So that shows he read the game before posting at T3. So that means that (1) he read the whole thread but didn't tryhard to gain townieness from it and (2) posted randomly in the thread wihtout following it at all at T2, which you tend to not do as scum.
I guess ? It sounded better in my head.

I can see what you want to say. I as mafia was always very aware of that indeed.
But it is not good enough atm for sl.

Do you like NU?
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:43 GMT
#663
On November 30 2016 07:38 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 07:35 Koshi wrote:
On November 30 2016 07:33 Rels wrote:
I think SL is town

He made 1 good point. But I don't think it is enough for him to be taken off the table. Did he say anything interesting that wasn't about Shape / copclaim?

What's the 1 good point he made ?

That shape was not mafia for how he claimed cop.
I liked how sl brought that to the thread. It had impact. It was new. And it removed all my doubt on Shape.


Also not enough to townread him. But it's ok for now. sl is being absolute shit till he starts actual playing last games. It's great for mafia teams. Not so for townies as he stays a ?. Rarely gets close to lynched though.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:44 GMT
#664
On November 30 2016 07:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 07:40 Koshi wrote:
On November 30 2016 07:37 Rels wrote:
TIME T1: Onegu says something
On November 29 2016 09:44 Onegu wrote:
Also what happend to SL he said hi to me then just bounced...

TIME T2 a few hours later: SL posts something
On November 29 2016 13:24 sicklucker wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:18 Tictock wrote:
Oh right, the whole Koshi vs Onegu thing.

I will prob ignore any and all of that just like Calix vs NU.


tru me too .townie

TIME T3 another few hours alter: SL reacts to what Onegu says on T1
On November 29 2016 17:30 sicklucker wrote:
and onegu why you getting mad for sayin hi to you. there was 2 posts in the thread not worth my time to stick around ;p

So that shows he read the game before posting at T3. So that means that (1) he read the whole thread but didn't tryhard to gain townieness from it and (2) posted randomly in the thread wihtout following it at all at T2, which you tend to not do as scum.
I guess ? It sounded better in my head.

I can see what you want to say. I as mafia was always very aware of that indeed.
But it is not good enough atm for sl.

Do you like NU?

No apart from his big post which was townie.

Exactly. That removed him from my scumlist.
But his play is really not up to date. Also. Dat filter. He feels restricted in his posting.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:45 GMT
#665
On November 30 2016 07:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 07:18 Koshi wrote:
On November 30 2016 07:01 Rels wrote:
Koshi explain your townread on checkm8 ?

His posts more likely come from town than mafia wifoming like a madman.

I am a sucker for people that say this:
On November 29 2016 23:28 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.



Damn, I'm horrible at this. But believe me I'm town...because I'm not chocolate nor mocha...

And the post in which he said I was mafia for being too nice. Don't know. It made sense when HF said it came more likely from town.
[...]

Yeah, I found that last post to be townie as well.

Why is LS obvious town to you?

Pure meta and feels. I have played with him before.
And he even had some good scumhunting somewhere. Well. At least interesting pressure. I completely forgot what it was but it was good.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:48 GMT
#670
On November 30 2016 07:45 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 07:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 30 2016 07:18 Koshi wrote:
On November 30 2016 07:01 Rels wrote:
Koshi explain your townread on checkm8 ?

His posts more likely come from town than mafia wifoming like a madman.

I am a sucker for people that say this:
On November 29 2016 23:28 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.



Damn, I'm horrible at this. But believe me I'm town...because I'm not chocolate nor mocha...

And the post in which he said I was mafia for being too nice. Don't know. It made sense when HF said it came more likely from town.
[...]

Yeah, I found that last post to be townie as well.

Why is LS obvious town to you?

Pure meta and feels. I have played with him before.
And he even had some good scumhunting somewhere. Well. At least interesting pressure. I completely forgot what it was but it was good.

No I am being incorrect. His play is just good. The meta is only a part. The feels are just townfeels I would have with everybody that plays like he does.

Saying there is mafia between 2 people because it feels like there is, is bold and can come from a townie. Yes, it could be mafia trying to force town to pick a mafia between the 2 or so but that is not how I read that.

It's all good. He is not mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:50 GMT
#671
On November 30 2016 07:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 07:43 Koshi wrote:
On November 30 2016 07:38 Rels wrote:
On November 30 2016 07:35 Koshi wrote:
On November 30 2016 07:33 Rels wrote:
I think SL is town

He made 1 good point. But I don't think it is enough for him to be taken off the table. Did he say anything interesting that wasn't about Shape / copclaim?

What's the 1 good point he made ?

That shape was not mafia for how he claimed cop.
I liked how sl brought that to the thread. It had impact. It was new. And it removed all my doubt on Shape.


Also not enough to townread him. But it's ok for now. sl is being absolute shit till he starts actual playing last games. It's great for mafia teams. Not so for townies as he stays a ?. Rarely gets close to lynched though.

This was a super shit point and Shape absolutely can fakeclaim cop as any alignment.

Everybody can do anything.
But I don't know. Doesn't feel like scum would do it there for shit and giggles.


anyway, at that time, after he made that comment, I thought sl came out to play.

He didn't.

bad sl.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:52 GMT
#673
2. Holyflare
4. Onegu
11. sicklucker
12. Tictock
13. NeverUnlucky

I think I am here atm. Finding the right one is going to be a pain in the ass.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:52 GMT
#675
On November 30 2016 07:51 Rels wrote:
Let's kill HF.
##Vote Holyflare

I am not against that.
##unvote
##Vote Holyflare
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:54 GMT
#676
Like the post he made about the spoilered gifs. Unnecessary frustration towards mahrgell.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:56 GMT
#677
I think I am probably wrong on TT btw and he is just being super unimpressive.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:57 GMT
#679
There is like no attempt to look good in any of his posts. Mafia wouldn't do that.
And I liked maybe some of his posts now that I reread them. I can see a townie asking those questions.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:57 GMT
#680
This NU guy is so disconnected from the thread. Quite hilarious.
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Koshi
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November 29 2016 22:58 GMT
#682
Pretty sure he is always the lynch today.
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November 29 2016 23:03 GMT
#686
On November 30 2016 07:58 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 07:57 Koshi wrote:
There is like no attempt to look good in any of his posts. Mafia wouldn't do that.
And I liked maybe some of his posts now that I reread them. I can see a townie asking those questions.

Disagree. His "My early game is town I dare you to meta me" is exactly that.

I guess.. but my point is that is almost too easy to scumread him. And that he doesn't seem to create a scenario where he can wiggle out of some votes.

Like the "case" I made about his generic reads and distancing... That was pretty bad if you reread a bit as mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 29 2016 23:06 GMT
#690
I really need to sleep Mr. Sicklucker. Will you have interesting things to say to me or can I open the thread tomorrow at work and wake my brain while reading your posts?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 30 2016 08:26 GMT
#761
On November 30 2016 08:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 07:57 Koshi wrote:
This NU guy is so disconnected from the thread. Quite hilarious.

Disconnected from the thread, no. Disconnected from your 1 on 1 with Rels, yes. There is no comment I can make or think of making in relation to your conversation and would much rather dive filters and understand others.

Isn't the first time bro. At the start of the game as well.
Town!NU would just post more (funny) shizzle and put himself in the conversations way more. Town!NU would dominate the conversation because he talks what comes to him and then others join in with him.

Now you are always outside the conversations for some reason.



If somebody can pinpoint me to a game in which you play like this, show me, otherwise this is a clear different meta than I am used to from you.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 08:29 GMT
#763
On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:
On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs).


I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around?

He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally.

second person who says this but I am pretty sure it is only Rels and I who voted him. And I pasted my voted after Rels to just give the wagon some more prominence.

It's all good.


HF is maybe not mafia but it is not because the wagon formed on him too quickly. Please disregard that idea.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 08:33 GMT
#764
On November 30 2016 12:52 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.



This post is not natural to me.
1) No mention of c8 when he actually makes quoted post (2). After quoted post (1) comes out, NU goes to reference it.
2) Makes me think NU was filtering c8 looking for something that looks bad to push him on it.

Thoughts?

I agree. It is another disconnect play by NU.

So it is true that NU was in the thread while the quotes happened and only a lot later NU mentions them together? Because I didn't check that.

I also didn't like how he presented the quotes. I said something about that already.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 08:44 GMT
#766
On November 30 2016 16:08 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 16:02 sicklucker wrote:
pretty sure I cant be scum since everyone whos likely scum thinks im scum.

Darthfoley
mahgr
never
maybe emp


I'm not maf, you're probably not either.

Not understanding the high green reads on darth atm, so we agree on that.

I can understand them. But NU and Rels both place him too high. It's ok atm still. Doesn't matter. He isn't the d1 lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 30 2016 08:46 GMT
#767
On November 30 2016 17:28 mahrgell wrote:
Okay, I'm back! Just skimmed over everything. Anyone has something he wants to point me at? Otherwise I will probably go with another list post and chiming in my opinion on the current cases.

Don't do a listpost again. Just try to find something interesting. Or talk about something that you think is possible and new information.

Maybe a post that comes more likely from town than mafia? Or the other way around even!
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 09:16 GMT
#776
Ok so before I reread anything and just woke up.

Mafia to town

13. NeverUnlucky
2. Holyflare
4. Onegu
12. Tictock
11. sicklucker
3. Shapelog
6. darthfoley
8. Checkm8
9. mahrgell
10. emperorchampion
1. Rels
5. LightningStrike


This list is created knowing that I really think NU is off his game. I know out of experience how hard it is to play mafia when you have a super conversational, super "post-literally-everything-what-pops-in-your-brain" type of town playstyle.

A few things that pop out on NU:
1) Early game, the first pages, he was here but wasn't posting every other post, which already was odd to me.
2) Early game, a bit later, I made a comment I was sure he would be able to instant reply to if he was carefree town. But he didn't at all. Weird. (The same thing happened many times already, sometimes delayed though, if you poke a bear, the bear answers instantly, not after 50 minutes.) (I think he is mafia and knows he can't play making a post every other second so he tries to post every 10-30 minutes instead.)
3) Very small content (1-2 lines max) posts on LS, EC and TT early game. But with a very empty feeling. Only enforces the idea that he is watching the thread, but then only posts every 10-20 minutes just because he is mafia, and it isn't doing him favors.
4) He has an incredible hard time absorbing information. I can tell him a million times LS is not mafia, but he can't absorb it, and he also refuses to discuss it. Instead he comes with another story of "LS play is weirdish here"
5) Have you seen 4-5 quick posts back and forth from him with anybody? I have seen him do 40-50 with Calix before.
6) Disconnected with the thread. I already explained this. town!NU talks in the thread and people join him and his topic for conversation. In this game NU has issues joining conversations. Reason is most likely that he can't play "post-literally-everything-what-pops-in-your-brain" as mafia.


Hmm. Yeah that will do for now. There is more ofc. Like the quotes he posted without information. It really felt like he didn't know what to do with it and was posting them so somebody else would reply and then he would reply reactively and maybe create something that looks like being involved. I just expect town!NU to have an idea in his head why these 2 quotes are not cool. Why they make somebody mafia. And entire theory in his head from looking at those 2 quotes for 1 second. Instead he has nothing. And when I challenge these quotes and say they are not a real contradiction and they can come from a town in a different situation. HE DOES NOT REPLY TO THAT. Instead he replies to another question I asked him in another post. The easier answer.


oh well. I can keep going about this guy.
##unvote
##vote NU




If NU is not mafia. He flips green. I think my list looks like this atm:
2. Holyflare
3. Shapelog
11. sicklucker
4. Onegu
12. Tictock
10. emperorchampion

Nothing much changes but I have to admit I have a lot riding on the fact 3-4 people (Shape, EC, mahrgell and maybe ch8) somewhere after 10 hours in the thread all said the same thing about NU without it really being connected to each other. It felt like it were all townies seeing the same thing but not being to really nail it, also not bussing or trying to discredit a townie as mafia. But if NU is town, maybe I need to revisit it anyway. Shape falling off is very meh, that guy posts carefree as mafia or town, doesn't matter, but I feel as town he can has eventually a ton of really townie moments, while as mafia he just has a few townie moments.




Rereading now after doing some work.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 30 2016 09:27 GMT
#777
On November 30 2016 13:11 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 13:04 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 30 2016 13:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 30 2016 13:01 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 30 2016 12:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 30 2016 12:52 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


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Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.



This post is not natural to me.
1) No mention of c8 when he actually makes quoted post (2). After quoted post (1) comes out, NU goes to reference it.
2) Makes me think NU was filtering c8 looking for something that looks bad to push him on it.

Thoughts?

I don't quite understand 1) :3 But I did not filter checkm8 when I did that post. The first quote was directly directed to me, so it was fresh in my mind, and the second one was made while I was online, so I made the connection.

On November 30 2016 12:53 emperorchampion wrote:
@NU, to answer a previous question: started thinking you were looking pretty bad, went to thinking you were OK and should maybe be left alone, now back to looking pretty bad.

Yeh, I figured that, I was asking why that is.


Well at the moment I don't really understand where in the game you're at.

So where are you at?

I'm up to date, I was thinking of filtering SL before heading to bed (in 15-20 minutes).


Who is town for you, and who is mafia for you?


Town: Koshi, DF
CM8, Rels, mahr, Onegu***

Mafia: SL

tbh you asking me this makes me doubt that you are a mafia. You seem to want to try to understand me.

good back and forth with EC.

But as you can see. EC is the aggressor. NU is the defender.

EC is town bois. NU is mafia!Koshi not having a good time.
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November 30 2016 09:28 GMT
#778
I like TT his listpost, but I dislike the EC/NU is mafia on mafia thing. That completely breaks it.
And then he votes EC over NU.

Completely wrong.


That is why he is on spot 4 in the list.
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November 30 2016 09:34 GMT
#779
I also don't understand what happened with HF.

Somewhere he makes a post which says "I am going to let Koshi control this thread and let his scumreads attack me for not doing a lot."

Which is a VERY STRONG VOTE of confidence, because it means he agrees with my townreads and mafia reads. But since then he has been undermining me with little dumb posts while I just keep going strong and my mafia reads are still being underwhelming / plain mafia.

Very odd this is.

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November 30 2016 09:41 GMT
#783
Nobody establishes a new meta like this. You say you will/want to do it, but you never do it.

I will put a lot of effort in soon to read EC again and again. But atm I can't see him be mafia. I even think he plays quite good as town atm. Changing your opinion on your main scumread on a whim back and forth, questioning your scumread are both top town qualities.


It is when you change your opinion on somebody you don't talk about, to fit some agenda, that it is more likely mafia. But in the open on your top scumread? Nha. That is not mafia.
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November 30 2016 09:43 GMT
#785
On November 30 2016 18:41 Holyflare wrote:
It's not really odd. You didn't push me for pushing Margaret which I thought was very weird. You completely ditched your tt vote based on nothing when he plays the same way he's playing now (afk) as both alignments. You were posting about afking a lot and returning to not really post any follow up to anything. Like Margaret said, jabbing from the sidelines.

Vote on me is whatever but it's incongruous with what you've been saying about me, "there's a reason hf might be town but it's not the speed of votes," "hf's posts sheeping me were cool and showed confidence in a read," "Margaret fell down a bit, maybe hf was right," and then you followed rels for some bull shit reason of "i didn't like that post." which is bs because like margarine is saying above in his new list "hf pushed me for correct things" so you and rels, your reasons for disliking me based on one post is bull shit when the person AGREES with what I've been saying about them. You post si much about how i could be town but then I'm second and even first in your list of mafia. It's crap.

I don't hate your nu post now. But he did play this way as town in a recent game but that was d3 onwards so I'm hesitant to just follow it.

Sl not pushing me and instead sheeping me is fucking weird when I'm pushing a new player.

Being super fluent in the thread is a 100% town thread of mine Mr. Holyflare. You know how I play mafia after playing the last 3 games together. This is really really really not it.

Not even close.

So yeah, you stay on spot 2 or 3.
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November 30 2016 09:45 GMT
#786
I don't even care how you people summarize my play.

This is how I play town.

I constantly change it up, I constantly push the thread forward and look to solve the game as fast as I can for my pleasure only.



This is what I am doing.


This is not what I ever did as mafia.


So please.

gtfo

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#787
fuck my life

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November 30 2016 09:49 GMT
#790
On November 30 2016 18:47 mahrgell wrote:
At least one thing connects HF and Koshi:
Both have this unpleasant kind of "I clearly can't be scum, and this is proven" posts.
Has this ever worked? Well... looking at Koshis recent scum wins (and late survival in D2), I guess it did.

Well. Everybody makes posts that they can't be scum. Basically the point of the game.
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November 30 2016 09:51 GMT
#793
I don't even know where I said that you could be town to ls.
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November 30 2016 09:51 GMT
#794
On November 30 2016 18:50 mahrgell wrote:
Anyway, to get back on track, let me repeat my theoretical question:

If you have 2 players, both highly suspicious, but certainly not both can be scum at the same time. Lynch one or not? As I said, in IRL mafia with 3 scum alive, I wouldn't lynch either but wait and see. How about online with the more town favored numbers?

Always lynch in them. Always.
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November 30 2016 10:01 GMT
#802
On November 30 2016 18:52 Holyflare wrote:
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On November 30 2016 17:29 Koshi wrote:
On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:
On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote:
Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs).


I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around?

He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally.

second person who says this but I am pretty sure it is only Rels and I who voted him. And I pasted my voted after Rels to just give the wagon some more prominence.

It's all good.


HF is maybe not mafia but it is not because the wagon formed on him too quickly. Please disregard that idea.


ahh. Ok. Yes. ofc I am not sure.
Still you are on spot 2 to get lynched.
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November 30 2016 10:03 GMT
#803
On November 30 2016 18:58 Onegu wrote:
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On November 30 2016 01:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 30 2016 01:21 mahrgell wrote:
Btw, NU, what made you lean-T on Onegu?

I recognize myself in him, and he's funny. I also think that his "Where is everyone?" and "SL was here then left..." posts were town. However, I don't think he's the most town itt anymore because he has yet to make a serious post which worries me. I can see where Koshi is coming from with the Dandel comparison.

Off for a while



The problem is Koshi knows you cant meta read me or compare me to any other players. I try to change my meta on purpose every few games because I enjoy rolling scum more and when I roll scum I want to last longer so I can play it more. Koshi actually trying to make me look bad is very concerning to me.

You look bad on your own. I don't have to try. I am just pointing it out.
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November 30 2016 10:45 GMT
#808
HF do you think Rels is possible mafia?
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November 30 2016 11:06 GMT
#812
On November 30 2016 19:53 Holyflare wrote:
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On November 30 2016 19:45 Koshi wrote:
HF do you think Rels is possible mafia?


All I know about rels is that he posted about Marcel and said that he/she was completely different to last game, complained about margarine's approach to the game being wildly different and bad and then voted me for pressuring his read.

Margaret doesn't even appear in his scum list at the end of it.

I think his read through was bad and achieved nothing, said nothing of note and then he left. He could very well be mafia.

Ok. I need to reread but yes, I had a bad feeling based on nothing concrete yet.
Going to see what he really talks about.
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November 30 2016 11:08 GMT
#813
With better grammar

Ok. I need to reread but yes, I have a bad feeling based on nothing concrete yet.
Going to see what he really talked about yesterday with me.
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November 30 2016 11:11 GMT
#814
After not reading Rels his filter which is the next thing I will do. But during workhours and not my pause ^.^

Mafia to town:

13. NeverUnlucky
12. Tictock
11. sicklucker
1. Rels
4. Onegu
2. Holyflare
3. Shapelog
6. darthfoley
8. Checkm8
9. mahrgell
10. emperorchampion
5. LightningStrike
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November 30 2016 11:25 GMT
#815
Yes. It really depends on how Rels continues. If he stays this inactive he is mafia. I already got completely outplayed by scum!Rels once and I know this is well within his range. Town!Rels will shine through over time. Far from there yet.
My mistake.

With Onegu vouching this hard on HF, and sicklucker basically doing the same I have to put HF quite low on the lynchlist. It's not that his posts are so incredibly bad. Rels, df and I put pressure in him. 2 people defended him hard, he said things, it's good enough for now.



Progression is being made.
13. NeverUnlucky
12. Tictock
4. Onegu
11. sicklucker
1. Rels
3. Shapelog
2. Holyflare
6. darthfoley
10. emperorchampion
8. Checkm8
9. mahrgell
5. LightningStrike


Sicklucker, Rels are both high because I expect things from them. Put EC a bit higher out of respect of other people their reads. But if TT/NU are mafia he is kinda confirmed town and I am living in that world.
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November 30 2016 11:26 GMT
#816
I am extremely happy with that list.
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November 30 2016 12:35 GMT
#821
On November 30 2016 20:49 sicklucker wrote:
Its also pretty annoying when I call 3 people mafia and everyone ignores that and says "im not doing anything". Its really hard to find 3 mafia on day 1 you know

Well... I think mahrgell is town. darth same.
Care to convince me otherwise?


Onegu/TT
Do you have any reason to believe these 2 are town?
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November 30 2016 12:37 GMT
#822
Hmm. I am willing to trade TT for either mahrgell or darth.
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November 30 2016 13:06 GMT
#824
Why am I mafia?
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November 30 2016 13:07 GMT
#825
If you keep repeating that you need to make that big post.

##unvote
##vote mahrgell


I still will lynch NU most likely. But this guy. LoL.
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November 30 2016 13:08 GMT
#826
On November 30 2016 22:01 mahrgell wrote:
Onegu: -->Koshi: I actually liked your last post, and as mentioned I have serious doubts about Koshi at this point. But I don't think he is a realistic D1 target so I would love to discuss him at night. If nobody joins your Koshi lead, will you come back to voting for "lesser evils" (or lesser goods, if we talk scumwise) or will you stay principled on Koshi, effectively abstaining from the vote?

CM8: -->none: Can you stop playing clueless noob? Like I don't care if you are clueless or not. But you must have an opinion. Your strongest wording so far was some mistrust on NU (why? because others made good arguments on him?) and some weak stuff on Onegu. We are lynching someone soon. Can you become more concrete and post with a bit more confidence? If you were a dayvig, who would you shoot now?

Why such difference in language?
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November 30 2016 13:15 GMT
#831
On November 30 2016 22:12 mahrgell wrote:
Hi, finally I have a vote! Was already feeling lonely.
Cool. I already mentioned, that I see no point in filling the thread during the last half of the day with this discussion. Also I have you on Null, not on scum.
I don't think a lynch on you is gonna happen, and I'm not sure I would even want that, and I'm pretty sure you know about the first part too. So cluttering the thread with it now is certainly not leading in a direction that is helping town. Which makes your interest in it only reinforcing my doubts.

And honestly... I don't see any point in disucssing it with you anyway. So far all your answers have been "IM LOCK TOWN; YOU RETARD" and you obviously think this is how the convo is supposed to go. Nothing to argue then. I prefer to talk to others in this case.

Skyrocketing up my scumlist. I am null? I have the most content of all.

Please. Explain. Why. I. Am. Scum. Or. Null.
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November 30 2016 13:18 GMT
#835
On November 30 2016 22:16 mahrgell wrote:
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On November 30 2016 22:15 Koshi wrote:
On November 30 2016 22:12 mahrgell wrote:
Hi, finally I have a vote! Was already feeling lonely.
Cool. I already mentioned, that I see no point in filling the thread during the last half of the day with this discussion. Also I have you on Null, not on scum.
I don't think a lynch on you is gonna happen, and I'm not sure I would even want that, and I'm pretty sure you know about the first part too. So cluttering the thread with it now is certainly not leading in a direction that is helping town. Which makes your interest in it only reinforcing my doubts.

And honestly... I don't see any point in disucssing it with you anyway. So far all your answers have been "IM LOCK TOWN; YOU RETARD" and you obviously think this is how the convo is supposed to go. Nothing to argue then. I prefer to talk to others in this case.

Skyrocketing up my scumlist. I am null? I have the most content of all.

Please. Explain. Why. I. Am. Scum. Or. Null.

No. And explained my reasons enough, Learn to fucking read. Throw your vote at me, call me topscum, blegh. I really dont give a shit.

lolololol. the guy that is completely oblivious to why people are sharper when called mafia is now being a massive crybaby after 1 vote and somebody asking him to explain his read.

Ok.


So you call me mafia by proxy and refuse to explain your read at all.
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November 30 2016 13:22 GMT
#838
On November 30 2016 00:08 mahrgell wrote:
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On November 29 2016 23:58 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like you just made a wall of text on every player in the game for no real reason and the majority of your scum leans are simply the unproductive ones. It just seems so out of place. Why the need for the summary?


Yes, my scum leans are the unproductive ones. Should I mark it again for you? Day1 I search for those who don't play for town.
I'm not as brilliant as you to instantly have a lockscum read on my first post.

And why I made it? Simply because I dived all filters, was frustrated about the lack of anything. Would have loved something more concrete. But this game is quite asleep. Besides Koshi I don't see any initiative at all. Everyone else is at best dropping one liners commenting about their feelings. And this is honestly quite frustrating. So if this wot triggers some activity... Hey, I'm totally happy.

Seems like townread?


On November 30 2016 18:42 mahrgell wrote:
On Koshi:
Uhm, originally I wanted to post a large post on how Koshi dropped from my town reads and why at this point im back at completely neut on him. But I think this does not really concern the day, so maybe we should focus on the lynches for the remaining hours. I would still like to discuss this during the night though...

from town to mafia to neutral without a single reason.

On November 30 2016 18:47 mahrgell wrote:
At least one thing connects HF and Koshi:
Both have this unpleasant kind of "I clearly can't be scum, and this is proven" posts.
Has this ever worked? Well... looking at Koshis recent scum wins (and late survival in D2), I guess it did.

What is this?






WHERE DID I NOT READ THE MULTIPLE TIMES YOU EXPLAINED YOUR CHANGE ON MY ALLIGNMENT?

Where are these posts?
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November 30 2016 13:23 GMT
#839
On November 30 2016 22:16 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 22:15 Koshi wrote:
On November 30 2016 22:12 mahrgell wrote:
Hi, finally I have a vote! Was already feeling lonely.
Cool. I already mentioned, that I see no point in filling the thread during the last half of the day with this discussion. Also I have you on Null, not on scum.
I don't think a lynch on you is gonna happen, and I'm not sure I would even want that, and I'm pretty sure you know about the first part too. So cluttering the thread with it now is certainly not leading in a direction that is helping town. Which makes your interest in it only reinforcing my doubts.

And honestly... I don't see any point in disucssing it with you anyway. So far all your answers have been "IM LOCK TOWN; YOU RETARD" and you obviously think this is how the convo is supposed to go. Nothing to argue then. I prefer to talk to others in this case.

Skyrocketing up my scumlist. I am null? I have the most content of all.

Please. Explain. Why. I. Am. Scum. Or. Null.

No. And explained my reasons enough, Learn to fucking read. Throw your vote at me, call me topscum, blegh. I really dont give a shit.


EXPLAIN
EXPLAIN
EXPLAIN
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November 30 2016 13:26 GMT
#840
http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/mafia/515094-a-mini-with-funny-gifs?user=Koshi

7 pages of filter. Go explain why I am mafia.
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November 30 2016 13:26 GMT
#841
You literally have nothing else to do today except that.
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November 30 2016 13:35 GMT
#848
On November 30 2016 22:31 mahrgell wrote:
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On November 30 2016 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
I would like to hear koshi reasons. I made a big wall on koshi so how is it not relevant if you think he's null? Leave no stone unturned.


Meh... okay... gimme an hour.

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November 30 2016 13:36 GMT
#849
On November 30 2016 22:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note: NU wagon formed even faster than what I thought it giving me a pause. If he's scum then scum just giving him their teammate via bussing for credit. If he's town then potentally two wagons on towns? At the same time I do think we should NU. Getting mixed feelings on this.

Let's build a real slow wagon on Mahrgell. Join me!
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November 30 2016 14:11 GMT
#857
On November 30 2016 23:04 sicklucker wrote:
Like I have played against onegu mafia twice. and both times it was insanely obvious to me so much that i was doing assassination reads before he even flipped based on him being mafia and was right. dont see it here so far. Theres like context and acual thought and shit

Is this true? You checked? Read filter?
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November 30 2016 14:19 GMT
#859
True. I did change my read on Rels a bit after reading that Onegu post. Or at least it sparked my interest in Rels.

Ok top 4 atm
NU
Mahrgell
Rels
TT
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November 30 2016 14:20 GMT
#860
But Onegu is leaning extremely extremely close to that.
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November 30 2016 14:35 GMT
#864
Ok cool. You might be town. It's not the worst post but it never shows where I am mafia. Just annoying to deal with. Which is not the same thing.
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November 30 2016 14:40 GMT
#871
13. NeverUnlucky
1. Rels
12. Tictock
4. Onegu
3. Shapelog
8. Checkm8
11. sicklucker
6. darthfoley
9. mahrgell
2. Holyflare
10. emperorchampion
5. LightningStrike

It is somewhat annoying that the list shuffles so much but that's life.
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November 30 2016 14:47 GMT
#877
Well. The good news is if NU flips mafia this game is so different it isn't even funny.

##Unvote
##vote NU
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November 30 2016 14:48 GMT
#879
@ LS

Why did you say the wagon on UN formed quickly? It went slow as fuck. Each hours 1 vote and there are 4 votes now.
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November 30 2016 14:49 GMT
#880
On November 30 2016 23:48 Onegu wrote:
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On November 30 2016 23:44 mahrgell wrote:
@Onegu: lemme repeat from earlier

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Onegu: -->Koshi: I actually liked your last post, and as mentioned I have serious doubts about Koshi at this point. But I don't think he is a realistic D1 target so I would love to discuss him at night. If nobody joins your Koshi lead, will you come back to voting for "lesser evils" (or lesser goods, if we talk scumwise) or will you stay principled on Koshi, effectively abstaining from the vote?



I will consolidate if I cant get a Koshi lynch, but I will need to look into who I would want to lynch if I cant get koshi.

Tell the doctors to give you less hallucination drugs.
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November 30 2016 15:32 GMT
#884
I have a larger posts that touches points beyond your mood.
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November 30 2016 17:19 GMT
#900
On December 01 2016 00:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Koshi's case on me is great, but I'm town :/

Not sure it is possible you think that as town.
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November 30 2016 17:50 GMT
#905
lol if NU flips mafia town has it in the bag.
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November 30 2016 18:24 GMT
#918
On December 01 2016 03:18 emperorchampion wrote:
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On December 01 2016 03:12 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Though I don't get how he can dedicate such thorough analysis on TT his scum-read and vote me because my actions make him feel uneasy.


Think of it like activation energy at the moment. I'm possibly willing to move to TT, but I need a little push to get me out of my current state.

Hmm. Rels is next in line I think.
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November 30 2016 18:28 GMT
#921
On November 30 2016 23:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I will be gone for a couple hours.

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November 30 2016 18:30 GMT
#922
Nha if we don't lynch NU we lynch Onegu. There is no reason to keep him alive to eventually lynch him D4 or something.
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November 30 2016 18:47 GMT
#932
On December 01 2016 03:35 Onegu wrote:
Your progression on me is so weird. You keep saying I am fine, but then compare me to players like DI playing scum when you know I dont play like anyone else. You are putting things on me that are just not true.

I am not saying you are fine. I do not know what you are.

This is my problem with you:
There is no way your goal this game is to be a player inside the towncircle. Instead you put yourself somewhere outside there, marginalizing yourself with reads so farfetched nobody will ever take them seriously, and you will survive, solely because nobody understands wtf you are doing and why you are doing it.


And that scares me.


And you started with this unbelievable shitty trolly w.e the fuck scumread on me from second 1 in this game. And for some magical reason it sticks. Even though so much happens. Nha.
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November 30 2016 18:49 GMT
#935
On November 29 2016 08:45 Koshi wrote:
town? Really?

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On November 29 2016 08:46 Onegu wrote:
Dont believe you you rolled scum again Koshi.


On November 29 2016 09:14 Onegu wrote:
Dont listen to Koshi I know he just wants me out of the game. Because he now knows I will tunnel him into oblivion. Damn scummer.

##Unvote

##Vote: Koshi



This is how it started. And it just sticks. Forever.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 18:52 GMT
#937
See also how you already state for some reason you will tunnel me into oblivion since minute 1.
Why?
Based on what?
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 18:56 GMT
#940
On December 01 2016 03:53 Onegu wrote:
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On December 01 2016 03:52 Koshi wrote:
See also how you already state for some reason you will tunnel me into oblivion since minute 1.
Why?
Based on what?



It was a joke at first. I always start trolly. Then you didnt give me a actual reason to town read you.

Where in the game did you scumread me? Explain that.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 18:58 GMT
#941
Read Onegu his filter and look where he starts really suspecting me.
It's nowhere.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 19:00 GMT
#944
So you parked your vote 30ish hours on me and there you somehow found out I was mafia? And for what exactly?
"I am trying to win?"
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 19:01 GMT
#945
Or is it HF is town and scum!Koshi is lynching him? Is that it?
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 19:01 GMT
#946
Association read. Pretty neat.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 19:04 GMT
#948
Well you will lose vs EC everyday. But fine. You can get lynched.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 19:05 GMT
#951
On December 01 2016 04:04 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On December 01 2016 04:01 Koshi wrote:
Or is it HF is town and scum!Koshi is lynching him? Is that it?

What???

That's not what he said at all.

That's literally what is standing in that post. Scum!Koshi told in scum QT that HF is lazy and that they should try to lynch HF.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 19:08 GMT
#953
On December 01 2016 04:04 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On December 01 2016 04:04 Koshi wrote:
Well you will lose vs EC everyday. But fine. You can get lynched.

I am 100% town.

I don't care about stupid statements like that.

EC is obvious town. You knew it when you talked to him.
You are forgetting it now because he is probably the easiest target that isn't mafia with you.

His list is brilliant.
I agree with everything he said.
He has made a ton of posts that are more likely to come from town than mafia.
And he did great analysis of posts + situations.
And when he talks to you he always keeps an open mind but clearly tries to figure you out more.


And when you talk to him you are defensive as fuck. But when he is not around you backstab him.



If you are right and he is mafia and you are town. You got so outplayed you should be ashamed and full of respect.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 19:12 GMT
#960
Onegu his entire scumread on me is based on the fact I pushed HF. Which was fine as fuck.

My problem is less with how fast and more to do with who started it. Koshi in scum QT HF is being lazy day 1 lets get him lynched so we dont have to waste a bullet on him. Then people see koshi and start doing that. I really feel koshi is scum here again.


This is so wrong. So wrong. A strong scum player wants a strong town player out of the game. And if one of the biggest things I can point toward koshi is he has some large brass balls and would want to go after HF. You thinking it is town to do so is much less. People dont want to lynch the better players day 1 as town. I want HF in this game if he is a question mark and I think he is town not a question mark. Because I know if he is town he will catch scum 100%. Koshi pushing a HF lynch is much more a scum tell than a town tell.


While I like to remove ? players and pressure them, Onegu scumreads me for that. It says: "Koshi should not attack strong ? players, but he did, so he is mafia"
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 19:14 GMT
#963
The only other person except NU I am willing to vote for is Onegu.

I am not interested in anything else D1.
I will lurk the thread, you can ask me questions, I am not doing shit anymore actively though.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 19:15 GMT
#966
On December 01 2016 04:09 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On December 01 2016 04:04 Koshi wrote:
Well you will lose vs EC everyday. But fine. You can get lynched.

Also, you didn't even have time to read my post and the points i made against EC. Don't fucking talk to me if you're not going to read what I post. It also shows that you are not willing to reevaluate your read on me nor ec.

I had the time and I read every single word. stfu.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 19:18 GMT
#970
On December 01 2016 04:16 darthfoley wrote:
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On December 01 2016 04:14 Koshi wrote:
The only other person except NU I am willing to vote for is Onegu.

I am not interested in anything else D1.
I will lurk the thread, you can ask me questions, I am not doing shit anymore actively though.


Can you explain why TT is out of your equation if you think emperors posts on him were really good and you've been scum reading him forever??

TT/Rels/Shapelog I want to keep longer in the game atm.

TT is the worst out of the 3 but I also feels he gets a lot of flak and almost nobody defends him even a little bit. I can see him be town. He made a couple townie insinuations and also his early game can come from town.

If you really want a towncase I can make it. But atm I do not want to lynch him.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 19:20 GMT
#973
TT is also a player that gets misslynched a shitton D1. This does not make him any more town this game, but it is something to keep in mind. It's not that it is impossible for him to look scummy as fuck and still be town.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 19:23 GMT
#974
On December 01 2016 04:20 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On December 01 2016 04:08 Koshi wrote:
On December 01 2016 04:04 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On December 01 2016 04:04 Koshi wrote:
Well you will lose vs EC everyday. But fine. You can get lynched.

I am 100% town.

I don't care about stupid statements like that.

EC is obvious town. You knew it when you talked to him.
You are forgetting it now because he is probably the easiest target that isn't mafia with you.

His list is brilliant.
I agree with everything he said.
He has made a ton of posts that are more likely to come from town than mafia.
And he did great analysis of posts + situations.
And when he talks to you he always keeps an open mind but clearly tries to figure you out more.


And when you talk to him you are defensive as fuck. But when he is not around you backstab him.



If you are right and he is mafia and you are town. You got so outplayed you should be ashamed and full of respect.

His list IS YOUR LIST. His stances are easy everywhere, just read my post, it shows him scum-reading all the inactive and trolly players and not being able to commit a read on LS me and mahr.

When am I ever not defensive as fuck?

You wrote your case on me when I was not around. You said that Rels is likely to be mafia when he was not around.

I am not the one who is getting outplayed here if he is mafia, you are the one to TR him. Shame. SHame. Shame.

Yes, I also got massively outplayed. I agree, I even got more outplayed than you. Tis true.

I also tend to mafia read people when they are gone. But I pressure them hard when they around and I want to read them. Look at HF, look at mahrgell. Then they easy my mind with good replies and I back off again.

Rels will have to do the same.



And the initial list from EC came before my first list. So he didn't copy me.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 19:24 GMT
#976
btw EC is in the fucking thread right now. Maybe talk to your biggest scumread?
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 19:26 GMT
#978
On December 01 2016 04:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On December 01 2016 04:17 emperorchampion wrote:
On December 01 2016 04:16 darthfoley wrote:
On December 01 2016 04:14 Koshi wrote:
The only other person except NU I am willing to vote for is Onegu.

I am not interested in anything else D1.
I will lurk the thread, you can ask me questions, I am not doing shit anymore actively though.


Can you explain why TT is out of your equation if you think emperors posts on him were really good and you've been scum reading him forever??


I think I can explain since I'm in a similar boat: What NU and Onegu just posted on the past 2 pages or so is so crazy, even I think that Onegu is scum before TT at this moment in time.

Nothing I posted is crazy.

again. defensive as fuck. short message.


That is your biggest scumread. You don't want to engage him hard? Throw all the suspicion you have over his head? You do that every other game I saw against your scumreads. Tunnel and massive pressure. This game? Little pussycat.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 19:57 GMT
#984
On December 01 2016 04:35 darthfoley wrote:
I don't like how HF/Checkm8//Rels/Shapelog etc have peaced out why is anyone townreading Checkm8? This man has been MIA for four years.

Is this basically going to be a decision between NU vs. Onegu?

Always get nervous when half the town disappears as the wagon forms. Meh paranoia.

You can not just say, hey let's not lynch the guy who we all scumread and have good reasons for to be mafia, let's lynch the guy who is mia, without saying why we should lynch him.

being mia is pretty null.

These posts look townie.
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
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On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


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Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 23:28 Checkm8 wrote:
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On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:
On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia.


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Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.

On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote:
I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros)
And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes)
And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3
Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.

No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum.



Damn, I'm horrible at this. But believe me I'm town...because I'm not chocolate nor mocha...

On November 30 2016 15:36 Checkm8 wrote:
Ok caught up. With recent posts I now think Koshi is more likely town than mafia. Rels might also be town. They're pushing town forward with each discussion they make.
Scum circle for me is still NU, while I'm now scum reading Onegu. The latter seemed like he was commenting a lot early on and then suddenly went down a cliff. Also to note that nothing he said was actually with that much content, and that he's only poking some chosen people every once in a while. The friendly tone thing also applies to him.




disagree?
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 21:04 GMT
#1016
On December 01 2016 06:02 emperorchampion wrote:
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On December 01 2016 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
On December 01 2016 06:00 darthfoley wrote:
On December 01 2016 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
On December 01 2016 05:49 Rels wrote:
I hate your last sentence in this post. Everything is false. I read the game and contributed in ~1 hour way more than you at that point. I pushed the game forward the game while I was there


You pushed nothing forward. Your post about me was bull shit and you were not transparent about this Marzipan thing at all.

You didn't really do much apart from backtrack on stuff. Please point out which posts of margarita you liked that made you change your mind.


You haven't voted. Who are you voting for?


You just wrote who I'm voting for, nobody.


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This game you want to be part of town because town will be awesome.
This game town will not slack. You will not slack because you are town.
This game will be the game that demotivates every mafia team in 2017.


HF get on board and do something.

EC seems to be a pretty cool guy.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 21:07 GMT
#1019
On December 01 2016 06:07 mahrgell wrote:
Okay... also went through Rels filter again, trying to figure out why I had him on town before.

Summary is basically:
- His drop of suspicion on me felt weird.
- his weird progression of "this is good" -"is it?" - "no it isnt" is very townish

Uhm... yeah. I don't know, I suddenly feel like I would need more time to properly analyze his "cases" and points though. From memory I always felt like they were entirely in the realm of a townish thinking but many people have casted doubt on him.

What is everyone elses thought on Rels?

He is on spot 2.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 21:22 GMT
#1034
Rels coming into the thread and getting lynched as town also happened 2 times already this year. I am not moving.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 21:30 GMT
#1044
What Rels is doing makes no sense in mafia POV.

Either NU is mafia and he gets himself lynched.
Either NU is town and he gets himself lynched.


Like it's not like he tries to divert to lynch onto somebody else in a sneaky way or something. Or put shit on somebody based on preflip association with NU.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 21:31 GMT
#1045
Look at darthfoley. That guy showed some serious face.

Tried to divert the lynch from NU on ch8 with what? Some random accusation..
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 21:33 GMT
#1051
On December 01 2016 04:35 darthfoley wrote:
I don't like how HF/Checkm8//Rels/Shapelog etc have peaced out why is anyone townreading Checkm8? This man has been MIA for four years.

Is this basically going to be a decision between NU vs. Onegu?

Always get nervous when half the town disappears as the wagon forms. Meh paranoia.

On December 01 2016 06:06 darthfoley wrote:
Not voting (5): Holyflare, Shapelog, LightningStrike, Checkm8

That's only four names btw @ host. Would be shocked if all four were town.

Fearmongering. No real substance.

Proof stuff. Why isn't NU mafia? Why is x a better D1 lynch?
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 21:35 GMT
#1055
On December 01 2016 06:33 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 06:30 Koshi wrote:
What Rels is doing makes no sense in mafia POV.

Either NU is mafia and he gets himself lynched.
Either NU is town and he gets himself lynched.


Like it's not like he tries to divert to lynch onto somebody else in a sneaky way or something. Or put shit on somebody based on preflip association with NU.


This is the point I'm at. My problem is, that his posts also don't make any sense from town pov. Like it feels completely random.

Hmm. I am not currently with my head 100% in the game but is he not just catching up? He said something, people got offended, and that's it?

Was he pushing an agenda? I don't think so.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 21:35 GMT
#1056
On December 01 2016 06:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 06:30 Koshi wrote:
What Rels is doing makes no sense in mafia POV.

Either NU is mafia and he gets himself lynched.
Either NU is town and he gets himself lynched.


Like it's not like he tries to divert to lynch onto somebody else in a sneaky way or something. Or put shit on somebody based on preflip association with NU.


Let's wait for the flip first before concluding though.

The flip doesn't matter.
Even if NU flips town it is weird.

Random paranoia and random accusations is never good.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 21:38 GMT
#1060
On December 01 2016 06:31 Holyflare wrote:
Wtf are you talking about "one post".

You quite categorically stated that his play was entirely different from his last town game.

My entire point on you is that you disliked his play, you disliked his posts and then he's not a town read but your vote ended up on me. This vote is bull shit because:

A) the post you voted me for was AGREED BY THE PERSON IT WAS TARGETED TO as being correct. So your whole post and point was useless as shit.

B) I am pushing the one target that you thought was playing completely different to his town game.

I don't believe you come in the game and vote a person that is pushing someone you should believe is mafia from your own posts.

You then return and basically flat out lie saying that Margo was looking good for a massive logical post but he wasn't even anything other than null for you after it.

Basically you either town read him because of it and then your vote on me makes sense but then your list is a lie or you null/scum read him and my posts and aggression on him makes perfect sense and was good because you should be scum reading him and not pushing me due to him being well different from his town game.

The vote on you kinda made sense for me as well. Like.. I see how it was illogical. But I also know that at that point in the game I also wanted to vote you.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 21:41 GMT
#1063
I think this will be a correct lynch. We did well today.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 21:42 GMT
#1066
On December 01 2016 06:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 06:38 Koshi wrote:
On December 01 2016 06:31 Holyflare wrote:
Wtf are you talking about "one post".

You quite categorically stated that his play was entirely different from his last town game.

My entire point on you is that you disliked his play, you disliked his posts and then he's not a town read but your vote ended up on me. This vote is bull shit because:

A) the post you voted me for was AGREED BY THE PERSON IT WAS TARGETED TO as being correct. So your whole post and point was useless as shit.

B) I am pushing the one target that you thought was playing completely different to his town game.

I don't believe you come in the game and vote a person that is pushing someone you should believe is mafia from your own posts.

You then return and basically flat out lie saying that Margo was looking good for a massive logical post but he wasn't even anything other than null for you after it.

Basically you either town read him because of it and then your vote on me makes sense but then your list is a lie or you null/scum read him and my posts and aggression on him makes perfect sense and was good because you should be scum reading him and not pushing me due to him being well different from his town game.

The vote on you kinda made sense for me as well. Like.. I see how it was illogical. But I also know that at that point in the game I also wanted to vote you.


It makes sense for you because you were pushing mafia agenda and already disliked the tone of my early posts.

It doesn't make sense for a guy that is watching me push someone that should be his scum read.

Nha I did really well today. Regardless of who is mafia. Xcept if it is like EC/LS.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 21:47 GMT
#1075
On December 01 2016 06:46 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 06:41 Holyflare wrote:
On December 01 2016 06:38 Koshi wrote:
On December 01 2016 06:31 Holyflare wrote:
Wtf are you talking about "one post".

You quite categorically stated that his play was entirely different from his last town game.

My entire point on you is that you disliked his play, you disliked his posts and then he's not a town read but your vote ended up on me. This vote is bull shit because:

A) the post you voted me for was AGREED BY THE PERSON IT WAS TARGETED TO as being correct. So your whole post and point was useless as shit.

B) I am pushing the one target that you thought was playing completely different to his town game.

I don't believe you come in the game and vote a person that is pushing someone you should believe is mafia from your own posts.

You then return and basically flat out lie saying that Margo was looking good for a massive logical post but he wasn't even anything other than null for you after it.

Basically you either town read him because of it and then your vote on me makes sense but then your list is a lie or you null/scum read him and my posts and aggression on him makes perfect sense and was good because you should be scum reading him and not pushing me due to him being well different from his town game.

The vote on you kinda made sense for me as well. Like.. I see how it was illogical. But I also know that at that point in the game I also wanted to vote you.


It makes sense for you because you were pushing mafia agenda and already disliked the tone of my early posts.

It doesn't make sense for a guy that is watching me push someone that should be his scum read.


woah? So you are calling Koshi+Rels as scum team, and also accept the NU kill? Game solved?

No. He is saying I pushed mafia agenda as town. But I didn't.
I'll accept town!MVP award after the game.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 21:48 GMT
#1077
Going to shower to pass some time.
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November 30 2016 22:06 GMT
#1094
RIP UN.


So about this MVP award...
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 22:07 GMT
#1096
The moment he said my case on him was good it was kinda over.
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November 30 2016 22:08 GMT
#1098
On December 01 2016 07:07 emperorchampion wrote:
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fuck yeah guys!

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November 30 2016 22:22 GMT
#1108
4. Onegu
11. sicklucker
6. darthfoley
12. Tictock
1. Rels
2. Holyflare
3. Shapelog
5. LightningStrike
8. Checkm8
9. mahrgell
10. emperorchampion

EC is now pretty much confirmed town till lylo.
mahrgell played really throught the entire game. Almost impossible mafia due to play.
Checkm8 is pretty low on the list due to townie posts and being on NU quite early. But is not confirmed at all. Will rise up if he slacks too much.
LS I still like for town. He read town early game. He just fell off a bit.
I don't think Shape his initial post on NU was a buss. I will need to reread.

HF is a bit controversial/combative about things I don't really think he should be combative about. Will be hard to lynch this guy. The good news is I should be the doc target so HF can die to mafia KP.
Rels should play D2 way more active than his D1. null.

TT I feel could be town somhow, but took the wrong decision when he voted EC over NU. That is a BIG problem for me. BIG BIG problem.
darthfoley showed face. All these posts about who is not voting and people who are mia upset me a lot.
sicklucker I think is mafia. But he could not be mafia. But I think he is mafia. Come out to play sl.
Onegu is mafia.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 22:25 GMT
#1109
The top 4 will change a bit when I reread probably. But I doubt the 2 other mafia will look horrible. I also think there is good information in NU his filter because I don't think he is the kind that busses early. He probably believed he would better at the start of the game.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 22:34 GMT
#1114
On December 01 2016 07:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Rolf just saw the flip at I was right about 1 mafia in EC vs NU ^_^ I sorry I didn't vote I was taking plane trig test at deadline didn't think it would take 2 hours to do it.

Yes baller read. Somebody gave you shit for that read. Probably NU but if it is somebody else you might want to check that post for TMI.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 22:39 GMT
#1121
Reading NU his posts LS seems spewed town. Onegu probably as well, not as much as LS but it is close.

TT isn't. He could be anything. NU only touched him a little bit and it was very prudent. I can see them being buddies.
darthfoley comes out extremely bad as well with that unwarranted out of nowhere townread. I think somebody else before also gave darthfoley a townread out of nowhere in a list. If that is true, it looks really bad for him, because I can see mafia NU taking over that read as it pushes his agenda.

NU his push on sicklucker is interesting. I can see sicklucker bussing NU for that stunt.


Hmm page 3 and 4 are harder to take things out of. I think he figured out by then he might become the lynch. Conclusions taken out of those pages might be reaching.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 22:40 GMT
#1123
On December 01 2016 07:34 darthfoley wrote:
Yea my EoD didn't look great but I always get paranoid EoD and it doesn't make sense for me as mafia to try to get another train going when 4 possible votes were AFK. I think NU set it up for a partner to take town cred. Will analyze l8r

The problem lies in you attacking cm8 without any substance. That was odd and potentially you showing face.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 22:48 GMT
#1129
On December 01 2016 07:45 darthfoley wrote:
Also almost everyone has been town reading me this game so NU doing the same is kinda NAI

No it isn't. Because he never says something about you. He sees town sentiment reads you as town. So he just copies that safe read because as scumbuddies it pushes the mafia agenda immensely to not question that read at all.

mafia 101
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 22:53 GMT
#1132
On December 01 2016 07:51 darthfoley wrote:
Except

I'm un town vanille, or een vanilla town


It appears that is another thing you and NU have in common.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 22:59 GMT
#1134
On December 01 2016 07:56 darthfoley wrote:
No, cuz he was mafia

He disagrees.
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On December 01 2016 04:27 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I have to go and can't be there before EoD. If I'm lynched, so be it, I didn't do my job of being town-read. Perhaps I really need to rely on other shit to be town-read. I'm VT fwiw. Good luck.


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Koshi
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November 30 2016 23:39 GMT
#1152
It's ok. Just play normal tomorrow and I am pretty sure we will all be quite rational.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 23:46 GMT
#1153
Rels and HF should try to figure each other out tonight. It would make my testament post so much easier.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 23:47 GMT
#1154
On November 29 2016 09:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

How so? I recognize myself in his all-over-the-place posts, and he's the townierest dude itt.

Also, this is a town post, mang
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:23 Onegu wrote:
Where is everyone?


Is Onegu town?
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November 30 2016 23:48 GMT
#1157
That's 2 times the same post. But I am interested in rereading Shapelog his post on NU again.
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Koshi
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November 30 2016 23:54 GMT
#1159
Ok I read Shape his post. Hmm. Yeah he and Onegu can swap places on my list.
Especially Shape his answer on EC his post was off. It didn't increase the pressure on NU at all, almost tries to take it away by talking about people that aren't NU. Which is odd seeing he starts the post with congratulating EC on making a post on NU.
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On November 29 2016 13:37 Shapelog wrote:
Oh my Canadian friend, you posted about the right thing.
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On November 29 2016 12:57 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt.

Look at his entry:
On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened.

He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness.

That looks forced.

Flagged this post, I dun like it.
1) It looks like you're trying to make something out of nothing re: throwing something at LS.
2) It reads like you're smooshing two thoughts together, which makes me think that you had some conclusion in mind and are making the evidence fit that.

Requires further investigation.

I get 1, and I think we both came to that conclusion. Can you explain 2) a bit more? Personally, I can understand the point he made, and it didn't feel like he was painting in.
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 13:03 emperorchampion wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:46 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 28 2016 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys I here now I was busy and now I here what up?

Bam this was me as scum doing that sort of thing Onegu did the quote you townread him for.

Ehhhh, not quite the same vibe.

Your quoted post's tone is what makes it fucking mafia. You're acting all nicey-nice with the "Hey guys" and "what up" and giving an excuse for why you weren't there with the busy part. Onegu's post is not that. I don't think mafia would have made this post this early cus they would profit from inactivity and do not care about it.

Also, no, I have not read any of your games.

Flagged this post as well.

1) Activity will happen whether or not mafia wants it to, therefore it's null imo.
2) LS doing this "Hey town read me for this thing you town read someone else for" reminds me of things that I've said when I'm scum. Suspicious!


1) He's talking about Onegu wanting more activity to happen and trying to cause more to happen. It was the "where is everyone" post. Personally opionons aside, do you think he could come to this conclusion based off his reasoning?

2) What do you make about my earlier post about LS tone?

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Koshi
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November 30 2016 23:57 GMT
#1164
3. Shapelog
11. sicklucker
12. Tictock
6. darthfoley

1. Rels
2. Holyflare
4. Onegu

5. LightningStrike
8. Checkm8
9. mahrgell
10. emperorchampion

After reading filters.



Gn all.
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December 01 2016 08:28 GMT
#1183
On December 01 2016 13:37 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 12:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Does anyone have thoughts on Onegu's end of day 1?

If m8 or shape come along this could be something nice to look at.

I kinda hated his post where he went "Looks like it's NU or myself, but I hate Koshi so I'll vote Emp."

Didn't even have the balls to vote Koshi despite calling him mafia for a good chunk of the day. Though I do recall he had said some stuff about you so it wasn't a totally random vote.

Was there something that struck you?

Good analysis of the situation. That and the 2 posts above that bring you to the townier site of the list. I think you are wrong on HF but I am not sure yet.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 08:30 GMT
#1184
On December 01 2016 16:11 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think df's recent posts look that bad.

And then he says this. I completely agree.
When your framer dies, I would not make the posts df made after flip.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 08:31 GMT
#1185
Shape/Onegu would be the extremely boring answers to this game. Only Rels / HF can spice it up a bit.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 08:37 GMT
#1187
I also cleared some people first after a buddy mafia lynch in DotA2. pretty NAI.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 08:40 GMT
#1189
On December 01 2016 17:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 17:30 Koshi wrote:
On December 01 2016 16:11 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think df's recent posts look that bad.

And then he says this. I completely agree.
When your framer dies, I would not make the posts df made after flip.

Stop hedging on me and just call me town. It's far easier.

No. There are too many confirmed towns atm.
You did start the game pushing Mahrgell, then somewhere Koshi and EoD tried to swap off NU towards Rels.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 09:36 GMT
#1198
On December 01 2016 18:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 17:40 Koshi wrote:
On December 01 2016 17:38 Holyflare wrote:
On December 01 2016 17:30 Koshi wrote:
On December 01 2016 16:11 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think df's recent posts look that bad.

And then he says this. I completely agree.
When your framer dies, I would not make the posts df made after flip.

Stop hedging on me and just call me town. It's far easier.

No. There are too many confirmed towns atm.
You did start the game pushing Mahrgell, then somewhere Koshi and EoD tried to swap off NU towards Rels.


I pushed mar when he looked bad, which you and rels have both admitted. I stopped pushing mar when he become productive and blatantly took my advice of not walls of text summary and instead questions.

You also pushed mar, so unless you're saying you're mafia then......

I told people to vote nu over rels too and gained no credit for anything. No way I pass up that sweet free cred.

I'm only pushing the people that look bad tbh. Maybe you'd like for me to not play mafia or something? You don't even know rels's alignment.

Yes. You have some townie signs as well.
But in this game we have the luxury to disregard 4 people as confirmed town so we can look into all remaining people critically.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 09:59 GMT
#1200
On December 01 2016 18:43 Holyflare wrote:
Nobody is confirmed town because of NU flipping. Some people look better though.

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December 01 2016 10:23 GMT
#1203
I think we auto lynch Shape and then I don't know. Many candidates that all have something going for them.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 10:24 GMT
#1204
I think sicklucker looks the worst by far.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 10:53 GMT
#1206
Good thing I keep this handy list updated. I totally forgot about sl after sleeping.

3. Shapelog
11. sicklucker

4. Onegu
1. Rels
2. Holyflare

6. darthfoley
12. Tictock

5. LightningStrike
8. Checkm8
9. mahrgell
10. emperorchampion

Reading TT his analysis posts during the night I cannot see this guy be mafia. Such clean and not forced reads + analysis. Really like that a lot. He doesn't force his ideas on anybody but they are good observations. He is focusing on the correct people.

If shape is mafia, darthfoley is kinda confirmed town. There is no good explanation why he goes hard against his buddy Shape after his framer flips. I live in a world in which Shape is mafia so atm I have an extreme hard time seeing darth be mafia. Even if Shape is town, darth only comes into play because some questionable posts on NU and PoE, but would mafia show face so obviously? darth has a couple really townie moments (start of game, start of night) and some pretty bad moments (around NU lynch). Mafia players tend to make gray posts, darth isn't. So darth is not mafia?

HF is being called "obvious town pushed by dumbasses" by 2 people that could be mafia. And my feelings say he could be town due to his laid back playstyle, which shows by the fact he is not trying to take control of the thread. The only thing I am missing is real hard push on mafia, one in which he convinces other people to vote mafia, but I don't know if he had to do that in this game yet. I also don't see any mafia agenda in his early play, as mafia and with NU looking this horrible, I think he would do something else than what he did here.

Rels is probably town because he interacts with so many people. He looks for an interesting post, comments on it, and goes looking again. Doesn't seem there is any agenda in his play. Just needs more activity to remove doubt.

Onegu will die if the people above him show any townie signs during D2. The NU spew is very weak. Other than that. Onegu has nothing going for him except SL vouching for him. Which makes it almost impossible not to lynch sl before Onegu.

Sicklucker/Shape
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 11:10 GMT
#1209
Good analysis. I agree that Rels ignored NU his entire game except twice when I directly asked him. Which is very very bad.


You covered everything on why the Rels is mafia part so let me focus on the wifom town part:
I ask Rels twice about directly about NU, and twice he answered and didn't try to overcompensate on his answer. So either Rels is a really good mafia player, (newbie mafia players feel like they need to say more useless words when talking about a scumbuddy), or he is town and NU was simply not on his mind.
Look at how Shapelog talks about NU for example. It's always so longdreaded and wishy washy. Rels is quick, clean and decisive.

I am not saying Rels is town, but if he is mafia his answers to those 2 questions were twice very clean. You got to know, as mafia you know your buddy is constantly under fire, and constantly you feel pressured talking about your buddy. While Rels is seemingly unaffected by that.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 11:24 GMT
#1214
sicklucker bussed him because NU attacked him.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 11:30 GMT
#1216
sicklucker coming back to the thread and not change his vote but also not "attacking" or convincing people to vote NU is pretty poor town play.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 12:43 GMT
#1226
On December 01 2016 21:23 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 09:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.

How so? I recognize myself in his all-over-the-place posts, and he's the townierest dude itt.

Also, this is a town post, mang
On November 29 2016 08:23 Onegu wrote:
Where is everyone?

Koshi was this the spew you called weak ? I think it makes Onegu super super likely town

Let me live in my world in which I can lynch Onegu.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 12:50 GMT
#1231
last time sl bussed somebody unnecessarily it was because that person attacked him. I would look up the game but it was too long ago.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 13:43 GMT
#1239
+ Show Spoiler +
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I like how the initial explanation, the tldr and the further elaboration are all the exact same sentence.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 13:52 GMT
#1248
On December 01 2016 22:50 Rels wrote:
DO YOU NOT WANT TO READ THAT MUCH TEXT

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December 01 2016 14:06 GMT
#1258
You are crazy if you think NU / EC is mafia on mafia.
NU attacked LS and EC in a way they are most likely both town. (Trying to convince town in multiple posts)


The fake outrage on the sl push by NU is way more likely mafia on mafia. (He never really tried to convince people to vote sl, especially painfully obvious in that last quote. )
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 14:07 GMT
#1259
How you can say NU vs EC is mafia on mafia and NU vs sl isn't is beyond me.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 14:08 GMT
#1260
NU pleaded to town multiple times to get ls scumread early game, people said ls is town and NU kept going. Same with EC.

His push on sl was completely different.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 14:15 GMT
#1264
On December 01 2016 23:10 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 23:06 Koshi wrote:
You are crazy if you think NU / EC is mafia on mafia.
NU attacked LS and EC in a way they are most likely both town. (Trying to convince town in multiple posts)


The fake outrage on the sl push by NU is way more likely mafia on mafia. (He never really tried to convince people to vote sl, especially painfully obvious in that last quote. )

Actually, I don't feel NU tried to get town to lynch EC until the very end. On the other hand I didn't reread how EC pushed him so from this view it might be different.

I disagree on SL. That was at a point in his filter where NU had the liberty to chose any target. I think it's unlikely he went on a partner of his this hard over this little.

Because that is why we lynched NU. As mafia he can't bring the fire he does as town. Ofc this also shows in the fact he can't get his scumreads lynched. BUT it is blatantly obvious he tried to "sell" the ls and ec scumreads to town.

While he didn't try to sell the sl read. It looks possible that he just made something on a scummate that wasn't really that impressive to start with. It was a good out of the box case on a scumbuddy.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 14:18 GMT
#1265
On December 01 2016 23:11 mahrgell wrote:
@Koshi
so do you think Rels is bad town or does that make him scum?
Not sure where you are going here.

Like you lock SL to be scum, then do you think Rels is desperately trying to defend him here? Or do you just think he is doing terrible "reads"?

I don't know. sl is not locked scum at all. It is possible Rels and cm8 are mafia for example. And then this "bad" analysis is because Rels is simply not looking for mafia.

I also dislike how he so easily in that analysis disregards or ignores everything else EC did. EC is almost never mafia just based on his posting. Even if NU flipped town I wouldn't call EC mafia.

But Rels thinks EC is mafia? Very weak.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 14:21 GMT
#1268
On December 01 2016 23:19 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 23:15 Koshi wrote:
On December 01 2016 23:10 Rels wrote:
On December 01 2016 23:06 Koshi wrote:
You are crazy if you think NU / EC is mafia on mafia.
NU attacked LS and EC in a way they are most likely both town. (Trying to convince town in multiple posts)


The fake outrage on the sl push by NU is way more likely mafia on mafia. (He never really tried to convince people to vote sl, especially painfully obvious in that last quote. )

Actually, I don't feel NU tried to get town to lynch EC until the very end. On the other hand I didn't reread how EC pushed him so from this view it might be different.

I disagree on SL. That was at a point in his filter where NU had the liberty to chose any target. I think it's unlikely he went on a partner of his this hard over this little.

Because that is why we lynched NU. As mafia he can't bring the fire he does as town. Ofc this also shows in the fact he can't get his scumreads lynched. BUT it is blatantly obvious he tried to "sell" the ls and ec scumreads to town.

While he didn't try to sell the sl read. It looks possible that he just made something on a scummate that wasn't really that impressive to start with. It was a good out of the box case on a scumbuddy.

Basically we agree that his treatment of SL and EC are quite different. But I think you're wrong deciding which is scummier and wihch is townier.

Well that is incomprehensible for me.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 14:22 GMT
#1269
At this point it seems like mafia can't grasp how townie EC looks.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 14:27 GMT
#1271
On December 01 2016 23:22 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 23:18 Koshi wrote:
On December 01 2016 23:11 mahrgell wrote:
@Koshi
so do you think Rels is bad town or does that make him scum?
Not sure where you are going here.

Like you lock SL to be scum, then do you think Rels is desperately trying to defend him here? Or do you just think he is doing terrible "reads"?

I don't know. sl is not locked scum at all. It is possible Rels and cm8 are mafia for example. And then this "bad" analysis is because Rels is simply not looking for mafia.

I also dislike how he so easily in that analysis disregards or ignores everything else EC did. EC is almost never mafia just based on his posting. Even if NU flipped town I wouldn't call EC mafia.

But Rels thinks EC is mafia? Very weak.

The bolded is wrong. I didn't plan to only focus on NU filter, I started to read his filter and started to make a post and finally it took all my time, and more actually. Good thing it's night time.
Also, nothing is bad in my analysis, these are not absolutes tells but I think they are all quite good.

about EC vs NU

You are clearly not reading the posts between them carefully enough. NU didn't have conversations with anybody xcept with EC, which means it came completely from EC his side. But the way EC kept asking questions to NU with an open mind and the way NU kept painfully defending against it shows that it was not Mafia vs Mafia.

That is almost 99% certain. Like... How can you even put EC at this point in the game as red....
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 14:28 GMT
#1272
And I still didn't like how we had a conversation and NU didn't engage us at all. Makes me believe I was talking to a fellow mafia.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 14:39 GMT
#1274
3. Shapelog
11. sicklucker
1. Rels

4. Onegu

8. Checkm8
2. Holyflare
6. darthfoley
12. Tictock

5. LightningStrike
10. emperorchampion
9. mahrgell

Punishing some inactivity.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 15:01 GMT
#1281
On December 01 2016 23:52 mahrgell wrote:
Just read HF:
Is he always such a tunnel dweller? He spends the first 36 hours with nobody except me, then goes on with focusing on Rels entirely. There is like one comment on DF, and a 2 post conversation with Koshi in his filter.
All questions outside of that are blocked with excuses of him being too lazy to do that.

Like his entire play can be seen as a super tunnely townie, or a scum player who uses the tunnel excuse to never talk about anything else.
I guess he is on my Neut-pile too.

Gimme vig, and I will shoot him for his name butchery though.

If you have the same feelings D3, lynch him with everything you got and don't talk to him. Just lynch him. Gather your townie friends and lynch him.

atm it is too early to judge. He is a bit underwhelming but mafia might need to shoot him anyway.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 15:08 GMT
#1284
It's fine. This way I can get the town protection.

If I was mafia and not Koshi I would rb Koshi and kill HF. Unless I was really good at bluereading then I would RB my blueread.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 15:12 GMT
#1285
setup 2 is pretty stupid.
setup 3 is pretty op for town. 2 cops basically vs no RB
setup 1 is fair. but would the host go for the boring setup?
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 15:15 GMT
#1287
Maybe mafia needs to shoot Rels.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 18:13 GMT
#1349
On December 02 2016 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
My lynch pool/order is:

Shape
Sl if shape is town, off list completely if mafia
Checkm8
Rels (confirmed town)
Onegu

Why can't shape and sl be mafia together?
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 18:16 GMT
#1354
Oh. I see.
Well. We will see what night brings.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 18:20 GMT
#1357
On December 02 2016 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Koshi what your thoughts on my added points about Shapelog being scum?

I can see it be true. I also want to lynch Shape over everybody else atm.
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Koshi
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December 01 2016 19:37 GMT
#1370
On December 02 2016 04:31 Rels wrote:
OK I read EC filter and I see what everyone else seems to think already. I don't see him and NU being partner. Attacking from the start + then naturally townreading him + then attacking him again for his bad post on C8 is a pretty strong not-partner indicator.

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December 13 2016 00:24 GMT
#3286
wp mahrgell. Now I am sad I didn't read your filter after D1.
Maybe mahrgell is mafia and triggered me with his dumb shit. And as mafia he wants to buddy HF. I haven't read his filter yet. I also don't know the guy. Maybe he is a great mafia player.


I just couldn't get passed Onegu/HF their filters. HF with 29 pages of filter I might have figured out. But Onegu? Auto lynch every game over people that actually play.
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December 13 2016 00:40 GMT
#3290
On December 13 2016 09:33 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2016 09:24 Koshi wrote:
wp mahrgell. Now I am sad I didn't read your filter after D1.
Maybe mahrgell is mafia and triggered me with his dumb shit. And as mafia he wants to buddy HF. I haven't read his filter yet. I also don't know the guy. Maybe he is a great mafia player.


I just couldn't get passed Onegu/HF their filters. HF with 29 pages of filter I might have figured out. But Onegu? Auto lynch every game over people that actually play.



Comeon Koshi I actually played this game...

I read you filter during D3 and it consisted of 4 pages yelling Koshi was mafia, being silent when Shape was lynched, and then yelling SL was not mafia during D3 and attacking TT who was lynching mafia SL.

Yeah.... No words.
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Koshi
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December 13 2016 00:44 GMT
#3292
On December 13 2016 09:41 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2016 09:40 Koshi wrote:
On December 13 2016 09:33 Onegu wrote:
On December 13 2016 09:24 Koshi wrote:
wp mahrgell. Now I am sad I didn't read your filter after D1.
Maybe mahrgell is mafia and triggered me with his dumb shit. And as mafia he wants to buddy HF. I haven't read his filter yet. I also don't know the guy. Maybe he is a great mafia player.


I just couldn't get passed Onegu/HF their filters. HF with 29 pages of filter I might have figured out. But Onegu? Auto lynch every game over people that actually play.



Comeon Koshi I actually played this game...

I read you filter during D3 and it consisted of 4 pages yelling Koshi was mafia, being silent when Shape was lynched, and then yelling SL was not mafia during D3 and attacking TT who was lynching mafia SL.

Yeah.... No words.



Read day 1 and 5 thats the important stuff

I read D1 and D3.
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