EPT[M][N] Murder on the Cruise Trip Mafia
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marvellosity
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On October 01 2016 04:23 justanothertownie wrote: KP is factional, right? If that is the case then setup 1-3 seem ok to me. 4 is very swingy. Not sure if it isn't pretty townfavored too. Swingy is fine. Town loses a ml if they hit town and don't gain one if they hit mafia Could make the cop parity in setup 4 though | ||
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On October 01 2016 19:58 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah, the lost mislynch is the only reason I wasn't sure. Because like koshi said town possibly gains a lot of information on day2 already. Even if the vig misses you have 1 or 2 (if cop claims) confirmed townies, a question mark erased and a cop check. Not a fan of swingy minis in general but balance wise it might be fine. Especially with a parity cop instead of a regular one. tangentially, i've always quite liked the idea of a mafia vigi in 13 player setups when there's a town vigi mafia having an extra shot takes away a ml for town, but then if town vigi hits mafia it's obviously good news anyway, and then if town vigi hits town you don't lose an extra mislynch. i'd play in a 10-3 open setup with one vigi per side | ||
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On October 04 2016 20:02 Calix wrote: Your reading comprehension is exceptionally poor today, mate. You must have read my long posts otherwise you wouldn't have found that comment and misrepresented my position like that. The idea is (and it took me way too long): nu (he directly asked to be called nu, everyone do it) did something that on the surface is townie behaviour - drawing attention to self / dumb plan type idea - but you voted for him. So the question is, why didn't you also find it somewhat townie behaviour, and the only answer is that you have meta that he does such things as mafia. So if you could provide an example of nu trying funky things right at the start of the game as mafia, you might save yourself a lot of hassle. just a suggestion | ||
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On October 04 2016 20:31 Calix wrote: I didn't find it townie because him trying to use a shortcut to confirm himself/ find scum/ etc is typical behaviour for him. Like he tries to find one or two things that 'confirm' people. Not great at explaining it. (for example, he scum-hunts a lot via 'scum slips' - a look at his first game on here shows that) And I didn't think the host would confirm it (obviously) so with that in mind alongside the fact that posting PMs is obviously against the rules, I found it questionable. no, i get that, but to vote him you have to think he does that as mafia otherwise you would also find it townie, hence the baying mob asking for you to provide an example of him doing such a thing as mafia. It doesn't have to be exactly that even, but if you can provide an example of him doing something weird to try to confirm himself when he's mafia, that would be lovely. if you can't, you should be able to see why hf and whoever else is getting on your bum, it's just logic | ||
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On October 04 2016 20:39 Calix wrote: Yeah that's what I said earlier. I'd be doing exactly the same thing. Like I had an example in mind (as said earlier) when making my earlier posts but that doesn't match the "confirm self as mafia" thing that's being asked for. you may as well provide it for the sake of completeness :p tbh i don't think your vote on him looks very good, but on the other hand I know it's very easy to have your own thoughts and make sweeping statements about players you know without being able to back it up very well. | ||
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On October 04 2016 20:38 Superbia wrote: General complaint: I agree that this PM shit is really really fucking dumb. The fact that people are already drawing conclusions based on someone who claims he can be mod confirmed is also really fucking dumb. Like conjecture regarding PMs is already happening. This why you never bring this shit up. You're either soft claiming a role or you're really talking about again-the-rules shit like an absolute dumb ass. Either way it's fucking dumb because people are now talking about PMs and inferring based on it. I wanted a nice, high-level game. Not PM garbage. Thx4listening. yes, unfortunately i did read this completely unnecessary pointless post. | ||
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On October 04 2016 20:44 Calix wrote: I did. I said that he claimed Friendly Neighbour as scum in his last game. (which I now realise is a bad example due to different contexts of the claim - he didn't claim it at the start of that game) This isn't that bad. It means people are doing something so I don't mind. Clearly I didn't read one of your posts at all... | ||
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On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote: If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read. For the sake of argument, why would he try force a read on the one person who can most easily rebut him ? | ||
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On October 04 2016 21:24 NeverUnlucky wrote: She can claim that she knows my play and get others to lynch me. Doesn't matter if I can rebut her, as long as the others trust her voice over mine. I don't really understand why you ask this question. Power Wolfs do this all the time. There isn't really a 'why'. maybe shit power wolves where you come from. here people have brains (he says tentatively) like seriously, no-one is going to lynch someone at someone's word like that without asking for proof. i'm shocked anyone at your homesite would get away with it because "please show me evidence" is pretty strong tictac | ||
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On October 04 2016 22:00 Superbia wrote: For serious though. There's a decent meta reason why I want to stay in the sidelines (as town—but also regardless of alignment) d1. because when you play for realsies as mafia everyone catches you on day 1? | ||
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On October 04 2016 22:11 NeverUnlucky wrote: Damn, you beat me with the 66%. I do not agree with Palmar. Palmar is more likely than HF As I understand it Palmar's rolled mafia quite a few times so if he's town he should be wanting to get stuck in | ||
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On October 04 2016 22:23 Oatsmaster wrote: Obviously I think super is scummy and obviously I dont think it's worth explaining a read on him just yet. Can you propose a reason why I would do this as scum? So you could ask "why would I do this as scum?" To look like you're doing something to feign activity to be a total twat to really be a total twat | ||
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On October 04 2016 23:25 NeverUnlucky wrote: They're almost unheard of where I come from. Lurk scums are the most common ones. tumblewood They wouldn't get away with it I don't think. ........... ....... ................... On October 04 2016 21:24 NeverUnlucky wrote: She can claim that she knows my play and get others to lynch me. Doesn't matter if I can rebut her, as long as the others trust her voice over mine. I don't really understand why you ask this question. Power Wolfs do this all the time. There isn't really a 'why'. then power wolves don't get away with it all the time You rebutted my question with "power wolves do this thing all the time" and now you're admitting they don't get away with it. ??? strange one. | ||
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hence my question to you asking why he would call you out on something that isn't true / he can't prove that's why i ask the question | ||
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On October 04 2016 22:25 Oatsmaster wrote: Go and reread your first 2 posts and tell me they are made with the town wincon in mind. lynching Oats being a total dick in all his posts would probably advance town wincon regardless of his alignment. just saying Oats. | ||
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On October 04 2016 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Come on you can do better than that. So he makes generic check in posts when it's at least 10 pages of stuff he could actually comment on but he chooses not to? What does that initially say about his alignment? Sorry, but how does one loon making a vote-that-isn't-even-a-vote pressure Superbia into doing anything? for realsies? | ||
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