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That doesn't even make sense with what I said marv, I said you don't believe in a red check and neither do I. Your reaction to go against it being a red check,and voting for me is scummy as it doesn't make sense especially when we have Scott who you think is scum.
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i am as certain as i can be at this stage that damdred is mafia. let's say 95%. and i don't mean a koshi 95%
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I am unsure btw for clarity sake that marv or jat is scum. I am more sure that Scott is and would,be the better solution to,give us more time to make sense,of,the jumble.
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On October 14 2016 02:49 Damdred wrote:
That doesn't even make sense with what I said marv, I said you don't believe in a red check and neither do I. Your reaction to go against it being a red check,and voting for me is scummy as it doesn't make sense especially when we have Scott who you think is scum.
it makes absolute sense. i have to consolidate my votes with town. and unfortunately nu is really very likely to be town.
you should recognise that.
you should also understand my posts. many many many times in the past have i bemoaned that i 'hope' someone i think is playing terribly is mafia. you should know that.
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On October 14 2016 02:51 Damdred wrote:
I am unsure btw for clarity sake that marv or jat is scum. I am more sure that Scott is and would,be the better solution to,give us more time to make sense,of,the jumble.
IF you are town then scott is definitely our lynch for today.
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On October 14 2016 02:49 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 02:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 11 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 07:18 Calix wrote:
So you are voting JAT based on pre-flip associations?
Wow. yes I know not everyone is this good. throw me a bone here guys. One of you mention wanting to kill marv who: a) voted a terrible lynch on day 1, where BOTH ME AND HF noticed bats saying shit that didn't sound like mafia. We both said so. Marv is even better than us two at this tonal townie thing, and he flat out ignored it. b) he voted me on day 2, then became less convinced I was mafia because I don't sound like damn mafia because I'm not one, but instead of doing anything, he just... went afk c) killed hf, which is the obvious marv kill when hf suspected him and everyone thought hf was town. Someone please, put votes on him. I'm moving my vote to marv, and I'm going to see what happens. On October 11 2016 07:23 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 07:19 justanothertownie wrote:
You seriously don't see how I would be hesitant to lynch him after what happened last game?
You seriously think I would defend marv instead of just straight up bussing him when he just completely bails out? well show me. He is 100% mafia this game, so all you have to do is go vote him. There is no universe where this is town marv. On October 11 2016 07:44 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:On October 11 2016 07:39 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 07:36 Calix wrote:
Okay Palmar, let us know when you have some A* contributions instead of trying to lynch an AFK player over yourself, using terrible reasoning everywhere and some whining about how bad everyone else is. This here people is why we'll lose. Remember in the post game, how stupid this post is. ok bye. What about it is stupid? The only thing you provided today is ranting, calling marv mafia and a godawful association read on me. Nothing on anyone else. you know how I feel about everyone else and I'm behind on the game. NU can't concoct all this stupidity as scum so he's town Calix is unnaturally bad, but still, sounded kinda sincere at points so town Koshi, scott and damdred can fall either way. Koshi sounds slightly mafia and scott, maybe. Damdred sounds slightly town marv is scum. On October 09 2016 05:47 Palmar wrote:
Superbia is gonna flip town.
Scum team is a combination of JAT koshi Marv Scott damdred On October 10 2016 02:01 Palmar wrote:
I don't even care about my cred anymore. If I'm fucking wrong I'll just accept it. I keep hedging (Iike calling superbia not the worst lynch out of spite for his lack of effort last night, I then turned around and said he was town, of course).
Calix is 100% town
NU is 100% town
Oats is 100% town
Grack is 80% town
Damdred is 50% town
Koshi is 50% town
Scott is 40% town
Jag is 5% town
Marv is 0% town
two free mafia. gg wp On October 10 2016 02:02 Palmar wrote:On October 10 2016 02:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I pretty much have to conclude that JAT is mafia at this point. and marv On October 11 2016 03:41 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 01:08 justanothertownie wrote:
And palmar. Why on earth is palmar town? You said the same thing about superbia  I am voting obvious mafia JAT. I'm not caught up and will not catch up until day 4 if I'm still alive. I am also willing to vote the other obvious mafia, marv. On October 11 2016 06:23 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 04:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar just told you "I will not care about this lynch at all and vote this guy who is definitely mafia even though I never justified why and never will while there is this other guy who I have actual reasons to scumread". Palmar is not this shit as town. Lol Palmar proposed the same scum-team as Damdred. And Palmar isn’t bad. Jat’s proposed scum-team has Oats in it who is very likely town. Marv has 1 scum-read and it’s not the one he is voting. He’s living off of a green-check. Koshi and Oats are town. I am town. This train on Damdred contains at least one scum in it regardless of if they are bussing or pushing for their final ML. I think Jat is scum everytime for, as Palmar said, being so blind and not noticing that bats, superbia, Oats and Palmar were tonally obvious town. If he was not scum, he would be suspecting marv. But he is not. Either he is scum and marv is town or they are both scum. Ok, I've had enough of this shit. Why the fuck is oats town? Explain it to me. I am mafia for not noticing bats is town? I WAS NOT AROUND. For superbia? He played like shit/his mafia meta demonstrably. You even liked my case. Oats isn't town. Palmar was not obvious town. And marv was willing to lynch him which is usually a good argument for killing him.
He has a town tone and there is no evidence of him being mafia. You've had 92 hours to make a case on him since you scum-read him and have not yet done so.
Palmar was obvious town. Marv did not even scum-read Palmar when he voted for him, so that is invalid.
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On October 14 2016 02:52 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 02:49 Damdred wrote:
That doesn't even make sense with what I said marv, I said you don't believe in a red check and neither do I. Your reaction to go against it being a red check,and voting for me is scummy as it doesn't make sense especially when we have Scott who you think is scum. it makes absolute sense. i have to consolidate my votes with town. and unfortunately nu is really very likely to be town. you should recognise that. you should also understand my posts. many many many times in the past have i bemoaned that i 'hope' someone i think is playing terribly is mafia. you should know that.
Koshi is the most likely to be town in this situation even outside nu wouldn't you agree?
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On October 14 2016 02:53 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 02:49 justanothertownie wrote:On October 14 2016 02:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:On October 11 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 07:18 Calix wrote:
So you are voting JAT based on pre-flip associations?
Wow. yes I know not everyone is this good. throw me a bone here guys. One of you mention wanting to kill marv who: a) voted a terrible lynch on day 1, where BOTH ME AND HF noticed bats saying shit that didn't sound like mafia. We both said so. Marv is even better than us two at this tonal townie thing, and he flat out ignored it. b) he voted me on day 2, then became less convinced I was mafia because I don't sound like damn mafia because I'm not one, but instead of doing anything, he just... went afk c) killed hf, which is the obvious marv kill when hf suspected him and everyone thought hf was town. Someone please, put votes on him. I'm moving my vote to marv, and I'm going to see what happens. On October 11 2016 07:23 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 07:19 justanothertownie wrote:
You seriously don't see how I would be hesitant to lynch him after what happened last game?
You seriously think I would defend marv instead of just straight up bussing him when he just completely bails out? well show me. He is 100% mafia this game, so all you have to do is go vote him. There is no universe where this is town marv. On October 11 2016 07:44 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:On October 11 2016 07:39 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 07:36 Calix wrote:
Okay Palmar, let us know when you have some A* contributions instead of trying to lynch an AFK player over yourself, using terrible reasoning everywhere and some whining about how bad everyone else is. This here people is why we'll lose. Remember in the post game, how stupid this post is. ok bye. What about it is stupid? The only thing you provided today is ranting, calling marv mafia and a godawful association read on me. Nothing on anyone else. you know how I feel about everyone else and I'm behind on the game. NU can't concoct all this stupidity as scum so he's town Calix is unnaturally bad, but still, sounded kinda sincere at points so town Koshi, scott and damdred can fall either way. Koshi sounds slightly mafia and scott, maybe. Damdred sounds slightly town marv is scum. On October 09 2016 05:47 Palmar wrote:
Superbia is gonna flip town.
Scum team is a combination of JAT koshi Marv Scott damdred On October 10 2016 02:01 Palmar wrote:
I don't even care about my cred anymore. If I'm fucking wrong I'll just accept it. I keep hedging (Iike calling superbia not the worst lynch out of spite for his lack of effort last night, I then turned around and said he was town, of course).
Calix is 100% town
NU is 100% town
Oats is 100% town
Grack is 80% town
Damdred is 50% town
Koshi is 50% town
Scott is 40% town
Jag is 5% town
Marv is 0% town
two free mafia. gg wp On October 10 2016 02:02 Palmar wrote:On October 10 2016 02:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I pretty much have to conclude that JAT is mafia at this point. and marv On October 11 2016 03:41 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 01:08 justanothertownie wrote:
And palmar. Why on earth is palmar town? You said the same thing about superbia I am voting obvious mafia JAT. I'm not caught up and will not catch up until day 4 if I'm still alive. I am also willing to vote the other obvious mafia, marv. On October 11 2016 06:23 Palmar wrote:On October 11 2016 04:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar just told you "I will not care about this lynch at all and vote this guy who is definitely mafia even though I never justified why and never will while there is this other guy who I have actual reasons to scumread". Palmar is not this shit as town. Lol Palmar proposed the same scum-team as Damdred. And Palmar isn’t bad. Jat’s proposed scum-team has Oats in it who is very likely town. Marv has 1 scum-read and it’s not the one he is voting. He’s living off of a green-check. Koshi and Oats are town. I am town. This train on Damdred contains at least one scum in it regardless of if they are bussing or pushing for their final ML. I think Jat is scum everytime for, as Palmar said, being so blind and not noticing that bats, superbia, Oats and Palmar were tonally obvious town. If he was not scum, he would be suspecting marv. But he is not. Either he is scum and marv is town or they are both scum. Ok, I've had enough of this shit. Why the fuck is oats town? Explain it to me. I am mafia for not noticing bats is town? I WAS NOT AROUND. For superbia? He played like shit/his mafia meta demonstrably. You even liked my case. Oats isn't town. Palmar was not obvious town. And marv was willing to lynch him which is usually a good argument for killing him. He has a town tone and there is no evidence of him being mafia. You've had 92 hours to make a case on him since you scum-read him and have not yet done so. Palmar was obvious town. Marv did not even scum-read Palmar when he voted for him, so that is invalid.
I gave you reasons ages ago. Does he look like he is trying to figure out the game to you? For the last days oats only came in to put his vote somewhere with no reasoning and vanished again. The guy is just bussing scott and content with it.
Not to mention that there is absolutely 0 evidence for me to be mafia.
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p.s. jat (just read it in nu's post) - superbia wasn't playing to his mafia meta demonstrably, both hf and i commented that superbia was wittier than he normally is as mafia.
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On October 14 2016 02:54 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 02:52 marvellosity wrote:On October 14 2016 02:49 Damdred wrote:
That doesn't even make sense with what I said marv, I said you don't believe in a red check and neither do I. Your reaction to go against it being a red check,and voting for me is scummy as it doesn't make sense especially when we have Scott who you think is scum. it makes absolute sense. i have to consolidate my votes with town. and unfortunately nu is really very likely to be town. you should recognise that. you should also understand my posts. many many many times in the past have i bemoaned that i 'hope' someone i think is playing terribly is mafia. you should know that. Koshi is the most likely to be town in this situation even outside nu wouldn't you agree?
okay, but koshi wasn't here so your point is literally 100% invalid
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On October 14 2016 02:54 marvellosity wrote:
p.s. jat (just read it in nu's post) - superbia wasn't playing to his mafia meta demonstrably, both hf and i commented that superbia was wittier than he normally is as mafia.
He was trying day1, yes. But he was playing his aggressive/whiny mafia style and you can't seriously tell me that his play after day did not look like mafia.
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I hit enter a bit early as usual.
And I understand that you have to vote with town but the angle nu was pushing is not good. And it seems like he is even not quite believing a red check now maybe?
In either case I do understand that, but take a look from my view point. What's more likely (if you know that you are town) are scum more likely to pile on when a town is wrong or vote on a scum buddy.
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On October 14 2016 02:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 02:54 marvellosity wrote:
p.s. jat (just read it in nu's post) - superbia wasn't playing to his mafia meta demonstrably, both hf and i commented that superbia was wittier than he normally is as mafia. He was trying day1, yes. But he was playing his aggressive/whiny mafia style and you can't seriously tell me that his play after day did not look like mafia.
given i've not read a huge amount of day 2 - no, i cannot seriously tell you that 
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On October 14 2016 02:56 Damdred wrote:
I hit enter a bit early as usual.
And I understand that you have to vote with town but the angle nu was pushing is not good. And it seems like he is even not quite believing a red check now maybe?
In either case I do understand that, but take a look from my view point. What's more likely (if you know that you are town) are scum more likely to pile on when a town is wrong or vote on a scum buddy.
your viewpoint is scum's viewpoint though
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On October 14 2016 02:57 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2016 02:56 Damdred wrote:
I hit enter a bit early as usual.
And I understand that you have to vote with town but the angle nu was pushing is not good. And it seems like he is even not quite believing a red check now maybe?
In either case I do understand that, but take a look from my view point. What's more likely (if you know that you are town) are scum more likely to pile on when a town is wrong or vote on a scum buddy. your viewpoint is scum's viewpoint though
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i also don't think (from a personal point of view) that you would even come close to think i am mafia right now due to
1. how easily you townread me at the beginning of the game
2. the fact that after i went afk i came back and have been playing (i don't do this as mafia)
3. due to 1&2, you should be townreading me for the same reasons
4. you also know that yolo lynching Palmar is so far away from my style as mafia
5. this dichotomy you've been pushing that one or the other of Palmar and me is mafia isn't logical.
none of these are convincing to anyone else particularly, but there we go
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for the record i would lynch damdred above scott all day today.
but i can't really see how we're going to avoid lynching scott for 3 successive lynches, so *shrug*
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No, Damd, I still think you've been red-checked.
There's no evidence for you to be town: your defense vs me and Cal was very poor, your votes were bad, and you bread crumbed that you had been red-checked.
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Some of that is making me go maybe you are town and it has been for the past two,cycles marv.
But there are moments when you have tried as scum, though I do doubt that you would try this hard as scum first game back mostly.
As for four, nah we Yolo lynched palmar in imperial while he slept to great success so that's in your wheelhouse with a good team.
All in all regardless of my misgivings I won't consider you until 2 v 1 and considering you are green checked I don't think mafia can let you live.
Also it makes the scum team pre try difficult to pin down. Basically has to be some combination of scott/oats/jat or nu instead of Jat. Which is super difficult. (Unless koshi is playing really well as scum).
Luke I don't think I could see nu scum with jat for instance but I could with oats.
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