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darthfoley
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mahrgell
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Let's do it quick this time - D1 lazy scum or lazy town, after rereading I still feel lazy town is more likely, there was one large list post which read well but had it obvious flaws as pointed out earlier - his ending of the day looked strange, but it follows this "lazy ..." stuff. - his N1 looks more active, finally. What I lack here is a clear direction. Like I see statements, judgements, but it ends here. Him going with "lets kill the 3 afks" fits the lazy scum narrative, but at the same time you can't ask afks, so well... I can somehow get behind that too So from only this, TT is just another fish in the neut pool for me. BUT... there is one thing... that confused me and I would like to have answers: Here HF is a townlean, although very weirdly put. (this was mentioned by several players) Before EoD, when he settled on the NU lynch now HF could very well be mafia. I don't read this as a direct contradiction to his first post, although I can see this being scummish to move of a read which was called out a lot for waffling. But that is not what I'm after. In his first content post after EoD now he wants to build a towncircle with Koshi, Rels (both locktown in his initial list), me (explained in that post) and HF. Where does HF come from? He didn't mention HF at all. HF certainly did not suddenly look better because NU flipped scum. And I didn't see any great posts from HF between EoD and TTs post to explainn this change of mind either. But somehow suddenly TT wanted to town circle with HF? I would love to know how this came together. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3941 Posts
LOL, I just clicked that post again. He actually mentioned why he hardtowns HF. -.- So lets drp all this, and just call TT lazy neut with a minor town lean. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3941 Posts
At this point his filter just reads well. Like fluent well thought out points, a clear train of thought. The COPCHECK stuff is pretty wifom to interpret so not getting into that. Like he has absolutely nothing to make me doubt him, but due to his lack of commital it is also hard to completely townlock him. Solid townlean it is. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
@Checkm8 Hi | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
Last game you played the same style I did in my first game too, very structured posts, everything documented and sourced. We even both got N1 killed This game you have spend hours filtering everybody to give a fair assesment of the game, which I also did in my second game. This is pretty cool | ||
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Rels
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darthfoley
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Holyflare
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On December 02 2016 04:31 Rels wrote: OK I read EC filter and I see what everyone else seems to think already. I don't see him and NU being partner. Attacking from the start + then naturally townreading him + then attacking him again for his bad post on C8 is a pretty strong not-partner indicator. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://67.media.tumblr.com/f862ecd2963ad3de37b036ac268196b3/tumblr_n3sd8teYgc1revk8bo1_400.gif) | ||
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Rels
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Rels
France13467 Posts
And now I really found his "LS might be scum" post townie. I disagree with it, but it was a new thought out of nowhere which can make sense. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
On December 02 2016 04:41 Rels wrote: A big thing to use when trapping scum!HF is seeing if he tries to destroy people with pretty arguments or not. And I had this impression that he was burrying me over exactly that each time I tried to post, wasting the little time I had. But reading his filter with a calm mind he's always replying more or less logically to something. And now I really found his "LS might be scum" post townie. I disagree with it, but it was a new thought out of nowhere which can make sense. Apologies if I missed it, where's your head right now with the 2 mafia? Still the spew posts from a few pages back? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 02 2016 04:47 darthfoley wrote: Apologies if I missed it, where's your head right now with the 2 mafia? Still the spew posts from a few pages back? Shape for sure. Then I dunno, C8 maybe, but I'm pretty lost. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On November 30 2016 07:47 darthfoley wrote: Don't agree with Koshi's TR on Checkm8. He's pulled the "im a newb" thing at least twice, and he has only mentioned like one "gut" read. He's scummier than town for now, although I don't think he's at the top of my list atm. Being a first time player is a bit intimidating from either alignment I mean I literally just played a game with you where you were town and you didn't play D1 like this at all. You were aggressive and went after people, asked many more questions, and seemed perfectly invested in the game-- all while there was pressure on you. So unless you've lost the mafia passion after doing really well last game individually/winning as a town within the last two weeks, your excuse is a little hard to buy. You did ask about me and EC, but it seemed half assed. TT is in my scum lean pile Also not a fan of HF so far. He's kind of a being a dick which is NAI(?) but annoying. Especially after playing a game with NU and Calix. I made similar points against mahrgell last game but I was wrong, and he's playing very similar to that game-- though mahrgell is being a little over combative. HF has spent 80% of his filter grilling one dude and I don't see the point from a town perspective, especially as a uber veteran of TL mafia. If someone can make a post explaining why he/she thinks LS is town for reasons other than BS meta claims I'd love to hear it. I got burned last time people simply accepted a meta town read of LS so I want to hear something real. I do think the dynamic between LS/NU/EC is a bit interesting (LS claiming that EC vs. NU is MvT). Not sure where I stand on that yet besides that i'm town reading NU and i'm up in the air between the other two. Mahrgell/Koshi/Shape and probably Rels are on my town pile for now. DF why did you not include NU in your town list if you were townreading him ? | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3941 Posts
Scummish: Shlog - I read him after a lot was said against him, felt like those allegations were true. If there was a lynch, I would lynch him. But I want to read him again during the day in a less biased state of mind. I just don't like this guy HF - His number of posts does not really change his lack of real activity. Has been on 2 tunnels so far and openly celebrates his unwillingness to look deeper at other players or do anything besides tunneling. Oh and if I would be undecided between him and anyone else I would policy lynch him for this alone. This followup makes me actually feel very bad about him. Exchanging "i'm not being a dick and wont try to make you uncomfortable" for "don't scumread me" is quite pathetic. Additionally him claiming himself to be toptown (have I mentioned I hate that?) without basically anything speaking for that feels almost like baiting for protection. I don't see a world where scum would lynch him. The Pool of Neuts (which is somehow very connected with the pool of barely actives..) CM8 - Nothing to say. The main reason I feel negative about him is the lack of targets and there has to be 2 scums. Also the afk scum story would kinda explain this weird D1. Even if he upgrades, I wouldn't send him to lylo! TT - again, low activity makes him difficult to judge. He is in a similar place with CM8, but general feeling on him is a tad better. I can see him easily make a better impression later and worth keeping around to lylo SL - He is kinda different from the other 2. If he is scum, I absolutely don't understand his play. If he is town, I don't understand it either but may call it most lazy. He is certainly not the guy I would want to go to lylo with. Onegu - Almost forgot about him... I still have some open question to him somewhere... No reason to scumread him, but besides this NU-interaction which I'm not so certain about there is also no reason to townread him either Let's be friends... for now Rels - this may come as a surprise... But Explanation is at bottom of the list. Koshi - I certainly don't want to see him before D4 for his NU involvement. Then I will start to massively tinfoil him and I will vote him over anybody at lylo. DF - Reads all around well. I like him. My filter dive was not with full brain capacity and I havent seen anything to lock him town, but I feel good with him. LS - uhm, I admit I lazily read him. Probably among the first to reevaluate. I felt his interaction with NU can't be MvM. But there has been some stuff against him, and his wrong defense(he did exactly what HF said but claimed it not to be that) vs HFs argument unsettled me. Wanna marry me? Emp - Emp vs NU was not MvM. period. Absolute end of story. If it was, I somehow end in lylo with Emp and lose, I offer my sig for whatever they want. regarding Rels: there was something I noticed earlier, but I wanted more reactions from others regarding him after my "case" on him, as I felt this discussion was still potentially productive regarding others people alignment. This post I can absolutely not see from scum. case1: Rels is scum with SL. Rels should absolutely know this bus is in SLs range if the scumQT has more than 10 posts. And he/they should know others will point that out correctly. Unlike this is the failed spew of the century... NO WAY case2: Rels is scum, SL is not. Why make this comment? SL is one of the main lynch candidates with Koshi on his ass. There is no need to say that. Even if he believes this to be true, just don't say anything. If he knows it is false, even worse. People will prove him wrong and he looks shit. Or people won't do it and he just did a great contribution to prevent a mislynch. This is only one isolated thing though. But sometimes it needs just one big thing to convince me. Like if his entire play feels scummy I will rethink this at some point. But certainly not now! | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3941 Posts
I hope there is still a game for me to play tomorrow ^.^ | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On December 02 2016 04:41 Rels wrote: A big thing to use when trapping scum!HF is seeing if he tries to destroy people with pretty arguments or not. And I had this impression that he was burrying me over exactly that each time I tried to post, wasting the little time I had. But reading his filter with a calm mind he's always replying more or less logically to something. And now I really found his "LS might be scum" post townie. I disagree with it, but it was a new thought out of nowhere which can make sense. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://media1.giphy.com/media/13M0GBv7MsKV2g/giphy.gif) | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
On December 02 2016 04:53 Rels wrote: DF why did you not include NU in your town list if you were townreading him ? Cuz I didn't wanna be redundant most likely | ||
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Holyflare
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