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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 30 2016 20:49 GMT
#1001
I hate your last sentence in this post. Everything is false. I read the game and contributed in ~1 hour way more than you at that point. I pushed the game forward the game while I was there
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 30 2016 20:51 GMT
#1002
On November 30 2016 20:47 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 20:25 Koshi wrote:
Yes. It really depends on how Rels continues. If he stays this inactive he is mafia. I already got completely outplayed by scum!Rels once and I know this is well within his range. Town!Rels will shine through over time. Far from there yet.
My mistake.

With Onegu vouching this hard on HF, and sicklucker basically doing the same I have to put HF quite low on the lynchlist. It's not that his posts are so incredibly bad. Rels, df and I put pressure in him. 2 people defended him hard, he said things, it's good enough for now.



Progression is being made.
13. NeverUnlucky
12. Tictock
4. Onegu
11. sicklucker
1. Rels
3. Shapelog
2. Holyflare
6. darthfoley
10. emperorchampion
8. Checkm8
9. mahrgell
5. LightningStrike


Sicklucker, Rels are both high because I expect things from them. Put EC a bit higher out of respect of other people their reads. But if TT/NU are mafia he is kinda confirmed town and I am living in that world.


why? I dont expect things from rels and I certainly dont expect much from myself. honestly rels is as terrible of a day 1 player as me.

p: don't let people know
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 30 2016 20:54 GMT
#1003
On December 01 2016 05:48 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 19:53 Holyflare wrote:
On November 30 2016 19:45 Koshi wrote:
HF do you think Rels is possible mafia?


All I know about rels is that he posted about Marcel and said that he/she was completely different to last game, complained about margarine's approach to the game being wildly different and bad and then voted me for pressuring his read.

Margaret doesn't even appear in his scum list at the end of it.

I think his read through was bad and achieved nothing, said nothing of note and then he left. He could very well be mafia.

Yeah I was suspecting him while catching up, then I read some good posts of him and when I was done catching up I didn't think he was scum anymore.


On December 01 2016 05:48 Rels wrote:
And it actually points at me being town more than scum. As scum I don't change my reads for no reason and I push weaker players


WTF
I just wanted to sit back and watch chess and preventing a mafia burnout.
but what is that?

Why on earth this urge to point out his own previous clearly makes him town. o.O
Gosh, this feels almost too bad to be a scumslip for me. But seriously. WTF?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
November 30 2016 20:55 GMT
#1004
On December 01 2016 05:48 Rels wrote:
And it actually points at me being town more than scum. As scum I don't change my reads for no reason and I push weaker players


Last game you kept pressure on me for much of the game and i'm a weaker player and you were town
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 30 2016 20:57 GMT
#1005
rip calm chess evening... Filter diving Rels.
5 minutes ago I was sure I would not change my vote. This is gone. There may be nothing. But at least I'm open for more opinions on Rels and can see myself voting for him if I find more stuff...
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
November 30 2016 20:57 GMT
#1006
On December 01 2016 05:48 mahrgell wrote:
Also quick thought on this activity nightmare:
If it was nobody posting, but everyone parking his vote, I would usually be inclined to feel like it is scum who are just happy about a coming ml and let the game die out.
This game is different. It is actually people not voting. Idk if they are simply not online and really set an alarm for minutes before deadline... Or if they are lurking and waiting. Chances are theres some lurkers amongst those. And this feels more like scum waiting if any non-NU train is realizing, then quickly jumping in, voting it, saving a mate, and later play the "I was not able to to fully read everything and had to gut feel vote, sorry, went wrong"


Yeah it's making me nervous, but I don't really see anything else at the moment. I've never seen a town with 5 votes not cast 1hr before deadline. Tons of people with shenanigans and last minute vote switch, yeah, but not this. If NU is not maf town is in a terrible place, and I'll feel bad cause I thought we had a good town so far
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 30 2016 20:57 GMT
#1007
On December 01 2016 05:54 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 05:48 Rels wrote:
On November 30 2016 19:53 Holyflare wrote:
On November 30 2016 19:45 Koshi wrote:
HF do you think Rels is possible mafia?


All I know about rels is that he posted about Marcel and said that he/she was completely different to last game, complained about margarine's approach to the game being wildly different and bad and then voted me for pressuring his read.

Margaret doesn't even appear in his scum list at the end of it.

I think his read through was bad and achieved nothing, said nothing of note and then he left. He could very well be mafia.

Yeah I was suspecting him while catching up, then I read some good posts of him and when I was done catching up I didn't think he was scum anymore.


Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 05:48 Rels wrote:
And it actually points at me being town more than scum. As scum I don't change my reads for no reason and I push weaker players


WTF
I just wanted to sit back and watch chess and preventing a mafia burnout.
but what is that?

Why on earth this urge to point out his own previous clearly makes him town. o.O
Gosh, this feels almost too bad to be a scumslip for me. But seriously. WTF?

Cause I thought about it.
On December 01 2016 05:55 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 05:48 Rels wrote:
And it actually points at me being town more than scum. As scum I don't change my reads for no reason and I push weaker players


Last game you kept pressure on me for much of the game and i'm a weaker player and you were town

True, but I'm talking about the other way around
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 30 2016 20:58 GMT
#1008
On December 01 2016 05:49 Rels wrote:
I hate your last sentence in this post. Everything is false. I read the game and contributed in ~1 hour way more than you at that point. I pushed the game forward the game while I was there


You pushed nothing forward. Your post about me was bull shit and you were not transparent about this Marzipan thing at all.

You didn't really do much apart from backtrack on stuff. Please point out which posts of margarita you liked that made you change your mind.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
November 30 2016 20:58 GMT
#1009
Wait, Rels are you actually caught up in this game right now?
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
November 30 2016 21:00 GMT
#1010
On December 01 2016 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 05:49 Rels wrote:
I hate your last sentence in this post. Everything is false. I read the game and contributed in ~1 hour way more than you at that point. I pushed the game forward the game while I was there


You pushed nothing forward. Your post about me was bull shit and you were not transparent about this Marzipan thing at all.

You didn't really do much apart from backtrack on stuff. Please point out which posts of margarita you liked that made you change your mind.


You haven't voted. Who are you voting for?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 30 2016 21:01 GMT
#1011
On December 01 2016 06:00 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
On December 01 2016 05:49 Rels wrote:
I hate your last sentence in this post. Everything is false. I read the game and contributed in ~1 hour way more than you at that point. I pushed the game forward the game while I was there


You pushed nothing forward. Your post about me was bull shit and you were not transparent about this Marzipan thing at all.

You didn't really do much apart from backtrack on stuff. Please point out which posts of margarita you liked that made you change your mind.


You haven't voted. Who are you voting for?


You just wrote who I'm voting for, nobody.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 30 2016 21:01 GMT
#1012
On December 01 2016 05:57 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 05:54 mahrgell wrote:
On December 01 2016 05:48 Rels wrote:
On November 30 2016 19:53 Holyflare wrote:
On November 30 2016 19:45 Koshi wrote:
HF do you think Rels is possible mafia?


All I know about rels is that he posted about Marcel and said that he/she was completely different to last game, complained about margarine's approach to the game being wildly different and bad and then voted me for pressuring his read.

Margaret doesn't even appear in his scum list at the end of it.

I think his read through was bad and achieved nothing, said nothing of note and then he left. He could very well be mafia.

Yeah I was suspecting him while catching up, then I read some good posts of him and when I was done catching up I didn't think he was scum anymore.


On December 01 2016 05:48 Rels wrote:
And it actually points at me being town more than scum. As scum I don't change my reads for no reason and I push weaker players


WTF
I just wanted to sit back and watch chess and preventing a mafia burnout.
but what is that?

Why on earth this urge to point out his own previous clearly makes him town. o.O
Gosh, this feels almost too bad to be a scumslip for me. But seriously. WTF?

Cause I thought about it.


You thought about what? I can't follow. You made your post about me, and then thought about it, and suddenly had this feeling "uhhhh... my thoughts are clearly towny, I should tell the world so they see this too"
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 30 2016 21:02 GMT
#1013
On December 01 2016 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 05:49 Rels wrote:
I hate your last sentence in this post. Everything is false. I read the game and contributed in ~1 hour way more than you at that point. I pushed the game forward the game while I was there


You pushed nothing forward. Your post about me was bull shit and you were not transparent about this Marzipan thing at all.

You didn't really do much apart from backtrack on stuff. Please point out which posts of margarita you liked that made you change your mind.

He had a big post with thoughts on everyone that was super logical
On December 01 2016 05:58 emperorchampion wrote:
Wait, Rels are you actually caught up in this game right now?

Nope!
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
November 30 2016 21:02 GMT
#1014
On December 01 2016 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 06:00 darthfoley wrote:
On December 01 2016 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
On December 01 2016 05:49 Rels wrote:
I hate your last sentence in this post. Everything is false. I read the game and contributed in ~1 hour way more than you at that point. I pushed the game forward the game while I was there


You pushed nothing forward. Your post about me was bull shit and you were not transparent about this Marzipan thing at all.

You didn't really do much apart from backtrack on stuff. Please point out which posts of margarita you liked that made you change your mind.


You haven't voted. Who are you voting for?


You just wrote who I'm voting for, nobody.


[image loading]




This game you want to be part of town because town will be awesome.
This game town will not slack. You will not slack because you are town.
This game will be the game that demotivates every mafia team in 2017.


HF get on board and do something.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 30 2016 21:02 GMT
#1015
On December 01 2016 06:01 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 05:57 Rels wrote:
On December 01 2016 05:54 mahrgell wrote:
On December 01 2016 05:48 Rels wrote:
On November 30 2016 19:53 Holyflare wrote:
On November 30 2016 19:45 Koshi wrote:
HF do you think Rels is possible mafia?


All I know about rels is that he posted about Marcel and said that he/she was completely different to last game, complained about margarine's approach to the game being wildly different and bad and then voted me for pressuring his read.

Margaret doesn't even appear in his scum list at the end of it.

I think his read through was bad and achieved nothing, said nothing of note and then he left. He could very well be mafia.

Yeah I was suspecting him while catching up, then I read some good posts of him and when I was done catching up I didn't think he was scum anymore.


On December 01 2016 05:48 Rels wrote:
And it actually points at me being town more than scum. As scum I don't change my reads for no reason and I push weaker players


WTF
I just wanted to sit back and watch chess and preventing a mafia burnout.
but what is that?

Why on earth this urge to point out his own previous clearly makes him town. o.O
Gosh, this feels almost too bad to be a scumslip for me. But seriously. WTF?

Cause I thought about it.


You thought about what? I can't follow. You made your post about me, and then thought about it, and suddenly had this feeling "uhhhh... my thoughts are clearly towny, I should tell the world so they see this too"

HF said that me changing my mind about you was scummy
I explained what happened in my head
Then I pointed out I don't do that as scum
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 30 2016 21:04 GMT
#1016
On December 01 2016 06:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 06:01 Holyflare wrote:
On December 01 2016 06:00 darthfoley wrote:
On December 01 2016 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
On December 01 2016 05:49 Rels wrote:
I hate your last sentence in this post. Everything is false. I read the game and contributed in ~1 hour way more than you at that point. I pushed the game forward the game while I was there


You pushed nothing forward. Your post about me was bull shit and you were not transparent about this Marzipan thing at all.

You didn't really do much apart from backtrack on stuff. Please point out which posts of margarita you liked that made you change your mind.


You haven't voted. Who are you voting for?


You just wrote who I'm voting for, nobody.


[image loading]




This game you want to be part of town because town will be awesome.
This game town will not slack. You will not slack because you are town.
This game will be the game that demotivates every mafia team in 2017.


HF get on board and do something.

EC seems to be a pretty cool guy.
I had a good night of sleep.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
November 30 2016 21:06 GMT
#1017
Not voting (5): Holyflare, Shapelog, LightningStrike, Checkm8

That's only four names btw @ host. Would be shocked if all four were town.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 30 2016 21:07 GMT
#1018
Okay... also went through Rels filter again, trying to figure out why I had him on town before.

Summary is basically:
- His drop of suspicion on me felt weird.
- his weird progression of "this is good" -"is it?" - "no it isnt" is very townish

Uhm... yeah. I don't know, I suddenly feel like I would need more time to properly analyze his "cases" and points though. From memory I always felt like they were entirely in the realm of a townish thinking but many people have casted doubt on him.

What is everyone elses thought on Rels?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 30 2016 21:07 GMT
#1019
On December 01 2016 06:07 mahrgell wrote:
Okay... also went through Rels filter again, trying to figure out why I had him on town before.

Summary is basically:
- His drop of suspicion on me felt weird.
- his weird progression of "this is good" -"is it?" - "no it isnt" is very townish

Uhm... yeah. I don't know, I suddenly feel like I would need more time to properly analyze his "cases" and points though. From memory I always felt like they were entirely in the realm of a townish thinking but many people have casted doubt on him.

What is everyone elses thought on Rels?

He is on spot 2.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 30 2016 21:09 GMT
#1020
On December 01 2016 06:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 06:01 mahrgell wrote:
On December 01 2016 05:57 Rels wrote:
On December 01 2016 05:54 mahrgell wrote:
On December 01 2016 05:48 Rels wrote:
On November 30 2016 19:53 Holyflare wrote:
On November 30 2016 19:45 Koshi wrote:
HF do you think Rels is possible mafia?


All I know about rels is that he posted about Marcel and said that he/she was completely different to last game, complained about margarine's approach to the game being wildly different and bad and then voted me for pressuring his read.

Margaret doesn't even appear in his scum list at the end of it.

I think his read through was bad and achieved nothing, said nothing of note and then he left. He could very well be mafia.

Yeah I was suspecting him while catching up, then I read some good posts of him and when I was done catching up I didn't think he was scum anymore.


On December 01 2016 05:48 Rels wrote:
And it actually points at me being town more than scum. As scum I don't change my reads for no reason and I push weaker players


WTF
I just wanted to sit back and watch chess and preventing a mafia burnout.
but what is that?

Why on earth this urge to point out his own previous clearly makes him town. o.O
Gosh, this feels almost too bad to be a scumslip for me. But seriously. WTF?

Cause I thought about it.


You thought about what? I can't follow. You made your post about me, and then thought about it, and suddenly had this feeling "uhhhh... my thoughts are clearly towny, I should tell the world so they see this too"

HF said that me changing my mind about you was scummy
I explained what happened in my head
Then I pointed out I don't do that as scum


I never said these things in the slightest. Not once did you say you changed your mind. In fact that's bull shit.




On December 01 2016 06:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
On December 01 2016 05:49 Rels wrote:
I hate your last sentence in this post. Everything is false. I read the game and contributed in ~1 hour way more than you at that point. I pushed the game forward the game while I was there


You pushed nothing forward. Your post about me was bull shit and you were not transparent about this Marzipan thing at all.

You didn't really do much apart from backtrack on stuff. Please point out which posts of margarita you liked that made you change your mind.

He had a big post with thoughts on everyone that was super logical
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 05:58 emperorchampion wrote:
Wait, Rels are you actually caught up in this game right now?

Nope!


On November 30 2016 07:17 Rels wrote:
OK I'm caught up.

I think LS Koshi and DF are town.
I think I wanna lynch one of HF TT Onegu and SL.

Rest are null.



So unbelievably full of shit. This is so bad rels. You don't town read margarita. You say nothing about him. Your read doesn't look like it has changed at all on him. Suddenly you return near deadline to misconstrue everything into me saying things I never said. Suddenly his massive logical post where you clearly town read him appears.

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