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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
September 10 2016 16:23 GMT
#801
On September 11 2016 01:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 01:16 Tumblewood wrote:
I encourage everyone to look past Hf's "infallible logic" and see that he is saying that a player with no more than 5 posts is guaranteed mafia. Hf is not a stupid person, but saying it with such fiery conviction is stupid. I guess you could call that a contradiction, but more importantly this has "pushing a mislynch" written all over it.
my guess at a scumteam so far is hf/palmar/??? (possibly skynx for the dropoff, or Damdred for supporting Hf, or tt if you want to get tinfoily). I like grack's point on Palmar. honestly guys just listen to grack because he is far and away the smartest player this game.


I have made super strong pushes just the same as this in many other games. Vivax has also SAID THAT ALREADY IN THIS GAME.

Now, you admit it's a contradiction but yoh have failed to comment on my posts saying why it makes him mafia.

If you are keen on continuing this push then fucking wreck my logic and show people how I'm mafia instead of these useless pushes that aren't convincing anyone.

no fuck that if I go and wreck your logic suddenly 50 more posts pop up that say that my logic is wrong or some shit and that is exactly what I am trying to avoid
good times for all
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 10 2016 16:25 GMT
#802
On September 11 2016 01:23 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 01:19 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 01:16 Tumblewood wrote:
I encourage everyone to look past Hf's "infallible logic" and see that he is saying that a player with no more than 5 posts is guaranteed mafia. Hf is not a stupid person, but saying it with such fiery conviction is stupid. I guess you could call that a contradiction, but more importantly this has "pushing a mislynch" written all over it.
my guess at a scumteam so far is hf/palmar/??? (possibly skynx for the dropoff, or Damdred for supporting Hf, or tt if you want to get tinfoily). I like grack's point on Palmar. honestly guys just listen to grack because he is far and away the smartest player this game.


I have made super strong pushes just the same as this in many other games. Vivax has also SAID THAT ALREADY IN THIS GAME.

Now, you admit it's a contradiction but yoh have failed to comment on my posts saying why it makes him mafia.

If you are keen on continuing this push then fucking wreck my logic and show people how I'm mafia instead of these useless pushes that aren't convincing anyone.

no fuck that if I go and wreck your logic suddenly 50 more posts pop up that say that my logic is wrong or some shit and that is exactly what I am trying to avoid


You have no logic.

"I have no reason to town-read Superbia, so I'll lean-town-read him."
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 16:26 GMT
#803
I'm not even here to play the game today. I have 3 simple posts that you need to counter otherwise you come join my lynch.

Just because you can't accept I play this way as any alignment doesn't mean I'm mafia.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 16:28 GMT
#804
Meh, I remain unconvinced by the given explanations but since everyone seems to be meta-reading fuba as town and all I'm doing by pushing this is pissing everyone else off, I guess I will just have to leave it for now.

One question though to Holyflare. You said in this post that you town-read fuba because he is self-aware about playing like shit...

On September 11 2016 01:10 Holyflare wrote:
I'll tell you why fuba is town so you stop bitching about it and actually do something more useful.

Fuba's point about knowing he plays shit day 1 is self awareness to the max and actually seemed quite honest in that regard. You say it could be mafia making excuses but I didn't think so in the beginning of the game and his play has countered his own meta because he's actually made points about NU.


But when I initially posted the case, one of your responses was to ask me how I would react if I was told that fuba made self-aware comments about his shitty play every game...

On September 10 2016 04:36 Holyflare wrote:
Let me ask you Calix, what if he does the same in every game? Does the post become not scummy and not:

Show nested quote +
There is this post where he sets himself up for making crappy posts for...most of the game.


So Holyflare, where exactly do you stand here?

If fuba makes that comment every game, why are you town-reading him for it?

If fuba doesn't make that comment every game, why did you ask that question in the first place?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 16:30 GMT
#805
I never said he says that every game it was just to see how you'd react if he plays the same every game (ignoring the post).

I don't even know how fuba plays and I don't really care. That switch from not playing day 1 to inquisitive person that thinks they found a slip and makes posts about it is very hard for mafia to fake.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 16:35 GMT
#806
On September 11 2016 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I never said he says that every game it was just to see how you'd react if he plays the same every game (ignoring the post).

I don't even know how fuba plays and I don't really care. That switch from not playing day 1 to inquisitive person that thinks they found a slip and makes posts about it is very hard for mafia to fake.


Uh, you DID say that. You just phrased it as a question which implies that fuba makes that kind of comment every game and never said otherwise until now.

How is it a reaction test? The answer is obvious because a behaviour repeated by a player every game means that they do the behaviour regardless of alignment, thus said behaviour is NAI for them. With this in mind, what were you hoping to get out of that?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 10 2016 16:35 GMT
#807
Yeah I won't do much today

I'm probably going to:

a) sheep hf
b) lynch hf

That seems like the most reasonable plan. I'll maybe read a post or two by him later
Computer says mafia
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
September 10 2016 16:36 GMT
#808
Sup mofos, I'll cook eat then sit here for rest of the night.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 10 2016 16:36 GMT
#809
I might also read the 1st page of the game for glorious 1st post analysis. that's option c
Computer says mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 16:38 GMT
#810
On September 11 2016 01:35 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I never said he says that every game it was just to see how you'd react if he plays the same every game (ignoring the post).

I don't even know how fuba plays and I don't really care. That switch from not playing day 1 to inquisitive person that thinks they found a slip and makes posts about it is very hard for mafia to fake.


Uh, you DID say that. You just phrased it as a question which implies that fuba makes that kind of comment every game and never said otherwise until now.

How is it a reaction test? The answer is obvious because a behaviour repeated by a player every game means that they do the behaviour regardless of alignment, thus said behaviour is NAI for them. With this in mind, what were you hoping to get out of that?


No you made a shit case on a town read of mine, perhaps you should read my comment again. You said that fuba os mafia because he's setting himself up to play like shit with that post which is a mafia post.

I'm simply asking if it becomes null if he plays like that every game and also since I got the opposite impression from the post when he posted it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 16:40 GMT
#811
On September 11 2016 01:36 Skynx wrote:
Sup mofos, I'll cook eat then sit here for rest of the night.


Catch up and make posts instead of posting from behind the game permanently please. I'm suspicious of you slightly.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 16:43 GMT
#812
On September 11 2016 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 01:35 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I never said he says that every game it was just to see how you'd react if he plays the same every game (ignoring the post).

I don't even know how fuba plays and I don't really care. That switch from not playing day 1 to inquisitive person that thinks they found a slip and makes posts about it is very hard for mafia to fake.


Uh, you DID say that. You just phrased it as a question which implies that fuba makes that kind of comment every game and never said otherwise until now.

How is it a reaction test? The answer is obvious because a behaviour repeated by a player every game means that they do the behaviour regardless of alignment, thus said behaviour is NAI for them. With this in mind, what were you hoping to get out of that?


No you made a shit case on a town read of mine, perhaps you should read my comment again. You said that fuba os mafia because he's setting himself up to play like shit with that post which is a mafia post.

I'm simply asking if it becomes null if he plays like that every game and also since I got the opposite impression from the post when he posted it.


I fail to see how it's a shit case, especially to you, when you made similar points against TT and Grack.

I didn't say "fuba is mafia because he made X comment" - that is only a PART of my case against him. Even if he hadn't made that comment, the rest of my points stand strong.

You didn't ask about wherever it becomes null. (you said 'not scummy' which is not the same thing as 'null')

You haven't said what you were hoping or expecting to get from my reaction.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
September 10 2016 16:45 GMT
#813
On September 11 2016 01:35 Palmar wrote:
Yeah I won't do much today

I'm probably going to:

a) sheep hf
b) lynch hf

That seems like the most reasonable plan. I'll maybe read a post or two by him later

Palmar start on page 34 and read about 5 pages. That will give you a good taste of both options.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 10 2016 16:47 GMT
#814
Calix, since you don't s-r the Vivax anymore and are leaving fuba alone for today, who's in your sights for today's lynch?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
September 10 2016 16:48 GMT
#815
Retracting my scumread on fuba, his bigger posts look fairly townie.
I'm still open to a super lynch (where might he be) if any of you want to endorse this.

Otherwise I'll vote TT who still didn't post for like an entire day, feels coinflippy though. I'll need to check something.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 10 2016 16:50 GMT
#816
Calix/Damdred lynch is not happening, so I may sheep Vivax in what he does.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 16:52 GMT
#817
On September 11 2016 01:43 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
On September 11 2016 01:35 Calix wrote:
On September 11 2016 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I never said he says that every game it was just to see how you'd react if he plays the same every game (ignoring the post).

I don't even know how fuba plays and I don't really care. That switch from not playing day 1 to inquisitive person that thinks they found a slip and makes posts about it is very hard for mafia to fake.


Uh, you DID say that. You just phrased it as a question which implies that fuba makes that kind of comment every game and never said otherwise until now.

How is it a reaction test? The answer is obvious because a behaviour repeated by a player every game means that they do the behaviour regardless of alignment, thus said behaviour is NAI for them. With this in mind, what were you hoping to get out of that?


No you made a shit case on a town read of mine, perhaps you should read my comment again. You said that fuba os mafia because he's setting himself up to play like shit with that post which is a mafia post.

I'm simply asking if it becomes null if he plays like that every game and also since I got the opposite impression from the post when he posted it.


I fail to see how it's a shit case, especially to you, when you made similar points against TT and Grack.

I didn't say "fuba is mafia because he made X comment" - that is only a PART of my case against him. Even if he hadn't made that comment, the rest of my points stand strong.

You didn't ask about wherever it becomes null. (you said 'not scummy' which is not the same thing as 'null')

You haven't said what you were hoping or expecting to get from my reaction.


I've given you what I've thought there's nothing more to discuss here.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 10 2016 16:54 GMT
#818
It's cause I'm town and the scum team is scared of me.

Boo.

Also think palmar might be town rip the dream.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 10 2016 16:55 GMT
#819
If you think my points on tt and grack and yours on fuba were anything alike then I have no idea what game you're reading.

Grack was purely association with tt because of all the hard defending and chainsaw posts, many sins. I still actually am sort of unsure of grack still despite calling him mafia.

Tt is a massive lapse in thought process, forced entry etc etc.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 10 2016 16:55 GMT
#820
On September 11 2016 01:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Calix, since you don't s-r the Vivax anymore and are leaving fuba alone for today, who's in your sights for today's lynch?


Good question. I don't have a fucking clue.

Grackaroni is looking townier the more he posts; nobody else scum-reads fuba; I town-read Vivax, you, Superbia, Palmar (shitty town-read but still); TT's train is shitty and if he's scum, then the scum are doing a horrendous job at diverting it (hardly anyone has questioned it which makes me wary)...I'm starting to feel like a lot of the scum are among the lurkers and I don't know how to sort them.

Either that, or they are the sort who are good at looking townie on Day 1.
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