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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 16 2016 16:24 GMT
#10
/in
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 28 2016 07:46 GMT
#70
On September 28 2016 11:21 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2016 05:56 beentheredonethat wrote:
Setup Rolls

Role distribution will be randomized as in all of my games.

Round 1:
First roll: Determine first player to receive town PR. Second roll: Determine first power role.
Round 2:
First roll: Determine second player to receive town PR. Second roll: Determine second power role.

Round 3-5:
Roll roles for Scum players.

All role combinations are possible.

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So does this mean there could be two of the same town power roles?

10 vs 3
9 vs 3 ml
8 vs 3 nk
7 vs 3 ml
6 vs 3 nk
5 vs 3 ml
4 vs 3 nk into lylo

I think that if a 3 men mafia team needs to win after a 5th ml when town didn't play their roles superb is not balanced. I am not sure if both vet getting shot and doc saving 1 person is superb play. Not bad play though. But 5 ml is insane!!! Such a long game as well. Town leaders being alive for a long time. Blueclaims... Not balanced imo.

2 veterans I could live with if rb cancels the vest. It was so last game you hosted so that is fine.
2 docs is imbalanced.
2 vigis I can live with. But pretty insane.
2 cops are maybe even more imbalanced than 2 docs.

Random all roles is fun and stuff. But you want to keep your game balanced. Like cop + vigi puts so much pressure on the mafia team to look extremely good. Town gets a lynch, a copcheck and a vigi shot before Day 2. And on Day 2 could potentially claim 2 blue roles (they are unlynchable). That is information on 6 players by the start of D2 in a 13 player game, at least 2 of those are dead. And mafia wins on 3rd ml on 3rd day but still...

Maybe introduce a miller? So mafia has an out when they get redchecked. Or a framer instead of gf. Or both.


If you really 100% random and have potential double roles on all I think I will out. 2 any roles are always good enough for town with a chance to become batshit crazy.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-28 12:14:31
September 28 2016 12:12 GMT
#77
On September 28 2016 19:00 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 11:21 scott31337 wrote:
On September 14 2016 05:56 beentheredonethat wrote:
Setup Rolls

Role distribution will be randomized as in all of my games.

Round 1:
First roll: Determine first player to receive town PR. Second roll: Determine first power role.
Round 2:
First roll: Determine second player to receive town PR. Second roll: Determine second power role.

Round 3-5:
Roll roles for Scum players.

All role combinations are possible.


So does this mean there could be two of the same town power roles?

No. Good catch, thank you. Once a power role has been rolled, it will not be rolled again. I have added the information to the OP.

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 28 2016 16:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 11:21 scott31337 wrote:
On September 14 2016 05:56 beentheredonethat wrote:
Setup Rolls

Role distribution will be randomized as in all of my games.

Round 1:
First roll: Determine first player to receive town PR. Second roll: Determine first power role.
Round 2:
First roll: Determine second player to receive town PR. Second roll: Determine second power role.

Round 3-5:
Roll roles for Scum players.

All role combinations are possible.

Voting

Use the voting thread!
Votes in game thread will not be counted. Remember to
##unvote as votes without ##unvote will not be counted. There will be no notification if the vote is invalid.


Activity

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So does this mean there could be two of the same town power roles?

10 vs 3
9 vs 3 ml
8 vs 3 nk
7 vs 3 ml
6 vs 3 nk
5 vs 3 ml
4 vs 3 nk into lylo

I think that if a 3 men mafia team needs to win after a 5th ml when town didn't play their roles superb is not balanced. I am not sure if both vet getting shot and doc saving 1 person is superb play. Not bad play though. But 5 ml is insane!!! Such a long game as well. Town leaders being alive for a long time. Blueclaims... Not balanced imo.

2 veterans I could live with if rb cancels the vest. It was so last game you hosted so that is fine.
2 docs is imbalanced.
2 vigis I can live with. But pretty insane.
2 cops are maybe even more imbalanced than 2 docs.

Random all roles is fun and stuff. But you want to keep your game balanced. Like cop + vigi puts so much pressure on the mafia team to look extremely good. Town gets a lynch, a copcheck and a vigi shot before Day 2. And on Day 2 could potentially claim 2 blue roles (they are unlynchable). That is information on 6 players by the start of D2 in a 13 player game, at least 2 of those are dead. And mafia wins on 3rd ml on 3rd day but still...

Maybe introduce a miller? So mafia has an out when they get redchecked. Or a framer instead of gf. Or both.


If you really 100% random and have potential double roles on all I think I will out. 2 any roles are always good enough for town with a chance to become batshit crazy.


As said above, no double roles will be included. Any combination of roles is possible but no duplicate roles.

I am pretty sure you don't want to random the mafia roles but you will want to adjust them to counter the town roles.
medic/cop
medic/vet
medic/vigi
cop/vet
cop/vigi
vet/vigi

Only medic/vet is a pretty crappy set-up. Especially if mafia rolls gf/framer/goon.


Also no love for unaware miller



/confirm.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 28 2016 12:15 GMT
#78
On September 28 2016 17:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 16:46 Koshi wrote:
On September 28 2016 11:21 scott31337 wrote:
On September 14 2016 05:56 beentheredonethat wrote:
Setup Rolls

Role distribution will be randomized as in all of my games.

Round 1:
First roll: Determine first player to receive town PR. Second roll: Determine first power role.
Round 2:
First roll: Determine second player to receive town PR. Second roll: Determine second power role.

Round 3-5:
Roll roles for Scum players.

All role combinations are possible.

Voting

Use the voting thread!
Votes in game thread will not be counted. Remember to
##unvote as votes without ##unvote will not be counted. There will be no notification if the vote is invalid.


Activity

Remember, a minimum of 5 (five) posts is required per day phase.


So does this mean there could be two of the same town power roles?

10 vs 3
9 vs 3 ml
8 vs 3 nk
7 vs 3 ml
6 vs 3 nk
5 vs 3 ml
4 vs 3 nk into lylo

I think that if a 3 men mafia team needs to win after a 5th ml when town didn't play their roles superb is not balanced. I am not sure if both vet getting shot and doc saving 1 person is superb play. Not bad play though. But 5 ml is insane!!! Such a long game as well. Town leaders being alive for a long time. Blueclaims... Not balanced imo.

2 veterans I could live with if rb cancels the vest. It was so last game you hosted so that is fine.
2 docs is imbalanced.
2 vigis I can live with. But pretty insane.
2 cops are maybe even more imbalanced than 2 docs.

Random all roles is fun and stuff. But you want to keep your game balanced. Like cop + vigi puts so much pressure on the mafia team to look extremely good. Town gets a lynch, a copcheck and a vigi shot before Day 2. And on Day 2 could potentially claim 2 blue roles (they are unlynchable). That is information on 6 players by the start of D2 in a 13 player game, at least 2 of those are dead. And mafia wins on 3rd ml on 3rd day but still...

Maybe introduce a miller? So mafia has an out when they get redchecked. Or a framer instead of gf. Or both.


If you really 100% random and have potential double roles on all I think I will out. 2 any roles are always good enough for town with a chance to become batshit crazy.

I agree with this guy. He is a balance expert after all.

the pocketing starts so soon.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 03 2016 20:59 GMT
#119
First confirmed town.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 03 2016 21:03 GMT
#120
Not sure if I have a plan this game. Not hard townreading mafia somehow maybe.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 03 2016 21:09 GMT
#121
tumbleweed.jpg
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 03 2016 22:18 GMT
#139
Can you Americans tell me what good series just started?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 03 2016 22:20 GMT
#141
On October 04 2016 07:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 07:00 Grackaroni wrote:
Lol NU I think the rule is pretty well defined.


I do not. Hence why I ask. I would like specific examples to know whether the rules prohibit me from being mod confirmed.

rules? What about your honor as a player.
I already know what this is about and it is superlame. superlame.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 09:34 GMT
#194
On October 04 2016 15:40 Holyflare wrote:
nEVERuNLUCKY probably bs confirmed himself town and koshi is either abusing it and bsing or is also town. Calix bad or mafia for even voting that way.

More wishy washy statements on koshi to come.

I am dismissing the entire event.

A jury in a murder case also has to sometimes dismiss extreme good looking evidence because it is obtained outside the law. I always imagined that was the hardest thing to do and that in reality the jury wouldn't dismiss it at all. But I will completely dismiss it.

I encourage the other judges to follow my example.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 11:04 GMT
#213
Just proof that he has done it in the past.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 13:04 GMT
#293
It's rare that I am superbusy but I am superbusy.
Been skimming the thread all day but last 25ish post I started skimming to only read posts not from Calix or ud and there weren't any so that's that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 13:38 GMT
#331
On October 04 2016 22:18 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Quick shitpost to make sure I have more posts than Calix.

lol. best post I read since long.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 14:53 GMT
#395
On October 04 2016 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:50 Calix wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:
Like if you think that WIFOM is going to work out for you then you're going to have a bad time.

Explain yourself or eat rope.


Clearly I'm coming here and trying to get superbia to actually post relevant stuff so I can get a read on him that isnt predicated on his horrible first 2 posts. To do this I don't actually need to vote in the voting thread. You guys need to get it out of your heads that voting is alignment indicative. The only place it's alignment indicative is when it's the vote to Lynch someone or to Lynch some else that djdnt actually get lynched.


That's detracting from the initial issue. Nobody was objecting to a Superbia vote. We were calling you out on saying that I was scummy while voting for someone else. The fact that the person is Superbia is 0% relevant.

And yes, votes are not AI unless you know what some of the flips are. Thanks mate.

On October 04 2016 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:44 Calix wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:25 Calix wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:17 Calix wrote:
[quote]

What the fuck kind of logic is that? You ask questions to pry into someone's thought processes which you are STILL NOT EXPLAINING.

You stated "Calix is scummy"

You voted for Superbia.

You did not state a scum-read on Superbia.

Why the fuck are you not explaining your vote?

If it's 'lul randum xD' then why are you random-voting over a scum-read?

Obviously I think super is scummy and obviously I dont think it's worth explaining a read on him just yet. Can you propose a reason why I would do this as scum?


Can you explain why you are doing it as town?

I don't have a fucking clue what you are trying to achieve here, dude. It makes no sense to throw down a 'vote' without actually voting and then refusing to explain it, since this draws a stupid amount of attention to you, but you are also aware of this (like I was earlier) so that weakens the argument a little.

So as it stands, my reasoning for both alignments is "you're an idiot"

You're welcome for this incisive analysis.

In your opinion, after his first 2 posts what did you read superbia as? This is going somewhere, please assist


I can't help you out much, lol. I didn't have a read on him with those posts because he said he was planning on lurking on Day 1 in the pre-game so while repeating that is redundant, I just read them as generic "check-in" posts.

Come on you can do better than that. So he makes generic check in posts when it's at least 10 pages of stuff he could actually comment on but he chooses not to? What does that initially say about his alignment?


Why don't you just tell us what you're getting at instead of trying to prompt me into saying things for you? I can see the leading questions from a mile off. I've already said that I think those posts are NAI by themselves, the end.

Spit it out or piss off.

I said my point already.

Im not explaining my vote because I'm not trying to get other people to vote for superbia. Is that so hard to understand? The vote is to pressure superbia and it's only for him.


Calling a vote a pressure vote kills its intent.

Do you have actual reads?

Intent over already.
I think koshi has been skating by on pithy little comments.
I seem to remember other people promising shit but not delivering. I think it's stutters so he's leaning scum. Pretty sure Marv and Palmar are town. They don't give enough of a shit.

Koshi superbusy.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 15:29 GMT
#402
Am I not underwhelming?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 15:33 GMT
#407
On October 05 2016 00:31 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 00:29 Koshi wrote:
Am I not underwhelming?


Well duh.

You didn't name yourself Yoshi

Also you keep harping on about your RL stuff.

Yes. I am superbusy. Not normal.
Day to Day stuff.
Month-End Closing.
Quartal Closing.
Planning 2017.

Insane. My brain is mush.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 18:01 GMT
#476
lol I panicked so hard when I saw 306 new posts. But this is on teamliquid lol.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 18:09 GMT
#477
On October 05 2016 01:43 Palmar wrote:
Thing about HF is I've convinced myself I need to figure him out, which is why I'm interested in him.

Also someone kidnapped the real Koshi, but I'm not sure fake koshi is mafia. But he's not real koshi.

Koshi is real. Just superbusy and tired due to having to have to use all his braincells at work. Yes. Koshi has so many braincells he normally can play mafia and still work better than anybody. But this period is really hard, each year. But this year I feel it is even busier. Well. It simply is way busier.

There is a legit chance I might have to do a real 100% sheep. Exciting times!
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 18:11 GMT
#478
Grack is a pretty funny guy.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 18:15 GMT
#479
I have really no braincells left. Really rough day. Rarely happens. Maybe I can find 1 townread later today? Koshi will try.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 18:23 GMT
#480
It's been so long that I don't remember how marv plays as mafia when he actually tries. Is he already passed the treshhold? Maybe. Suggestion to marv: Call some people idiots. Not Koshi though.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 18:25 GMT
#481
Hmm marv and Palmar are voting Palmar and not the other way around. This way I can understand easier.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 18:25 GMT
#482
I meant JAT obviously.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 18:29 GMT
#483
On October 05 2016 02:40 Superbia wrote:
As I've said before, the Calix/NU thing is the most interesting thing so far. You've danced around alignments like a ballerina. Your push on Palmar was decent and founded. Palmar has shown up and done somewhat okay shit.

What now Marv?

Why is your mafia team Marv/Palmar? Doesn't add up if you believe this ↑
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 18:31 GMT
#484
And was his push really decent and founded? Meh. Dnu.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 20:38 GMT
#588
On October 05 2016 03:46 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 03:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 05 2016 02:40 Superbia wrote:
As I've said before, the Calix/NU thing is the most interesting thing so far. You've danced around alignments like a ballerina. Your push on Palmar was decent and founded. Palmar has shown up and done somewhat okay shit.

What now Marv?

Why is your mafia team Marv/Palmar? Doesn't add up if you believe this ↑

I wonder where I have heard that before.

ln my defense. I skim over a lot of posts. I try to read yours though.
-insert joke around the fact that now that my mind is superweak and mush it is equal to yours-
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 20:41 GMT
#592
On October 05 2016 05:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 05:38 Koshi wrote:
On October 05 2016 03:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 05 2016 03:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 05 2016 02:40 Superbia wrote:
As I've said before, the Calix/NU thing is the most interesting thing so far. You've danced around alignments like a ballerina. Your push on Palmar was decent and founded. Palmar has shown up and done somewhat okay shit.

What now Marv?

Why is your mafia team Marv/Palmar? Doesn't add up if you believe this ↑

I wonder where I have heard that before.

ln my defense. I skim over a lot of posts. I try to read yours though.
-insert joke around the fact that now that my mind is superweak and mush it is equal to yours-

You know what's the purest form of irony?

Koshi, the guy who has been pushing me as mafia for repeating what town leaders say for years and years repeating what I say this game. If you are mafia this is quite hilarious.

Not really. You do it always a minute or something right after somebody says it. Or even 30 seconds. I didn't check but I probably did it way long after you said it.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 20:44 GMT
#596
You want to know how tired I am?

I was trying to go back to where I was. And I pressed 2 pages back (because I thought I was there) and didn't recognize a single post on the page, so I went 3 pages back (same story), and then 4... 100% sure I read that page but can't recognize the posts.


this has never happened to me before. Being this tired. Even if I skip sleep and am awake for 40 hours.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 05 2016 11:16 GMT
#857
I took a half day off and now need to work 100% concentrated. Haven't read last 250ish posts. Will do so last 4 hours of EoD. Expect me to play in . Maybe 1 hour faster. But till EoD.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 05 2016 17:37 GMT
#995
On October 05 2016 22:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 22:39 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 05 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 05 2016 22:00 Calix wrote:
Basically Grack is someone who is in my lean-town category because of some shitty/ weak reasoning, other people being scummier, etc. Consider it 'town by statistical probability'.

I expect my reads to change drastically depending on the flip.

Can you bring me through a quick summary of his alignment assuming bats flips town/scum?



If Bat is scum, then I'd look into Grack as he is a possible partner, wouldn't have pushed scum!bat much and focused more on pushing HF/ JAT and defending Superbia. (however I don't think Grack has said anything to/ about batsnacks that is scummy by itself)

If Bat is town then I don't see my opinion of him changing much, so town.

I'm not very comfortable with giving my thoughts on how I might view things in hypothetical scenarios so take with a grain of salt.


huh

I thought if bats is scum I was scum?! This doesn't make any sense. I mean sure, grack and bats can be a team but it does not fit in your supposed train of thought at all.


What? This has nothing to do with you.

He's asking how my opinion of Grack would change depending on what Bat flipped.

I responded with "Grack could be a potential partner if Bat is scum but I don't think he's done anything scummy at the moment"

I don't even get what your argument is here.

Your whole scumread on me hinges on bats being scum. And now if someone asks you what you think of grack if bats flips scum you say: "he might be scum because he pushed JAT instead of bats"? Like what?

Can somebody tell me if this is 100% true?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 05 2016 17:44 GMT
#1005
I think Calix/nu/batsnacks and Grack are all town. Mafia is within Superbia/HF/Palmar/JAT.

Problem is. How do I proof this.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 05 2016 17:49 GMT
#1014
On October 06 2016 02:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 02:44 Koshi wrote:
I think Calix/nu/batsnacks and Grack are all town. Mafia is within Superbia/HF/Palmar/JAT.

Problem is. How do I proof this.

NU agrees with Koshi. Though replace super with stutters.

Yeah, I read from pages 32 to around 45 and then skimmed because fuck reading.

People I haven't read a post about are not in the list.

Oats is meh. Very aggressive.
Marv townlean but from yesterday. (only read his and superbia his filter)
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 05 2016 17:50 GMT
#1017
On October 06 2016 02:49 Calix wrote:
Like how is it that I have to explain the incredibly simple logic of "X player who stops posting and claims that he'll only check the thread to see how he can survive and who gets a counterwagon to X going shortly afterwards is mafia" to people?

Christ.

Do you want to lynch batsnacks? Is this about batsnacks?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 05 2016 17:53 GMT
#1020
On October 06 2016 02:48 Holyflare wrote:
I'm up for a superbia shenanigan

HF can you explain to me why you stopped putting pressure on JAT and went full out against Calix for that 1 post?
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 17:55 GMT
#1024
Yeah Calix is 100% town for me.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 17:58 GMT
#1031
Ok. So let's not lynch into these names.
Calix, Koshi, Oats, NU, Superbia, Grack, Damdred, Marv, batsnacks

Who is left?
Palmar
justanothertownie
Holyflare
Stutters695

Pretty good stuff.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:00 GMT
#1038
On October 06 2016 02:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 02:53 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 02:48 Holyflare wrote:
I'm up for a superbia shenanigan

HF can you explain to me why you stopped putting pressure on JAT and went full out against Calix for that 1 post?


because I remembered that I always scum read jat for playing like shit and I didn't mind his responses and I weigh someone scum reading me when they agree with everything I pushed way more likely mafia than anything else and all I did was ask for her scum reads and what i got instead was a "if my two scum reads AREN'T mafia then there's mafia in this pool" post instead of actual list of scum reads and reasons and my name was in the list which is bs.

Sounds pretty cheap.
How can you turn vs Calix and join JAT for that?

Calix is very obvious town for me.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:01 GMT
#1042
On October 06 2016 03:00 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 03:00 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 02:56 Holyflare wrote:
On October 06 2016 02:53 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 02:48 Holyflare wrote:
I'm up for a superbia shenanigan

HF can you explain to me why you stopped putting pressure on JAT and went full out against Calix for that 1 post?


because I remembered that I always scum read jat for playing like shit and I didn't mind his responses and I weigh someone scum reading me when they agree with everything I pushed way more likely mafia than anything else and all I did was ask for her scum reads and what i got instead was a "if my two scum reads AREN'T mafia then there's mafia in this pool" post instead of actual list of scum reads and reasons and my name was in the list which is bs.

Sounds pretty cheap.
How can you turn vs Calix and join JAT for that?

Calix is very obvious town for me.


because then she also forgot her jat read and made some bull shit grack post

Sure felt like you pushing mafia agenda. A lot.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:05 GMT
#1052
On October 06 2016 03:02 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 03:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 03:00 Holyflare wrote:
On October 06 2016 03:00 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 02:56 Holyflare wrote:
On October 06 2016 02:53 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 02:48 Holyflare wrote:
I'm up for a superbia shenanigan

HF can you explain to me why you stopped putting pressure on JAT and went full out against Calix for that 1 post?


because I remembered that I always scum read jat for playing like shit and I didn't mind his responses and I weigh someone scum reading me when they agree with everything I pushed way more likely mafia than anything else and all I did was ask for her scum reads and what i got instead was a "if my two scum reads AREN'T mafia then there's mafia in this pool" post instead of actual list of scum reads and reasons and my name was in the list which is bs.

Sounds pretty cheap.
How can you turn vs Calix and join JAT for that?

Calix is very obvious town for me.


because then she also forgot her jat read and made some bull shit grack post

Sure felt like you pushing mafia agenda. A lot.


I literally do not care. It was terrible.

Maybe. I am on a point where I would townread her with a redcheck.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:07 GMT
#1057
Stutters his filer is hilarious. Goddamn.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:12 GMT
#1069
On October 06 2016 03:10 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:
Palmar is a bad D1 lynch. Same with Stutters. They should be discussed in more detail overnight and tomorrow.

We should lynch batsnacks.

In the event that people try to CFD, then JAT/ HF are also good options.

But batsnacks is superior. He is not giving information to the town, his train has been ridiculously contested despite nobody being able to show town motivation in his posts (only point is NU saying he has 'town tone' so eh) and his lynch will be ten times more useful to the town than a lurker lynch.

We kill off a semi-inactive player AND get information on how the surviving players reacted to him.


In case people missed this post as it was at the bottom of the page.

Hmm. Dnu.
I think batsnacks is town but he might be the mafia player that I never lynch D1. There is a type.

But still. Palmar is not the worst D1 lynch. So many times I die during the night and then for some reason he is still alive endgame even though I made 56455684 posts on why he is mafia. It has been at least 4 games. And I think 2 of those I was modkilled. Fucked up.

Going to reread him. Got to go for the celebrity lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:15 GMT
#1073
Ohyeah I remember why Palmar is in my scumlist.
He wanted to kill both Calix and Grack in consecutive posts when they are obv town.

Now that I reread his filter he is 100% mafia on Calix the entire game. The guy is not this bad.

##vote Palmar

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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:16 GMT
#1076
Who here thinks Calix is 100% mafia?
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:19 GMT
#1081
Palmar his page 1 and 3 are just one liners about Calix/Grack being mafia.

His page 2 is about JAT/Superbia being mafia and he treats Calix like a null read.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:20 GMT
#1082
Also the post in which he replies to JAT with "Your mom is a conclusion" was super awkward.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:21 GMT
#1087
On October 05 2016 20:18 Palmar wrote:
I like Hf's rant post.

Also this. Ofc mafia enjoys that post. It was anti town and didn't further solve the game at all.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:22 GMT
#1089
On October 06 2016 03:22 Calix wrote:
I think lynching among JAT/ HF/ batsnacks is way more likely to hit multiple scum. Better return.

You don't agree?

I think batsnacks is town and Palmar mafia.

Palmar/JAT is also very possible.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:23 GMT
#1090
Also HF just sheeping me here feels just too good to be true.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:23 GMT
#1091
It's positive in all scenarios.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:24 GMT
#1094
On October 05 2016 21:12 Palmar wrote:
Regarding JAT, I don't know what to think about his response to me.

a) he might be (or he might believe that he is) correct that pressuring him to take a stance isn't going to work.

b) he also knows that I believe I can pressure him into submission as town, whether or not that is true seems irrelevant.

c) despite b), it's not certain that he thought about what I believe

So in general, I'm still sort of meh on JAT, he is doing the jat thing where he sort of casually comments along in the thread, and I always think he's mafia for it and sometimes I tunnel it and sometimes I leave it. I have no real idea what he actually is.

What is this post?
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:32 GMT
#1103
Ok. We still have a lot of time.
Going to rest and play Dota. I will reread batsnacks later.

Palmar should come in soon anyway.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:42 GMT
#1109
On October 06 2016 03:35 marvellosity wrote:
i'm on page 51 and the lynch on calix seems fine, gonna chill my vote on bats though.

good chance maf maf i suppose

On October 06 2016 03:37 marvellosity wrote:
although now i'm preferring batsnacks more

i really think there's a much lower percentage of the time bats is town than calix

Really? You think there is a chance that Calix is mafia?

What about Palmar?
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:45 GMT
#1114
On October 06 2016 03:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 03:42 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 03:35 marvellosity wrote:
i'm on page 51 and the lynch on calix seems fine, gonna chill my vote on bats though.

good chance maf maf i suppose

On October 06 2016 03:37 marvellosity wrote:
although now i'm preferring batsnacks more

i really think there's a much lower percentage of the time bats is town than calix

Really? You think there is a chance that Calix is mafia?

What about Palmar?

we never agree on anything koshi

palmar can be anything, sadly i don't know yet

It's not that I am against a batsnacks lynch per se. But Palmar... Looks so much more likely to be mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:46 GMT
#1120
On October 06 2016 03:45 Calix wrote:
Fuck Palmar, what about JAT? Has he even done anything townie this game aside from compare himself to his town games?

I looked at Palmar's filter and he actually has some okayish posts in there.

I'm not saying that they're amazing contributions - we're talking about the Town Tard here - but there is some effort there imo.

Palmar is not the Town Tard. He was voted best player in 2015 or something and he actually finds mafia. This game he is calling you mafia 24/7 without reasoning. Why are you even defending him?
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:47 GMT
#1123
On October 06 2016 03:46 Grackaroni wrote:
If you can write a convincing case then I will vote Bats.

Traitor!!!!
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:49 GMT
#1128
I don't understand why we didn't pressure Palmar harder and longer tbh. But I am fine with this. Not fair if I get my lynch after being afk 24/7

##unvote
##vote batsnacks
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 18:52 GMT
#1133
Going to vote Palmar anyways.

##unvote
##vote Palmar
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 19:19 GMT
#1159
On October 06 2016 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi, why is it you town read grack? I'm curious.

I had a +1 after his name after I did the read up. I don't know what post it exactly was. I think it was for going against the stream and pushing the Calix town read? That being said. He and rels owned my ass superhard last time so I should be still very careful.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 19:21 GMT
#1161
On October 06 2016 04:02 Holyflare wrote:
koshi can i stop sheeping you now? I want to make calix paranoid

Hmm. I prefer to keep votes on Palmar tbh.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 19:22 GMT
#1162
On October 06 2016 04:10 Calix wrote:
The only reason I feel sympathetic is because he's about to get a hurricane through his area.

LOL.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 19:25 GMT
#1164
Yeah I don't know about this batsnacks lynch tbh.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 19:26 GMT
#1166
reread his filter and really. Why is he mafia?
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 19:30 GMT
#1169
On October 06 2016 03:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 03:45 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 06 2016 03:44 marvellosity wrote:
On October 06 2016 03:43 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 06 2016 03:40 marvellosity wrote:
On October 06 2016 03:38 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 06 2016 03:35 marvellosity wrote:
i'm on page 51 and the lynch on calix seems fine, gonna chill my vote on bats though.

good chance maf maf i suppose

Really? Why do you think Calix is maf?

thought HF had a compelling post, can't now remember what it said. some 3 point thing

something about being around a lot but only being reactive particularly.

but vote bats.

It was when she said that I could be mafia if Bats is mafia even though I had pushed JAT who she had associated with Bats.

I think she's given quite reasonable explanations for it.

then vote bats

Make a case?

the case is simple

he doesn't really commit to much and has had 'politician' posts as jat has put it. that's scummy on its own

then add meta on top that that's what he does as mafia and doesn't do as town

that's my case. irrefutable

This does not make him mafia in my eyes. I am not even sure if it is true.
Like.. what "politician posts". It's just his opinion on things.

I also feel he got way too much heat for saying he thinks superbia is town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 05 2016 19:30 GMT
#1170
On October 06 2016 04:29 Palmar wrote:
Batsnacks is probably not mafia but idk

Hello Mafia buddy.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 19:37 GMT
#1173
On October 06 2016 04:35 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 04:29 Holyflare wrote:
can we lynch superbia now :D?

I think this is a great lynch and not just for self preservation purposes! It is bad that as soon as I intercepted all the heat he was getting he left.

Or Damdred for real

What about Palmar?
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 19:43 GMT
#1179
On October 06 2016 04:39 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 04:37 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 04:35 batsnacks wrote:
On October 06 2016 04:29 Holyflare wrote:
can we lynch superbia now :D?

I think this is a great lynch and not just for self preservation purposes! It is bad that as soon as I intercepted all the heat he was getting he left.

Or Damdred for real

What about Palmar?

I don't think palmar has been scummy

Can you define what Palmar being scummy means?
Like... What are the requirements for Palmar to be scummy?

This is afk Palmar. When is afk Palmar scummy?
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 19:48 GMT
#1184
On October 06 2016 04:45 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 04:43 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 04:39 batsnacks wrote:
On October 06 2016 04:37 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 04:35 batsnacks wrote:
On October 06 2016 04:29 Holyflare wrote:
can we lynch superbia now :D?

I think this is a great lynch and not just for self preservation purposes! It is bad that as soon as I intercepted all the heat he was getting he left.

Or Damdred for real

What about Palmar?

I don't think palmar has been scummy

Can you define what Palmar being scummy means?
Like... What are the requirements for Palmar to be scummy?

This is afk Palmar. When is afk Palmar scummy?

If I say sorry stupid shit that sounds smart I'm mafia
If I say smart shit that sounds borderline retarded I'm town

Convince me Grack or Calix are mafia then. I am not saying it is 100% impossible.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 19:55 GMT
#1187
On October 06 2016 04:52 batsnacks wrote:
I don't know what palmar needs to do to be scummy or what scum palmar is like that's sort of an unreasonable question. Post why palmar is scummy I'll tel you if I agree sorry if you already did and I missed it.

Superbia could be afk I have no way of knowing. i do know that he disappeared after I inherited his pressure.

No it isn't. You say you don't consider Palmar because he hasn't been scummy. But what is that?

Is Palmar being actually scummy scummy?
Is Palmar not being scummy scummy?

Like... Why do you remove Palmar from your potential mafia list.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 19:57 GMT
#1189
On October 06 2016 04:56 Calix wrote:
Koshi, you'd do a lot better to just ask "what reasons do you have to town-read Palmar?"

Save the waffling.

That's what I am doing lol
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 20:00 GMT
#1192
On October 06 2016 04:58 Calix wrote:
I'm still not convinced on Palmar even though he just turned up and has done nothing.

He doesn't seem to give a shit that he's at risk of being lynched at all.

Why is that town Palmar?

Why not mafia Palmar rolling the dice?
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 20:06 GMT
#1196
On October 06 2016 05:02 Calix wrote:
What do you mean by 'rolling the dice'?

I would have thought that mafia would at least TRY to defend themselves.

Instead he just turns up, says that Superbia is an 'optional lynch' (whatever the fuck that means) and sticks with his stupid scum-read on me.

He is mafia rolling the dice on town being fucking retarded.

Really. How is not wanting to live townie? You think Town Palmar gets lynched all the time?

Last time I saw Palmar this apathetic was when I was mafia with him.

Even when the votes were 7-7 or something he didn't care.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 20:07 GMT
#1199
On October 06 2016 05:06 Calix wrote:
By the way, I am also biased a little bit by meta because he tried to defend himself when I was in a game with him as scum and it was a really half-arsed defense against some incriminating evidence.

So the fact that he's not even bothering against a wagon this weak makes me inclined to think he's either town or is having a seriously bad case of scum fatigue.

Only two explanations imo and given my other points, I think town.

HOW DOES THAT FUCKING WORK? HOW???
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 20:07 GMT
#1200
Show me a game in which he gets fucking lynched without trying to do anything.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 20:08 GMT
#1202
Nha mafia is within the town leaders again. This is not normal.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 20:09 GMT
#1203
Not town leaders. "vets"
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 20:09 GMT
#1204
There hasn't been any pressure on anybody this game. Not even me and I was gone for like 40 hours
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 20:13 GMT
#1210
On October 06 2016 05:09 Calix wrote:
What isn't normal?

The lack of smart posts from smart players.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 20:13 GMT
#1212
On October 06 2016 05:12 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 05:09 Koshi wrote:
There hasn't been any pressure on anybody this game. Not even me and I was gone for like 40 hours


U lie i pressurez lots

Maybe.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 20:14 GMT
#1216
On October 06 2016 05:13 Holyflare wrote:
I still wouldn't be surprised if marv was mafia. I am confused why koshi rolled over when he returned and said calox was mafia-y

What did I do?
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 20:16 GMT
#1223
On October 06 2016 05:15 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I did not like Bats' recent defense. What I read was a deflection on Calix and a JAS defense. The dude never even stated he was town.

I agree. It was really bad.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 20:16 GMT
#1226
On October 06 2016 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 05:14 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 05:13 Holyflare wrote:
I still wouldn't be surprised if marv was mafia. I am confused why koshi rolled over when he returned and said calox was mafia-y

What did I do?


You said my push on calix was bad and looked mafia orientated.

Marv comes back and agrees with push and you didn't say shit.

Well. I accepted it.
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 20:24 GMT
#1238
Can we at least make Palmar the leading wagon?
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 20:27 GMT
#1242
On October 06 2016 05:27 Superbia wrote:
Yo I played divinity w gf all day and gonna sleep now. Im town so plz no lyncherino etc. I have time tomo bc the gf will be home late

Vote Palmar
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 20:36 GMT
#1253
On October 06 2016 05:35 Calix wrote:
It still bothers me how many counterwagons to batsnacks we can get in a single day.

What?
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Koshi
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October 05 2016 21:07 GMT
#1310
Knew it. Always when I know somebody is town you lynch him anyway. Fucked up bullshit tbh.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 08:35 GMT
#1352
I still think we should lynch Palmar asap.
Also will reread the first part of the game when I find the time.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 10:15 GMT
#1368
Ok. marv can be mafia.
I might have started this game entirely wrong.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 11:24 GMT
#1374
On October 06 2016 19:32 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 19:15 Koshi wrote:
Ok. marv can be mafia.
I might have started this game entirely wrong.

I think you should generally assume that.

Hilarious.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 11:28 GMT
#1379
On October 06 2016 20:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 06:17 Palmar wrote:
check marv, he was wrong on a townie sounding guy.

maybe shoot him, who cares.

Palmar would never say this about me as town. ever.

Newsflash. You aren't looking town at all.
Why not shoot you?
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 11:46 GMT
#1401
On October 06 2016 20:34 Holyflare wrote:
Why would mafia palmar not vote to save himself?

This is a really bad argument and you need to stop pushing it in the thread. He did the axect same thing in Star Wars mafia. I was mafia with him and the votes were 7-7 and he didn't vote to save himself. I think he eventually voted 1 minute after the deadline but got saved because the other guy reached 7 first.

Like... He did this as mafia before.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 11:53 GMT
#1410
On October 06 2016 20:47 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 20:46 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 20:34 Holyflare wrote:
Why would mafia palmar not vote to save himself?

This is a really bad argument and you need to stop pushing it in the thread. He did the axect same thing in Star Wars mafia. I was mafia with him and the votes were 7-7 and he didn't vote to save himself. I think he eventually voted 1 minute after the deadline but got saved because the other guy reached 7 first.

Like... He did this as mafia before.

You could have saved me a lot of typing by posting this earlier

Weren't you all in the game though? JAT for sure. I think you as well. For sure.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 11:55 GMT
#1411
Ok it wasn't Star Wars. It was another game.
Hmm I know I was playing snooker on D1 lynch.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 11:57 GMT
#1413
http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/mafia/503495-star-wars-the-mafia-awaken-voting-thread?page=3

Oh it was Star wars after all.

Look at it. It was 8-6 and he only got saved because JAT the baddie also changed his vote. But I am sure it was super super close.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 12:11 GMT
#1422
Hmm. Shooting Stutters is not the worst idea though. Lynching Palmar and shooting Stutters is better than the other way around.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 12:12 GMT
#1423
Shoot Stutters. Lynch Palmar.
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October 06 2016 12:12 GMT
#1424
Check somebody like Damdred. Maybe Calix/Grack.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 12:14 GMT
#1426
On October 06 2016 21:13 Holyflare wrote:
Didn't someone say pre game we lose a mislynch if we shoot wrong?

Only if there is no doc / veteran save.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 12:17 GMT
#1429
Hmm. apparently there is no doc/vig setup anymore. It's always cop + something else random.
Still. If you shoot it should always be Stutters.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 12:18 GMT
#1430
If you are not afraid to die it probably is optimal to save shot and wait till N2 if Stutters is modkilled
Safest play to not lose a ml.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 12:19 GMT
#1431
Kinda dirty.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 12:19 GMT
#1432
Getting addicted to refreshing. Got to close browser lol.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 12:20 GMT
#1433
1 more thing. Out of marv/Palmar I would kill Palmar anyday everyday.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 15:02 GMT
#1514
On October 06 2016 23:28 Grackaroni wrote:
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On October 06 2016 23:27 Holyflare wrote:
I mean aren't we all full of prejudices that have been broken at some point?

I just haven't met any intelligent Americans yet.

Peekaboo!

Great answer to proof his statement. lol. Imagine it irl.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 15:57 GMT
#1560
I haven't read last 3 pages.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 17:41 GMT
#1632
On October 07 2016 02:01 Holyflare wrote:
I'm also feeling completely the opposite to your koshi read. He was perhaps one of my only town reads yesterday but his super strong town reads disappeared for no reason and they've flipped when seemingly momentum is gaining on their pushes (on you, marv etc)

He could and probably is likely town but he's definitely completely fallen off tonight enough for me to think he could be mafia again (null/town specifically), yes, even if I said I'd sheep him because that turned out to be a lie.

I am super busy and don't have the luxe (not the right word) to put this game into my mind. I have to actually use all my braincells currently at work and it shows. I did my best yesterday to give you the Town Koshi Experience.

Tomorrow I will go watch Belgium - Bosnia in the stadium and in the weekend I will be without computer access so this is going to get interesting.

Only fair I get some criticism though. I am surprised I am not getting more.

This morning I thought for a second that marv/Calix could both be mafia and then when I was in the thread with you and Palmar the feeling got stronger. But I read their filters (opened and skimmed) and saw the same posts I saw before so I don't believe it. Marv maybe, Calix nope.

I can follow the thread every 40ish minutes at work but can't do more than just read the posts and go back to work. Nothing really pings out to me anyway so I am not too bothered about posting a lot.

We still have at least 2 mlynches if Stutters doesn't get modkilled. If he gets modkilled we are probably in trouble for the last mafia but atm no need to panic.

That being said. Lynching Batsnacks was horrible and we should have always lynched Palmar. That's on all of you and excuses me from doing the dirty work. ty.


↑my current state of the game mentality.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 18:01 GMT
#1650
On October 07 2016 02:44 Calix wrote:
As a side note Koshi, the word you are probably looking for is "luxury"

Has anything else about Marv stood out to you?

Why would Stutters being modkilled 'probably put us in trouble'?

I don't know what you are asking about marv. My townread on him was based on the content of his posts only when I townread him and then the flip happened and based on that I flipped my read 180 degrees. While him being wrong should not be that impactful. Maybe a bit but not a full 180.

Stutters being modkilled is probably bad because 1) modkilled people flip town, that's simply life
+
2) we lose a ml (unless there is a vig) and then it's going to be a crappy 3 vs 1 lylo with biased people and the game is lost as well.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 18:20 GMT
#1662
On October 07 2016 03:05 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 03:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 02:44 Calix wrote:
As a side note Koshi, the word you are probably looking for is "luxury"

Has anything else about Marv stood out to you?

Why would Stutters being modkilled 'probably put us in trouble'?

I don't know what you are asking about marv. My townread on him was based on the content of his posts only when I townread him and then the flip happened and based on that I flipped my read 180 degrees. While him being wrong should not be that impactful. Maybe a bit but not a full 180.

Stutters being modkilled is probably bad because 1) modkilled people flip town, that's simply life
+
2) we lose a ml (unless there is a vig) and then it's going to be a crappy 3 vs 1 lylo with biased people and the game is lost as well.


One last question. Can you walk me through why your read flipped that much after batsnacks flipped town? If this is already explained elsewhere in your filter then just ignore this post.

Your Stutters comment stood out as you assumed he was flipping town but since you openly admit that with some reasoning (even if I find it weak and disagree), carry on.

It only flipped this morning after I slept because when I was going to work, I was considering who could be mafia if Palmar was not mafia, and I was thinking that would make you and marv most likely mafia. Marv for not caring at all about how we went towards EoD and putting batsnacks his name next to Palmars when he knew I was gunning for Palmar 100%. Making these 2 lynches the main wagons for sure.

You could be mafia for harddefending 1 townie like a tard while hard blindpushing another townie.

I even considered that nu was likely mafia with Palmar for voting his townread batsnacks over Palmar. (which is still a good consideration). But the guy posts so toxic I doubt he is mafia. Or if this is how he plays mafia I can only respect it. I can't do it like that.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 18:31 GMT
#1666
On October 07 2016 03:27 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 03:20 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 03:05 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 03:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 02:44 Calix wrote:
As a side note Koshi, the word you are probably looking for is "luxury"

Has anything else about Marv stood out to you?

Why would Stutters being modkilled 'probably put us in trouble'?

I don't know what you are asking about marv. My townread on him was based on the content of his posts only when I townread him and then the flip happened and based on that I flipped my read 180 degrees. While him being wrong should not be that impactful. Maybe a bit but not a full 180.

Stutters being modkilled is probably bad because 1) modkilled people flip town, that's simply life
+
2) we lose a ml (unless there is a vig) and then it's going to be a crappy 3 vs 1 lylo with biased people and the game is lost as well.


One last question. Can you walk me through why your read flipped that much after batsnacks flipped town? If this is already explained elsewhere in your filter then just ignore this post.

Your Stutters comment stood out as you assumed he was flipping town but since you openly admit that with some reasoning (even if I find it weak and disagree), carry on.

It only flipped this morning after I slept because when I was going to work, I was considering who could be mafia if Palmar was not mafia, and I was thinking that would make you and marv most likely mafia. Marv for not caring at all about how we went towards EoD and putting batsnacks his name next to Palmars when he knew I was gunning for Palmar 100%. Making these 2 lynches the main wagons for sure.

You could be mafia for harddefending 1 townie like a tard while hard blindpushing another townie.

I even considered that nu was likely mafia with Palmar for voting his townread batsnacks over Palmar. (which is still a good consideration). But the guy posts so toxic I doubt he is mafia. Or if this is how he plays mafia I can only respect it. I can't do it like that.


Who did she harddefend?

My posts are not toxic :c

The way I play mafia is by getting lynched. If I am not lynched I am not mafia.

Palmar.

They are. But Calix is ok with it so I don't care. I prefer playing this way. But I got banned for a lot less. Or warned. Probably both.

Cool. So we can't ml you tomorrow?
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 21:13 GMT
#1730
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Lynch Palmar. I was threatening to nobody but him this night. If I die he is 100% confirmed mafia. 100%. Vote him and lynch mafia. I promise.


↑Was going to post that right before EoD. I was late.

Oh well.

##vote Palmar
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 21:22 GMT
#1740
On October 07 2016 06:15 marvellosity wrote:
why even vote palmar koshi?

you know you're going to end up scumreading me in about 24-36 hours and do something else anyway

Don't know why you are trying to influence what I will do. If you are planning on being super obvious mafia in 36 hours I will indeed push you.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 21:25 GMT
#1744
On October 07 2016 06:23 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 07 2016 06:22 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 06:15 marvellosity wrote:
why even vote palmar koshi?

you know you're going to end up scumreading me in about 24-36 hours and do something else anyway

Don't know why you are trying to influence what I will do. If you are planning on being super obvious mafia in 36 hours I will indeed push you.

i'm super obvious mafia to you in about 95% games i'm town when we play together, so yes, i am planning on being super obvious mafia to you.

lol. I am pretty sure that that isn't true. I just had a period in which I liked to annoy you a bit. innocently for shit and giggles.
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Koshi
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October 06 2016 21:48 GMT
#1764
On October 07 2016 06:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:
To add to marv's points on Plam - Plamar said that I should have been modkilled day 1 for trying to abuse the game mechanics. This would only favor mafia.

That's his one post that made me think he is mafia.

Pretty sure that this is NAI but keep let's keep piling on!
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 07:53 GMT
#1853
On October 07 2016 12:23 scott31337 wrote:
Koshi - Carefree Koshi, leaning town for now.
Calix - He hates it when I put him in the tinfoil town pile, so I'll do it again.
marvellosity - town, pretty confident of - if he got mafia again he'd be all mopey and shit
Palmar - Null/Leaning Scum - Trying to coast, doesn't give much for info. (Lynch Calix)
justanothertownie - leaning scum, he's doing the not getting info/shitposting JAT - which is a mafia trait for him.
Damdred-slight townlean/almost null - very little to go on.
NeverUnlucky - town, probably #2 - lots of info, somewhat helpful.
Oatsmaster - townlean - points out some inconstistencies in posts that I've seen
Superbia - Uggg - kind of like last game - not very helpful - null
Grackaroni - like last game too but nothing of help/doing/etc.

That's where I'm at now - Lynch Palmar/JAT preferred, Poke Super and Grack some more.

Can you explain these 2 townreads better?
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 07:59 GMT
#1854
On October 07 2016 13:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Writing a case for Damdred is harder than I thought.

There's the point that Bats made of Damdred primarily making a reads dump and very little questioning, which seems uncharacteristic.

I think a case could also be made that he's only willing to scum read weaker players that won't give him too much trouble. He mentioned HF in his initial reads post and backed off that very quickly.

Primarily I'm going to go with, "I have a lot of town reads and the feels are reals." Can you disprove my feels, Damdred?

Bats getting so much heat and little support also points towards Damdred mafia. The guy who gets lynched D1 often sits on mafia. I like it.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 10:33 GMT
#1933
On October 07 2016 17:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On October 07 2016 16:59 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 13:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Writing a case for Damdred is harder than I thought.

There's the point that Bats made of Damdred primarily making a reads dump and very little questioning, which seems uncharacteristic.

I think a case could also be made that he's only willing to scum read weaker players that won't give him too much trouble. He mentioned HF in his initial reads post and backed off that very quickly.

Primarily I'm going to go with, "I have a lot of town reads and the feels are reals." Can you disprove my feels, Damdred?

Bats getting so much heat and little support also points towards Damdred mafia. The guy who gets lynched D1 often sits on mafia. I like it.

What do you mean by the last sentence?

That it wouldn't be the first time that somebody who pushes a mafia read D1 gets lynched.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 10:40 GMT
#1935
On October 07 2016 18:46 Palmar wrote:
It jives rather well with what I've been thinking about this game.

Batsnacks sounded like a townie
Oats sounds like a townie
NU sounds like a special snowflake
Grack is not as funny as I would've thought he should be, but I do like him nonetheless, for now.

Superbia is being an ass, but he does that all the time as all alignments, don't think he's been overtly scummy. One of the big milestones today is going to be whether or not he realizes what is up. If he doesn't, he needs to be dropped very low on everyone's lists when I flip town. Superbia is smart, knows me well, and a good player in general. If he votes for me when I'm town, that's super concerning.

Damdred and Stutters are players I have completely ignored.

Marv is going to drop his vote on me. If he actually stays he's 100% mafia. He reads me better than any player in the history of TL mafia, he has basically a 100% rate on figuring my alignment by day 2 when he's town. If I ever flip town, and he is still calling me mafia, he is scum. there is NO WAY AROUND IT. Thing is, I also know that he knows exactly this. He CAN'T be wrong on me, so I know he's going to end up drop his vote on me today. Depending on whether I believe the reasoning there's a tiny chance I'm wrong. But the NK, his play, his lack of enthusiasm for some things and just some tonally weird things, all point to marv-mafia. Not to mention, both HF and I picked up a townie vibe from batsnacks, and marv completely failed to recognize it. He is better at town than both of us, and that is super concerning.

JAT/Koshi/Calix <--- Three strong players who have been atrociously wrong throughout the game. There is definitely town in this group, probably even two. Whichever ones of you are town need to pull head out of asses and start playing reasonably. It is very likely that one of the townies is Koshi, because him tunneling stupid things is kind of what he does as town, the other two are slightly better so who knows.

Regarding Calix specifically, my day 1 read of her is mostly tonal. She felt very analytical and willing to try to solve the game when she was town in the last game I was with her. This contrasts her more timid and reserved tone here. I am also slightly suspicious of how she could read me so well on day 1 (against all odds she was calling me town) and then dropped it with some complete bullshit reasoning on n1, that is worrying.

I like how people are only mafia after you flip. It's your only argument. Fearmongering at its best.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 10:42 GMT
#1936
On October 07 2016 19:36 Palmar wrote:
We're lynching JAT koshi, get with the times.

I am looking forward to be covered in your town ooze in the previous 2 pages.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 10:47 GMT
#1940
On October 07 2016 19:16 Palmar wrote:
Btw, you can call me nostradamus later, but here's what's going to happen today:

I'm going to rally some people to my side. Some stragglers and tunnelers are going to remain on the other side.

Marv is going to rescind his scumread on me and scite my posting today, but he's going to look for another easy lynch

JAT is going to be the alternative wagon, it should be marv, but it's easier to convince people to lynch JAT

I'm not going to be around tomorrow to drive the wagon, so the thread will be taken over by mafia.

In some fit of confusion, we're going to end up lynching some low hanging afk fruit, like stutters, damdred, grack. That person is 100% going to flip town and everyone will be mad.

Don't worry. We are going to lynch into JAT/marv/Palmar.
Koshi pinkie promise.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 10:50 GMT
#1942
On October 07 2016 19:19 Palmar wrote:
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On October 07 2016 19:16 Palmar wrote:
Btw, you can call me nostradamus later, but here's what's going to happen today:

I'm going to rally some people to my side. Some stragglers and tunnelers are going to remain on the other side.

Marv is going to rescind his scumread on me and scite my posting today, but he's going to look for another easy lynch

JAT is going to be the alternative wagon, it should be marv, but it's easier to convince people to lynch JAT

I'm not going to be around tomorrow to drive the wagon, so the thread will be taken over by mafia.

In some fit of confusion, we're going to end up lynching some low hanging afk fruit, like stutters, damdred, grack. That person is 100% going to flip town and everyone will be mad.


The only way to avoid this, is if someone else, (Calix? Superbia?) takes the mantle of leadership and whips this town into shape. It's going to be really tough, but it's what needs to be done.

I feel insulted somehow;
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 10:57 GMT
#1947
On October 07 2016 19:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On October 07 2016 19:33 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 17:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2016 16:59 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 13:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Writing a case for Damdred is harder than I thought.

There's the point that Bats made of Damdred primarily making a reads dump and very little questioning, which seems uncharacteristic.

I think a case could also be made that he's only willing to scum read weaker players that won't give him too much trouble. He mentioned HF in his initial reads post and backed off that very quickly.

Primarily I'm going to go with, "I have a lot of town reads and the feels are reals." Can you disprove my feels, Damdred?

Bats getting so much heat and little support also points towards Damdred mafia. The guy who gets lynched D1 often sits on mafia. I like it.

What do you mean by the last sentence?

That it wouldn't be the first time that somebody who pushes a mafia read D1 gets lynched.

still not following.

It's ok Oats. Don't worry.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 11:01 GMT
#1949
On October 07 2016 08:59 Grackaroni wrote:
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On October 07 2016 08:57 Palmar wrote:
On October 07 2016 08:34 Calix wrote:
In other news, Palmar continues to be a complete shitter.

This is false, I've given a ton of great reads.

Go do something so that I don't seem like I have tmi when I defend you.


On October 07 2016 12:48 Grackaroni wrote:
My thought going into the day was that HF would be the kill and town reads are solidifying themselves, so now you're seeing the "thinks he's super smart" variant of Grackaroni. This Grackaroni will probably disappear around the time Palmar flips scum but until then you're stuck with him.

Can you tell me what changed here? 4 hours between posts but no other posts.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 11:08 GMT
#1953
On October 07 2016 20:04 Grackaroni wrote:
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On October 07 2016 20:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 08:59 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 08:57 Palmar wrote:
On October 07 2016 08:34 Calix wrote:
In other news, Palmar continues to be a complete shitter.

This is false, I've given a ton of great reads.

Go do something so that I don't seem like I have tmi when I defend you.


On October 07 2016 12:48 Grackaroni wrote:
My thought going into the day was that HF would be the kill and town reads are solidifying themselves, so now you're seeing the "thinks he's super smart" variant of Grackaroni. This Grackaroni will probably disappear around the time Palmar flips scum but until then you're stuck with him.

Can you tell me what changed here? 4 hours between posts but no other posts.

That was just the most likely thing to cause a Grackaroni variant change.

That is a shitty answer.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 11:13 GMT
#1959
On October 07 2016 20:10 Grackaroni wrote:
What I was saying was that I was going to be smug until something happens that shows that I'm actually a retard.

Ok. Now I understand what you meant. Really odd to write it that way.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 11:14 GMT
#1960
On October 07 2016 20:08 Superbia wrote:
Who called me vs JAT SvS again? That person is mafia if JAT is mafia.

That was Grack. Doubt they are mafia together.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 11:14 GMT
#1962
On the other hand. Grack busses superhard and supercold.
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October 07 2016 11:15 GMT
#1963
@ marv. Can you please look closer to JAT. or Palmar. But preferably JAT.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 11:17 GMT
#1968
On October 07 2016 20:16 Superbia wrote:
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On October 07 2016 20:15 marvellosity wrote:
okay I kinda see Superbia. I'm asking Palmar to explain my motivation for my actions in the scenario I outlined.

That's not a defence, that's me wanting to know if he has a reasonable explanation.



Read his stuff and then call him mafia or town plox.

This. Make it really simple for the simple souls pls.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 11:22 GMT
#1976
On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
So, those are the people I would not be willing to lynch today as of now:

Koshi: There is no point in wasting my time on him. When he comes back he is either normal town Koshi or you lynch him. Pretty straight forward.

Marv: Not 100 % town but he has done enough typical stuff that I won't even entertain lynching him.

nu: Not gonna lie - his play since the very active start has been less than subpar. But he has that gamey shit going for him which almost always comes from town.

These I wouldn't lynch without a good case (which has to come between now and like 30 minutes later because I will be gone):

Palmar: If you want to lynch him you need to get the wagon going way earlier. You can never know his alignment before he is forced to actually play the damn game. He is really underwhelming though and his aimless rambling earlier did not feel very palmarlike.

Holyflare: Always hard to tell with him and like I said his push on me was really opportunistic and bad. Shitflingy if you want. But I think a mafia HF wouldn't have stopped going after me this easily once he had already started to. Felt like he actively avoided an unnecessary shitfight which I do not think scum HF would do. If he suddenly turns against me again when I am gone he is probably mafia.

Damdred: His presence is severely lacking and batsnacks is right when he says that there was very little damdy questioning going on. But I really liked his perspective on the game when he arrived. It mirrored my own quite well.

Oats: Made an easy thowaway scumread against me and then didn't care about me at all anymore (I might be biased but that seems quite disinterested to me). Some really bad logic that I pointed out but I guess thats par for the course for him. Really really forgettable though.

I could lynch (roughly in order from worst to best lynch):


Stutters: If this was an open setup with a vig I would be against lynching him but we don't know that. Maybe it still would be optimal to wait for a night and see if he gets shot by a vigilante before getting rid of him by a lynch but if you for some reason need to shennany onto someone eod he is a good target.

Calix: At first I was really sold by the fearless and aggressive way she plays but I have to remember that she is only new to this site and apparently a decent scumplayer. If you have that in mind then there are several problems with her play. Starting from the way she treated nu in the beginning despite him apparently being the easiest read in the world up to the total brainfart she made when asked about her grack read.

batsnacks: This is not the batsnacks I know. I don't know if it is mafia batsnacks but he is very different. Incomprehensible defense of Superbia because "being afraid makes no sense as mafia". But he has really been digging himself a hole all game if he is mafia. Besides the superbia read there is also his accusation against me (mafia for encouraging anti-town behaviour) which is so poor and weak that it is almost comical. Why does mafia batsnacks try to attack me like that? It is so pointless. Really horrible politician posts though...

Superbia: Refuses to play the game. Agressive/hostile tone fit his scummeta perfectly. Nowhere to be seen all day today.

Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.


meh. Nothing in here makes me want to sheep him. Nothing stands out except maybe the Grack read. I like that one.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 11:23 GMT
#1979
On October 07 2016 20:22 Grackaroni wrote:
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On October 07 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
On the other hand. Grack busses superhard and supercold.

I don't think I'm that heavy of a busser. The last game was just me hedging on Tumblewood and then jumping on the wagon once it looked like he was getting lynched.

It only ended up looking super silly like that because when we were one vote away a string of people refused to lynch Tumblewood.

Nope. That was a supercold buss. No lies = thx.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 11:26 GMT
#1981
On October 07 2016 20:18 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 07 2016 20:17 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:16 Superbia wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:15 marvellosity wrote:
okay I kinda see Superbia. I'm asking Palmar to explain my motivation for my actions in the scenario I outlined.

That's not a defence, that's me wanting to know if he has a reasonable explanation.



Read his stuff and then call him mafia or town plox.

This. Make it really simple for the simple souls pls.

You know the reason I have a great record reading / lynching Palmar is because I don't make premature calls on his alignment and actually take as much time as I need to figure him out?

how do you not get this?

Well......... Take your time. I am not in a hurry.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 11:33 GMT
#1986
On October 07 2016 20:28 Grackaroni wrote:
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On October 07 2016 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
So, those are the people I would not be willing to lynch today as of now:

Koshi: There is no point in wasting my time on him. When he comes back he is either normal town Koshi or you lynch him. Pretty straight forward.

Marv: Not 100 % town but he has done enough typical stuff that I won't even entertain lynching him.

nu: Not gonna lie - his play since the very active start has been less than subpar. But he has that gamey shit going for him which almost always comes from town.

These I wouldn't lynch without a good case (which has to come between now and like 30 minutes later because I will be gone):

Palmar: If you want to lynch him you need to get the wagon going way earlier. You can never know his alignment before he is forced to actually play the damn game. He is really underwhelming though and his aimless rambling earlier did not feel very palmarlike.

Holyflare: Always hard to tell with him and like I said his push on me was really opportunistic and bad. Shitflingy if you want. But I think a mafia HF wouldn't have stopped going after me this easily once he had already started to. Felt like he actively avoided an unnecessary shitfight which I do not think scum HF would do. If he suddenly turns against me again when I am gone he is probably mafia.

Damdred: His presence is severely lacking and batsnacks is right when he says that there was very little damdy questioning going on. But I really liked his perspective on the game when he arrived. It mirrored my own quite well.

Oats: Made an easy thowaway scumread against me and then didn't care about me at all anymore (I might be biased but that seems quite disinterested to me). Some really bad logic that I pointed out but I guess thats par for the course for him. Really really forgettable though.

I could lynch (roughly in order from worst to best lynch):


Stutters: If this was an open setup with a vig I would be against lynching him but we don't know that. Maybe it still would be optimal to wait for a night and see if he gets shot by a vigilante before getting rid of him by a lynch but if you for some reason need to shennany onto someone eod he is a good target.

Calix: At first I was really sold by the fearless and aggressive way she plays but I have to remember that she is only new to this site and apparently a decent scumplayer. If you have that in mind then there are several problems with her play. Starting from the way she treated nu in the beginning despite him apparently being the easiest read in the world up to the total brainfart she made when asked about her grack read.

batsnacks: This is not the batsnacks I know. I don't know if it is mafia batsnacks but he is very different. Incomprehensible defense of Superbia because "being afraid makes no sense as mafia". But he has really been digging himself a hole all game if he is mafia. Besides the superbia read there is also his accusation against me (mafia for encouraging anti-town behaviour) which is so poor and weak that it is almost comical. Why does mafia batsnacks try to attack me like that? It is so pointless. Really horrible politician posts though...

Superbia: Refuses to play the game. Agressive/hostile tone fit his scummeta perfectly. Nowhere to be seen all day today.

Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.


meh. Nothing in here makes me want to sheep him. Nothing stands out except maybe the Grack read. I like that one.

You called me obvious town around this point yesterday for doing exactly this. Jesus Koshi.

I was probably sleep deprived back then. I also don't recall that at all.
I do recall I thought you were town though. Somewhere.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 11:34 GMT
#1987
Well this Palmar / Marv fight was a letdown.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 11:45 GMT
#1989
On October 07 2016 20:35 Calix wrote:
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On October 07 2016 20:34 Koshi wrote:
Well this Palmar / Marv fight was a letdown.


Agreed. Not enough melodrama, 3/10.

Probably TvT though.

lol.
It's not because you always think that your preferred lynchtarget is 300% mafia that the other people in the game become town.
That's just bad math.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 12:01 GMT
#1995
On October 07 2016 20:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 20:33 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:28 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
So, those are the people I would not be willing to lynch today as of now:

Koshi: There is no point in wasting my time on him. When he comes back he is either normal town Koshi or you lynch him. Pretty straight forward.

Marv: Not 100 % town but he has done enough typical stuff that I won't even entertain lynching him.

nu: Not gonna lie - his play since the very active start has been less than subpar. But he has that gamey shit going for him which almost always comes from town.

These I wouldn't lynch without a good case (which has to come between now and like 30 minutes later because I will be gone):

Palmar: If you want to lynch him you need to get the wagon going way earlier. You can never know his alignment before he is forced to actually play the damn game. He is really underwhelming though and his aimless rambling earlier did not feel very palmarlike.

Holyflare: Always hard to tell with him and like I said his push on me was really opportunistic and bad. Shitflingy if you want. But I think a mafia HF wouldn't have stopped going after me this easily once he had already started to. Felt like he actively avoided an unnecessary shitfight which I do not think scum HF would do. If he suddenly turns against me again when I am gone he is probably mafia.

Damdred: His presence is severely lacking and batsnacks is right when he says that there was very little damdy questioning going on. But I really liked his perspective on the game when he arrived. It mirrored my own quite well.

Oats: Made an easy thowaway scumread against me and then didn't care about me at all anymore (I might be biased but that seems quite disinterested to me). Some really bad logic that I pointed out but I guess thats par for the course for him. Really really forgettable though.

I could lynch (roughly in order from worst to best lynch):


Stutters: If this was an open setup with a vig I would be against lynching him but we don't know that. Maybe it still would be optimal to wait for a night and see if he gets shot by a vigilante before getting rid of him by a lynch but if you for some reason need to shennany onto someone eod he is a good target.

Calix: At first I was really sold by the fearless and aggressive way she plays but I have to remember that she is only new to this site and apparently a decent scumplayer. If you have that in mind then there are several problems with her play. Starting from the way she treated nu in the beginning despite him apparently being the easiest read in the world up to the total brainfart she made when asked about her grack read.

batsnacks: This is not the batsnacks I know. I don't know if it is mafia batsnacks but he is very different. Incomprehensible defense of Superbia because "being afraid makes no sense as mafia". But he has really been digging himself a hole all game if he is mafia. Besides the superbia read there is also his accusation against me (mafia for encouraging anti-town behaviour) which is so poor and weak that it is almost comical. Why does mafia batsnacks try to attack me like that? It is so pointless. Really horrible politician posts though...

Superbia: Refuses to play the game. Agressive/hostile tone fit his scummeta perfectly. Nowhere to be seen all day today.

Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.


meh. Nothing in here makes me want to sheep him. Nothing stands out except maybe the Grack read. I like that one.

You called me obvious town around this point yesterday for doing exactly this. Jesus Koshi.

I was probably sleep deprived back then. I also don't recall that at all.
I do recall I thought you were town though. Somewhere.

Yeah I just checked you're in pretty deep here Koshi.

First you were arguing that I was bussing JAT. Now you're citing JAT's reasoning as a reason to scum read me without a connection to JAT when it's basically a summary of all the reasons you town read me to begin with.
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On October 06 2016 03:15 Koshi wrote:
Ohyeah I remember why Palmar is in my scumlist.
He wanted to kill both Calix and Grack in consecutive posts when they are obv town.

Now that I reread his filter he is 100% mafia on Calix the entire game. The guy is not this bad.

##vote Palmar


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On October 06 2016 04:19 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi, why is it you town read grack? I'm curious.

I had a +1 after his name after I did the read up. I don't know what post it exactly was. I think it was for going against the stream and pushing the Calix town read? That being said. He and rels owned my ass superhard last time so I should be still very careful.

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On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.


Those are 2 completely different instances. The reason I called you town in the first quote was because you went against some people pushing your reads. Now I am saying that JAT reason to scumread you is the most sheepable of all his reads.

You put those together and call it deep shit? lol
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 12:03 GMT
#1996
I also never argued you are bussing JAT. I just said the fucking opposite. Superbia said you were bussing JAT. (without knowing it was you)

I just said that you are a filthy busser. And proofed it with last game in which you bussed. Which you somehow fucking disputes while it is 100000% true.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 12:07 GMT
#1997
On October 07 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
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On October 07 2016 20:08 Superbia wrote:
Who called me vs JAT SvS again? That person is mafia if JAT is mafia.

That was Grack. Doubt they are mafia together.


On October 07 2016 20:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 20:33 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:28 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
So, those are the people I would not be willing to lynch today as of now:

Koshi: There is no point in wasting my time on him. When he comes back he is either normal town Koshi or you lynch him. Pretty straight forward.

Marv: Not 100 % town but he has done enough typical stuff that I won't even entertain lynching him.

nu: Not gonna lie - his play since the very active start has been less than subpar. But he has that gamey shit going for him which almost always comes from town.

These I wouldn't lynch without a good case (which has to come between now and like 30 minutes later because I will be gone):

Palmar: If you want to lynch him you need to get the wagon going way earlier. You can never know his alignment before he is forced to actually play the damn game. He is really underwhelming though and his aimless rambling earlier did not feel very palmarlike.

Holyflare: Always hard to tell with him and like I said his push on me was really opportunistic and bad. Shitflingy if you want. But I think a mafia HF wouldn't have stopped going after me this easily once he had already started to. Felt like he actively avoided an unnecessary shitfight which I do not think scum HF would do. If he suddenly turns against me again when I am gone he is probably mafia.

Damdred: His presence is severely lacking and batsnacks is right when he says that there was very little damdy questioning going on. But I really liked his perspective on the game when he arrived. It mirrored my own quite well.

Oats: Made an easy thowaway scumread against me and then didn't care about me at all anymore (I might be biased but that seems quite disinterested to me). Some really bad logic that I pointed out but I guess thats par for the course for him. Really really forgettable though.

I could lynch (roughly in order from worst to best lynch):


Stutters: If this was an open setup with a vig I would be against lynching him but we don't know that. Maybe it still would be optimal to wait for a night and see if he gets shot by a vigilante before getting rid of him by a lynch but if you for some reason need to shennany onto someone eod he is a good target.

Calix: At first I was really sold by the fearless and aggressive way she plays but I have to remember that she is only new to this site and apparently a decent scumplayer. If you have that in mind then there are several problems with her play. Starting from the way she treated nu in the beginning despite him apparently being the easiest read in the world up to the total brainfart she made when asked about her grack read.

batsnacks: This is not the batsnacks I know. I don't know if it is mafia batsnacks but he is very different. Incomprehensible defense of Superbia because "being afraid makes no sense as mafia". But he has really been digging himself a hole all game if he is mafia. Besides the superbia read there is also his accusation against me (mafia for encouraging anti-town behaviour) which is so poor and weak that it is almost comical. Why does mafia batsnacks try to attack me like that? It is so pointless. Really horrible politician posts though...

Superbia: Refuses to play the game. Agressive/hostile tone fit his scummeta perfectly. Nowhere to be seen all day today.

Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.


meh. Nothing in here makes me want to sheep him. Nothing stands out except maybe the Grack read. I like that one.

You called me obvious town around this point yesterday for doing exactly this. Jesus Koshi.

I was probably sleep deprived back then. I also don't recall that at all.
I do recall I thought you were town though. Somewhere.

Yeah I just checked you're in pretty deep here Koshi.

First you were arguing that I was bussing JAT. Now you're citing JAT's reasoning as a reason to scum read me without a connection to JAT when it's basically a summary of all the reasons you town read me to begin with.
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2016 03:15 Koshi wrote:
Ohyeah I remember why Palmar is in my scumlist.
He wanted to kill both Calix and Grack in consecutive posts when they are obv town.

Now that I reread his filter he is 100% mafia on Calix the entire game. The guy is not this bad.

##vote Palmar


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On October 06 2016 04:19 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi, why is it you town read grack? I'm curious.

I had a +1 after his name after I did the read up. I don't know what post it exactly was. I think it was for going against the stream and pushing the Calix town read? That being said. He and rels owned my ass superhard last time so I should be still very careful.

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On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.



100% lies and slander. Welcome to the bottom of the list.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 12:10 GMT
#2000
On October 07 2016 21:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 21:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:47 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:33 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:28 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
So, those are the people I would not be willing to lynch today as of now:

Koshi: There is no point in wasting my time on him. When he comes back he is either normal town Koshi or you lynch him. Pretty straight forward.

Marv: Not 100 % town but he has done enough typical stuff that I won't even entertain lynching him.

nu: Not gonna lie - his play since the very active start has been less than subpar. But he has that gamey shit going for him which almost always comes from town.

These I wouldn't lynch without a good case (which has to come between now and like 30 minutes later because I will be gone):

Palmar: If you want to lynch him you need to get the wagon going way earlier. You can never know his alignment before he is forced to actually play the damn game. He is really underwhelming though and his aimless rambling earlier did not feel very palmarlike.

Holyflare: Always hard to tell with him and like I said his push on me was really opportunistic and bad. Shitflingy if you want. But I think a mafia HF wouldn't have stopped going after me this easily once he had already started to. Felt like he actively avoided an unnecessary shitfight which I do not think scum HF would do. If he suddenly turns against me again when I am gone he is probably mafia.

Damdred: His presence is severely lacking and batsnacks is right when he says that there was very little damdy questioning going on. But I really liked his perspective on the game when he arrived. It mirrored my own quite well.

Oats: Made an easy thowaway scumread against me and then didn't care about me at all anymore (I might be biased but that seems quite disinterested to me). Some really bad logic that I pointed out but I guess thats par for the course for him. Really really forgettable though.

I could lynch (roughly in order from worst to best lynch):


Stutters: If this was an open setup with a vig I would be against lynching him but we don't know that. Maybe it still would be optimal to wait for a night and see if he gets shot by a vigilante before getting rid of him by a lynch but if you for some reason need to shennany onto someone eod he is a good target.

Calix: At first I was really sold by the fearless and aggressive way she plays but I have to remember that she is only new to this site and apparently a decent scumplayer. If you have that in mind then there are several problems with her play. Starting from the way she treated nu in the beginning despite him apparently being the easiest read in the world up to the total brainfart she made when asked about her grack read.

batsnacks: This is not the batsnacks I know. I don't know if it is mafia batsnacks but he is very different. Incomprehensible defense of Superbia because "being afraid makes no sense as mafia". But he has really been digging himself a hole all game if he is mafia. Besides the superbia read there is also his accusation against me (mafia for encouraging anti-town behaviour) which is so poor and weak that it is almost comical. Why does mafia batsnacks try to attack me like that? It is so pointless. Really horrible politician posts though...

Superbia: Refuses to play the game. Agressive/hostile tone fit his scummeta perfectly. Nowhere to be seen all day today.

Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.


meh. Nothing in here makes me want to sheep him. Nothing stands out except maybe the Grack read. I like that one.

You called me obvious town around this point yesterday for doing exactly this. Jesus Koshi.

I was probably sleep deprived back then. I also don't recall that at all.
I do recall I thought you were town though. Somewhere.

Yeah I just checked you're in pretty deep here Koshi.

First you were arguing that I was bussing JAT. Now you're citing JAT's reasoning as a reason to scum read me without a connection to JAT when it's basically a summary of all the reasons you town read me to begin with.
On October 06 2016 03:15 Koshi wrote:
Ohyeah I remember why Palmar is in my scumlist.
He wanted to kill both Calix and Grack in consecutive posts when they are obv town.

Now that I reread his filter he is 100% mafia on Calix the entire game. The guy is not this bad.

##vote Palmar


On October 06 2016 04:19 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi, why is it you town read grack? I'm curious.

I had a +1 after his name after I did the read up. I don't know what post it exactly was. I think it was for going against the stream and pushing the Calix town read? That being said. He and rels owned my ass superhard last time so I should be still very careful.

On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.


Those are 2 completely different instances. The reason I called you town in the first quote was because you went against some people pushing your reads. Now I am saying that JAT reason to scumread you is the most sheepable of all his reads.

You put those together and call it deep shit? lol

Yes when you read JAT's "sheepable reasons" the complete opposite way only the day before. You were one of the people who targeted JAT while he wasn't there. You town read me for defending Calix.

Yes and? What?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 12:11 GMT
#2002
On October 07 2016 21:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:08 Superbia wrote:
Who called me vs JAT SvS again? That person is mafia if JAT is mafia.

That was Grack. Doubt they are mafia together.

Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
On the other hand. Grack busses superhard and supercold.

Lol yeah you never suggested that. Must be lies.

The fact that I doubt you are mafia with JAT is my read this game.

The fact that you buss is my experience with you in past games.


How is the second one more important than the first one?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 12:19 GMT
#2006
On October 07 2016 21:13 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 21:10 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:47 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:33 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:28 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
So, those are the people I would not be willing to lynch today as of now:

Koshi: There is no point in wasting my time on him. When he comes back he is either normal town Koshi or you lynch him. Pretty straight forward.

Marv: Not 100 % town but he has done enough typical stuff that I won't even entertain lynching him.

nu: Not gonna lie - his play since the very active start has been less than subpar. But he has that gamey shit going for him which almost always comes from town.

These I wouldn't lynch without a good case (which has to come between now and like 30 minutes later because I will be gone):

Palmar: If you want to lynch him you need to get the wagon going way earlier. You can never know his alignment before he is forced to actually play the damn game. He is really underwhelming though and his aimless rambling earlier did not feel very palmarlike.

Holyflare: Always hard to tell with him and like I said his push on me was really opportunistic and bad. Shitflingy if you want. But I think a mafia HF wouldn't have stopped going after me this easily once he had already started to. Felt like he actively avoided an unnecessary shitfight which I do not think scum HF would do. If he suddenly turns against me again when I am gone he is probably mafia.

Damdred: His presence is severely lacking and batsnacks is right when he says that there was very little damdy questioning going on. But I really liked his perspective on the game when he arrived. It mirrored my own quite well.

Oats: Made an easy thowaway scumread against me and then didn't care about me at all anymore (I might be biased but that seems quite disinterested to me). Some really bad logic that I pointed out but I guess thats par for the course for him. Really really forgettable though.

I could lynch (roughly in order from worst to best lynch):


Stutters: If this was an open setup with a vig I would be against lynching him but we don't know that. Maybe it still would be optimal to wait for a night and see if he gets shot by a vigilante before getting rid of him by a lynch but if you for some reason need to shennany onto someone eod he is a good target.

Calix: At first I was really sold by the fearless and aggressive way she plays but I have to remember that she is only new to this site and apparently a decent scumplayer. If you have that in mind then there are several problems with her play. Starting from the way she treated nu in the beginning despite him apparently being the easiest read in the world up to the total brainfart she made when asked about her grack read.

batsnacks: This is not the batsnacks I know. I don't know if it is mafia batsnacks but he is very different. Incomprehensible defense of Superbia because "being afraid makes no sense as mafia". But he has really been digging himself a hole all game if he is mafia. Besides the superbia read there is also his accusation against me (mafia for encouraging anti-town behaviour) which is so poor and weak that it is almost comical. Why does mafia batsnacks try to attack me like that? It is so pointless. Really horrible politician posts though...

Superbia: Refuses to play the game. Agressive/hostile tone fit his scummeta perfectly. Nowhere to be seen all day today.

Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.


meh. Nothing in here makes me want to sheep him. Nothing stands out except maybe the Grack read. I like that one.

You called me obvious town around this point yesterday for doing exactly this. Jesus Koshi.

I was probably sleep deprived back then. I also don't recall that at all.
I do recall I thought you were town though. Somewhere.

Yeah I just checked you're in pretty deep here Koshi.

First you were arguing that I was bussing JAT. Now you're citing JAT's reasoning as a reason to scum read me without a connection to JAT when it's basically a summary of all the reasons you town read me to begin with.
On October 06 2016 03:15 Koshi wrote:
Ohyeah I remember why Palmar is in my scumlist.
He wanted to kill both Calix and Grack in consecutive posts when they are obv town.

Now that I reread his filter he is 100% mafia on Calix the entire game. The guy is not this bad.

##vote Palmar


On October 06 2016 04:19 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi, why is it you town read grack? I'm curious.

I had a +1 after his name after I did the read up. I don't know what post it exactly was. I think it was for going against the stream and pushing the Calix town read? That being said. He and rels owned my ass superhard last time so I should be still very careful.

On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.


Those are 2 completely different instances. The reason I called you town in the first quote was because you went against some people pushing your reads. Now I am saying that JAT reason to scumread you is the most sheepable of all his reads.

You put those together and call it deep shit? lol

Yes when you read JAT's "sheepable reasons" the complete opposite way only the day before. You were one of the people who targeted JAT while he wasn't there. You town read me for defending Calix.

Yes and? What?

It seems pretty self explanatory to me. Now that Palmar is off the lynch block you're looking for a backup and you're using some reasoning you couldn't possibly agree with to try to support killing me.

I am not doing that at all. Not at fucking all. marv/JAT/Palmar and if a back up is needed I am thinking Damdred/Scott. Never did I want to go to you.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 12:23 GMT
#2007
On October 07 2016 21:15 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 21:11 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:09 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:08 Superbia wrote:
Who called me vs JAT SvS again? That person is mafia if JAT is mafia.

That was Grack. Doubt they are mafia together.

On October 07 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
On the other hand. Grack busses superhard and supercold.

Lol yeah you never suggested that. Must be lies.

The fact that I doubt you are mafia with JAT is my read this game.

The fact that you buss is my experience with you in past games.


How is the second one more important than the first one?

Here's what you are saying:
"He's not mafia with JAT"
"Actually he's a massive busser"
Am I supposed to interpret this as, "hey i just had a thought! He could be bussing Oatsmaster!"

stfu pls. That's not how you should interpret that. Clearly I added it to give full information. Not to make you a backup to JAT. That doesn't even make sense.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 07 2016 12:36 GMT
#2012
On October 07 2016 21:23 Grackaroni wrote:
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On October 07 2016 21:19 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:13 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:10 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:47 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:33 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:28 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:22 Koshi wrote:
[quote]
meh. Nothing in here makes me want to sheep him. Nothing stands out except maybe the Grack read. I like that one.

You called me obvious town around this point yesterday for doing exactly this. Jesus Koshi.

I was probably sleep deprived back then. I also don't recall that at all.
I do recall I thought you were town though. Somewhere.

Yeah I just checked you're in pretty deep here Koshi.

First you were arguing that I was bussing JAT. Now you're citing JAT's reasoning as a reason to scum read me without a connection to JAT when it's basically a summary of all the reasons you town read me to begin with.
On October 06 2016 03:15 Koshi wrote:
Ohyeah I remember why Palmar is in my scumlist.
He wanted to kill both Calix and Grack in consecutive posts when they are obv town.

Now that I reread his filter he is 100% mafia on Calix the entire game. The guy is not this bad.

##vote Palmar


On October 06 2016 04:19 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi, why is it you town read grack? I'm curious.

I had a +1 after his name after I did the read up. I don't know what post it exactly was. I think it was for going against the stream and pushing the Calix town read? That being said. He and rels owned my ass superhard last time so I should be still very careful.

On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.


Those are 2 completely different instances. The reason I called you town in the first quote was because you went against some people pushing your reads. Now I am saying that JAT reason to scumread you is the most sheepable of all his reads.

You put those together and call it deep shit? lol

Yes when you read JAT's "sheepable reasons" the complete opposite way only the day before. You were one of the people who targeted JAT while he wasn't there. You town read me for defending Calix.

Yes and? What?

It seems pretty self explanatory to me. Now that Palmar is off the lynch block you're looking for a backup and you're using some reasoning you couldn't possibly agree with to try to support killing me.

I am not doing that at all. Not at fucking all. marv/JAT/Palmar and if a back up is needed I am thinking Damdred/Scott. Never did I want to go to you.

I don't see how I am supposed to interpret this other you calling me scum.
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On October 07 2016 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
So, those are the people I would not be willing to lynch today as of now:

Koshi: There is no point in wasting my time on him. When he comes back he is either normal town Koshi or you lynch him. Pretty straight forward.

Marv: Not 100 % town but he has done enough typical stuff that I won't even entertain lynching him.

nu: Not gonna lie - his play since the very active start has been less than subpar. But he has that gamey shit going for him which almost always comes from town.

These I wouldn't lynch without a good case (which has to come between now and like 30 minutes later because I will be gone):

Palmar: If you want to lynch him you need to get the wagon going way earlier. You can never know his alignment before he is forced to actually play the damn game. He is really underwhelming though and his aimless rambling earlier did not feel very palmarlike.

Holyflare: Always hard to tell with him and like I said his push on me was really opportunistic and bad. Shitflingy if you want. But I think a mafia HF wouldn't have stopped going after me this easily once he had already started to. Felt like he actively avoided an unnecessary shitfight which I do not think scum HF would do. If he suddenly turns against me again when I am gone he is probably mafia.

Damdred: His presence is severely lacking and batsnacks is right when he says that there was very little damdy questioning going on. But I really liked his perspective on the game when he arrived. It mirrored my own quite well.

Oats: Made an easy thowaway scumread against me and then didn't care about me at all anymore (I might be biased but that seems quite disinterested to me). Some really bad logic that I pointed out but I guess thats par for the course for him. Really really forgettable though.

I could lynch (roughly in order from worst to best lynch):


Stutters: If this was an open setup with a vig I would be against lynching him but we don't know that. Maybe it still would be optimal to wait for a night and see if he gets shot by a vigilante before getting rid of him by a lynch but if you for some reason need to shennany onto someone eod he is a good target.

Calix: At first I was really sold by the fearless and aggressive way she plays but I have to remember that she is only new to this site and apparently a decent scumplayer. If you have that in mind then there are several problems with her play. Starting from the way she treated nu in the beginning despite him apparently being the easiest read in the world up to the total brainfart she made when asked about her grack read.

batsnacks: This is not the batsnacks I know. I don't know if it is mafia batsnacks but he is very different. Incomprehensible defense of Superbia because "being afraid makes no sense as mafia". But he has really been digging himself a hole all game if he is mafia. Besides the superbia read there is also his accusation against me (mafia for encouraging anti-town behaviour) which is so poor and weak that it is almost comical. Why does mafia batsnacks try to attack me like that? It is so pointless. Really horrible politician posts though...

Superbia: Refuses to play the game. Agressive/hostile tone fit his scummeta perfectly. Nowhere to be seen all day today.

Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.


meh. Nothing in here makes me want to sheep him. Nothing stands out except maybe the Grack read. I like that one.

I meant: Out of the 5 scumreads he posted there I liked yours the most. But this doesn't mean that I sheeped that read instantly.

And the more I look at those 5 scumreads the more I really hate the other 4. Yours is just not horrible.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 14:04 GMT
#2028
On October 07 2016 21:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On October 07 2016 21:51 Superbia wrote:
I walk a certain road and I generally don't care if people are walking before or behind me. As long as people are walking in similar direction.


There's a long road ahead. You do not want to be alone at night. You must choose a faction to live on.

Besides, I have been supporting the Dutch football team since 2010 and am an EDM zealot. You will find yourself home in Gracktopia. NU promise.

RIP Dutch football team after the next 2 games. 1/6.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 14:06 GMT
#2030
On October 07 2016 23:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On October 07 2016 23:04 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:51 Superbia wrote:
I walk a certain road and I generally don't care if people are walking before or behind me. As long as people are walking in similar direction.


There's a long road ahead. You do not want to be alone at night. You must choose a faction to live on.

Besides, I have been supporting the Dutch football team since 2010 and am an EDM zealot. You will find yourself home in Gracktopia. NU promise.

RIP Dutch football team after the next 2 games. 1/6.

hey dude are you ever gonna decide who you read as scum?

Try reading the thread dude.
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Koshi
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October 07 2016 14:06 GMT
#2031
On October 07 2016 21:19 Koshi wrote:
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On October 07 2016 21:13 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:10 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 21:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:47 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:33 Koshi wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:28 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 07 2016 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
So, those are the people I would not be willing to lynch today as of now:

Koshi: There is no point in wasting my time on him. When he comes back he is either normal town Koshi or you lynch him. Pretty straight forward.

Marv: Not 100 % town but he has done enough typical stuff that I won't even entertain lynching him.

nu: Not gonna lie - his play since the very active start has been less than subpar. But he has that gamey shit going for him which almost always comes from town.

These I wouldn't lynch without a good case (which has to come between now and like 30 minutes later because I will be gone):

Palmar: If you want to lynch him you need to get the wagon going way earlier. You can never know his alignment before he is forced to actually play the damn game. He is really underwhelming though and his aimless rambling earlier did not feel very palmarlike.

Holyflare: Always hard to tell with him and like I said his push on me was really opportunistic and bad. Shitflingy if you want. But I think a mafia HF wouldn't have stopped going after me this easily once he had already started to. Felt like he actively avoided an unnecessary shitfight which I do not think scum HF would do. If he suddenly turns against me again when I am gone he is probably mafia.

Damdred: His presence is severely lacking and batsnacks is right when he says that there was very little damdy questioning going on. But I really liked his perspective on the game when he arrived. It mirrored my own quite well.

Oats: Made an easy thowaway scumread against me and then didn't care about me at all anymore (I might be biased but that seems quite disinterested to me). Some really bad logic that I pointed out but I guess thats par for the course for him. Really really forgettable though.

I could lynch (roughly in order from worst to best lynch):


Stutters: If this was an open setup with a vig I would be against lynching him but we don't know that. Maybe it still would be optimal to wait for a night and see if he gets shot by a vigilante before getting rid of him by a lynch but if you for some reason need to shennany onto someone eod he is a good target.

Calix: At first I was really sold by the fearless and aggressive way she plays but I have to remember that she is only new to this site and apparently a decent scumplayer. If you have that in mind then there are several problems with her play. Starting from the way she treated nu in the beginning despite him apparently being the easiest read in the world up to the total brainfart she made when asked about her grack read.

batsnacks: This is not the batsnacks I know. I don't know if it is mafia batsnacks but he is very different. Incomprehensible defense of Superbia because "being afraid makes no sense as mafia". But he has really been digging himself a hole all game if he is mafia. Besides the superbia read there is also his accusation against me (mafia for encouraging anti-town behaviour) which is so poor and weak that it is almost comical. Why does mafia batsnacks try to attack me like that? It is so pointless. Really horrible politician posts though...

Superbia: Refuses to play the game. Agressive/hostile tone fit his scummeta perfectly. Nowhere to be seen all day today.

Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.


meh. Nothing in here makes me want to sheep him. Nothing stands out except maybe the Grack read. I like that one.

You called me obvious town around this point yesterday for doing exactly this. Jesus Koshi.

I was probably sleep deprived back then. I also don't recall that at all.
I do recall I thought you were town though. Somewhere.

Yeah I just checked you're in pretty deep here Koshi.

First you were arguing that I was bussing JAT. Now you're citing JAT's reasoning as a reason to scum read me without a connection to JAT when it's basically a summary of all the reasons you town read me to begin with.
On October 06 2016 03:15 Koshi wrote:
Ohyeah I remember why Palmar is in my scumlist.
He wanted to kill both Calix and Grack in consecutive posts when they are obv town.

Now that I reread his filter he is 100% mafia on Calix the entire game. The guy is not this bad.

##vote Palmar


On October 06 2016 04:19 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2016 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi, why is it you town read grack? I'm curious.

I had a +1 after his name after I did the read up. I don't know what post it exactly was. I think it was for going against the stream and pushing the Calix town read? That being said. He and rels owned my ass superhard last time so I should be still very careful.

On October 06 2016 02:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Grackaroni:
Made a case against me immediately when 1-2 people suddenly started suspecting me when I was gone yesterday. A really lazy and factual problematic case as I have explained lately. He also just harddefended Calix without even knowing what the problem was with her posting. Otherwise he is just existing in this game without doing much.


Those are 2 completely different instances. The reason I called you town in the first quote was because you went against some people pushing your reads. Now I am saying that JAT reason to scumread you is the most sheepable of all his reads.

You put those together and call it deep shit? lol

Yes when you read JAT's "sheepable reasons" the complete opposite way only the day before. You were one of the people who targeted JAT while he wasn't there. You town read me for defending Calix.

Yes and? What?

It seems pretty self explanatory to me. Now that Palmar is off the lynch block you're looking for a backup and you're using some reasoning you couldn't possibly agree with to try to support killing me.

I am not doing that at all. Not at fucking all. marv/JAT/Palmar and if a back up is needed I am thinking Damdred/Scott. Never did I want to go to you.

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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2016 22:16 GMT
#2174
Belgium 4 - 0 Bosnia
ggwp

I'll read the thread tomorrow. gn.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 08 2016 13:56 GMT
#2220
↓ shitty post that explains nothing. Why did you push Calix over the entire day? Saying she is obvious town now doesn't explain why you thought she was mafia back then. Reading your filter there is not 1 single reason.
On October 08 2016 05:14 Palmar wrote:
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On October 08 2016 04:02 marvellosity wrote:
i wish you guys had just gone along with me more on the palmar thing, because he had a half hour flurry of decent posts and now he's coasting on it because everyone went 'oooh that looked nice'. it's so dull

it isn't dull, it's correct.

You lack confidence, that points to you being mafia, but fuck it let's pretend you're not for a little bit for the sake of moving the game forward.

By lack of confidence, I mean your ridiculous emphasis on getting me to answer some completely tangential questions you have no need for to determine my alignment.

But if you must, the explanation is very simple. I wasn't very much around, I didn't think bats was scum and I'm not mafia. I tried to push for a Calix lynch, which I've now decided was retarded. At the deadline I was mad and only barely paying attention to the thread. I did explain my reasoning for voting HF, but in hindsight I was just being a moron and failed to catch what is a fairly obvious joke. I got mad and voted him.

Essentially, I got trolled.

Of course he started posting like a townie and making sense again, so I came around, also realizing that I was just being stupid. Someone said during that time that HF was scummy for pulling the "it was just a joke" defense, but whatever.


This is all wifom. Being able to convince a couple people you are town isn't hard. It's called buddying which you did while jumping on the Grack train running at JAT. Which was extremely opportunistic and lucky because it excused you from going after marv which you were waffling towards back then.
On October 08 2016 05:18 Palmar wrote:
Like think of it from my point of view marv.

Let's assume you're town. From your point of view, you're afraid that I'm fooling all the peasants, but you and jat remain steadfast. I get it, you don't want to be one of the morons I just fooled.

But look at at it from my point of view. To me, I know I'm town, and I've just convinced a bunch of people I am town, to the point where some of them seem fairly convinced. Sure, some of them may be TMI, but all can't be. So do you not understand why it concerns me that the guy who is more often right on me than anyone else fails to do what people who know me far worse have done easily.

I am being completely reasonable here.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 08 2016 14:08 GMT
#2221
I strongly believe we should lynch Palmar. His main and only objective is to sit right above not getting lynched. He hasn't given any believable reasoning for any scumread. Not once. look at it + Show Spoiler +
On October 07 2016 18:46 Palmar wrote:
It jives rather well with what I've been thinking about this game.

Batsnacks sounded like a townie
Oats sounds like a townie
NU sounds like a special snowflake
Grack is not as funny as I would've thought he should be, but I do like him nonetheless, for now.

Superbia is being an ass, but he does that all the time as all alignments, don't think he's been overtly scummy. One of the big milestones today is going to be whether or not he realizes what is up. If he doesn't, he needs to be dropped very low on everyone's lists when I flip town. Superbia is smart, knows me well, and a good player in general. If he votes for me when I'm town, that's super concerning.

Damdred and Stutters are players I have completely ignored.

Marv is going to drop his vote on me. If he actually stays he's 100% mafia. He reads me better than any player in the history of TL mafia, he has basically a 100% rate on figuring my alignment by day 2 when he's town. If I ever flip town, and he is still calling me mafia, he is scum. there is NO WAY AROUND IT. Thing is, I also know that he knows exactly this. He CAN'T be wrong on me, so I know he's going to end up drop his vote on me today. Depending on whether I believe the reasoning there's a tiny chance I'm wrong. But the NK, his play, his lack of enthusiasm for some things and just some tonally weird things, all point to marv-mafia. Not to mention, both HF and I picked up a townie vibe from batsnacks, and marv completely failed to recognize it. He is better at town than both of us, and that is super concerning.

JAT/Koshi/Calix <--- Three strong players who have been atrociously wrong throughout the game. There is definitely town in this group, probably even two. Whichever ones of you are town need to pull head out of asses and start playing reasonably. It is very likely that one of the townies is Koshi, because him tunneling stupid things is kind of what he does as town, the other two are slightly better so who knows.

Regarding Calix specifically, my day 1 read of her is mostly tonal. She felt very analytical and willing to try to solve the game when she was town in the last game I was with her. This contrasts her more timid and reserved tone here. I am also slightly suspicious of how she could read me so well on day 1 (against all odds she was calling me town) and then dropped it with some complete bullshit reasoning on n1, that is worrying.

.
Not a single actual reason to scumread anybody. Something intelligent.

Last 3 pages are filled with wifom and little jabs at people. I don't know why he does that as mafia. But it is 100% NAI. Like... Why do you townread him for that?

His last scumlist was marv/damdred/JAT. But marv is the person he wants to convince the most he is town. Damdred he fully ignores. JAT scumread earned him 2-3 townreads.

Where are the authentic reads? There is nothing. He is just playing right above not getting lynched.

And we should lynch him.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 08 2016 14:11 GMT
#2222
superbia is mafia as well.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 08 2016 14:13 GMT
#2223
I am limited to phoneposting from now on for 28ish hours. Will be reading thread on phone. afk for 2 hours.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 08 2016 16:17 GMT
#2236
On October 08 2016 23:59 Palmar wrote:
Wow I go afk and the narrative changes... who would've thought??

It is pretty much the same except nu voted you.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 08 2016 17:36 GMT
#2251
Not the worst case. Palmar has a bigger chance to flip mafia though. 101% chance to be precise.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 08 2016 19:27 GMT
#2308
Why did I say superbia was mafia? Goddamn... let's just lynch Palmar please.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 08 2016 20:40 GMT
#2339
I have no problem with this lynch. I kinda just really want to flip Palmar. Superbia I could see be town somehow. While Palmar is again not lynched.after a full day doing nothing. Palmar is a sure bet on mafia.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 08 2016 20:44 GMT
#2340
Ohyeah lynch in 15 mins already. I forgot. So all gone?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 08 2016 20:51 GMT
#2348
On October 09 2016 05:46 Palmar wrote:
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On October 09 2016 05:40 Koshi wrote:
I have no problem with this lynch. I kinda just really want to flip Palmar. Superbia I could see be town somehow. While Palmar is again not lynched.after a full day doing nothing. Palmar is a sure bet on mafia.

Probably mafia at this point. Koshi

It's hilarious you are again not lynched. Wp. Town is full retarded.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 08 2016 20:53 GMT
#2350
Superbia is better mafia with you fml. I guess it is still possible with these votes.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 09 2016 14:19 GMT
#2548
On October 09 2016 20:04 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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On October 09 2016 20:02 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 09 2016 20:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 09 2016 19:20 Calix wrote:
Palmar and Scott FTW.

Do you have anything else about your JAT read? I'm not so convinced there.

Palmar is town, Jat is scum. Remember the scum diversions you were talking about? Yeah, that's JAT.

Explain.

Unless Palmar is Godfather, he is town.

And my case for you will come later in the day, you need not worry.

I am a rolecop and had a gf check last night.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 09 2016 14:21 GMT
#2550
On October 09 2016 20:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On October 09 2016 19:26 Calix wrote:
Either way, Palmar/ Scott should die tomorrow while the rest pans itself out. Sound like a plan?

deffo scott for now.
the jat thing is super cool but it rests on people flipping

Why are you townreading Palmar?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 09 2016 14:22 GMT
#2552
On October 09 2016 21:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On October 09 2016 20:54 Calix wrote:
Do you have any reason for wanting to lynch Scott first? lol

hes idependantly scummy, also what a retarded vote on damdred then the super sheep onto super.

Pretty sure nobody has real reasons for scott to be mafia.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 09 2016 14:27 GMT
#2554
On October 09 2016 22:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On October 09 2016 22:18 Calix wrote:
If Oats' next post does not do the following:

A) Explain why he's scum-reading JAT

B) Explain his read on Palmar

C) Actually push the game forward

then there had better be some god-tier explanation.

Girl plz.

Palmar is hardcore just popping in, posting some stuff about the game that makes some sense then peacing out. His behavior around the lynch was really weird with him here
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On October 09 2016 04:16 Palmar wrote:
Regarding superbia. Lynching him isnt the worst idea

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On October 09 2016 05:47 Palmar wrote:
Superbia is gonna flip town.

Scum team is a combination of JAT koshi Marv Scott damdred

I mean like what the fuck man.

there isnt much to say about scott cause its so obvious.

Jat shit is in here come on man, im just quoting your filter.
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On October 05 2016 16:27 Calix wrote:
Not quotes but JAT has a lot of posts where he says "XYZ is behaving normally for them" or asking a question and then not going anywhere with them.

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On October 05 2016 00:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 05 2016 00:41 Calix wrote:
Also if anyone wants to comment on batsnacks' filter so far then knock yourself out.

0 problems with his filter so far. Generally town batsnacks doesn't give a fuck/is very sassy/self-confident while scum batsnacks tends to blend in immediately.
Not really conclusive since I think he was improving his game the last time I saw him as mafia but I wouldn't lynch him right now.


Here JAT's response is to characterise batsnacks as 'sassy and self-confident' (implying that these are accurate words to describe his filter).

He also notes that batsnacks had been 'improving his scum game' - an odd thing to note on someone that you claim to have 'no problems' with so far.

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On October 05 2016 01:19 justanothertownie wrote:
I still maintain that I do not have a particular problem with his filter but I retract my confidence.


This doesn't make sense. He didn't have much confidence in his read to begin with (i.e., the comment about an improved mafia game) and how does one lose confidence without seeing a problem with the filter?

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On October 05 2016 01:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 05 2016 01:19 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 01:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 05 2016 01:11 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 00:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 05 2016 00:41 Calix wrote:
Also if anyone wants to comment on batsnacks' filter so far then knock yourself out.

0 problems with his filter so far. Generally town batsnacks doesn't give a fuck/is very sassy/self-confident while scum batsnacks tends to blend in immediately.
Not really conclusive since I think he was improving his game the last time I saw him as mafia but I wouldn't lynch him right now.


Eh?

I didn't get the impression that he was being that sassy or whatnot.

In fact, his filter is one that I'd characterise as "trying to blend in" so I don't relate to your impression of him. I don't have a 'case' per se but my impression of him is that he's popping in to make comments which sound okay by themselves but add up to a poor filter.

Namely he has a few pre-flip association theories which don't tell us much about where he actually stands on the players as individuals.

#266 pinged me because he doesn't really SAY anything in it. He waffles around, seemingly contemplating the possibility of scum!Calix, and then concludes null on NU/ myself (although he says that NU 'gives him town vibes'?) and his argument is "if they're TvT then it would be more obvious since they seem to know each other well"

#334 and #399 read like he's throwing shade on everyone in the NU/ Calix/ HF debacle. He throws up ideas where we could all be scum at certain points...but we have NO idea of where he actually stands.

This is lazy but I think he's a good candidate for scum atm.

On October 05 2016 00:55 batsnacks wrote:
On October 05 2016 00:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 05 2016 00:26 Calix wrote:
On October 05 2016 00:14 batsnacks wrote:
Calix said that there was no specific evidence she could produce for NU abusing PMs as Mafia, even though she implied NU did this as Mafia before
Holyflare said "produce evidence or die"

Those events happened in that order. Maybe Mafia Holyflare knowingly issued Calix an impossible task to make the narrative for Calix being Mafia stronger? Anyway that's what I was thinking hopefully it makes sense.


Quote the posts please. I explicitly said that I had no specific evidence after HF's last post iirc.

On another note, Palmar is underwhelming as fuck so far. Wouldn't mind policy-lynching him.


No, this post was not against you. It was against HF. Read snacks's post again. It's about HF being aware that what he is asking you is impossible for you to deliver, thus making you appear mafia.

offski

Yeah this is also effective if holyflare is town though so I guess it depends whether or not town Holyflare thinks Calix is Mafia.

Holyflare wasn't wrong about anything he said it just seemed like a pretty dramatic way to be right. Calix wrote it off st the time as Holyflare being a dramatic person, I would probably be more concerned about it in her position.


HF is a dramatic person though? You're not actually faulting HF's arguments, you're just faulting his confidence which he can do as any alignment. (aka it's null) No idea why you're hung up on this.

Also how is your point 'effective' if your original point had HF as scum? I don't understand.

Actually there is less of that stuff in his filter than I remembered. But there are still quite a few posts I would label as typical town bats posts. Maybe I didn't use the correct words to describe the tone:
On October 04 2016 07:24 batsnacks wrote:
Just a scummy pop in post nothing to see here.

On October 04 2016 21:45 batsnacks wrote:
lol someone said "Power Wolf" that sounds like a sex thing

On October 04 2016 22:40 batsnacks wrote:
Also check out this skit I'm imagining

Mafia Calix goes after Mafia NU for dumb PM BS
People are town reading Mafia NU, Mafia Calix is going in too hard and getting heat
They buddy up and everything is suddenly fine after almost 24 hours of Calix scum reading NU for NAI reasons

Pretty good right?




First two look like typical shit-posts to me.

Third one is one of the reasons why I'm suspecting him.

So not terribly convinced here but I'll see.

The quality of the content doesn't necessarily correlate with the overall usefullness of a post to get a read. Those ARE shitposts. But in my experience town batsnacks is more likely to make shitposts like that. If you want to judge him on content you will have a bad time if he is town.


Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 05 2016 01:23 Calix wrote:
I'm not bothered about his shit-posts; they don't factor into the main issues I have with him.

I just don't think they warrant a town-read unless you're saying that he's one of those types who is more serious as scum.

He is definitely one of thise types.


And on the heels of losing his confidence, he makes these two posts:

Soft-ball defense of batsnacks using his shit-posting, arguing that this shows batsnacks is less serious and thus is likely town.

His last post says that batsnacks is "definitely" one of the types to be more serious as scum. This is an odd shift in confidence from "having retracted [his confidence]" to now being sure that batsnacks acts in a certain way as scum.

On October 07 2016 19:01 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2016 18:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 07 2016 18:54 Palmar wrote:
On October 07 2016 18:52 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 07 2016 18:50 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 18:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 07 2016 18:31 Palmar wrote:
On October 07 2016 17:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
anyone who tries to give reasons to lynch palmar is clearly not reading the thread because there is nothing new that can be added to the stuff already said about palmar.


This guy is my hero

If you flip town we should probably lynch him for tmi.


Eww gross post.

On October 07 2016 18:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 07 2016 17:42 Calix wrote:
On October 07 2016 17:08 justanothertownie wrote:
I disagree that the calix/nu thing was obviously TvT btw. calix had a comparatively passive role in it. Which I can't fault her for but I don't think the whole thing makes her town at all.


This is Grade A bullshit.

You're telling me that actively posing a question and accusing someone based on that and tunneling is 'comparatively passive'?

If that's passive then your posts are worthy of the Pulitzer prize.

"Comparatively" as in "compared to nu".

Yes, you did that stuff and I never said the whole thing makes you mafia. I just feel the general procedure of the argument was nu berating you (never really understood why he felt the need to do it since apparently you are "obvious town" to him) while you just went along with the shitshow. I just don't think that makes you town.


Eww another gross post.

Why would me being "passive compared to NU" mean anything? You're not actually accusing me of being passive in general, so your comment is meaningless.

You're not accusing me of being mafia. You just FELT the need to make a comment saying that I'm less townie than NU...but you don't think it makes me scum so again, this comment is meaningless.

What the fuck was the point? All you said was "Calix is less townie than NU" but you don't think I'm mafia either so it looks like you just posted some bullshit for the sake of posting it.

The point was very simple. People (oats I think) called your shitfight obviously TvT. I disagree with that - this should not be a reason to townread you.


It was 100% a TvT, go away

Says the guy who did not list calix as town in his list.

Can you explain how I have been "atrociously wrong" all game? You cannot seriously fault anyone for scumreading you, even if you are town.


This is so bad. Doesn't read like JAT is scum-hunting at all.

On October 08 2016 17:11 Calix wrote:
I still think JAT is the scummiest player in the thread. As flagged up earlier, I get the impression that he just pops in to make leading comments that serve the mafia agenda. It's a Saturday morning so no harm in me reading his filter now.

And I think the other two are among you, Damdred, Superbia because I think the majority of the scum are passive/ lack influence.

You could add Palmar/ Koshi but I think those two are town.

jat has posted absolutely no content whatsoever, its disgusting how little shit is in his 10 page filter.


Ok so Oats is mafia. Good stuff.
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October 09 2016 14:42 GMT
#2562
On October 09 2016 22:43 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2016 22:35 Calix wrote:
Yes, doing shit is generally a good thing.

'arbitrarily better' ???

I thought Palmar's responses were okay until Koshi pointed out the flaws in them. You also agreed with this assessment.


I agreed with koshi's points on Palmar just like I agreed with jat's points on Super. Despite agreeing with them, I did not scum-read either.

I pretty much voted Superbia because I agreed with jat's case even though I did not scum-read Super. I regret that.

Arbitrarily better because jat's got no town tone and never proposed that his lynch was a ML nor that he was town.

No words...
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 14:45 GMT
#2565
Hmm I forgot how scott played last game but I believe he was at least consistent. So yeah. Could be mafia.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 14:50 GMT
#2567
On October 09 2016 23:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2016 22:43 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 09 2016 22:35 Calix wrote:
Yes, doing shit is generally a good thing.

'arbitrarily better' ???

I thought Palmar's responses were okay until Koshi pointed out the flaws in them. You also agreed with this assessment.


I agreed with koshi's points on Palmar just like I agreed with jat's points on Super. Despite agreeing with them, I did not scum-read either.

I pretty much voted Superbia because I agreed with jat's case even though I did not scum-read Super. I regret that.

Arbitrarily better because jat's got no town tone and never proposed that his lynch was a ML nor that he was town.

No words...

Really just look at those 3 paragraphs. Mind = blown
In a bad way
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 15:00 GMT
#2573
On October 09 2016 23:55 Calix wrote:
brb, going to filter-dive for Grack's attitude about the lynches. Koshi can do Palmar since he loves him so much

Palmar thought they were all town before they got lynched. I dont need to filterdive.

D1 he tried to get hf lynched after sitting all day on you.
D2 he popped in but did nothing.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 15:07 GMT
#2577
On October 10 2016 00:00 Calix wrote:
Actually yeah, that approach is considerably more efficient.

So we're concluding that the town did the usual thing of eating each other?

D1 there is a big chance on all town on Palmar and mafia on batsnacks. Palmar was here to swap to batsnacks if needed. Grack is only ? There.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 15:08 GMT
#2578
Just lynch Palmar tomorrow and we can pull this back. Free mafia lynch.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 18:45 GMT
#2630
On October 10 2016 01:46 Palmar wrote:
Fuck you koshi

Eat dick Palmar.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 18:54 GMT
#2631
I have to admit it is strange marv has not came online for over 24h now. I don't think that has ever happened before.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 18:57 GMT
#2632
Mafia team is within Oats/Palmar/Scott/Damdred. I would say Grack is mafia but probably not. Just pretending to be. Or maybe he is. Who knows?
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 19:03 GMT
#2634
Damdred being scum is based on nothing actually. I am ok with his filter. So Palmar/Scott/Oats remain.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 19:06 GMT
#2636
On October 10 2016 04:04 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 04:03 Koshi wrote:
Damdred being scum is based on nothing actually. I am ok with his filter. So Palmar/Scott/Oats remain.

What do you dislike from Scott's filter?

I asked him a question and he dodged me. Other than that last game he was very consistent and stayed really connected to the thread as town. Here he is doing the opposite.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 19:06 GMT
#2637
Did you make your case on me already? Or did you realize you misread my post?
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October 09 2016 19:09 GMT
#2639
On October 10 2016 04:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 04:06 Koshi wrote:
Did you make your case on me already? Or did you realize you misread my post?

Not yet. I haven't misread anything. I'm just not sure whether trying to get people to lynch you tomorrow is a good idea when Palmar is so sure that Marv is mafia.

Well. You are wrong.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 19:10 GMT
#2641
On October 10 2016 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 04:09 Koshi wrote:
On October 10 2016 04:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 10 2016 04:06 Koshi wrote:
Did you make your case on me already? Or did you realize you misread my post?

Not yet. I haven't misread anything. I'm just not sure whether trying to get people to lynch you tomorrow is a good idea when Palmar is so sure that Marv is mafia.

Well. You are wrong.

How can you be so sure? Maybe I'm just pretending to be mafia.

Maybe you are. But Palmar/Grack mafia is not something I believe in.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 19:17 GMT
#2643
On October 10 2016 04:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 04:10 Koshi wrote:
On October 10 2016 04:10 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 10 2016 04:09 Koshi wrote:
On October 10 2016 04:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 10 2016 04:06 Koshi wrote:
Did you make your case on me already? Or did you realize you misread my post?

Not yet. I haven't misread anything. I'm just not sure whether trying to get people to lynch you tomorrow is a good idea when Palmar is so sure that Marv is mafia.

Well. You are wrong.

How can you be so sure? Maybe I'm just pretending to be mafia.

Maybe you are. But Palmar/Grack mafia is not something I believe in.

Me neither.

btw if you really really want to make a case. I suggest you make one on marv.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 19:33 GMT
#2651
There was a time in which I thought it was possible that JAT/Palmar/marv were a scumteam.

JAT currently got 16 pages of filter and nothing in there makes me believe he is mafia. Like.. The worst post he made was downplaying some townreads 50 pages back. Since then.. Clean.

Marv I don't know. But I am not going to lynch him over Palmar at this point. Marv actually played the game and his first 20 posts were all really good. I could make a list but I don't see the point. I would always lynch Palmar first.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 19:36 GMT
#2653
On October 10 2016 04:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Actually there seems to be quite a few Koshi contradictions right now. There's also the flailing from when I pushed him that I will go into later.

Maybe you should stop repeating that shit and proof it.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 19:36 GMT
#2655
marv got misslynched recently? damn. Didn't know that.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 19:37 GMT
#2656
On October 10 2016 04:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 04:36 Koshi wrote:
On October 10 2016 04:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Actually there seems to be quite a few Koshi contradictions right now. There's also the flailing from when I pushed him that I will go into later.

Maybe you should stop repeating that shit and proof it.

Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 04:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Actually there seems to be quite a few Koshi contradictions right now. There's also the flailing from when I pushed him that I will go into later.

Hilarious. Still. Not. True. Though.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 19:41 GMT
#2659
On October 10 2016 04:39 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 04:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 10 2016 04:31 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 10 2016 04:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Grack, do you realize that marv was mislynched by palmar (and myself to be honest) in his last game?

No. Which game was this?

The same game where the superbia stuff came from. Holyflare mafia.

If that didn't happen I would have probably lynched him already but it makes me very hesitant to call him mafia when his tone and content was alright while he was around.

Has Marv ever been caught as mafia for having a strange tone? Content has also been completely absent this game.

I caught him once but it was in the observer chat.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 19:43 GMT
#2661
Dnu why you people have to be so difficult. Just lynch Palmar. There is no way in hell he flips town.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 20:50 GMT
#2708
Palmar/Oats/Scott/Damdred

Lynch Palmar first.

I don't think Grack is mafia. Just really really wrong.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 20:50 GMT
#2709
On October 10 2016 05:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 05:43 Calix wrote:
Also vaguely annoyed that I lack the skill to sort through Damdred/ Scott/ Grack/ Palmar/ Oats any more than I have.


I'm more disappointed that the game did not turn out the way I expected it to between me being retarded and shitposting, Palmar, Marv and Koshi not having the time to play, Superbia having the time to play but prefering to be a shitter, and two slots being empty. :/

Yeah I am sorry. Oktober is the only busy month for me.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 09 2016 21:08 GMT
#2721
Fuck that is a really odd kill.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 09 2016 21:12 GMT
#2727
So did Palmar kill his only supporter?
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 21:26 GMT
#2740
On October 10 2016 06:24 Calix wrote:
Legit question. Where do we go from here?

I don't really know how to operate given that everyone seems to have whack reads right now.

will read Grack filter soon.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 21:39 GMT
#2752
On October 10 2016 02:06 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2016 23:45 Calix wrote:
Question. How involved have Palmar/ Grack/ Oats been in the mislynches?

Stutters/ Scott has either been AFK or jumped on the bandwagon and the only person even remotely involved in the Superbia mislynch was Grack.

I think it'll be useful to note down what each of them did.

We could even divvy it up between us or some shit, lol.

This is incredibly rich. You have hard pushed all 3 flipped town so far. Mafia don't even need to be involved in anything because you are doing everything for them.

At least 2 are mafia from the Marv/JAT/Koshi group because they are reading the game incredibly wrong. One of them is being clueless. The other mafia is between Damdred/Scott.

Grack his reads. If we follow them mafia is marv/JAT/Damdred/Scott.

Which are the same reads I had except I have been mafia siding with JAT/Marv. That would be sad.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 21:39 GMT
#2753
Oh and Oats. Where is Oats?
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October 09 2016 21:40 GMT
#2755
On October 10 2016 02:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 02:07 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 10 2016 02:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I pretty much have to conclude that JAT is mafia at this point.

Why? Why do you "have to conclude that"?

Because now you're pushing Oatsmaster as well as Palmar and I'm pretty sure they are both town.

On October 10 2016 02:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 02:15 justanothertownie wrote:
And I can lynch scott easily for what calix brought up earlier combined with his extremely shallow reads.

Sounds good to me. But you've been pushing Oatsmaster recently for making verbal salad when Oatsmaster is known for doing this.

Townread on Oats. Pretty strong one. Meh.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 21:42 GMT
#2757
On October 10 2016 06:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 06:39 Koshi wrote:
On October 10 2016 02:06 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 09 2016 23:45 Calix wrote:
Question. How involved have Palmar/ Grack/ Oats been in the mislynches?

Stutters/ Scott has either been AFK or jumped on the bandwagon and the only person even remotely involved in the Superbia mislynch was Grack.

I think it'll be useful to note down what each of them did.

We could even divvy it up between us or some shit, lol.

This is incredibly rich. You have hard pushed all 3 flipped town so far. Mafia don't even need to be involved in anything because you are doing everything for them.

At least 2 are mafia from the Marv/JAT/Koshi group because they are reading the game incredibly wrong. One of them is being clueless. The other mafia is between Damdred/Scott.

Grack his reads. If we follow them mafia is marv/JAT/Damdred/Scott.

Which are the same reads I had except I have been mafia siding with JAT/Marv. That would be sad.

"I had the same reads as grack! Except for 3/5!"


wat

Well replacing you 2 with Palmar counts for 1 in my head.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 21:43 GMT
#2759
On October 10 2016 06:42 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 06:39 Koshi wrote:
Oh and Oats. Where is Oats?

You mean in Grack's reads or in thread activity?

If you're talking thread activity, he usually is online around 4AM and 1-3 PM UK time.

I meant in Grack his reads...
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 21:44 GMT
#2760
On October 10 2016 06:31 Damdred wrote:
Hello, I have given my excuses but would rather keep it out of thread because it is nai.

I'm way behind to make any rational thought provoking posts so here's to reading 9x pages and watch all my friends turn against me.

Glad to see you alive. Please play asap. We need your input.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 21:45 GMT
#2761
Also I feel like the cop should claim if he has a redcheck. Especially if it is Scott/Damdred/Oats
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 21:45 GMT
#2762
Hmmmmmm scratch that. Claim right before EoN3 or when we lynch a greencheck. DO NOT CLAIM YET.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 21:52 GMT
#2764
##vote Palmar

Convince me to vote JAT/marv. And I will listen. You can thank the Grackster.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 21:56 GMT
#2766
On October 10 2016 06:46 Calix wrote:
Cop should just try to get their red check lynched first and claim if it goes badly.

^^^much better idea.

Btw. If this is a subtle hint to lynch scott wink twice.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 09 2016 21:57 GMT
#2768
On October 10 2016 06:55 Palmar wrote:
Grack dies for believing.

HF died for believing

I KILL PEOPLE WHO ARE RIGHT AS MAFIA.

JESUS FUCK PEOPLE

Actually a good point to start the day. Pure WIFOM though.
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 21:59 GMT
#2770
Also 5 people believe you are mafia. 1 believes you are town. Not the worst idea to kill the 1. I think?
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Koshi
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October 09 2016 23:08 GMT
#2792
I don't know how far you are Damdred. But you are pretty defensive and aggressive for somebody who hasn't read the thread yet. Why?
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Koshi
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October 10 2016 12:36 GMT
#2824
I am pretty much busy for the entire day. Lots of work and soccer at 20h00.
Following the thread.
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Koshi
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October 10 2016 14:58 GMT
#2839
On October 10 2016 22:39 Damdred wrote:
Also voting palmar cause I liked what marv had to say and think there is a decent chance he's scum.

Still reading though

On what page are you?
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Koshi
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October 10 2016 22:02 GMT
#2901
Well. Worked till 20h00 (dafuq???) and then had soccer at 21h00. Drank some beers and now it is 24h00 and I still have to eat.

Literally nothing changed in here so that's nice. Except that it isn't really.


I agree with JAT and have the exact same view on the game. Maybe I would vote Damdred over Scott. But mafia is Palmar/Oats/Damdred and then maybe marv/scott.

But as long as these people refuse to play the game we are just circle jerking all day all night.
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Koshi
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October 10 2016 22:12 GMT
#2912
Well Palmar. Your filter is shit. You don't bleed town. And I don't understand why you push JAT over marv. Like. I have not read 1 good reason why you scumread JAT while I have read many on why you scumread marv. I just don't believe you are town. I can't.

I don't even know how many pages JAT currently has. But can you quote 1 reason you gave why JAT is mafia?
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Koshi
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October 10 2016 22:22 GMT
#2923
I could but I don't want to.
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Koshi
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October 10 2016 22:32 GMT
#2932
I am willing to vote marv because unless he died there is no way he doesn't post for so long as town. He actually has to be dead. I don't hope he is dead. But I don't see any other excuse for him not posting as town. As mafia I can somehow see him post in scum QT but not here. It is kinda getting really long though.
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Koshi
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October 10 2016 22:35 GMT
#2934
On October 11 2016 07:33 Calix wrote:
I am extremely unimpressed at the "I'll vote for this guy because he's AFK" posts.

+1.
I should have said: I am only willing to vote for marv because ...
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 11:25 GMT
#2987
On October 11 2016 20:03 marvellosity wrote:
Hi all

Life got in my way, I'm going to do my best to catch up through the day and do something before deadline.

Not that I need to know about your private life. But 48 hours is a pretty long time for not being able to make 1 single post in the thread.
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 11:27 GMT
#2989
I would also like to point out that you need to read
Palmar
JAT
Oats
Scott

In that order. But I know you get bitchy when somebody asks you to do things so I better not.
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 11:41 GMT
#2994
Well I am lynching Palmar and marv. This is not normal.
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 11:43 GMT
#2995
So who is the third mafia? Probably not Damdred cuz he is getting pushed by both. Oats getting townread by both. My money is on Scott.

Palmar/marv/Scott
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 13:32 GMT
#2997
On October 11 2016 21:43 justanothertownie wrote:
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On October 11 2016 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
On October 11 2016 20:27 Koshi wrote:
I would also like to point out that you need to read
Palmar
JAT
Oats
Scott

In that order. But I know you get bitchy when somebody asks you to do things so I better not.

I did read Palmar and I don't think we should lynch him today.

tbh i'm not totally convinced he's town and he can do the 'angry' thing as mafia, but it doesn't read to me that way particularly. I can believe he thinks I'm 100% mafia at this point if he's town

i know i attacked him for his weird HF-switch reading around d1 deadline, but for some reason I got the opposite reaction to what he said about Superbia. (the fact the posts were so close together in his filter)

At which point are we supposed to lynch Palmar in your opinion? If we mislynch today we are in LYLO...

D5 ofc.
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 14:37 GMT
#3020
On October 11 2016 23:16 Calix wrote:
Scott is probably mafia because of that awful vote plus the fact that he's promised twice to do shit and hasn't done anything plus his awful contradictory posts.


On October 11 2016 23:13 justanothertownie wrote:
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On October 11 2016 23:12 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2016 16:09 scott31337 wrote:
Sorry Damdred, I've had car accidents happen and still was able to at least voice my opinion. My vote is for you.

i'd still lynch scott for this alone

Fair enough.

So marv comes back after +48 hours doing god knows what and you guys just sheep him no questions asked on lynchbait target nr 1. Good stuff. GL with that.
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 14:38 GMT
#3022
I can't believe this is actually happening. How the fuck really?
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 14:40 GMT
#3023
On October 11 2016 23:38 Calix wrote:
Didn't you just say that Scott, Marv, Palmar are the scum team, Koshi?

No. It is the guy you guys are not lynching today. Maybe it is scott. Maybe it is Oats. Could be JAT. Maybe Damdred. I don't know.

What I do know is that marv and Palmar are mafia.

Lynch Palmar.
Lynch marv.

And then play Russian Roulette.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 11 2016 14:41 GMT
#3024
Holy fucking mozes just look at how they have threaten each other these past 3 days. Come the fuck on.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 11 2016 14:44 GMT
#3028
On October 11 2016 23:41 Calix wrote:
Kindly walk through your thought process here, mate.

I for one do not think this is some elaborate distancing scheme.

"elaborate"

Made a post about lynching damdred
Made 2 posts about possibly lynching scott on a retarded votepost and something else.
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 14:47 GMT
#3029
Palmar went from marv is mafia to marv is town due to marv townreading Palmar in 1 emo posts, to marv is mafia but I will vote JAT till I realized I haven't given 1 reason why JAT is mafia so I will call it preflip association and vote marv after marv was afk for +48hours.

Sure. Sure. Very realistic.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 11 2016 14:48 GMT
#3031
On October 11 2016 23:47 Koshi wrote:
Palmar went from marv is mafia to marv is town due to marv townreading Palmar in 1 emo posts, to marv is mafia but I will vote JAT till I realized I haven't given 1 reason why JAT is mafia so I will call it preflip association and vote marv after marv was afk for +48hours.

Sure. Sure. Very realistic.

And marv is like "oh yeah I read his filter but I don't know. Could be anything. PS: Let's lynch Damdred or scott"
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 11 2016 14:48 GMT
#3032
Never ever.
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 15:24 GMT
#3039
On October 11 2016 23:54 Calix wrote:
I personally think there is 0% chance of Scott/ Damdred being T/T, therefore lynching one of them is the superior option.

Well I would lynch into Palmar/marv which contains 99,5% scum but maybe I am just crazy.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 11 2016 16:16 GMT
#3051
I have to leave work. Already 9 minutes late. I have to travel home, grab bags and play soccer in 1h12 mins from now. Play 1 hour. Shower. Might have drinks (I don't think so this time because we are only 5 and all will need to eat), oh yeah I will eat frites, so I should be home around ??? Dnu. with some luck 1 hour before lynch? Dnu.

My stand is clear. Lynch Palmar.


Scott is starting to look like the mafia lynch of choice. Not sure about that yet.
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 20:37 GMT
#3113
So mafia decided to lynch Scott and you fuckers are hoping on a buss. Brilliant.
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 20:37 GMT
#3114
While both marv and Palmar were literally not pressured at all during the entire fucking day.
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 20:41 GMT
#3118
On October 12 2016 05:38 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 05:37 Koshi wrote:
So mafia decided to lynch Scott and you fuckers are hoping on a buss. Brilliant.

well a bus leaves us at status quo and gives us 72 more hours, so i'm good with that

great WIFOM post. gj.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 11 2016 20:42 GMT
#3120
Marv walks in after 2 days being awol and gets 0 pressure. Throws a fish towards damdred, throws 2 fishes towards scott and you take the bait and lynch scott.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 11 2016 20:43 GMT
#3123
Calix are you here?
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 20:44 GMT
#3125
On October 12 2016 05:42 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 05:42 Koshi wrote:
Marv walks in after 2 days being awol and gets 0 pressure. Throws a fish towards damdred, throws 2 fishes towards scott and you take the bait and lynch scott.

you're not pressuring me either, you're bitching. pressure away my dear.

I did. And concluded you are mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 11 2016 20:45 GMT
#3127
On October 12 2016 05:43 Calix wrote:
I'm here, yes.

Why are we not lynching Palmar?
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 20:46 GMT
#3130
On October 12 2016 05:45 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 05:44 Koshi wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:42 marvellosity wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:42 Koshi wrote:
Marv walks in after 2 days being awol and gets 0 pressure. Throws a fish towards damdred, throws 2 fishes towards scott and you take the bait and lynch scott.

you're not pressuring me either, you're bitching. pressure away my dear.

I did. And concluded you are mafia.

you never pressured me. you may have concluded i was mafia at some point (like i very accurately predicted) but it wasn't the product of pressure.

Yes it was. I asked you to read Palmar. You said "he could be town or mafia" and didn't come back to it till now.

Scumclaim right there.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 11 2016 20:49 GMT
#3135
On October 12 2016 05:45 Calix wrote:
Because his whining sounded townie?

lol. No words. Just no words.

Palmar actually knows how the game works. He actually can post thoughts on why people are mafia.

Palmar scumread JAT the entire game. Give me 1 reason why he thought JAT was mafia.

Palmar can influence a lynch by posting. He posted this game, he didn't influence shit.

Palmar was the full town counterwagon to mafia filled town lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 11 2016 20:50 GMT
#3137
On October 12 2016 05:47 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 05:46 Koshi wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:45 marvellosity wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:44 Koshi wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:42 marvellosity wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:42 Koshi wrote:
Marv walks in after 2 days being awol and gets 0 pressure. Throws a fish towards damdred, throws 2 fishes towards scott and you take the bait and lynch scott.

you're not pressuring me either, you're bitching. pressure away my dear.

I did. And concluded you are mafia.

you never pressured me. you may have concluded i was mafia at some point (like i very accurately predicted) but it wasn't the product of pressure.

Yes it was. I asked you to read Palmar. You said "he could be town or mafia" and didn't come back to it till now.

Scumclaim right there.

don't be silly. as mafia i can just choose a stance.

AND AS TOWN YOU CAN'T. LOLOLOLOL

If only we weren't in day 3 within a 150 pages thread.
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 20:51 GMT
#3143
On October 12 2016 05:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 05:49 Koshi wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:45 Calix wrote:
Because his whining sounded townie?

lol. No words. Just no words.

Palmar actually knows how the game works. He actually can post thoughts on why people are mafia.

Palmar scumread JAT the entire game. Give me 1 reason why he thought JAT was mafia.

Palmar can influence a lynch by posting. He posted this game, he didn't influence shit.

Palmar was the full town counterwagon to mafia filled town lynch.

^ one of the reasons i'm not confident?

i really dislike being wrong and i especially would dislike being wrong about palmar so i'm hedging like fuck because i'm not sure.

HE IS 100% MAFIA.
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 20:53 GMT
#3146
On October 12 2016 05:51 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 05:49 Koshi wrote:
On October 12 2016 05:45 Calix wrote:
Because his whining sounded townie?

lol. No words. Just no words.

Palmar actually knows how the game works. He actually can post thoughts on why people are mafia.

Palmar scumread JAT the entire game. Give me 1 reason why he thought JAT was mafia.

Palmar can influence a lynch by posting. He posted this game, he didn't influence shit.

Palmar was the full town counterwagon to mafia filled town lynch.


Your last two points are the most valid ones.

I can't really hold the second one because I did that too...and so did every other JAT voter.

I can give a million others.

Palmar doesn't need to rely on emo posts to be seen town.

Palmar doesn't make only emo posts as town.

Palmar actually has legit reasons to scumread 1 person when he makes a WoT scumlist
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 20:54 GMT
#3148
I love how Palmar is now laughing so fucking hard in disbelieve we once again didn't lynch him.
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 20:54 GMT
#3152
And once again I have this shimmer of hope that scott is mafia. I can't believe it.
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 20:57 GMT
#3160
On October 12 2016 05:56 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##vote palmar


go big or go home?

Interesting.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 11 2016 20:57 GMT
#3161
Ok. Tears of joy.
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 20:58 GMT
#3165
He is 100% mafia. Can't go wrong.
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 20:59 GMT
#3169
On October 12 2016 05:58 Calix wrote:
If he's town, we're fucked because most of the game was spent on you two bickering.

Why are you defending your scumread?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 11 2016 21:05 GMT
#3177
Ok. Fuck me.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 11 2016 21:05 GMT
#3179
So Calix is actually mafia?
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 21:14 GMT
#3184
On October 12 2016 06:11 Calix wrote:
In any case, I think the scum will win. We're stuck in triple LYLO now, no way do we get out of that one.

Even when you had Scott on the line, the other scum will just switch votes at the last minute.

What does this mean?
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Koshi
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October 11 2016 21:17 GMT
#3186
On October 12 2016 06:15 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 06:14 Koshi wrote:
On October 12 2016 06:11 Calix wrote:
In any case, I think the scum will win. We're stuck in triple LYLO now, no way do we get out of that one.

Even when you had Scott on the line, the other scum will just switch votes at the last minute.

What does this mean?


Scott is scum.

There is scum among JAT/ Damdred/ you because you three caused Palmar to die over Scott.

Simple stuff.

Ok I understand. Though you were somehow saying scott was town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 12 2016 11:23 GMT
#3283
I am currently living in mafia depression.

I agree with JAT that Oats should be considered as mafia. Nothing the in the past days makes me think he is town. He is just riding the towncred he somehow got.

I don't see JAT be mafia. But I liked the second point nu made in his case. That further than the initial response to the mls and nks JAT never instantly made a fresh assumption based on the new evidence. If it is true, that is a really good point.

Oats/Damdred/Scott is the worst scumteam I saw in my life but that said we might be in tripple lylo against them lol.. marv I hope dies tonight. Otherwise he is still a good candidate for mafia.

Marv/Jat mafia team is actually the scumteam of my nightmares. Palmar might actually have a reason to be mad at me endgame then. Grack had them paired. Palmar. HF I think. damn.

Calix I thought was mafia for how she defended Palmar EoN and didn't switch but also didn't really prevent the switch. She also defended Palmar D1 quite irrationally. But if she is mafia I am atm content to lose vs her. She isn't the lynch tomorrow but in 2 vs 1 lylo I would reconsider that. 2 vs 1 lylo is the moment you reconsider everything and reverse the thoughts you had going into lylo anyway. If we get there. Most likely not.

NU is Mr. Babyrage, Mr. role pm claim. I didn't really read or remember his posts D1, but D2 and onwards he seemed ok to be confirmed town. Unlike Calix nu doesn't seem to have it in him to be mafia and play like this. Weird read but it makes sense if you understand what I mean.

Still in mafia depression but these are my thoughts.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 13 2016 07:29 GMT
#3344
On October 13 2016 09:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:
She hard-claimed it to me in a code, and soft-claimed it twice for everyone.

You are mafia.

Explain the code please.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 13 2016 17:23 GMT
#3451
I would lynch Scott over Damdred today.
##Vote Scott

If Calix had a redcheck she had it on Scott. The comment she made about the cop trying to lynch his redcheck was after I said the cop should claim. So she said 'Well the cop should try to lynch his target first'

This also explains why she defended Palmar over Scott last day.

Really should have said it to the entire thread instead to you alone.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 13 2016 17:25 GMT
#3452
fyi I don't believe there was a redcheck. But if that was the code. It was about Scott and not Damdred.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 13 2016 17:47 GMT
#3457
On October 14 2016 02:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:18 Calix wrote:
So you are voting JAT based on pre-flip associations?

Wow.

yes

I know not everyone is this good.

throw me a bone here guys. One of you mention wanting to kill marv who:

a) voted a terrible lynch on day 1, where BOTH ME AND HF noticed bats saying shit that didn't sound like mafia. We both said so. Marv is even better than us two at this tonal townie thing, and he flat out ignored it.

b) he voted me on day 2, then became less convinced I was mafia because I don't sound like damn mafia because I'm not one, but instead of doing anything, he just... went afk

c) killed hf, which is the obvious marv kill when hf suspected him and everyone thought hf was town.

Someone please, put votes on him.

I'm moving my vote to marv, and I'm going to see what happens.

Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 07:23 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:19 justanothertownie wrote:
You seriously don't see how I would be hesitant to lynch him after what happened last game?
You seriously think I would defend marv instead of just straight up bussing him when he just completely bails out?

well show me.

He is 100% mafia this game, so all you have to do is go vote him.

There is no universe where this is town marv.

Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 07:44 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:39 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 07:36 Calix wrote:
Okay Palmar, let us know when you have some A* contributions instead of trying to lynch an AFK player over yourself, using terrible reasoning everywhere and some whining about how bad everyone else is.

This here people is why we'll lose.

Remember in the post game, how stupid this post is.

ok bye.

What about it is stupid?
The only thing you provided today is ranting, calling marv mafia and a godawful association read on me.

Nothing on anyone else.

you know how I feel about everyone else

and I'm behind on the game.

NU can't concoct all this stupidity as scum so he's town
Calix is unnaturally bad, but still, sounded kinda sincere at points so town

Koshi, scott and damdred can fall either way. Koshi sounds slightly mafia and scott, maybe. Damdred sounds slightly town

marv is scum.

Show nested quote +
On October 09 2016 05:47 Palmar wrote:
Superbia is gonna flip town.

Scum team is a combination of JAT koshi Marv Scott damdred

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On October 10 2016 02:01 Palmar wrote:
I don't even care about my cred anymore. If I'm fucking wrong I'll just accept it. I keep hedging (Iike calling superbia not the worst lynch out of spite for his lack of effort last night, I then turned around and said he was town, of course).

Calix is 100% town
NU is 100% town
Oats is 100% town

Grack is 80% town

Damdred is 50% town
Koshi is 50% town
Scott is 40% town

Jag is 5% town
Marv is 0% town

two free mafia. gg wp

Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 02:02 Palmar wrote:
On October 10 2016 02:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I pretty much have to conclude that JAT is mafia at this point.

and marv

Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 03:41 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 01:08 justanothertownie wrote:
And palmar. Why on earth is palmar town?

You said the same thing about superbia

I am voting obvious mafia JAT. I'm not caught up and will not catch up until day 4 if I'm still alive.

I am also willing to vote the other obvious mafia, marv.

Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 06:23 Palmar wrote:
On October 11 2016 04:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar just told you "I will not care about this lynch at all and vote this guy who is definitely mafia even though I never justified why and never will while there is this other guy who I have actual reasons to scumread". Palmar is not this shit as town.

Lol


Palmar proposed the same scum-team as Damdred. And Palmar isn’t bad.

Jat’s proposed scum-team has Oats in it who is very likely town.

Marv has 1 scum-read and it’s not the one he is voting. He’s living off of a green-check.

Koshi and Oats are town. I am town. This train on Damdred contains at least one scum in it regardless of if they are bussing or pushing for their final ML.

I think Jat is scum everytime for, as Palmar said, being so blind and not noticing that bats, superbia, Oats and Palmar were tonally obvious town.
If he was not scum, he would be suspecting marv. But he is not. Either he is scum and marv is town or they are both scum.

Good post. Tomorrow town should figure out if it is Damdred/Oats or marv/JAT.
I am still favoring Damdred/Oats over JAT/marv but like I said. HF Palmar Grack all said marv/JAT. Maybe not HF. Still didn't check.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 13 2016 20:38 GMT
#3559
On October 14 2016 04:35 marvellosity wrote:
2 more pages of filter than koshi despite being afk for 48 hours O.o

Good thing my filter oozes town then.

I am off to bed. Tomorrow busy day once more and again soccer before deadline. This time we will have drinks so will be phoneposting.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 14 2016 08:55 GMT
#3561
Already caught up on all the post made during the night. Will use my lunch break to analyze them.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 14 2016 11:24 GMT
#3562
I have analyzed I am a pretty funny guy.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 14 2016 18:18 GMT
#3570
Well. I have to immediately go for soccer. I'll be free to really put work in this game this weekend. Well let's hope. lol.
Marv/JAT or Oats/Damdred.
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Koshi
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October 14 2016 21:04 GMT
#3585
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Koshi
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October 14 2016 22:10 GMT
#3621
Mafia Trifecta Win completed. 3 times mafia in a row.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



ggwp. 180 pages are a lot so town didn't lose due to inactivity tbh.
Oats made like 5 posts last 4 days...
I scated by the entire game without pressure due to playing good for 3 hours EoD1 pushing Palmar.

Poor JAT having to defend himself the entire game lol. So hilarious to see. Props for doing it.



ggwp. Hosts can start rolling me town again. Playing only mafia last months is not that awesome.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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Last Edited: 2016-10-14 22:41:08
October 14 2016 22:40 GMT
#3623
On October 15 2016 07:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2016 07:10 Koshi wrote:
Mafia Trifecta Win completed. 3 times mafia in a row.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



ggwp. 180 pages are a lot so town didn't lose due to inactivity tbh.
Oats made like 5 posts last 4 days...
I scated by the entire game without pressure due to playing good for 3 hours EoD1 pushing Palmar.

Poor JAT having to defend himself the entire game lol. So hilarious to see. Props for doing it.



ggwp. Hosts can start rolling me town again. Playing only mafia last months is not that awesome.

Your mom is hilarious to see...

hihi

This was so good if you know Calix would have redchecked Oats. My favorite moment in all scumgames I think. Because it was so clutch. Game winning. And I think we had to be both there to actually go through with it. Alone I wouldn't have had the balls.
[image loading]

Proud moment.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 14 2016 22:49 GMT
#3625
On October 15 2016 07:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2016 07:40 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2016 07:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 15 2016 07:10 Koshi wrote:
Mafia Trifecta Win completed. 3 times mafia in a row.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



ggwp. 180 pages are a lot so town didn't lose due to inactivity tbh.
Oats made like 5 posts last 4 days...
I scated by the entire game without pressure due to playing good for 3 hours EoD1 pushing Palmar.

Poor JAT having to defend himself the entire game lol. So hilarious to see. Props for doing it.



ggwp. Hosts can start rolling me town again. Playing only mafia last months is not that awesome.

Your mom is hilarious to see...

hihi

This was so good if you know Calix would have redchecked Oats. My favorite moment in all scumgames I think. Because it was so clutch. Game winning. And I think we had to be both there to actually go through with it. Alone I wouldn't have had the balls.
[image loading]

Proud moment.

My read! But yeah, wouldn't have changed it on my own either. Team effort.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 14 2016 23:44 GMT
#3630
Thx friends. I do it all for the fans.
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Koshi
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October 16 2016 18:38 GMT
#3638
Great hosting once again. Thank you.
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