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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 04 2016 14:32 GMT
#381
On October 04 2016 23:30 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
like my question was 100% legit, if i start making shit up about someone i know well on here, i'm gonna get called out on it and it's a lot more trouble than its worth

hence my question to you asking why he would call you out on something that isn't true / he can't prove

that's why i ask the question


This I don't understand either.

I don't know what's the question you're referring to.

i can't be bothered to explain if you can't just read the few posts preceding this where i quoted you directly saying "i don't get why you asked the question"

anyway

##Vote: Palmar

Highest % mafia right now
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 04 2016 14:34 GMT
#382
tldr nu:

marvellosity: hey nu, why would calix attack a player he knows well who can easily rebut him and he has no proof for any of his accusations?
nu: uh, why the hell not, power wolves do it all the time on my site
me: because you get called out on it and look terrible and no-one would ever lynch on that basis??
nu: am so confused
me: ffs, let's kill Palmar
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 04 2016 14:36 GMT
#383
On October 04 2016 21:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 21:02 marvellosity wrote:
On October 04 2016 21:01 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 19:05 Calix wrote:
This is meta-based so not air-tight by any means but nothing else strikes me as interesting so fuck it, lol.


If it really was meta-based, you would not care. Fluff posting early/late d1 is NAI for me. I have done it as town and as neutral. I could be doing it as scum. You using it as an argument to call my play scummy reeks of someone trying to force a read.

For the sake of argument, why would he try force a read on the one person who can most easily rebut him ?


She can claim that she knows my play and get others to lynch me. Doesn't matter if I can rebut her, as long as the others trust her voice over mine.

I don't really understand why you ask this question. Power Wolfs do this all the time. There isn't really a 'why'.

And then once your are supposedly mislynched she looks like utter shit?!
On October 04 2016 21:34 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
NU, is calix mafia?
##vote superbia
Calix the fake activity is refering to you being mafia and just pushing shit for the sake of creating posts.

Nu, can you explain why stutters is mafia?


So you think I am scummy but you vote for Superbia?

You're going to have to walk me through that one.

(also NU said he agreed with me about Stutters)

Since you just agreed with me he also did. Just sayin.
On October 04 2016 22:11 Superbia wrote:
I am stuck between Oats or JAT. While I liked JATs early reason on me I feel the town JAT would've chased that shit down instead of backing off and saying "lal".

What is there to chase? It's pretty much everything I got on you since you refuse to really take part in the game. But the fact that you again try to paint my towngame as totally "anal" again like you did the last time you were mafia really doesn't speak in your favor.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 04 2016 14:37 GMT
#384
On October 04 2016 23:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 23:30 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
like my question was 100% legit, if i start making shit up about someone i know well on here, i'm gonna get called out on it and it's a lot more trouble than its worth

hence my question to you asking why he would call you out on something that isn't true / he can't prove

that's why i ask the question


This I don't understand either.

I don't know what's the question you're referring to.

i can't be bothered to explain if you can't just read the few posts preceding this where i quoted you directly saying "i don't get why you asked the question"

anyway

##Vote: Palmar

Highest % mafia right now

Hm. Interesting. What I am seeing so far is standard useless palmar. Which can basically mean anything.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 04 2016 14:39 GMT
#385
On October 04 2016 23:00 Calix wrote:
I don't know if Oats is mafia. There was one post he made a while back which I felt was kind-of town.

Other than that, I don't understand him whatsoever.

That's normal. Oats is being oats.
On October 04 2016 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:50 Calix wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:
Like if you think that WIFOM is going to work out for you then you're going to have a bad time.

Explain yourself or eat rope.


Clearly I'm coming here and trying to get superbia to actually post relevant stuff so I can get a read on him that isnt predicated on his horrible first 2 posts. To do this I don't actually need to vote in the voting thread. You guys need to get it out of your heads that voting is alignment indicative. The only place it's alignment indicative is when it's the vote to Lynch someone or to Lynch some else that djdnt actually get lynched.


That's detracting from the initial issue. Nobody was objecting to a Superbia vote. We were calling you out on saying that I was scummy while voting for someone else. The fact that the person is Superbia is 0% relevant.

And yes, votes are not AI unless you know what some of the flips are. Thanks mate.

On October 04 2016 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:44 Calix wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:25 Calix wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:17 Calix wrote:
[quote]

What the fuck kind of logic is that? You ask questions to pry into someone's thought processes which you are STILL NOT EXPLAINING.

You stated "Calix is scummy"

You voted for Superbia.

You did not state a scum-read on Superbia.

Why the fuck are you not explaining your vote?

If it's 'lul randum xD' then why are you random-voting over a scum-read?

Obviously I think super is scummy and obviously I dont think it's worth explaining a read on him just yet. Can you propose a reason why I would do this as scum?


Can you explain why you are doing it as town?

I don't have a fucking clue what you are trying to achieve here, dude. It makes no sense to throw down a 'vote' without actually voting and then refusing to explain it, since this draws a stupid amount of attention to you, but you are also aware of this (like I was earlier) so that weakens the argument a little.

So as it stands, my reasoning for both alignments is "you're an idiot"

You're welcome for this incisive analysis.

In your opinion, after his first 2 posts what did you read superbia as? This is going somewhere, please assist


I can't help you out much, lol. I didn't have a read on him with those posts because he said he was planning on lurking on Day 1 in the pre-game so while repeating that is redundant, I just read them as generic "check-in" posts.

Come on you can do better than that. So he makes generic check in posts when it's at least 10 pages of stuff he could actually comment on but he chooses not to? What does that initially say about his alignment?


Why don't you just tell us what you're getting at instead of trying to prompt me into saying things for you? I can see the leading questions from a mile off. I've already said that I think those posts are NAI by themselves, the end.

Spit it out or piss off.

I said my point already.

Im not explaining my vote because I'm not trying to get other people to vote for superbia. Is that so hard to understand? The vote is to pressure superbia and it's only for him.


Calling a vote a pressure vote kills its intent.

Do you have actual reads?

Intent over already.
I think koshi has been skating by on pithy little comments.
I seem to remember other people promising shit but not delivering. I think it's stutters so he's leaning scum. Pretty sure Marv and Palmar are town. They don't give enough of a shit.

You should really know better than to townread Palmar and especially marv for "not giving a shit". Like wtf.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 04 2016 14:41 GMT
#386
On October 04 2016 23:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 23:32 marvellosity wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:30 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
like my question was 100% legit, if i start making shit up about someone i know well on here, i'm gonna get called out on it and it's a lot more trouble than its worth

hence my question to you asking why he would call you out on something that isn't true / he can't prove

that's why i ask the question


This I don't understand either.

I don't know what's the question you're referring to.

i can't be bothered to explain if you can't just read the few posts preceding this where i quoted you directly saying "i don't get why you asked the question"

anyway

##Vote: Palmar

Highest % mafia right now

Hm. Interesting. What I am seeing so far is standard useless palmar. Which can basically mean anything.


He's rolled mafia a lot lately

He signed up minutes after me, after I haven't played in 4 months, makes a comment about enjoying playing with me

Decides not to engage

Don't like it. Think he'd want to at least play with me. Think lurking is a good way for him to hide because people say things like you just did.

Obviously this is all just conjecture / my feelings but I like it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 04 2016 14:42 GMT
#387
On October 04 2016 23:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 22:00 Superbia wrote:
For serious though. There's a decent meta reason why I want to stay in the sidelines (as town—but also regardless of alignment) d1.

because when you play for realsies as mafia everyone catches you on day 1?


What an asshole.

Notrly though. It was mafia fatigue! I blame it all on the mafia fatigue.
Minimal effort.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 04 2016 14:43 GMT
#388
On October 04 2016 23:41 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 23:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:32 marvellosity wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:30 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
like my question was 100% legit, if i start making shit up about someone i know well on here, i'm gonna get called out on it and it's a lot more trouble than its worth

hence my question to you asking why he would call you out on something that isn't true / he can't prove

that's why i ask the question


This I don't understand either.

I don't know what's the question you're referring to.

i can't be bothered to explain if you can't just read the few posts preceding this where i quoted you directly saying "i don't get why you asked the question"

anyway

##Vote: Palmar

Highest % mafia right now

Hm. Interesting. What I am seeing so far is standard useless palmar. Which can basically mean anything.


He's rolled mafia a lot lately

He signed up minutes after me, after I haven't played in 4 months, makes a comment about enjoying playing with me

Decides not to engage

Don't like it. Think he'd want to at least play with me. Think lurking is a good way for him to hide because people say things like you just did.

Obviously this is all just conjecture / my feelings but I like it

Well, you know him better but I am not sure I would expect town Palmar to be all active and shit just because of that. But I don't mind pressure on him. Pressure on Palmar during the week is always a good thing.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 14:43 GMT
#389
So your argument is that he has fatigue from playing scum too many times in a row and has decided to phone it in for that reason?

Possible, but I don't see a lot in his posts that would lean one way or the other.

I'm relatively confident that he'll slip up if he's scum so I am not worried about him atm.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 04 2016 14:43 GMT
#390
Marv what are your thoughts on the flare?
Minimal effort.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 04 2016 14:45 GMT
#391
On October 04 2016 23:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 23:41 marvellosity wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:32 marvellosity wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:30 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
like my question was 100% legit, if i start making shit up about someone i know well on here, i'm gonna get called out on it and it's a lot more trouble than its worth

hence my question to you asking why he would call you out on something that isn't true / he can't prove

that's why i ask the question


This I don't understand either.

I don't know what's the question you're referring to.

i can't be bothered to explain if you can't just read the few posts preceding this where i quoted you directly saying "i don't get why you asked the question"

anyway

##Vote: Palmar

Highest % mafia right now

Hm. Interesting. What I am seeing so far is standard useless palmar. Which can basically mean anything.


He's rolled mafia a lot lately

He signed up minutes after me, after I haven't played in 4 months, makes a comment about enjoying playing with me

Decides not to engage

Don't like it. Think he'd want to at least play with me. Think lurking is a good way for him to hide because people say things like you just did.

Obviously this is all just conjecture / my feelings but I like it

Well, you know him better but I am not sure I would expect town Palmar to be all active and shit just because of that. But I don't mind pressure on him. Pressure on Palmar during the week is always a good thing.

I'll let you know near eod if I really really want to lynch him, at which point you should listen.

For now, just staking mah space
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
October 04 2016 14:46 GMT
#392
On October 04 2016 23:45 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 23:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:41 marvellosity wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:32 marvellosity wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:30 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
like my question was 100% legit, if i start making shit up about someone i know well on here, i'm gonna get called out on it and it's a lot more trouble than its worth

hence my question to you asking why he would call you out on something that isn't true / he can't prove

that's why i ask the question


This I don't understand either.

I don't know what's the question you're referring to.

i can't be bothered to explain if you can't just read the few posts preceding this where i quoted you directly saying "i don't get why you asked the question"

anyway

##Vote: Palmar

Highest % mafia right now

Hm. Interesting. What I am seeing so far is standard useless palmar. Which can basically mean anything.


He's rolled mafia a lot lately

He signed up minutes after me, after I haven't played in 4 months, makes a comment about enjoying playing with me

Decides not to engage

Don't like it. Think he'd want to at least play with me. Think lurking is a good way for him to hide because people say things like you just did.

Obviously this is all just conjecture / my feelings but I like it

Well, you know him better but I am not sure I would expect town Palmar to be all active and shit just because of that. But I don't mind pressure on him. Pressure on Palmar during the week is always a good thing.

I'll let you know near eod if I really really want to lynch him, at which point you should listen.

For now, just staking mah space

The thing is that I won't be around eod. So there is that. But I am sure you won't need me for that if it comes down to it.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 04 2016 14:46 GMT
#393
On October 04 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:
Marv what are your thoughts on the flare?

Inconclusively town.

Don't think his calix push was particularly shit flingy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 04 2016 14:53 GMT
#394
On October 04 2016 23:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:
Marv what are your thoughts on the flare?

Inconclusively town.

Don't think his calix push was particularly shit flingy


Mafia latching on then?
Minimal effort.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2016 14:53 GMT
#395
On October 04 2016 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:50 Calix wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:26 Calix wrote:
Like if you think that WIFOM is going to work out for you then you're going to have a bad time.

Explain yourself or eat rope.


Clearly I'm coming here and trying to get superbia to actually post relevant stuff so I can get a read on him that isnt predicated on his horrible first 2 posts. To do this I don't actually need to vote in the voting thread. You guys need to get it out of your heads that voting is alignment indicative. The only place it's alignment indicative is when it's the vote to Lynch someone or to Lynch some else that djdnt actually get lynched.


That's detracting from the initial issue. Nobody was objecting to a Superbia vote. We were calling you out on saying that I was scummy while voting for someone else. The fact that the person is Superbia is 0% relevant.

And yes, votes are not AI unless you know what some of the flips are. Thanks mate.

On October 04 2016 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:44 Calix wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:25 Calix wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:17 Calix wrote:
[quote]

What the fuck kind of logic is that? You ask questions to pry into someone's thought processes which you are STILL NOT EXPLAINING.

You stated "Calix is scummy"

You voted for Superbia.

You did not state a scum-read on Superbia.

Why the fuck are you not explaining your vote?

If it's 'lul randum xD' then why are you random-voting over a scum-read?

Obviously I think super is scummy and obviously I dont think it's worth explaining a read on him just yet. Can you propose a reason why I would do this as scum?


Can you explain why you are doing it as town?

I don't have a fucking clue what you are trying to achieve here, dude. It makes no sense to throw down a 'vote' without actually voting and then refusing to explain it, since this draws a stupid amount of attention to you, but you are also aware of this (like I was earlier) so that weakens the argument a little.

So as it stands, my reasoning for both alignments is "you're an idiot"

You're welcome for this incisive analysis.

In your opinion, after his first 2 posts what did you read superbia as? This is going somewhere, please assist


I can't help you out much, lol. I didn't have a read on him with those posts because he said he was planning on lurking on Day 1 in the pre-game so while repeating that is redundant, I just read them as generic "check-in" posts.

Come on you can do better than that. So he makes generic check in posts when it's at least 10 pages of stuff he could actually comment on but he chooses not to? What does that initially say about his alignment?


Why don't you just tell us what you're getting at instead of trying to prompt me into saying things for you? I can see the leading questions from a mile off. I've already said that I think those posts are NAI by themselves, the end.

Spit it out or piss off.

I said my point already.

Im not explaining my vote because I'm not trying to get other people to vote for superbia. Is that so hard to understand? The vote is to pressure superbia and it's only for him.


Calling a vote a pressure vote kills its intent.

Do you have actual reads?

Intent over already.
I think koshi has been skating by on pithy little comments.
I seem to remember other people promising shit but not delivering. I think it's stutters so he's leaning scum. Pretty sure Marv and Palmar are town. They don't give enough of a shit.

Koshi superbusy.
I had a good night of sleep.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
October 04 2016 14:56 GMT
#396
On October 04 2016 23:53 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 23:46 marvellosity wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:
Marv what are your thoughts on the flare?

Inconclusively town.

Don't think his calix push was particularly shit flingy


Mafia latching on then?


What exactly is your argument here? I'm not sure I get you.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 04 2016 15:04 GMT
#397
On October 04 2016 23:56 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 23:53 Superbia wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:46 marvellosity wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:
Marv what are your thoughts on the flare?

Inconclusively town.

Don't think his calix push was particularly shit flingy


Mafia latching on then?


What exactly is your argument here? I'm not sure I get you.


I want marv to draw conclusions from the most interesting thing that has happened this game (if he has, mein apologies, I missed it).
Minimal effort.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 04 2016 15:07 GMT
#398
On October 04 2016 23:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 23:30 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 04 2016 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
like my question was 100% legit, if i start making shit up about someone i know well on here, i'm gonna get called out on it and it's a lot more trouble than its worth

hence my question to you asking why he would call you out on something that isn't true / he can't prove

that's why i ask the question


This I don't understand either.

I don't know what's the question you're referring to.

i can't be bothered to explain if you can't just read the few posts preceding this where i quoted you directly saying "i don't get why you asked the question"

anyway

##Vote: Palmar

Highest % mafia right now

That's rude
Computer says mafia
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 04 2016 15:14 GMT
#399
Calix said that there was no specific evidence she could produce for NU abusing PMs as Mafia, even though she implied NU did this as Mafia before
Holyflare said "produce evidence or die"

Those events happened in that order. Maybe Mafia Holyflare knowingly issued Calix an impossible task to make the narrative for Calix being Mafia stronger? Anyway that's what I was thinking hopefully it makes sense.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 04 2016 15:24 GMT
#400
On October 04 2016 22:11 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 22:11 Superbia wrote:
On October 04 2016 22:10 Calix wrote:
Superbia, just spit it out instead of wasting time and posts with promising stuff -_-


Wow! I am hurt.

HF.
Palmar.

66.67%


Damn, you beat me with the 66%.

I do not agree with Palmar.

I'm not sure I believe this post but whatever
Computer says mafia
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