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On December 01 2016 08:27 darthfoley wrote:
1. have the cop check me
2. i come back as town
3. profit?!?!
OK considering there is a GF possibility this seems super genuine. Scum would be way more careful about saying stuff like that ?
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On December 01 2016 08:47 darthfoley wrote:Just checked Shapelog's filter and there very little analysis of NU. The most he gave was a neutral/slight scum read Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 02:32 Shapelog wrote:On November 30 2016 02:05 mahrgell wrote:
@shlog
Just noticed your vote is still on Onegu. But this was some jokevote iirc.
Seeing you asking a lot of questions (which I like), but if deadline was close now, who would you vote?
You called Koshi@TT not a bad case, so would you support that? Also saw some mistrust towards CM8 from you. Or would it be someone else? It was a joke vote. Tbh, no one is in the realm lynch with fire. I haven't really gone through everything how I want to yet. For example, I've read NU's posts in the last few pages, but haven't honestly updated my read yet (due to being at school) that I had before. Given what TT posted, I wouldn't mind lynching him. Like I said, Koshi shows some mafia mindset that he founded in TT's first few posts. Moreover, I think TT not wanting to be a part in the Onegu Vs Koshi fight is sus. as well. Also giving the fact that he was trying to scum read Koshi on matters about it (Koshi tryharding IIRC) is what I picture scum to be doing. So off the top of my head, he would be the first lynch. About CM8. CM8 really doesn't have a lot of stuff with content. I feel like he is playing the newbie card, and wanted him to stop doing so. Tone thing I saw sure. But I really don't have a lot to go off on him about. Hopeing my question gets info out of him. Maybe a policy lynch. SL is PL mostly bc I've seen him actually do stuff around this time. Rels is afk so also a PL. Rest are either town or i'm thinking of atm. To remind you of that read... Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 02:32 Shapelog wrote:On November 30 2016 02:05 mahrgell wrote:
@shlog
Just noticed your vote is still on Onegu. But this was some jokevote iirc.
Seeing you asking a lot of questions (which I like), but if deadline was close now, who would you vote?
You called Koshi@TT not a bad case, so would you support that? Also saw some mistrust towards CM8 from you. Or would it be someone else? It was a joke vote. Tbh, no one is in the realm lynch with fire. I haven't really gone through everything how I want to yet. For example, I've read NU's posts in the last few pages, but haven't honestly updated my read yet (due to being at school) that I had before. Given what TT posted, I wouldn't mind lynching him. Like I said, Koshi shows some mafia mindset that he founded in TT's first few posts. Moreover, I think TT not wanting to be a part in the Onegu Vs Koshi fight is sus. as well. Also giving the fact that he was trying to scum read Koshi on matters about it (Koshi tryharding IIRC) is what I picture scum to be doing. So off the top of my head, he would be the first lynch. About CM8. CM8 really doesn't have a lot of stuff with content. I feel like he is playing the newbie card, and wanted him to stop doing so. Tone thing I saw sure. But I really don't have a lot to go off on him about. Hopeing my question gets info out of him. Maybe a policy lynch. SL is PL mostly bc I've seen him actually do stuff around this time. Rels is afk so also a PL. Rest are either town or i'm thinking of atm. If that "read" doesn't give you 13 ways to wiggle out of committing to a read, I don't know what does. How many times do you have to say "this is scummy but it's also in his townie meta!" in one post before you get a finger wag?
On December 01 2016 08:54 Koshi wrote:Ok I read Shape his post. Hmm. Yeah he and Onegu can swap places on my list. Especially Shape his answer on EC his post was off. It didn't increase the pressure on NU at all, almost tries to take it away by talking about people that aren't NU. Which is odd seeing he starts the post with congratulating EC on making a post on NU. + Show Spoiler +On November 29 2016 13:37 Shapelog wrote:Oh my Canadian friend, you posted about the right thing. Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 12:57 emperorchampion wrote:On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.
Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons. Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced. Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt. Look at his entry: On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened. He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness. That looks forced. Flagged this post, I dun like it. 1) It looks like you're trying to make something out of nothing re: throwing something at LS. 2) It reads like you're smooshing two thoughts together, which makes me think that you had some conclusion in mind and are making the evidence fit that. Requires further investigation. I get 1, and I think we both came to that conclusion. Can you explain 2) a bit more? Personally, I can understand the point he made, and it didn't feel like he was painting in. Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 13:03 emperorchampion wrote:On November 29 2016 09:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 09:46 LightningStrike wrote:On February 28 2016 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys I here now I was busy and now I here what up? Bam this was me as scum doing that sort of thing Onegu did the quote you townread him for. Ehhhh, not quite the same vibe. Your quoted post's tone is what makes it fucking mafia. You're acting all nicey-nice with the "Hey guys" and "what up" and giving an excuse for why you weren't there with the busy part. Onegu's post is not that. I don't think mafia would have made this post this early cus they would profit from inactivity and do not care about it. Also, no, I have not read any of your games. Flagged this post as well. 1) Activity will happen whether or not mafia wants it to, therefore it's null imo. 2) LS doing this "Hey town read me for this thing you town read someone else for" reminds me of things that I've said when I'm scum. Suspicious! 1) He's talking about Onegu wanting more activity to happen and trying to cause more to happen. It was the "where is everyone" post. Personally opionons aside, do you think he could come to this conclusion based off his reasoning? 2) What do you make about my earlier post about LS tone?
On December 01 2016 08:55 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 13:31 Shapelog wrote:There really isn't a lot from his filter that made me feel either way (unsurprisingly, is early game after all). On November 29 2016 09:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.
Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons. Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced. How so? I recognize myself in his all-over-the-place posts, and he's the townierest dude itt. Also, this is a town post, mang On November 29 2016 08:23 Onegu wrote:
Where is everyone? On November 29 2016 09:34 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.
Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons. Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced. Your awesome bro LS is the one who looks like he has a knife stuck in the butt. Look at his entry: On November 29 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey first game since my ban which was like 5-6 months ago? Anyways Onegu's vote on EC seems pretty him joking around but outside of that nothing notable has happened. He felt the need to summarize the 10 posts that were made prior to him posting, and I can't think of another reason why he would precise that it is his first game in a while after the game started other than giving an excuse to his rustiness. That looks forced. Typically, I would say this post's tone is most likely coming from a scum than a townie. Mostly due to how close minded it is. And how it gives a very strong opinion in such a early part of the game (ex. That looks forced. at the end). Problem is, its NU. Tonally, he is capable of this as town. I still think he stressed out his point a bit given the time at which the post came out. But I am considering that it might just be his normal tone coming out here.Otherwise, his point is a valid one. On November 29 2016 09:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 09:46 LightningStrike wrote:On February 28 2016 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys I here now I was busy and now I here what up? Bam this was me as scum doing that sort of thing Onegu did the quote you townread him for. Ehhhh, not quite the same vibe. Your quoted post's tone is what makes it fucking mafia. You're acting all nicey-nice with the "Hey guys" and "what up" and giving an excuse for why you weren't there with the busy part. Onegu's post is not that. I don't think mafia would have made this post this early cus they would profit from inactivity and do not care about it. Also, no, I have not read any of your games. Here I kinda lose him. At first, I thought he founded tonal issues that I founded as well with LS. But in truth, he's talking about the excuse from LS about why he wasn't here. It is different from Onegu's post yes, that we can see clearly. But he is overstressing the "nicey nice" part of the excuse LS made (I use excuse as in why he wasn't here). Personally, nothing is wrong with that post from LS imo. Its just a "hey sorry was busy and now I am here" post made to reconnect to the thread. His reasoning on why Onegu post is different, and why he thinks it is townie is fine however.
Overall he has been overstressing things more than they should, which is more AI of a scum player than a town player. But, NU tone as town in previous games is like that. And while he did say he was trying to change his meta, tone and writing style is harder to change than just what you post. He's null/light scum read, but once he posts more content posts (along with everyone else), I will relook. If that "read" doesn't give you 13 ways to wiggle out of committing to a read, I don't know what does. How many times do you have to say "this is scummy but it's also in his townie meta!" in one post before you get a finger wag? There are so many contradictions and outs he gives himself. Given the amount of times he claims something to be in his town meta, he doesn't earn his final read of null/slight scum ^EBWOP^
I really like those posts on Shape. This NU scumread is super long and weak at the same time.
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On November 29 2016 09:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.
Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons. Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced. How so? I recognize myself in his all-over-the-place posts, and he's the townierest dude itt. Also, this is a town post, mang
Koshi was this the spew you called weak ? I think it makes Onegu super super likely town
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CM8 There is nothing to say about this guy. Newb carding, completely noncommittal, way to shy, MIA. All that makes him Null, but also not useful for town at all. If there is a lack of targets for the lynch, he can clearly be killed. Has to step up massively.
Shlog Rereading his filter, I can understand all the stuff brought against him so far. One thing I noticed is him pointing out LS though, which fits with NU initially targeting LS. Not sure if this is coincidence or coordinated smear.
I somehow wish I would have read his filter without reading the cases here though. Well... vote is far away, for now he is scummy, but I wanna read it with a fresh mind during D2 again. And maybe there is more to read then.
LS Interaction with NU makes him my #2 town behind emp. Luckily it will never get to a lylo with my, LS and Emp so I don't have to choose one! But hey, connfirming yourself town (or being confirmed) is nice, but not the goal of the game!  Could you join the work please?
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On December 01 2016 21:23 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 09:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.
Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons. Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced. How so? I recognize myself in his all-over-the-place posts, and he's the townierest dude itt. Also, this is a town post, mang On November 29 2016 08:23 Onegu wrote:
Where is everyone? Koshi was this the spew you called weak ? I think it makes Onegu super super likely town
Let me live in my world in which I can lynch Onegu.
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NU is a spew robot LOL. This game is over
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Uhm... I need a break... Back later... HF, Onegu, DF, TT left to do ^.^
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On December 01 2016 21:45 Rels wrote:
NU is a spew robot LOL. This game is over
Uhm, what I get from him or kinda townspews. But I still lack the scumspews. So who are your two topscums right now? Shlog and?
You said it is not really SL's meta to bus, so who else? One of the inactives? TT? CM8?
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last time sl bussed somebody unnecessarily it was because that person attacked him. I would look up the game but it was too long ago.
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On December 01 2016 21:48 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2016 21:45 Rels wrote:
NU is a spew robot LOL. This game is over Uhm, what I get from him or kinda townspews. But I still lack the scumspews. So who are your two topscums right now? Shlog and? You said it is not really SL's meta to bus, so who else? One of the inactives? TT? CM8?
That's a gross misrepresentation by the way. I've seen SL bus plenty of times. He was mafia with me and bussed, he was mafia with palmar in a star wars game and even shot his own player.
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I think him and jat bus each other too in relation to what koshi is saying because they got annoyed with each other.
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I don't know if he's mafia this game though. He seems pretty upfront whenever I see him talk. Not read him yet though.
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On December 01 2016 18:17 Holyflare wrote:
LS when you get back can you give me a brief rundown of why you thought there was definitely mafia between NU and someone else?
On November 29 2016 23:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Something tells me there is a scum between NU and EC the tone between them don't seem exactly town on town. Call it a gut feeling nothing concrete about it. Don't think both would be mafia it doesn't feel like mafia on mafia talk especially since it not Shapelog bussing a teammate this early like he normally does (hint I think Shapelog is town this game).
Mainly I felt the tone was unnatural between each other IE Thought there was 1 mafia between the two in NU vs EC due that plus a gut feeling on it.
TLDR:
Felt something was off on tone at the time with some gut feelings about it too.
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On December 01 2016 22:21 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2016 18:17 Holyflare wrote:
LS when you get back can you give me a brief rundown of why you thought there was definitely mafia between NU and someone else? Show nested quote +On November 29 2016 23:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Something tells me there is a scum between NU and EC the tone between them don't seem exactly town on town. Call it a gut feeling nothing concrete about it. Don't think both would be mafia it doesn't feel like mafia on mafia talk especially since it not Shapelog bussing a teammate this early like he normally does (hint I think Shapelog is town this game). Mainly I felt the tone was unnatural between each other IE Thought there was 1 mafia between the two in NU vs EC due that plus a gut feeling on it. TLDR: Felt something was off on tone at the time with some gut feelings about it too.
Can you elaborate more? Link posts?
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Also Sicklucker had shown he can bus a teammate if needed i nthe past.
He bussed his partner HTS in Void here was his filter there granted it was a while ago:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475749-the-void-mafia?user=sicklucker
Also now I just remembered who rolled mafia like 10 times in a row or something like that and I think Koshi played with him.
Chairman Ray the guy who rolled mafia the most in a row on this site. Found this while looking at past games of sicklucker and checked the post of one of the games.
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On December 01 2016 22:26 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2016 22:21 LightningStrike wrote:On December 01 2016 18:17 Holyflare wrote:
LS when you get back can you give me a brief rundown of why you thought there was definitely mafia between NU and someone else? On November 29 2016 23:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Something tells me there is a scum between NU and EC the tone between them don't seem exactly town on town. Call it a gut feeling nothing concrete about it. Don't think both would be mafia it doesn't feel like mafia on mafia talk especially since it not Shapelog bussing a teammate this early like he normally does (hint I think Shapelog is town this game). Mainly I felt the tone was unnatural between each other IE Thought there was 1 mafia between the two in NU vs EC due that plus a gut feeling on it. TLDR: Felt something was off on tone at the time with some gut feelings about it too. Can you elaborate more? Link posts?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/515094-a-mini-with-funny-gifs?page=29#570
This part with my earlier quote why I thought it was TvM. Mainly tone was off I felt at the time plus some gut feeling about it. Maybe I should trust my gut feelings and tone stuff more and become Tina?
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I like how the initial explanation, the tldr and the further elaboration are all the exact same sentence.
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On December 01 2016 22:28 LightningStrike wrote:Also Sicklucker had shown he can bus a teammate if needed i nthe past. He bussed his partner HTS in Void here was his filter there granted it was a while ago: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475749-the-void-mafia?user=sickluckerAlso now I just remembered who rolled mafia like 10 times in a row or something like that and I think Koshi played with him. Chairman Ray the guy who rolled mafia the most in a row on this site. Found this while looking at past games of sicklucker and checked the post of one of the games.
How representative is that game? It doesn't even feel like I'm reading the same player -.-
Or: how representative is this game here from him? Has he ever slacked this hard? As town or scum?
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