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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 00:46 GMT
#291
On February 28 2016 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys I here now I was busy and now I here what up?

Bam this was me as scum doing that sort of thing Onegu did the quote you townread him for.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 00:49 GMT
#293
On November 29 2016 09:47 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 09:46 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 28 2016 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys I here now I was busy and now I here what up?

Bam this was me as scum doing that sort of thing Onegu did the quote you townread him for.



No where near the same thing LS I said hey where is everyone you said Hi Im here now....

Context of the post: at the time there wasn't posting in the thread except OWS except 5 mins before that post.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:05 GMT
#316
On November 29 2016 09:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 09:46 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 28 2016 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys I here now I was busy and now I here what up?

Bam this was me as scum doing that sort of thing Onegu did the quote you townread him for.

Ehhhh, not quite the same vibe.

Your quoted post's tone is what makes it fucking mafia. You're acting all nicey-nice with the "Hey guys" and "what up" and giving an excuse for why you weren't there with the busy part. Onegu's post is not that. I don't think mafia would have made this post this early cus they would profit from inactivity and do not care about it.

Also, no, I have not read any of your games.

All scum games:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike Goon Lynched D3 First Ever scum game
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike Goon Survived N3 (won)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike Goon Lynched D2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?user=LightningStrike Witch Hunter Lynched D1
Some Town games:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=LightningStrike Cop Survived D4
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?user=LightningStrike VT Survived D4
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=LightningStrike Pope killed N3
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509751-names-are-hard-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike Wandering Townie Killed N5
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/507600-cap-tortoise-mafia?user=LightningStrike VT Killed N2 Best game for me.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:07 GMT
#319
On November 29 2016 10:01 Tictock wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:50 mahrgell wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:35 Tictock wrote:
I kinda feel like you are tryharding yourself there Koshi, trying real hard to find reasons to call Onegu mafia.


While I agree with you, that Koshi feels tryharding here on Onegu, I must say this and his general tone still gives me a minor townlean on Koshi for now. Simply because he is tryharding and motivated. And with his history of scumrolling and what I recall from reading Dota2, he was way less motivated there and more stabby.


I was moreso pointing out the hypocrasy in his calling Onegu tryhard yet being fairly tryhard himself than calling Koshi scum.

But you are not wrong. Scum!koshi would prob have a rough time keeping it up 5 games in a row.

Unless...

[image loading]

OMG this made me laugh my ass off.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:09 GMT
#321
On November 29 2016 10:05 LightningStrike wrote:
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On November 29 2016 09:54 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 29 2016 09:46 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 28 2016 03:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys I here now I was busy and now I here what up?

Bam this was me as scum doing that sort of thing Onegu did the quote you townread him for.

Ehhhh, not quite the same vibe.

Your quoted post's tone is what makes it fucking mafia. You're acting all nicey-nice with the "Hey guys" and "what up" and giving an excuse for why you weren't there with the busy part. Onegu's post is not that. I don't think mafia would have made this post this early cus they would profit from inactivity and do not care about it.

Also, no, I have not read any of your games.

All scum games:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike Goon Lynched D3 First Ever scum game
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike Goon Survived N3 (won)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike Goon Lynched D2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?user=LightningStrike Witch Hunter Lynched D1
Some Town games:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=LightningStrike Cop Survived D4
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?user=LightningStrike VT Survived D4
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=LightningStrike Pope killed N3
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509751-names-are-hard-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike Wandering Townie Killed N5
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/507600-cap-tortoise-mafia?user=LightningStrike VT Killed N2 Best game for me.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503886-who-wants-to-be-a-millionaire-cell-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike Forgot this was my best scum game.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:11 GMT
#323
On November 29 2016 10:07 darthfoley wrote:
Howdy y'all

I decree that no one is allowed to town read LS for random shit capslock posts. Throwback to the cell mafia game; still a little salty about that.

slight town lead on NU/Koshi/mahrgell. I agreed with NU's point on LS in that it seemed a bit forced; don't understand the need to clarify when you last played. Koshi's intro play seems standard town and similar to the one game I've played with him. mahrgell's entrance reminds me of his town play last game.

Don't like emperor so far. Filter complete shite, though it's pretty early game. Same for siclucker; reminds me a bit of his cell mafia play early on iirc. I generally don't like trolly playstyles, so not sure what to make of Onegu so far. At least he's active.

I sorry that Damdred told me break that meta man I felt so guilty honestly and still a bit lost on trying to find a new town style. I am town this game so no need to worry I will carry us. Also since you are here what other thoughts you got?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:12 GMT
#325
On November 29 2016 10:09 darthfoley wrote:
Also don't get great vibes from LS. Seems like he's a bit too ready to defend with previous games links and scum entrances-- like stemming the criticism before it gets too much attention. On the other hand, it's useful for meta purposes... though he's proven to be able to break meta analysis before as mafia.

Yeah like I so can without Damdred.... Damdred told me to break that meta he said it was a dumb meta that I had made and he wanted me to become a better player.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:15 GMT
#326
On November 29 2016 10:11 darthfoley wrote:
Idk maybe i'm just lazy but other people can look my games up if they're that concerned with my meta. I wouldn't feel the need to be defensive yet helpful as scum. The double bluff?!

I try to make it easier for the newer people since they never played with me and I usually am scumread by newer players which I trying to fix. Also side note I do think Koshi is town since you guys mentioned the fact he rolled scum 4 times in a row prior to this game like I can't imagine Koshi tryhard as scum unless they were that one player who kept rolling scum like 10 games or so in a row. Also townie vibes from you but I obviously know you are wrong on me but that's okay yo umight have a sevre case of paranoia.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:22 GMT
#329
On November 29 2016 10:17 mahrgell wrote:
Well LS...
Instead of linking all those great threads...

What is your approach to helping town this game?

So far you have:
- defended yourself against I dont know what
- said Hi to everybody few times

Both is nothing bad, but as I feel not much motivation to read all your linked games, and meta changes anyway... Just share the "town meta" you wanna apply this game.

A. I almost always in the defensive early as town if people start questioning my alignment that is not Onegu.
B. As scum I almost always never defend myself this hard unless Damdred was in my team(See Cell for the Damdred portion and my Witch Hunter game)
C. Normally I do get a mega push going by Day 2 as town. As scum I don't do mega pushes but more soft pushes. You can see this in my more recent games.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:23 GMT
#330
Speaking of which yes I know I haven't got a push rolling but I waiting on more people showing up. Mainly HF and Rels I don't want to lose to them again.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:28 GMT
#334
On November 29 2016 10:25 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 10:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 29 2016 10:07 darthfoley wrote:
Howdy y'all

I decree that no one is allowed to town read LS for random shit capslock posts. Throwback to the cell mafia game; still a little salty about that.

slight town lead on NU/Koshi/mahrgell. I agreed with NU's point on LS in that it seemed a bit forced; don't understand the need to clarify when you last played. Koshi's intro play seems standard town and similar to the one game I've played with him. mahrgell's entrance reminds me of his town play last game.

Don't like emperor so far. Filter complete shite, though it's pretty early game. Same for siclucker; reminds me a bit of his cell mafia play early on iirc. I generally don't like trolly playstyles, so not sure what to make of Onegu so far. At least he's active.

I sorry that Damdred told me break that meta man I felt so guilty honestly and still a bit lost on trying to find a new town style. I am town this game so no need to worry I will carry us. Also since you are here what other thoughts you got?


Think I've provided plenty of thoughts and you artificially asking me for more at this point in the game is odd.

What are your condensed thoughts so far?

You and Koshi pretty much town already
Mahrgell seems fine wouldn't lynch atm unless someone cases him.
Onegu null he havne't really impressed me yet.
EC is null he been jokier than normal maybe? I haven't played with him in forever so my memory is kidna buzzy :\
NeverUnlucky seems town he trying to push me unless he pulling a classic scum push on me that most first time playing with me as scum would do.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:31 GMT
#337
Also I do agree with NeverLucky about TT. Last time I remember him doing that was perhaps the game when he was scum in Storm Mafia 3 where he didn't really do shit period. He needs to step it up if he's town but if he's scum and continues to do nothing will lynch him.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:32 GMT
#339
On November 29 2016 10:30 darthfoley wrote:
No one is worse than null*

Well for one thing a quarter of the people haven't posted yet so there is still a good chunk of players to enter.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:35 GMT
#340
On November 29 2016 10:32 mahrgell wrote:
Was trying to remember who else posted and wasn't really noticed...

emps filter is trash, even for D1 standards.
Hello here, hello there, spammy link, spammy video, apologizes for not being there before (was walking home), still not being there after his apology, except for another jokepost.
And then followed his 2 most "investigative" posts:

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On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.


Indeed, colour me as interested in those reasons!

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.


wooo koshi going for easy bro points

When those are your best posts (and you again have no followup at all) you are probably not doing enough to help town.

Alright. Any other thoughts you care to share?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:41 GMT
#343
On November 29 2016 10:37 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 10:22 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 29 2016 10:17 mahrgell wrote:
Well LS...
Instead of linking all those great threads...

What is your approach to helping town this game?

So far you have:
- defended yourself against I dont know what
- said Hi to everybody few times

Both is nothing bad, but as I feel not much motivation to read all your linked games, and meta changes anyway... Just share the "town meta" you wanna apply this game.

A. I almost always in the defensive early as town if people start questioning my alignment that is not Onegu.
B. As scum I almost always never defend myself this hard unless Damdred was in my team(See Cell for the Damdred portion and my Witch Hunter game)
C. Normally I do get a mega push going by Day 2 as town. As scum I don't do mega pushes but more soft pushes. You can see this in my more recent games.


How do you get to that mega push? (this is a mix of question to learn for myself and a mix of metaquestion about you ^^)

Also no need in telling your scummeta, this is pointless anyway.

I just push a target non-stop after locking a aim until either I get out of a bad tunnel(See Tortoise) or I had lynched them. Usually the later happens more or less.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:43 GMT
#345
On November 29 2016 10:40 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 10:35 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 29 2016 10:32 mahrgell wrote:
Was trying to remember who else posted and wasn't really noticed...

emps filter is trash, even for D1 standards.
Hello here, hello there, spammy link, spammy video, apologizes for not being there before (was walking home), still not being there after his apology, except for another jokepost.
And then followed his 2 most "investigative" posts:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.


Indeed, colour me as interested in those reasons!

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 29 2016 08:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 08:53 Koshi wrote:
On November 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote:
Meh reading didn't give me much.

Town lean on Onegu, mild scum lean on Emp. Neither for very good reasons.

Why a townlean on Onegu? He feels superforced.


wooo koshi going for easy bro points

When those are your best posts (and you again have no followup at all) you are probably not doing enough to help town.

Alright. Any other thoughts you care to share?


I share as it comes to mind ^.^ But I think I covered my initial thoughts about almost everyone who posted.

Well I guess I ignored TT and LS, but neither really have enough posts to warrant any analysis.

Okay.I just thought you had more that's all.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:44 GMT
#346
On November 29 2016 10:42 mahrgell wrote:
Hmmm... also I would be not unhappy about feedback on the readability of my own posts...

After I quickly established myself as wot thrower in newbie mafia, this time I'm trying to keep stuff shorter, just pointing things out with less explanations... Not sure this is better though. Then again not sure who read my stuff last game :D

I might just check that game. Care to link please?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:45 GMT
#348
Nvm I found it will read your filter there and look at timing a little bit.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:46 GMT
#349
rolf you just linked while I typing that I found it lol.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
November 29 2016 01:51 GMT
#351
Okay you seem like town by meta. I so see similar thought patterns in your play here and there.
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