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Welp forgot about silence period. anyways Koshi was going to be my top town.
Town:
EC: Looks much better post flip of NU plus been trying to move the game along.
Mah: His actions in this game seem to match his last game and been trying to keep my straight.
Rels: Decent questioning when around doesn't seem much to stick out.
TT: Looked better with recent posting plus NU flip seems to point him to being town.
Onegu: Okay content his EoD looked decent wouldn't kill but most likely not scum atm.
Null:
Darth: Okay content but nothing to note worthy except him helping with the case on Shapelog and treating me like I am the boogie man or something lmao.
HF: Dunno how to feel about him At EoD voted Rels yet said to lynch NU which doesn't make sense from him.
Sicklucker: Was lazy Day 1/Night 1 would like to see what new content he will bring.
Scum:
Checkm8: Little content plus pulled the newbie card so many times instead of actually trying to find scum. Don't lynch before Shapelog.
Kill with Fire:
Shapelog: See Koshi's/Darth's case plus my addition to it.
##Vote: Shapelog
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*You find a note attached to the thread. It reads*
"Well my joke vote never was counted, oh well 1" game ban.
Anyways, I have to finish this god damm paper and be back later to actually play this game.
Feel free to take out the frustration out on my stunt devil in the mean time.
-Shape"
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On December 02 2016 04:36 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh marigold.
I see what you did there Honeyfoofoo.
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I'm also a bit surprised Koshi was so aggressive as cop. T.T
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Shit Koshi you played too well and got yourself shot. Not the worst thing ever though as we seem to have a pretty good handle on this game without extra blue info.
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On December 02 2016 07:03 darthfoley wrote:
don't understand why the medic or jk didn't save Koshi. Thought he was most town
I'm kinda assuming it's setup #3 with a flipped Framer and Cop. Maybe JK decided he had a better TR on someone else, also possibly got RB'd.
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Well let's get this Day started.
##Vote: Shapelog
Better get that stunt double ready to be hung.
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I shall also commence the festivities
##Vote: Shapelog
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Koshi kill confirms me town.
##vote Shapelog
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On December 02 2016 08:15 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi kill confirms me town.
##vote Shapelog
lol how?
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On December 02 2016 08:16 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 08:15 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi kill confirms me town.
##vote Shapelog lol how?
So many reasons. The primary one being I'm not a retard.
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Shooting koshi is the second dumbest thing I've seen in this game.
The first being not saving koshi.
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On December 02 2016 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
Shooting koshi is the second dumbest thing I've seen in this game.
The first being not saving koshi.
I thought you were going to die actually LoL
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On December 02 2016 07:49 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 07:03 darthfoley wrote:
don't understand why the medic or jk didn't save Koshi. Thought he was most town I'm kinda assuming it's setup #3 with a flipped Framer and Cop. Maybe JK decided he had a better TR on someone else, also possibly got RB'd.
What, why 3? What do you think happened last night?
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Grmpf... I just wanted to read, not post before sleeping... But rant incoming... I feel like this is going completely wrong here.
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wow that nk. so no medic in this setup...
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On December 02 2016 05:11 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 04:54 mahrgell wrote:I just don't like this guyHF - His number of posts does not really change his lack of real activity. Has been on 2 tunnels so far and openly celebrates his unwillingness to look deeper at other players or do anything besides tunneling. Oh and if I would be undecided between him and anyone else I would policy lynch him for this alone. This followup makes me actually feel very bad about him. Exchanging "i'm not being a dick and wont try to make you uncomfortable" for "don't scumread me" is quite pathetic. Additionally him claiming himself to be toptown (have I mentioned I hate that?) without basically anything speaking for that feels almost like baiting for protection. I don't see a world where scum would lynch him. hahaha =D The links you posted are NAI for HF, he can be super annoying as either alignment. The first things you're saying are the best actually. He COULD be scum playing the "I don't really care about this game" card but I don't think so anymore, because his reads flow and change logically, and more importantly, I don't have the feeling that he's hiding behind tunnels to not do anything else.
First of all. I already said, that the first link for my is ust policy lynch territory. The second one is really not. Like I have no clue how the TL mafia meta goes. But hailing players as such great mafia players, when this seems to be entirely based on them establishing such a bullshit meta and not ever being questioned y anyone else out of some weird kind of respect for it seems fucking weird.
Now to the rest: I am not disagreeing with the part that his reads were kinda fluent. Hell, his "advice" to me regarding how to improve my play was actually good. But the point is, that every semi competent player should be able to do fluent reads when he singles out only 2 or 3 people out of 13. Other players(town and scum) make weird stuff. ump on those and score your points.
Where scum really trips is when they have to deal those players who are more difficult. When they have to commit to interpretations etc. Again, you tell me this is his meta. If it is, great, then his play is not scum indicative. But it still has to be questioned.
Next you say he is not hiding behind it? Really? Are we even in the same game? I'm not in the mood to filter dive right now, but from memory I know that when he was on me, I asked several questions regarding other players, wanted reads on anyone but me, he refused, saying that he is all on me, and doesnt care about anyone els,e because at work. He later came back, and didn't bother one bit to look a bit broader.
Later on, he replaced me with you, now all he did was going after you. Again, there were several instances were he actively said that he is not willing to dive other filters and refused to answer questions. Really? He is not hiding behind this bullshit meta you are so willing to accept?
Now look at his defenses.
On December 02 2016 05:32 Holyflare wrote:
I honestly don't get how anyone can say I haven't been active either. I've made a lot of cases and good pushes.
Not sure in what world he is living, but nope. Simply nope. His entire acitivity was on a handful players. If we do not udge acitvity by post count (Onegu would also do really well in that category) but how much of the game the person covered, than HF is in deep shit territory.
On December 02 2016 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
It's also not pathetic in the slightest. I get tunneled on people that call me mafia almost exclusively and rels looks kind of the same so giving each other breathing room is the best thing to do.
Next post. Oh, wasn't he just a second ago so certain how great his play was? Suddenly he is getting tunneled on players who scumread him. Sounds like absolutely great mafia play. And yes, I completely agree that sometimes giving each other breathing room is a great idea. But when someone tells you to stop this tone, then going in, escalating it further and then using this as a bargain chip to get your breathing room? Nope! And seemingly this is completely okay for everyone.
On December 02 2016 08:21 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 08:16 darthfoley wrote:On December 02 2016 08:15 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi kill confirms me town.
##vote Shapelog lol how? So many reasons. The primary one being I'm not a retard.
Okay, not much time has passed. But somehow I feel people are again gonna accept this. He did the same D1 and everybody was fine with it. Today I won't. If this is really all he has to bring, he should die.
Like until now I tried to pay respect to what people told me about the meta on TL and in forum mafia in general. But this case I really can not do that, because it reminds me of last game. You were in there.
I called out Foreman for exactly the same shit on D1. That he was scum in this case can be called noobs luck on my part. But anyway. I felt my case was reasonable. But then everybody jumped me.
"But Mahrgell, him not answering your questions and giving you a finger, this could be part of his character and meta. This is really nothing." And Foreman grinned happily and didn't answer
"But Mahrgell, him not caring about large parts of the game and publicly celebrating this arrogant and ignorant attitude, this could be really part of his meta, dont blame him for that" and again Foreman grinned happily and continued.
Foreman then went MIA though, so the problem resolved itself. Like I had seen a comparison with Foreman earlier this game. Not sure who it was (CM8?). But really. If there is any Foreman equivalent in this game, it is HF. And people are completely willing to let this happen and it fucking annoys me.
He loses nothing as town if he drops this ans finally starts answering and caring. But it makes his scum play pretty damn easy when everyone lets it go.
And then I see people telling me "but keep HF alive for the first couple of days, lynch him later, he is a great contributor"
Seriously, I was doing this with Koshi. But I have no fucking reason to do that with HF. I simply don't see great contributions. What has he actually done this game? Like if you compare the contributions of yourself(Rels), DF, Koshi, Emp to him... Is HF really the guy who can be called a leading contributor? My answer is no.
TLDR:
##vote Holyflare
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And no, my rant does not end here....
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On December 02 2016 08:15 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi kill confirms me town.
##vote Shapelog
lol how. it means any protective roles probably think your town tho 
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EPT
