[M][N] Murder on the Cruise Trip Mafia

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Koshi

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September 16 2016 16:24 GMT

#10

/in

Koshi

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September 28 2016 07:46 GMT

#70

On September 28 2016 11:21 scott31337 wrote:

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So does this mean there could be two of the same town power roles?

10 vs 3
9 vs 3 ml
8 vs 3 nk
7 vs 3 ml
6 vs 3 nk
5 vs 3 ml
4 vs 3 nk into lylo

I think that if a 3 men mafia team needs to win after a 5th ml when town didn't play their roles superb is not balanced. I am not sure if both vet getting shot and doc saving 1 person is superb play. Not bad play though. But 5 ml is insane!!! Such a long game as well. Town leaders being alive for a long time. Blueclaims... Not balanced imo.

2 veterans I could live with if rb cancels the vest. It was so last game you hosted so that is fine.
2 docs is imbalanced.
2 vigis I can live with. But pretty insane.
2 cops are maybe even more imbalanced than 2 docs.

Random all roles is fun and stuff. But you want to keep your game balanced. Like cop + vigi puts so much pressure on the mafia team to look extremely good. Town gets a lynch, a copcheck and a vigi shot before Day 2. And on Day 2 could potentially claim 2 blue roles (they are unlynchable). That is information on 6 players by the start of D2 in a 13 player game, at least 2 of those are dead. And mafia wins on 3rd ml on 3rd day but still...

Maybe introduce a miller? So mafia has an out when they get redchecked. Or a framer instead of gf. Or both.

If you really 100% random and have potential double roles on all I think I will out. 2 any roles are always good enough for town with a chance to become batshit crazy.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 28 2016 12:12 GMT

#77

On September 28 2016 19:00 beentheredonethat wrote:

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No. Good catch, thank you. Once a power role has been rolled, it will not be rolled again. I have added the information to the OP.

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On September 28 2016 16:46 Koshi wrote:

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As said above, no double roles will be included. Any combination of roles is possible but no duplicate roles.

I am pretty sure you don't want to random the mafia roles but you will want to adjust them to counter the town roles.

medic/cop
medic/vet
medic/vigi
cop/vet
cop/vigi
vet/vigi

Only medic/vet is a pretty crappy set-up. Especially if mafia rolls gf/framer/goon.

Also no love for unaware miller

/confirm.

Koshi

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September 28 2016 12:15 GMT

#78

On September 28 2016 17:52 justanothertownie wrote:

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On September 28 2016 16:46 Koshi wrote:

On September 28 2016 11:21 scott31337 wrote:

On September 14 2016 05:56 beentheredonethat wrote:

Setup Rolls

Role distribution will be randomized as in all of my games.

Round 1:
First roll: Determine first player to receive town PR. Second roll: Determine first power role.
Round 2:
First roll: Determine second player to receive town PR. Second roll: Determine second power role.

Round 3-5:
Roll roles for Scum players.

All role combinations are possible.

Voting

Use the voting thread!
Votes in game thread will not be counted. Remember to ##unvote as votes without ##unvote will not be counted. There will be no notification if the vote is invalid.

Activity

Remember, a minimum of 5 (five) posts is required per day phase.

So does this mean there could be two of the same town power roles?

I agree with this guy. He is a balance expert after all.

the pocketing starts so soon.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 03 2016 20:59 GMT

#119

First confirmed town.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 03 2016 21:03 GMT

#120

Not sure if I have a plan this game. Not hard townreading mafia somehow maybe.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 03 2016 21:09 GMT

#121

tumbleweed.jpg

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 03 2016 22:18 GMT

#139

Can you Americans tell me what good series just started?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 03 2016 22:20 GMT

#141

On October 04 2016 07:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:

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I do not. Hence why I ask. I would like specific examples to know whether the rules prohibit me from being mod confirmed.

rules? What about your honor as a player.
I already know what this is about and it is superlame. superlame.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 04 2016 09:34 GMT

#194

On October 04 2016 15:40 Holyflare wrote:
nEVERuNLUCKY probably bs confirmed himself town and koshi is either abusing it and bsing or is also town. Calix bad or mafia for even voting that way.

More wishy washy statements on koshi to come.

I am dismissing the entire event.

A jury in a murder case also has to sometimes dismiss extreme good looking evidence because it is obtained outside the law. I always imagined that was the hardest thing to do and that in reality the jury wouldn't dismiss it at all. But I will completely dismiss it.

I encourage the other judges to follow my example.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 04 2016 11:04 GMT

#213

Just proof that he has done it in the past.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 04 2016 13:04 GMT

#293

It's rare that I am superbusy but I am superbusy.
Been skimming the thread all day but last 25ish post I started skimming to only read posts not from Calix or ud and there weren't any so that's that.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 04 2016 13:38 GMT

#331

On October 04 2016 22:18 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Quick shitpost to make sure I have more posts than Calix.

lol. best post I read since long.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 04 2016 14:53 GMT

#395

On October 04 2016 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:

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On October 04 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:

On October 04 2016 22:55 Oatsmaster wrote:

On October 04 2016 22:50 Calix wrote:

On October 04 2016 22:44 Oatsmaster wrote:

On October 04 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:
Like if you think that WIFOM is going to work out for you then you're going to have a bad time.

Explain yourself or eat rope.

Clearly I'm coming here and trying to get superbia to actually post relevant stuff so I can get a read on him that isnt predicated on his horrible first 2 posts. To do this I don't actually need to vote in the voting thread. You guys need to get it out of your heads that voting is alignment indicative. The only place it's alignment indicative is when it's the vote to Lynch someone or to Lynch some else that djdnt actually get lynched.

That's detracting from the initial issue. Nobody was objecting to a Superbia vote. We were calling you out on saying that I was scummy while voting for someone else. The fact that the person is Superbia is 0% relevant.

And yes, votes are not AI unless you know what some of the flips are. Thanks mate.

On October 04 2016 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:

On October 04 2016 22:44 Calix wrote:

On October 04 2016 22:41 Oatsmaster wrote:

On October 04 2016 22:25 Calix wrote:

On October 04 2016 22:23 Oatsmaster wrote:

On October 04 2016 22:17 Calix wrote:
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What the fuck kind of logic is that? You ask questions to pry into someone's thought processes which you are STILL NOT EXPLAINING.

You stated "Calix is scummy"

You voted for Superbia.

You did not state a scum-read on Superbia.

Why the fuck are you not explaining your vote?

If it's 'lul randum xD' then why are you random-voting over a scum-read?

Obviously I think super is scummy and obviously I dont think it's worth explaining a read on him just yet. Can you propose a reason why I would do this as scum?

Can you explain why you are doing it as town?

I don't have a fucking clue what you are trying to achieve here, dude. It makes no sense to throw down a 'vote' without actually voting and then refusing to explain it, since this draws a stupid amount of attention to you, but you are also aware of this (like I was earlier) so that weakens the argument a little.

So as it stands, my reasoning for both alignments is "you're an idiot"

You're welcome for this incisive analysis.

In your opinion, after his first 2 posts what did you read superbia as? This is going somewhere, please assist

I can't help you out much, lol. I didn't have a read on him with those posts because he said he was planning on lurking on Day 1 in the pre-game so while repeating that is redundant, I just read them as generic "check-in" posts.

Come on you can do better than that. So he makes generic check in posts when it's at least 10 pages of stuff he could actually comment on but he chooses not to? What does that initially say about his alignment?

Why don't you just tell us what you're getting at instead of trying to prompt me into saying things for you? I can see the leading questions from a mile off. I've already said that I think those posts are NAI by themselves, the end.

Spit it out or piss off.

I said my point already.

Im not explaining my vote because I'm not trying to get other people to vote for superbia. Is that so hard to understand? The vote is to pressure superbia and it's only for him.

Calling a vote a pressure vote kills its intent.

Do you have actual reads?

Intent over already.
I think koshi has been skating by on pithy little comments.
I seem to remember other people promising shit but not delivering. I think it's stutters so he's leaning scum. Pretty sure Marv and Palmar are town. They don't give enough of a shit.

Koshi superbusy.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 04 2016 15:29 GMT

#402

Am I not underwhelming?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 04 2016 15:33 GMT

#407

On October 05 2016 00:31 Calix wrote:

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Well duh.

You didn't name yourself Yoshi

Also you keep harping on about your RL stuff.

Yes. I am superbusy. Not normal.
Day to Day stuff.
Month-End Closing.
Quartal Closing.
Planning 2017.

Insane. My brain is mush.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 04 2016 18:01 GMT

#476

lol I panicked so hard when I saw 306 new posts. But this is on teamliquid lol.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

October 04 2016 18:09 GMT

#477

On October 05 2016 01:43 Palmar wrote:
Thing about HF is I've convinced myself I need to figure him out, which is why I'm interested in him.

Also someone kidnapped the real Koshi, but I'm not sure fake koshi is mafia. But he's not real koshi.

Koshi is real. Just superbusy and tired due to having to have to use all his braincells at work. Yes. Koshi has so many braincells he normally can play mafia and still work better than anybody. But this period is really hard, each year. But this year I feel it is even busier. Well. It simply is way busier.

There is a legit chance I might have to do a real 100% sheep. Exciting times!