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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
November 01 2016 23:17 GMT
#5161
On November 02 2016 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Do we have reasons to believe Artanis his HP is really only 30?

Can ritoky kill Artanis EoD?


I can deal 15 damage, but you are going to get hurt too, which doesn't sound great
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 01 2016 23:25 GMT
#5162
We need to try to do at least 50 to Artanis EoD.

@Bill Murray
Do you have any damage spell or only heal + shield?

@Ritoky
You already said it once but how much damage can you do EoD?
I had a good night of sleep.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 01 2016 23:27 GMT
#5163
I attacked Koshi again like I said I would. Probably again today unless I change my mind and go to Artanis.

I don't really think Kurumi is mafia either.

I don't think it's Bill either.

Meh

Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 01 2016 23:33 GMT
#5164
Lynch Tubesock.
Damage to Artanis.
I had a good night of sleep.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 02 2016 00:01 GMT
#5165
On November 02 2016 08:25 Koshi wrote:
We need to try to do at least 50 to Artanis EoD.

@Bill Murray
Do you have any damage spell or only heal + shield?

@Ritoky
You already said it once but how much damage can you do EoD?


15 during day, 30 at night with my current amount of clones.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 02 2016 00:02 GMT
#5166
On November 02 2016 08:27 Tubesock wrote:
I attacked Koshi again like I said I would. Probably again today unless I change my mind and go to Artanis.

I don't really think Kurumi is mafia either.

I don't think it's Bill either.

Meh



outside of poe, why is it koshi? also have you claimed?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 02 2016 00:19 GMT
#5167
On November 02 2016 09:02 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2016 08:27 Tubesock wrote:
I attacked Koshi again like I said I would. Probably again today unless I change my mind and go to Artanis.

I don't really think Kurumi is mafia either.

I don't think it's Bill either.

Meh



outside of poe, why is it koshi? also have you claimed?


Not really based on poe. It's because he did nothing pro town until the "double lynch" where he killed a towny anyway. It's a good mafia play too. He brings up this double lynch ability when Vivax was 100% dying anyway. There's nothing that mafia could have done that would have stopped Vivax from dying. But if mafia!Koshi has a day vigi power then he could call it a double lynch and not shoot saying he was blocked.

He was on Skynx from early on though. So meh.

I claimed already. Ostarion and I'm basically a Vet.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 02 2016 00:20 GMT
#5168
Really it's I don't think he should be confirmed town for that and everyone else thinks so but I think they're wrong. Just doesn't seem possible the lock towns are really locked.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 02 2016 03:47 GMT
#5169
Yeah I think we lynch tubesock.
Claiming attack on koshi or not.
Tis dumb
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 02 2016 03:59 GMT
#5170
Bleh maybe not
Iunno
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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 02 2016 10:13 GMT
#5171
Bill Murray -
Vivax mentioned 39 times (some in quotes etc)
Defends - once
Scums - 4 times
He never gives a reason why he scummed Vivax. Goes + Show Spoiler [Why vote V? & agrees with Koshi] +
On October 24 2016 05:52 Bill Murray wrote:
I don't even know why everyone was voting vivax

On October 25 2016 08:28 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2016 07:35 Koshi wrote:
Ritoky/Vivax/Sicklucker/Lunatic/skynx

Endgame cred.

Afkers like Humahama/LT can be replaced with 1

Seems legit


Skynx mentioned 46 times. Mostly in quotes or some vote count analysis.
Defends 1.5 times. The half is because he didn't like WoS's "check" since Bill was using wards.
Scums 8 times. Was a point where he wanted to kill Skynx rather than vote him. and afterword he seemed to feel guilty about his all over the place voting and he was "backed up against a wall" + Show Spoiler +
On November 01 2016 16:57 Bill Murray wrote:
Look at my votes when u were wanting to Lynch skynx they were all over the place and so was my mind. I just didn't see how cop checks were a thing since I had that ward .

On November 01 2016 16:57 Bill Murray wrote:
Oh yeah 2 the point my point is that that's how town thinks if they're smart like I am ... kinda all over the place back against the wall kinda thinking. Scum can be more knowledgeable and all knowing


That seems kinda weird to me. He's not proven wrong yet about voting or being suspicious of WaveofShadow, ritoky, or Koshi and he did end up on Skynx. Seems really weird that he votes WoS on Day 1 and 4, but votes with the crowd on Days 2 & 3 with no reasoning. At least with WoS you can see what he's sort of thinking. And "back against the wall" thinking happens when mafia is in a spot they have to figure out if they are going to bus or not.

I totally get voting around like he did on Day 4. I thought it was towny even. But I don't think I'd feel guilty about it at all. When I saw the Night 4 flip I was stoked we killed 2 mafia at once and had 3 total. Why feel guilty? Kinda misplaced like Kurumi's anger the other day.

Koshi
I apologize for attacking Koshi a bunch of times. He's town. Simply based on his D1 and D2 voting.

ritoky - First this response to Skynx:
On October 26 2016 07:33 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 07:29 Skynx wrote:
I sort of see your point but what i mean is it doesn't confirm other people.

S1: Koshi dead, flipped town. People visiting him still might be town on wrong track. He is like top sr of half the people here.


Right, but you're thinking about it from a town perspective. I am not. I am looking for people who's kneecaps I have to kiss to keep me from being in any danger.

Mind you I have realized, and please don't take offense to this mafias out there, that 1 or 2 mafia probably need to die for this game to go long enough for me to fulfill my win condition. So currently I am a bit more town sided, hence why I tried to use a sentry ward to help town.


Is ritoky capable of faking this underlined statement to his scumbuddy Skynx? I think this is a pretty strong town tell from ritoky.

Anyway there are 25 mentions of Skynx in ritoky's filter. He defends once (above quote) and then names him in a POE list with a lot of other people in it. That's it. I'm not counting the post he says that if Skynx flips red then I am town or busser of the century. But if he's mafia, then saying that about me just makes it much harder to get another mlynch and I'm a great candidate for that.

ritoky is town.

Kurumi-
Mentions Vivax 11 times defends him 4. Votes him Day 4 but I didn't see why (policy maybe, Vivax isn't on any list).
Mentions Skynx 7 times and only says anything about him in 2 of his lists where he is in weird () category.

+ Show Spoiler [Last List] +
On October 25 2016 01:18 Kurumi wrote:
Players:

[Town Reads]
ExO_
Bill Murray
Dandel Ion
Acrofales
Holyflare


[Town Leans]
Koshi
WaveofShadow

[Weird]
ritoky
Tubesock
Tictock
Skynx

[Scum Leans]
ptmc
Hopeless1der
beentheredonethat
sicklucker



[Scum]
Lord Tolkien
Lunaticman
iamperfection




There's zero reasoning on why he voted Vivax or Skynx. Looks like sheeping I guess. They were overwhelming wagons. Day 2 he was midpack vote on Lunaticman and the next day he voted sicklucker. Sicklucker was in his scum leans () section. And of course no reasoning whatsoever. He then somehow ends up on Vivax's wagon despite only defending him. Vivax never makes it onto Kurumi's lists despite Vivax being on the few votes Kurumi actually comments on.

I'm tired. I believe Artanis[Xp]'s 3p claim. WaveofShadow's town just on this filter and leadership.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 02 2016 10:14 GMT
#5172
Gah Forgot this part.

On October 22 2016 06:04 disformation wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 1


Tictock (8); Tubesock ritoky, Bill Murray, Koshi
Koshi (4):, TubeSock
Lunaticman (1): ritoky, Koshi
Vivax (2): Tubesock Koshi
Lord Tolkien (2): Kurumi, WaveofShadow
WaveofShadow (1): Bill Murray
ritoky (1): Koshi
Holyflare (1): Bill Murray
ptmc (0): WaveofShadow
Skynx (0): Koshi
beentheredonethat (0): WaveofShadow
Hopeless1der (0): Koshi
Kurumi (0): Kurumi Bill Murray

On October 25 2016 06:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 2


Vivax (10):Koshi, Tubesock, WaveofShadow, Bill Murray, Tubesock
Lunaticman *****(8): Koshi, Koshi, Artanis[xP], Kurumi, ritoky, Lord Tolkien
Tubesock (1): Vivax
Lord Tolkien (0): Kurumi
Exo_ (0): Koshi
GlowingBear (0): Artanis[Xp]
Skynx(0): Koshi. Artanis[X], Tubesock

On October 28 2016 06:02 disformation wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 3


Vivax (9): Tubesock, WaveofShadow, Bill Murray,Artanis[Xp], Kurumi
Lunaticman**** (5):, Koshi, Artanis[Xp], ritoky
sicklucker (0): Kurumi

On October 31 2016 05:28 AFK Jungle wrote:
Vote Count - Day 4


Skynx (11): WaveofShadow, Tubesock, Koshi, Bill Murray Artanis[Xp], Kurumi, Bill Murray, ritoky
Koshi (1): Skynx, Bill Murray
ritoky (0): Bill Murray
WaveofShadow (0): Bill Murray






1. Artanis[Xp]**-
      Voted Day 1 - none
      Voted Day 2 - Skynx, GlowingBear, Lunaticman
      Voted Day 3 - Vivax, Lunaticman
      Voted Day 4 - Skynx

2. Kurumi -
      Voted Day 1 - Kurumi, Lord Tolkien
      Voted Day 2 - Lord Tolkien, Lunaticman
      Voted Day 3 - sicklucker, Vivax
      Voted Day 4 - Skynx

3. Koshi
      Voted Day 1 - Hopeless1der, Skynx, ritoky, Vivax, Lunaticman, Ticktock
      Voted Day 2 - Skynx, ExO_, Lunaticman, Vivax, Lunaticman
      Voted Day 3 - Lunaticman
      Voted Day 4 - Skynx

4. Tubesock
      Voted Day 1 - Vivax, Ticktock, Koshi
      Voted Day 2 - Skynx, Vivax
      Voted Day 3 - Vivax
      Voted Day 4 - Skynx

5. ritoky
      Voted Day 1 - Lunaticman, Tictock
      Voted Day 2 - Lunaticman
      Voted Day 3 - Lunaticman
      Voted Day 4 - skynx

7. Bill Murray
      Voted Day 1 - Kurumi, HolyFlare, WaveofShadow, Tictock
      Voted Day 2 - Vivax
      Voted Day 3 - Vivax
      Voted Day 4 - WaveofShadow, ritoky, Koshi, Skynx

9. WaveofShadow
      Voted Day 1 - beentheredonethat, ptmc, Lord Tolkien
      Voted Day 2 - Vivax
      Voted Day 3 - Vivax
      Voted Day 4 - Skynx


Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
November 02 2016 10:21 GMT
#5173
Forgot this too.

The first parts with the vote counts are with just the survivors. The second bit is the votes by player. They are not really in order of when they were cast. I underlined the vote that the player ended on. If there isn't a line that's underlined it's the last player listed that was on the final vote.

I don't think I'll be around for EoD.

I guess I think town should kill Kurumi, me, Bill then Artanis. Unless Wave is alive for couple more nights. Think about ritoky too. I think he's town, but he's really good at making some insane mafia plays. He could have floated that towntell for someone to find. And defending me and later lynching me isn't really that difficult to pull off.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 02 2016 10:46 GMT
#5174
Vote Count - Day 5


Kurumi (4): Bill Murray, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], Tubesock
Tubesock (1): Koshi
Artanis[Xp] (1): Koshi, Bill Murray, Kurumi

Not voting (1): ritoky

It looks like Kurumi is about to get owned.
Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00) and resolves one hour later, at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 02 2016 11:40 GMT
#5175
##unvote
##vote Kurumi


I like the big effort. I have some problems with your analysis but the main thing is that in your scumreads there is no room for an SK. If Kurumi is mafia, we have to look for an SK and not another mafia. Only when Kurumi flips SK, we should look for a mafia.

We are missing the damage on Exo en Dandel. So unless they took huge damage early on and Vivax didn't send in heals, I don't see how they died.


On November 02 2016 07:37 Kurumi wrote:
And I'm going to vote Artanis for obvious reasons. 1) He's claimed 3p 2) that puts me on the top of the list, so I can shield damage from everyone by being on top

Reason 2 is antitown thinking. Why would mafia/3p use kp on town!Kurumi? Only when Kurumi is one of the 2, then there is a good chance he will get targeted by KP by the other anti town.
I had a good night of sleep.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 02 2016 12:10 GMT
#5176
Who are we punching today?
Artanis?
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 02 2016 12:20 GMT
#5177
On November 02 2016 21:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Who are we punching today?
Artanis?

No
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
November 02 2016 13:08 GMT
#5178
told you my reads are shit
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 02 2016 13:11 GMT
#5179
On November 02 2016 21:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Who are we punching today?
Artanis?

Yes
I had a good night of sleep.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
November 02 2016 13:14 GMT
#5180
Okay guys, should I try to make killing Artanis easier, while dealing damage to Koshi, or should I just punch him/reduce his damage?
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