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On September 11 2016 01:19 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 01:16 Tumblewood wrote:
I encourage everyone to look past Hf's "infallible logic" and see that he is saying that a player with no more than 5 posts is guaranteed mafia. Hf is not a stupid person, but saying it with such fiery conviction is stupid. I guess you could call that a contradiction, but more importantly this has "pushing a mislynch" written all over it.
my guess at a scumteam so far is hf/palmar/??? (possibly skynx for the dropoff, or Damdred for supporting Hf, or tt if you want to get tinfoily). I like grack's point on Palmar. honestly guys just listen to grack because he is far and away the smartest player this game. I have made super strong pushes just the same as this in many other games. Vivax has also SAID THAT ALREADY IN THIS GAME. Now, you admit it's a contradiction but yoh have failed to comment on my posts saying why it makes him mafia. If you are keen on continuing this push then fucking wreck my logic and show people how I'm mafia instead of these useless pushes that aren't convincing anyone.
no fuck that if I go and wreck your logic suddenly 50 more posts pop up that say that my logic is wrong or some shit and that is exactly what I am trying to avoid
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On September 11 2016 01:23 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 01:19 Holyflare wrote:On September 11 2016 01:16 Tumblewood wrote:
I encourage everyone to look past Hf's "infallible logic" and see that he is saying that a player with no more than 5 posts is guaranteed mafia. Hf is not a stupid person, but saying it with such fiery conviction is stupid. I guess you could call that a contradiction, but more importantly this has "pushing a mislynch" written all over it.
my guess at a scumteam so far is hf/palmar/??? (possibly skynx for the dropoff, or Damdred for supporting Hf, or tt if you want to get tinfoily). I like grack's point on Palmar. honestly guys just listen to grack because he is far and away the smartest player this game. I have made super strong pushes just the same as this in many other games. Vivax has also SAID THAT ALREADY IN THIS GAME. Now, you admit it's a contradiction but yoh have failed to comment on my posts saying why it makes him mafia. If you are keen on continuing this push then fucking wreck my logic and show people how I'm mafia instead of these useless pushes that aren't convincing anyone. no fuck that if I go and wreck your logic suddenly 50 more posts pop up that say that my logic is wrong or some shit and that is exactly what I am trying to avoid
You have no logic.
"I have no reason to town-read Superbia, so I'll lean-town-read him."
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I'm not even here to play the game today. I have 3 simple posts that you need to counter otherwise you come join my lynch.
Just because you can't accept I play this way as any alignment doesn't mean I'm mafia.
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Meh, I remain unconvinced by the given explanations but since everyone seems to be meta-reading fuba as town and all I'm doing by pushing this is pissing everyone else off, I guess I will just have to leave it for now.
One question though to Holyflare. You said in this post that you town-read fuba because he is self-aware about playing like shit...
On September 11 2016 01:10 Holyflare wrote:
I'll tell you why fuba is town so you stop bitching about it and actually do something more useful.
Fuba's point about knowing he plays shit day 1 is self awareness to the max and actually seemed quite honest in that regard. You say it could be mafia making excuses but I didn't think so in the beginning of the game and his play has countered his own meta because he's actually made points about NU.
But when I initially posted the case, one of your responses was to ask me how I would react if I was told that fuba made self-aware comments about his shitty play every game...
On September 10 2016 04:36 Holyflare wrote:Let me ask you Calix, what if he does the same in every game? Does the post become not scummy and not: Show nested quote +There is this post where he sets himself up for making crappy posts for...most of the game.
So Holyflare, where exactly do you stand here?
If fuba makes that comment every game, why are you town-reading him for it?
If fuba doesn't make that comment every game, why did you ask that question in the first place?
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I never said he says that every game it was just to see how you'd react if he plays the same every game (ignoring the post).
I don't even know how fuba plays and I don't really care. That switch from not playing day 1 to inquisitive person that thinks they found a slip and makes posts about it is very hard for mafia to fake.
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On September 11 2016 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I never said he says that every game it was just to see how you'd react if he plays the same every game (ignoring the post).
I don't even know how fuba plays and I don't really care. That switch from not playing day 1 to inquisitive person that thinks they found a slip and makes posts about it is very hard for mafia to fake.
Uh, you DID say that. You just phrased it as a question which implies that fuba makes that kind of comment every game and never said otherwise until now.
How is it a reaction test? The answer is obvious because a behaviour repeated by a player every game means that they do the behaviour regardless of alignment, thus said behaviour is NAI for them. With this in mind, what were you hoping to get out of that?
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Yeah I won't do much today
I'm probably going to:
a) sheep hf
b) lynch hf
That seems like the most reasonable plan. I'll maybe read a post or two by him later
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Sup mofos, I'll cook eat then sit here for rest of the night.
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I might also read the 1st page of the game for glorious 1st post analysis. that's option c
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On September 11 2016 01:35 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I never said he says that every game it was just to see how you'd react if he plays the same every game (ignoring the post).
I don't even know how fuba plays and I don't really care. That switch from not playing day 1 to inquisitive person that thinks they found a slip and makes posts about it is very hard for mafia to fake. Uh, you DID say that. You just phrased it as a question which implies that fuba makes that kind of comment every game and never said otherwise until now. How is it a reaction test? The answer is obvious because a behaviour repeated by a player every game means that they do the behaviour regardless of alignment, thus said behaviour is NAI for them. With this in mind, what were you hoping to get out of that?
No you made a shit case on a town read of mine, perhaps you should read my comment again. You said that fuba os mafia because he's setting himself up to play like shit with that post which is a mafia post.
I'm simply asking if it becomes null if he plays like that every game and also since I got the opposite impression from the post when he posted it.
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On September 11 2016 01:36 Skynx wrote:
Sup mofos, I'll cook eat then sit here for rest of the night.
Catch up and make posts instead of posting from behind the game permanently please. I'm suspicious of you slightly.
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On September 11 2016 01:38 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 01:35 Calix wrote:On September 11 2016 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I never said he says that every game it was just to see how you'd react if he plays the same every game (ignoring the post).
I don't even know how fuba plays and I don't really care. That switch from not playing day 1 to inquisitive person that thinks they found a slip and makes posts about it is very hard for mafia to fake. Uh, you DID say that. You just phrased it as a question which implies that fuba makes that kind of comment every game and never said otherwise until now. How is it a reaction test? The answer is obvious because a behaviour repeated by a player every game means that they do the behaviour regardless of alignment, thus said behaviour is NAI for them. With this in mind, what were you hoping to get out of that? No you made a shit case on a town read of mine, perhaps you should read my comment again. You said that fuba os mafia because he's setting himself up to play like shit with that post which is a mafia post. I'm simply asking if it becomes null if he plays like that every game and also since I got the opposite impression from the post when he posted it.
I fail to see how it's a shit case, especially to you, when you made similar points against TT and Grack.
I didn't say "fuba is mafia because he made X comment" - that is only a PART of my case against him. Even if he hadn't made that comment, the rest of my points stand strong.
You didn't ask about wherever it becomes null. (you said 'not scummy' which is not the same thing as 'null')
You haven't said what you were hoping or expecting to get from my reaction.
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On September 11 2016 01:35 Palmar wrote:
Yeah I won't do much today
I'm probably going to:
a) sheep hf
b) lynch hf
That seems like the most reasonable plan. I'll maybe read a post or two by him later
Palmar start on page 34 and read about 5 pages. That will give you a good taste of both options.
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Calix, since you don't s-r the Vivax anymore and are leaving fuba alone for today, who's in your sights for today's lynch?
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Retracting my scumread on fuba, his bigger posts look fairly townie.
I'm still open to a super lynch (where might he be) if any of you want to endorse this.
Otherwise I'll vote TT who still didn't post for like an entire day, feels coinflippy though. I'll need to check something.
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Calix/Damdred lynch is not happening, so I may sheep Vivax in what he does.
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On September 11 2016 01:43 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 01:38 Holyflare wrote:On September 11 2016 01:35 Calix wrote:On September 11 2016 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I never said he says that every game it was just to see how you'd react if he plays the same every game (ignoring the post).
I don't even know how fuba plays and I don't really care. That switch from not playing day 1 to inquisitive person that thinks they found a slip and makes posts about it is very hard for mafia to fake. Uh, you DID say that. You just phrased it as a question which implies that fuba makes that kind of comment every game and never said otherwise until now. How is it a reaction test? The answer is obvious because a behaviour repeated by a player every game means that they do the behaviour regardless of alignment, thus said behaviour is NAI for them. With this in mind, what were you hoping to get out of that? No you made a shit case on a town read of mine, perhaps you should read my comment again. You said that fuba os mafia because he's setting himself up to play like shit with that post which is a mafia post. I'm simply asking if it becomes null if he plays like that every game and also since I got the opposite impression from the post when he posted it. I fail to see how it's a shit case, especially to you, when you made similar points against TT and Grack. I didn't say "fuba is mafia because he made X comment" - that is only a PART of my case against him. Even if he hadn't made that comment, the rest of my points stand strong. You didn't ask about wherever it becomes null. (you said 'not scummy' which is not the same thing as 'null') You haven't said what you were hoping or expecting to get from my reaction.
I've given you what I've thought there's nothing more to discuss here.
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It's cause I'm town and the scum team is scared of me.
Boo.
Also think palmar might be town rip the dream.
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If you think my points on tt and grack and yours on fuba were anything alike then I have no idea what game you're reading.
Grack was purely association with tt because of all the hard defending and chainsaw posts, many sins. I still actually am sort of unsure of grack still despite calling him mafia.
Tt is a massive lapse in thought process, forced entry etc etc.
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On September 11 2016 01:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Calix, since you don't s-r the Vivax anymore and are leaving fuba alone for today, who's in your sights for today's lynch?
Good question. I don't have a fucking clue.
Grackaroni is looking townier the more he posts; nobody else scum-reads fuba; I town-read Vivax, you, Superbia, Palmar (shitty town-read but still); TT's train is shitty and if he's scum, then the scum are doing a horrendous job at diverting it (hardly anyone has questioned it which makes me wary)...I'm starting to feel like a lot of the scum are among the lurkers and I don't know how to sort them.
Either that, or they are the sort who are good at looking townie on Day 1.
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