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On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their game with me ever they would try to push me at someway.
This was where I said I thought it was NU.
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@Darth I don't think you say "I'm town" a million times if you are trying to go down for your team.
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On November 30 2016 22:30 Shapelog wrote:
Urg. Not being able to play yesterday messed me up.
Got my busier schedule today. When I get time, i'll filter.
I thought of something about SL last night however. I'm not terribly sure about it yet, and honestly, the evidence to support it is very very very bad. But in a previous mafia game (can't remember the name), I fake claimed mafia early into the game (was town). Scum!SL jumped on it, and pushed the fact that I could (due to my "eccrtice" past) be doing that as mafia to look fearless. He used it also to justify tunneling me for the day phase.
Here, SL did not take that liberty. Instead, he just nodded and left it be, while trying to gain info (post about the discussion being bad between me and LS but townie) from what happens around it. He could of jumped on it if he was mafia (especially this time with my claim.) yet didn't.
I know it was one game, but he had a opportunity to push me for it and didn't take it. thoughts (even tho i won't be here in 10 mins :/)?
This post is why sl and shape aren't likely a team
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@DF
And now to the general idea.
Pure feeling dictated me exactly this idea too. It was pretty much the idea with which I went into my diving session this morning. (then I got distracted by Rels -.-) It just... lead to nowhere.
If he was doing it for towncred, then whos towncred?
Emp? Yeah, he got a shit ton of towncred from it. But I really believe he is town :D
Koshi? Quite similar. Like I can see a lot of tinfoils involving Koshi. But I will let those rest for now.
SL? Did he even get towncred from it? lol. Like you make it sound like this was some great elaborate bussing play with NU taking one for the team. This does not fit SLs play at all. Like I'm really not sold on him, and given his contributions so far he is pretty much on the same level as HF and CM8 for me... But if that is the case, then it certainly isn't a great elaborate play but pure chaos.
Myself? I have great insider infos telling me that this isn't the case.
Or towncred via on of his spews? If this was the case... It may actually be worth looking at who pointed out which spew. Doing this and hoping that town finds thsoe spews sounds like an awful idea. But if it is really this, then you could find both scum at once here.
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Therefore your point about me not saying which one of NU or EC was scum was debunked.
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On December 02 2016 03:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Therefore your point about me not saying which one of NU or EC was scum was debunked.
At Holyflare.
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On December 02 2016 03:04 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their game with me ever they would try to push me at someway. This was where I said I thought it was NU.
I'm pretty sure people had to ask you for that. Either way I just think it's weird when someone says it's MvT but don't name the person and even when you did you didn't sound sure at all. You're a tin foil, you should be dead long before lylo anyway.
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On November 30 2016 01:42 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 01:37 mahrgell wrote:On November 30 2016 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 01:22 Shapelog wrote:Now I have to write a paper >_< On November 29 2016 22:42 mahrgell wrote:
Grmpf... now I went through all filters... And somehow got left disappointed. All the people I would like to know more about have not posted lately... And the other half of players just tries to expand their filter size without contributing anything. Guess I just vote for policy killing almost everyone!
Guess I write a summary anyway... Maybe this helps me to order my thoughts better. So what, how are you going to make this happen? How are going to fix it? On November 29 2016 23:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Something tells me there is a scum between NU and EC the tone between them don't seem exactly town on town. Call it a gut feeling nothing concrete about it. Don't think both would be mafia it doesn't feel like mafia on mafia talk especially since it not Shapelog bussing a teammate this early like he normally does (hint I think Shapelog is town this game). Can you explain this more if you can? It hard to explain but it a gut feeling on tone between EC and NU it doesn't feel town on town for some reason when they talked to each other. Uhm?? I can't follow that argument. How it the tone of a townie in TvT different from his tone in TvM? If you can't decide who is the M in this matchup, I'm not seeing how you come to the conclusion that this should be TvM. Or are you saying it is TvM or MvM? Tone of TvT feels more natural while TvM feels unnatural ie like something feels forced by one side. EC vs NU seems like TvM on tone. I will look into more later when I get on a computer because quoting posts is a pain in the assignment on mobile.
yep HF is spot on here.
This is 4 hours before the post he just quoted and a bit after his initial TvM claim.
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On December 02 2016 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
My lynch pool/order is:
Shape
Sl if shape is town, off list completely if mafia
Checkm8
Rels (confirmed town)
Onegu
Why can't shape and sl be mafia together?
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On December 02 2016 03:09 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 03:04 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their game with me ever they would try to push me at someway. This was where I said I thought it was NU. I'm pretty sure people had to ask you for that. Either way I just think it's weird when someone says it's MvT but don't name the person and even when you did you didn't sound sure at all. You're a tin foil, you should be dead long before lylo anyway.
Cant remember if anyone asked me on that.
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On December 02 2016 03:05 Tictock wrote:
@Darth I don't think you say "I'm town" a million times if you are trying to go down for your team.
It's a great way to go down for the team because it sounds on the surface like something a town might say EoD when they're on the block. But this and the rest of his EoD lacked any urgency. Saying I'm town 1400 times won't actually get anyone to switch their vote, but it artificially seems like you're trying to get people to switch their vote.
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On December 02 2016 03:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 03:09 Holyflare wrote:On December 02 2016 03:04 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I here now. Not much has happened. I do think if one of EC or NU was scum it would be NU because he seems a bit opportunistic at times for his push on people (on me and EC) yet at the same he trying to solve the game more than EC. Plus the hidden LS rule that tends to happen: If someone is playing their game with me ever they would try to push me at someway. This was where I said I thought it was NU. I'm pretty sure people had to ask you for that. Either way I just think it's weird when someone says it's MvT but don't name the person and even when you did you didn't sound sure at all. You're a tin foil, you should be dead long before lylo anyway. Cant remember if anyone asked me on that.
It was me, and I was so nice to bring up a reminder a few posts up.
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About why I was unsure who it was: they both looked bad at the time but I thought it was more likely NU than EC because of my points on NU in the quote I gave.
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Oh. I see.
Well. We will see what night brings.
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On December 02 2016 03:13 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
My lynch pool/order is:
Shape
Sl if shape is town, off list completely if mafia
Checkm8
Rels (confirmed town)
Onegu Why can't shape and sl be mafia together?
Just read more, I quoted a post.
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Koshi what your thoughts on my added points about Shapelog being scum?
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On December 02 2016 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Koshi what your thoughts on my added points about Shapelog being scum?
I can see it be true. I also want to lynch Shape over everybody else atm.
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On December 02 2016 03:07 mahrgell wrote:
@DF
And now to the general idea.
Pure feeling dictated me exactly this idea too. It was pretty much the idea with which I went into my diving session this morning. (then I got distracted by Rels -.-) It just... lead to nowhere.
If he was doing it for towncred, then whos towncred?
Emp? Yeah, he got a shit ton of towncred from it. But I really believe he is town :D
Koshi? Quite similar. Like I can see a lot of tinfoils involving Koshi. But I will let those rest for now.
SL? Did he even get towncred from it? lol. Like you make it sound like this was some great elaborate bussing play with NU taking one for the team. This does not fit SLs play at all. Like I'm really not sold on him, and given his contributions so far he is pretty much on the same level as HF and CM8 for me... But if that is the case, then it certainly isn't a great elaborate play but pure chaos.
Myself? I have great insider infos telling me that this isn't the case.
Or towncred via on of his spews? If this was the case... It may actually be worth looking at who pointed out which spew. Doing this and hoping that town finds thsoe spews sounds like an awful idea. But if it is really this, then you could find both scum at once here.
Well there are a few possibilities that I haven't worked through yet.
1. One of my stronger TRs is off (You, Koshi, EC)
2. Just because he tried, doesn't mean it worked. This could manifest itself in a couple potential ways
2a) sicklucker is the mafia partner and the town-cred strategy didn't work
2b) NU was either expecting or hoping one of his teammates would be back before EoD to pile on the train. This line of thought is with the three non-voters (Checkm8, Shapelog, LS). This could work with either LS or Shape, who both sort of gently committed to scum reading NU. We've discussed that there are problems with both Shapelog and LS's NU read: in the case of Shape, it was wishy washy to the max; in the case of LS, he only committed to NU > EC after direct questioning, no?
My point is, given that both of them had sowed some reason to scum read NU, it could be believable for them to come back near EoD, see only the one train on NU, and jump on board both having some meh reason for doing so
i.e. - well i'm not sold on this, but i've scum read him and no other trains are happening, so of course my vote makes sense! And now we learn that LS intended to be back before EoD but wasn't 
Perhaps i'm getting too tinfoily lol
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On December 02 2016 03:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Koshi what your thoughts on my added points about Shapelog being scum? I can see it be true. I also want to lynch Shape over everybody else atm.
Let's lynch him then as soon as the day comes!
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On December 02 2016 03:07 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 22:30 Shapelog wrote:
Urg. Not being able to play yesterday messed me up.
Got my busier schedule today. When I get time, i'll filter.
I thought of something about SL last night however. I'm not terribly sure about it yet, and honestly, the evidence to support it is very very very bad. But in a previous mafia game (can't remember the name), I fake claimed mafia early into the game (was town). Scum!SL jumped on it, and pushed the fact that I could (due to my "eccrtice" past) be doing that as mafia to look fearless. He used it also to justify tunneling me for the day phase.
Here, SL did not take that liberty. Instead, he just nodded and left it be, while trying to gain info (post about the discussion being bad between me and LS but townie) from what happens around it. He could of jumped on it if he was mafia (especially this time with my claim.) yet didn't.
I know it was one game, but he had a opportunity to push me for it and didn't take it. thoughts (even tho i won't be here in 10 mins :/)? This post is why sl and shape aren't likely a team
Lol, that is the same post I was talking about.
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