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On October 07 2016 20:20 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 20:15 marvellosity wrote:
okay I kinda see Superbia. I'm asking Palmar to explain my motivation for my actions in the scenario I outlined.
That's not a defence, that's me wanting to know if he has a reasonable explanation.
I don't have a reasonable explantion.
yet the town explanation is super obvious, so what are you doing?
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pinkie promise gone now ^^
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On October 07 2016 22:32 Superbia wrote:
Palmar made a big impact.
Marv did comparatively nothing.
Marv can you do a Palmar?
how? he still won't answer basic questions.
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like i'll happily afk and get lynched for it but there's about 5 questions that should be easy for Palmar to answer in my last few posts.
*shrug*
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i'm so grumpy i won't even dignify that with a yes
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Palmar isn't being supertown despite his own proclamations, so i can basically conclude he's unable to give any reasonable explanation for his actions
i just don't care to have to battle really hard for something that's very simple. i have neither the time or the inclination (anymore)
most of the game is just other people asking people (e.g. me) to 'do things' as if that's doing something themselves. it isn't. no-one is actually doing anything.
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and yes jat is right about the defensive thing.
which is why oats' post about me being defensive was incredibly stupid (so standard for him). I'm often incredibly defensive as town when people are suspicious of me and can spend a bazillion posts just defending myself, especially when the accusations aren't reasonable.
in this case there aren't even accusations for me to be upset about, mind you. just 'waa marv do more'
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just to clarify: jat is right that he is defensive (as both alignments). i then segued into talking about myself, because, y'know, me.
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i wish you guys had just gone along with me more on the palmar thing, because he had a half hour flurry of decent posts and now he's coasting on it because everyone went 'oooh that looked nice'. it's so dull
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On October 08 2016 00:57 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Woah, marv has 8 pages of filter. I can barely remember any of his posts. That's telling. May filter dive him later when I get some motivation to do so.
you have 13 and i think much the same. so de facto you're scummier. except i don't particularly think you are, so meh.
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On October 07 2016 18:57 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 18:46 Palmar wrote:
It jives rather well with what I've been thinking about this game.
Batsnacks sounded like a townie
Oats sounds like a townie
NU sounds like a special snowflake
Grack is not as funny as I would've thought he should be, but I do like him nonetheless, for now.
Superbia is being an ass, but he does that all the time as all alignments, don't think he's been overtly scummy. One of the big milestones today is going to be whether or not he realizes what is up. If he doesn't, he needs to be dropped very low on everyone's lists when I flip town. Superbia is smart, knows me well, and a good player in general. If he votes for me when I'm town, that's super concerning.
Damdred and Stutters are players I have completely ignored.
Marv is going to drop his vote on me. If he actually stays he's 100% mafia. He reads me better than any player in the history of TL mafia, he has basically a 100% rate on figuring my alignment by day 2 when he's town. If I ever flip town, and he is still calling me mafia, he is scum. there is NO WAY AROUND IT. Thing is, I also know that he knows exactly this. He CAN'T be wrong on me, so I know he's going to end up drop his vote on me today. Depending on whether I believe the reasoning there's a tiny chance I'm wrong. But the NK, his play, his lack of enthusiasm for some things and just some tonally weird things, all point to marv-mafia. Not to mention, both HF and I picked up a townie vibe from batsnacks, and marv completely failed to recognize it. He is better at town than both of us, and that is super concerning.
JAT/Koshi/Calix <--- Three strong players who have been atrociously wrong throughout the game. There is definitely town in this group, probably even two. Whichever ones of you are town need to pull head out of asses and start playing reasonably. It is very likely that one of the townies is Koshi, because him tunneling stupid things is kind of what he does as town, the other two are slightly better so who knows.
Regarding Calix specifically, my day 1 read of her is mostly tonal. She felt very analytical and willing to try to solve the game when she was town in the last game I was with her. This contrasts her more timid and reserved tone here. I am also slightly suspicious of how she could read me so well on day 1 (against all odds she was calling me town) and then dropped it with some complete bullshit reasoning on n1, that is worrying. This is the first time I've seen you wall-post ever. And the first half of your reads list isn't complete shite. You've finally managed to cross that extremely low threshold set for you. [b] Marv isn't mafia[/b], go focus your efforts somewhere else instead of being a moron because of META. Maybe on Stutters-Scott/ Damdred instead. I'm insulted that you think I'm on the same level as JAT based purely on ONE GAME. That's not even meta, that's just a random fucking game. You continued to be useless and pretty much everyone else looks more townie than you due to said uselessness and two of my scum-reads were wrong, so I decided "well fuck him anyway" and now you're being slightly less useless so who knows.
you may or may not have explained this elsewhere, but why do you think this when so much of the game definitely thinks i could be?
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well i failed that highlighting but the bit with the attempted bolds
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On October 08 2016 04:06 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 03:57 marvellosity wrote:
most of the game is just other people asking people (e.g. me) to 'do things' as if that's doing something themselves. it isn't. no-one is actually doing anything. That's my biggest FM pet peeve. Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 04:02 marvellosity wrote:
i wish you guys had just gone along with me more on the palmar thing, because he had a half hour flurry of decent posts and now he's coasting on it because everyone went 'oooh that looked nice'. it's so dull :/ What is your Jat read?
leaning town
it's pretty tricky to read him with reduced activity (and i guess the same goes for me, in days gone by i'd have at least double the filter by now)
but i don't particularly dislike anything he wrote, he's not unnecessarily prickly. i've seen quite a few posts criticising individual posts of his (e.g. by calix, probably others) but i didn't think any of them were really bad
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koshi doesn't even have to be town either tbh. didn't like the fact that he didn't understand i was making a joke when i commented on his palmar vote at the beginning of the day
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On October 07 2016 19:40 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2016 18:46 Palmar wrote:
It jives rather well with what I've been thinking about this game.
Batsnacks sounded like a townie
Oats sounds like a townie
NU sounds like a special snowflake
Grack is not as funny as I would've thought he should be, but I do like him nonetheless, for now.
Superbia is being an ass, but he does that all the time as all alignments, don't think he's been overtly scummy. One of the big milestones today is going to be whether or not he realizes what is up. If he doesn't, he needs to be dropped very low on everyone's lists when I flip town. Superbia is smart, knows me well, and a good player in general. If he votes for me when I'm town, that's super concerning.
Damdred and Stutters are players I have completely ignored.
Marv is going to drop his vote on me. If he actually stays he's 100% mafia. He reads me better than any player in the history of TL mafia, he has basically a 100% rate on figuring my alignment by day 2 when he's town. If I ever flip town, and he is still calling me mafia, he is scum. there is NO WAY AROUND IT. Thing is, I also know that he knows exactly this. He CAN'T be wrong on me, so I know he's going to end up drop his vote on me today. Depending on whether I believe the reasoning there's a tiny chance I'm wrong. But the NK, his play, his lack of enthusiasm for some things and just some tonally weird things, all point to marv-mafia. Not to mention, both HF and I picked up a townie vibe from batsnacks, and marv completely failed to recognize it. He is better at town than both of us, and that is super concerning.
JAT/Koshi/Calix <--- Three strong players who have been atrociously wrong throughout the game. There is definitely town in this group, probably even two. Whichever ones of you are town need to pull head out of asses and start playing reasonably. It is very likely that one of the townies is Koshi, because him tunneling stupid things is kind of what he does as town, the other two are slightly better so who knows.
Regarding Calix specifically, my day 1 read of her is mostly tonal. She felt very analytical and willing to try to solve the game when she was town in the last game I was with her. This contrasts her more timid and reserved tone here. I am also slightly suspicious of how she could read me so well on day 1 (against all odds she was calling me town) and then dropped it with some complete bullshit reasoning on n1, that is worrying. I like how people are only mafia after you flip. It's your only argument. Fearmongering at its best.
although maybe this comment alone makes up for it
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On October 08 2016 04:14 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 03:57 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar isn't being supertown despite his own proclamations, so i can basically conclude he's unable to give any reasonable explanation for his actions Ok, but why are you voting him? "Not supertown" != Mafia
i explained so i won't again.
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like Palmar said his activity is going to be reduced because he's going somewhere? (i think)
if he's town, the best chance town has of winning the game is engaging with me properly and moving things forward. instead he chose to antagonise me and not answer any of my questions which actually do need answering because they're questions about his play that don't make sense.
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On October 08 2016 04:20 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2016 04:15 marvellosity wrote:On October 08 2016 04:14 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 08 2016 03:57 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar isn't being supertown despite his own proclamations, so i can basically conclude he's unable to give any reasonable explanation for his actions Ok, but why are you voting him? "Not supertown" != Mafia i explained so i won't again. Quote it at least. No reason to act anti-town.
Read at least, no reason to act anti-town.
page 7 of my filter a few posts after my vote, and the subsequent questions i posed
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don't understand how you don't get the paragraph above the bolded one isn't correct/relevant either
especially as he's more prone to it as mafia (hence providing it as an example).
but it's simply scummy on its own to bitch about a lynch while doing nothing about it.
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