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On December 13 2016 00:26 Holyflare wrote: No it doesn't but it's weird regardless. Problem is I could easily see you being mafia as well as df. Was it df who was trying to set up a different day 1 lynch? No, I was wary of the one train lynch because of reasons you accepted and thought reasonable earlier in the game | ||
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On December 13 2016 00:33 Holyflare wrote: Onegu also calls out nu day 1 and df likes the post but hasn't really used it in regards to onegu at all this cycle/last. In fact has said almost nothing about onegu other than a narrative and that he hasn't mentioned sl. Idk what your second sentence is supposed to mean. Yea I've spent most of today butting heads with you. I'm giving onegu attention now because tunneling in the final 4 is bad usually. I'm going to use WIFOM like you and onegu-- why would you still be my primary lynch if I were mafia? You clearly aren't the "easy" mislynch at this point. Also don't like how onegu's been in the thread but hasn't responded to my post at all. Not even an OMGUS | ||
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On December 13 2016 00:42 Onegu wrote: HF defended me well enough. Nice | ||
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On December 12 2016 20:19 Holyflare wrote: I think there are fundamental flaws in your philosophy with what mafia do. Mafia have perfect information and quite a lot like to give out that perfect information in the form of reads that don't quite make sense in comparison to what you're seeing and what confirmed dead townies have said but makes sense when they know that player's alignment. So, when Koshi says something like Onegu is try harding (but is ok for now) it's an imperfect read. However, if SL gives A LOT of reasoning for someone being town that isn't really what we're looking at in this game and pushes that point it is most likely him displaying his tmi, like the jk situation. That is why I've taken it to mean Onegu is towny so much. It's hard to make up stuff to that degree as mafia. Furthermore, if a mafia player is bussing their partner but then is given stuff to stop bussing their partner they should be willingly taking it. That is why I have great pause with you DF. SL kept you as a scum read even when presented with information that made you not mafia. He only backed down based on barely any information. A suspicious progression if I've seen one. Really want clarification for these sentences. What info was presented to SL that "made me not mafia?" Who presented this information? You're saying mafia who're bussing you willingly take outs to NOT bus, then say that when presented with these opportunities, SL did not take them. Conclusion: I'm mafia. Wtf is this logic? | ||
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On December 13 2016 00:44 Holyflare wrote: Because I'm the popular vote and aren't doing anything. Either way, the second sentence is in reference to a post Onegu made day 1 calling out NU. At no point have you referenced this post when reading onegu or making your onegu narrative. In your narrative you solely pick on onegu's reaction to sl (when onegu hasn't even really been playing those days). At no time do you bring up onegu's post on nu in favour of onegu. Instead you mention that onegu has no posts of content at all. You liked his content post calling out nu on day 1. Why haven't you mentioned it? Because I spent almost my time on SL's filter last night, which I provided as a caveat to my analysis on Onegu. I'll look over NU's filter a bit later | ||
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Find out in 6 hours I guess | ||
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On December 13 2016 01:50 Holyflare wrote: Are we sure it can't be mahrgell onegu? You keep asking this yet aren't filtering him at all lol | ||
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On December 13 2016 03:26 mahrgell wrote: I've heard that before, but you forgot to mention that it was a great case. Or did you obmit that because HF already mentioned that? I'm confused by your question. His case against me was great? His case relies on the fact the SL was put under pressure yet he seemingly forgets that I was one of the people who originally put pressure on SL. Likewise, I called SL out on his flip flop progression of me when it happened. He claimed that he was trying to move the lynch train off shapelog and I was the one who grilled him and said that was bullshit. I've called SL out on his bull all game and was actually right and now it's being used as the primary reason to scum read me. Basically being good town is why Onegu and HF want me to get lynched. I guess my alternative wagon of TT (suspicious town D1) or SL (the fucking godfather) on D1 was the perfect bus start! The case against me is quite weak and relies on WIFOM bussing play. The only "bus" we have confirmed is SL on NU D1 when there were few other options, yet now people are using it as "The Mafia Doctrine," assuming SL + last remaining mafia played the same game as SL + NU. Really lazy reasoning | ||
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On December 13 2016 03:35 Holyflare wrote: Things that make me town: my not caring attitude the fact I've called myself town 10000000 times the fact I tried to get absolutely 0 credit from a definite NU lynch while pushing it and voting off the wagon the fact I said we should be lynching SL since day one if SL isn't mafia and then myself and LS/you called out SL and he claiemd JK the fact that I was the ONLY one to try and figure out SL/Rels at the start of the day while the majority of the game wanted to leave the claims alone the fact that I re-calculated SL's alignment from the night to the day after he didn't die and posted damning posts on him the fact that SL has repeatedly called me confirmed town based on the NK wifom the fact that mafia kp still went through while I was jkd 2 nights in a row the fact that I've been wrong a lot the fact I'm emotional and hypocritical and paranoid and tinfoily and unwilling to commit in lylo the fact that I haven't pushed someone as definitely mafia and yelled until that person gets lynched repeatedly the fact that at lylo I haven't even bothered to really save myself and instead told you to lynch me when my most priced possession is my mafia win record The problem is, some of these are compelling reasons to look elsewhere (which I've done on Onegu) and which is why I want you to properly look through Mahrgell like you've done to me. However, I know I'm town, so if the vote is between me or someone else (like you) I literally have to vote on it or town loses. I'm in a predicament and open to options but you're also wrong about me. I'm least likely to vote Mahr right now but if you think there's a case, I'd like to hear it. I really don't want to lose this game after we lynched a mafia D1 | ||
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On December 13 2016 03:37 mahrgell wrote: @DF it was a NU joke  I obv suck at jokes. :/ Oh idk how I missed that hahah | ||
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On December 13 2016 04:19 Holyflare wrote: Df can you make a "im town because" post? Sure and hopefully I can answer your question immediately afterwards. If not, I'll be back on an hour before the deadline cuz on campus work ugh. No including home points because we're 2.5 hours from deadline; I am town because: - I was hyper aware of town inactivity D1 and I was really nervous about the one lynch train. Remember EC and his TY case? At the time we didn't know they were both town. - I ultimately got no town cred for NU's flip even though I called him out on his "you're case is good but I'm town :/" ass post. If mafia was attempting to get town cred from a bus, I completely made a bigger spectacle than I needed to that got me lots of attention immediately after flip. - I have been on SL a since D1 for multiple legitimate reasons, INCLUDING his afk park vote on NU. His vote was one of the specific reasons I was worried about the NU lynch. - I wanted to move the lynch to either TT or SL D1. Godfather > framer so this doesn't make sense from mafia POV. - I've answered all questions directed at me honestly and directly all game. Don't really have an agenda because I'm town and I think my posting style suggests as much. - as soon and Rels CC'd I put lots of pressure on SL and realized quite quickly that it would be a huge mistake to keep them both alive and "search for other mafia." This is actually a big town point in my favor because iirc both Onegu and Major wanted us to let them be and "figure the rest out" which made NO sense and was useless. Had to be decided then. - My case on Shapelog was wrong but I think it's clear the logic behind it was solid considering lots of (now) confirmed town agreed with it. - my laziness for a few days was because I thought I had the game figured out between Shape/ch8/SL/EC and with finals coming up this week I took a back seat. - I don't care how my posts come off in terms of timing etc. similar to my other point, I'm not "calculated" - I've been sassy and sarcastic. Self meta that you don't have to buy - only played scum once on this site and it was a debacle especially because in that game my two mafia mates (boxer Fred and ?? Can't remember) went down early and left me on my own. I'm bad at scum. The case against me is one or two circumstantial points that at this point literally everyone who town has strictly because we don't have perfect information so we end up doing stuff that looks bad unknowingly. Going to ##Unvote as a show of good faith because as it stands I could just keep my vote on HF and always win a 2:2 tie because of vote timing | ||
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You don't have to believe me but at the time I was on mobile and eating dinner and saw both vets HF and Onegu call mahr out in a slip. I sort of saw the logic but at the time I trusted both of you and thought it was a decent point. I had also had tin foil theories about mahrgell as mafia for a while and no one really took me up on that idea so I was over eager because other people were starting to see the game in my tin foil way too. Then after TT fired back at you I could see how experienced mafia could jump on anything and everything to try and make the game easier | ||
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(I know I said I wasn't voting him earlier). Now for me it's between Onegu and Mahrgell. A few points on Mahrgell that gave me pause 1. I found HF vs. mahrgell for like 2 days to be a bit manufactured in the sense that it wasted time, filled filter and didn't really add to the game. 2. I have a personal beef with the sheer amount of WoTs mahr has provided even when I and other people have called him out. I made the point near the beginning of the game that excessive WoT and shitty formatting discourages people from actually reading. I can think of a reason this could be beneficial to someone... 3. The way he saw the SL vs. Rels JK thing was so opposite from how I saw it. He pushed the VT!SL thing a lot and said we should totally ignore it. Which still doesn't make sense. 4. No ones pointed this out, but SL's read of mahr went from town --> scum near his death iirc. It's weird tat people give mahr town cred for pushing SL when he wanted initially to keep SL alive 5. He keeps saying it's between HF and DF yet is stuck on everything HF says and hasn't pushed me at all. It started to feel like he had the votes and vote timing with my vote so he didn't want to anger me and lose the 2:2 advantage. These are all concrete non-meta points that give me pause | ||
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