EPTYou should go by the timestamps when you put the cursor over the "hours ago" part - this is too host dependent and I would not recommend this idea.
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You should go by the timestamps when you put the cursor over the "hours ago" part - this is too host dependent and I would not recommend this idea. | ||
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On August 25 2016 13:08 DanelerH wrote: /in Would anyone happen to have any Day 1 advice? I'm rather new to the game and the games I've played have mostly consisted of newer players where the general consensus is to just skip Day 1. I disagree with this and want to learn more about what can be done. I do not like day 1, that's why I like to /replace  As the movers and shakers of the game of mafia know, a successful early position is a useful one. A useful position is a popular one. Political support allows you to turn the heat on your suspects, put the pressure on them, see the factions form as the red seas split between your crew and their crew. You want to inspire, argue, bargain or bully everyone out of neutrality and into your way of seeing things, no matter how shallow or devoid of content it actually is, because generating new content alone is a pro-town hallmark in this fragile beginning. Be advised that the popularity of your stance will entirely depend on the makeup of the players involved. Now, once proper positions are established, then consolidated to one person's vision in the form of a bandwagon leaning dangerously to lynch, the chips start falling into place. Source | ||
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On August 26 2016 04:10 prplhz wrote: is a grandfather the same as a godfather #1 Cop, Medic vs. Grandfather, Goon and Roleblocker #2 Cop, Vigilante vs. Grandfather, Goon and Roleblocker #3 Cop, Veteran vs. Grandfather, Goon and Roleblocker I'm assuming it is since Godfather is listed in the roles, just a misspelling/autocorrect. | ||
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On August 25 2016 14:54 Trfel wrote: Scott, play? I'll play if you play. And if this starts soon. | ||
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On August 28 2016 07:39 Tictock wrote: /conform Pregame excuse: I plan to get sucked into WoW a fair bit this week with Legion launching HAHA I sold my account in Cata and never looked back | ||
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On August 29 2016 05:59 Trfel wrote: Beentheredonethat is the worst cohost on TL. I didn't think he would be cruel enough to make me mafia two games in a row  Hmmmm- would Trfel be this bold? Or a big bag of WIFOM? | ||
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On August 29 2016 06:25 Palmar wrote: 1st page analysis suggests Rels is 100% mafia. Palmar playing on a weekend is extremely suspicious. | ||
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On August 29 2016 06:33 Palmar wrote: Ah fantastic. No, it's absolutely not a meta thing. You see, one of the most underrated difficult things to do in mafia is to "enter" the thread. Rels' entrance was, unlike just about everyone else on the frontpage, completely unattached to the game or to anything else going on in it. If he was in the thread at the time, he definitely had the time to read the like... 5? posts that had been posted, or at least stuck around to say one or two more things. But no, he came into the thread, because there is an inherent pressure on people to actually participate in threads, especially mafia feel like "I must post". Yet he clearly had no real will or intention to stay in the thread, as his silence since that one greeting proves. He is, of the people that posted early, by far the most likely to be mafia. So just for fun, I checked Rel's two last games as Mafia that are in the database -http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=494436&user=Rels&view=all http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=494873&user=Rels&view=all So one was Palmar's witch game where he comes in and starts talking about game setup crap for an entrance (well can't really do that here) and the other he starts just talking shit Rels doesn't enter games with any information, he usually just talks. This could be a good idea. | ||
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On August 29 2016 06:44 disformation wrote: Eh, what do you think of Trfel? Am I going full OMGUS on a town here, cause he is pushing me over nothing, or is he scum pushing me over nothing? Would actually like some pressure on Rels, so he comes back and actually plays. He saw how townie you played in the last game, did he build a lot of respect from you of it, because I would think he would find easier targets, you know what I mean? | ||
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On August 29 2016 07:07 Race Bannon wrote: I hope the host provided the scumteam with the VT flavor, or this will be a concise town victory. This post doesn't make any sense. It's in the OP. Did you roll mafia again? | ||
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On August 29 2016 07:38 Holyflare wrote: ##vote disformation Looks like you're not my buddy this game... How sad | ||
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On August 29 2016 10:10 DanelerH wrote: I don't know if this is how xe normally plays, but I am currently suspicious of Koshi. Out of 27 posts so far, 16 of them were irrelevant and uncontributive. Out of the 11 that are a bit more contributive, two of them are cause for immediate suspicion: + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2016 07:02 Koshi wrote: If anybody is interested. I don't think Tfrel has the balls to come out and claim scum. He was superscared last game as mafia. I would be VERY surprised if he turned that around so fast. Almost 100% lock town tbh. Five of them are voting for Tumblewood without adding anything: + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote: Tumblewood/Rels prime suspects. On August 29 2016 07:15 Koshi wrote: I don't like the read. Seems forced. Face value read. On August 29 2016 07:17 Koshi wrote: Maybe that isn't the best explanation but you just gotta believe. On August 29 2016 07:20 Koshi wrote: Ohh I know it: He makes a really forced read on Tfrel and then adds "oh and Vivax is town" to get away with the forced read and get some extra cred. After xyr first vote, xe almost immediately switches to someone else, then back to the first vote: + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2016 07:52 Koshi wrote: Going to vote Tumblewood. If he is mafia I am confirmed greatest player alive. ##unvote ##vote Tumblewood On August 29 2016 07:59 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote disformation Goddamn. I had spidersenses going off on one of those posts as well but ignored them. But I like that read even more than mine. On August 29 2016 08:02 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##Tumblewood I am going to stick with my own read. Maybe I like it a bit more after all. Even though that were some superpoor reads from disfo. ##vote Koshi Tell me more why those two posts cause for immediate suspicion. + Show Spoiler + I had a rough thought that the two could be mafia as well, so I wasn't so off on that second post from Koshi | ||
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On August 29 2016 10:33 Holyflare wrote: Also, if you're using this metric why are you going after Koshi and not hopping aboard the Disformation is mafia train with me? None of disformation's post can be mistaken for jokes, a lot of them defend people (Rels) and then scum lean them (based off a 2 letter post....)? Also, everyone that is following the Palmar wagon on Rels and has said nothing more is in major cop out mode and I will be coming after you big time. Please do, I'm sorry your mafia bud posted two letters and went to sleep and now you have to defend him (I'm joking...somewhat | ||
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On August 29 2016 10:39 geript wrote: This is the most interesting post so far. I'm surprised Palmar doesn't want to lynch Trfel; usually, he'd be more than happy to flip someone he doesn't think is town in hopes to confirm himself. ![[image loading]](https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/71378636.jpg) | ||
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On August 29 2016 10:59 Tumblewood wrote: wow this is a bad game even by my low standards. can someone carry me Umm, I think the game has been going decently well. Every body has posted at least once, and I started my spreadsheet and have notes for everybody. Could you tell me more? | ||
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On August 29 2016 06:47 disformation wrote: Yes Vivax much town. wow. Maybe the others have a point - you have a town on Vivax and a scumread on Rels - anything else? | ||
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On August 29 2016 11:42 Tictock wrote: Scott, whats got you so active this game? I mean I like it, it's just not what I'm used to. I read the posts I and others made about D1 earlier in the thread. - I never liked d1, but geript's and the one I linked made a lot of sense. You should read them if you have not already TLDR of them - get everyone to not be a null | ||
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On August 29 2016 12:05 Tictock wrote: Yep that's what I got from skimming them. And geript is a cool dude who should post more... when he can I guess.... sigh He works in the medical industry and I'm confident he will come back with reads after work. | ||
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On August 29 2016 12:14 Tictock wrote: By the way Scott... What did you make of Palmar's reasoning on RB? I saw it a different way, but it makes a lot of sense from Palmar's PoV as well. Race is still in my mafia pool. It's a weekend, and I'm still weird on Palmar posting at all to be honest. | ||
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On August 29 2016 11:45 Tumblewood wrote: why is that a townlean ... OH SHIT tinfoil here, Scott is scum and intentionally dropping that he he's using a spreadsheet for town cred or not, maybe *noted* | ||
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On August 29 2016 21:50 Vivax wrote: Methinks we are all on a wrong track atm. We were until I found enlightenment. Spoilered road to enlightenment. + Show Spoiler + I thought to myself "why are you wrong so many times on D1 Vivax?Why?". The answer is that mafia is a hard game, best played after carefully finding out how mafia plays in finished games. So I went ahead and read a bit of Who needs 72 hours anyway mafia with the Rels Grack and TUmble scum team. Rels entered the thread with a qt joke and talking about mechanics. Grack was the most interesting cause I found someone to compare him to in this game. Tumble was mostly lazily throwing around reads. So I'll go right ahead and tell you who our D1 lynch is. It's scott. What I noticed in Grack in the other game was that he tended to attach to a lot of issues simultaneously by posting semi contributive posts that tended to end with questions , then he would jump to other issues the actual townies were talking about without pursuing the previously happened discussion. He would also occasionally post jokish stuff. So if I had to make a summary of how mafia played: - no own agenda, just reacting to townies and their topics. - no committment to what he said. - liked opportunities to start talking about hogwash. - + one could go on about finding similarities. Anyway, let me proceed with formulating how all of this actually makes scott mafia. THE CASE ON SCOTT ![[image loading]](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/51/56/c4/5156c4785945c90f11b36d97ed244d0c.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://media0.giphy.com/media/1VI11KXvGKZ8c/200_s.gif) Question that doesn't show any own opinion and is left unattended for the rest of his posts. It was just the hot topic at the time so he drops it to appear invested. Random reactive question that seems irrelevant even to himself. Check. Simply mirrors what Koshi said in his next post. Apparently thinks I'm mafia with Trfel but so far he didn't even spell it out once. Low committment to his declared opinion. Check. Random low seriousness post. Check. Just for fun he checks Rels last two games. He comes to a completely different conclusion than Palmar. Bolded. "Wait, Rels actually just talks about unimportant stuff as mafia early".BUT "Palmar could have a good idea" even though what Palmar is saying is that Rels doesn't talk. Appeasing and weak opinion that isn't in line with his findings. Check. I have trouble understanding this but I think what scott is saying here is that Trfel would find easier targets as mafia. Anyway this is his chance to get back to talk about Trfel's entrance but he doesn't take it even though he appeared to be interested into it earlier. Another reactionary post to (what I think) a townie said. Check. Not "This post doesn't make any sense, you are mafia!", but "are you mafia again?". Hiding behind questions to not have to do anything even with a good reason to. Check. His buddy? How is HF even supposed to be his buddy. Scott doesn't have an own agenda HF could support. Check. Random question. Useless question. COol, now he's talking about our timezones. He apparently thinks that knowing Danielers timezone he can get information about his alignment? Random questions. Random questions. Back to the earlier posts, don't you think he should have me and Trfel as scummy? Do you see anything of the sort in his later posts? Nope . Rest of his filter is short enough that you can go through it by yourself, but scott is mafiAAAAAAAA and we have to lynch him. Pls help me lynch him town  So the thing I need to figure out is why you posted this "case" - You had a slight townlean on you, so do you actually believe in it because you are town, or are people getting on the right track and you need to distract them (but you voted #2 on Rels, so Im doubtful it's because you and rels would be teammates then) I love how you make me asking about D's time zone as you did - I wanted to know if he was in the Europe crowd or the NA/US crowd, that's it | ||
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On August 30 2016 05:37 Holyflare wrote: Enough talking about geript and tw, let's focus on you know, the rest of the game? Dane comes in and can only focuses on one person to vote (geript) but it's basically a sheep, returns and seems annoyed that they got called out and maintain that they are still voting geript when voti I wasn't a fan of this either - I didn't like the geript case all that much to be honest. He seems a bit scared to post, you know what I mean? I'm down for lynching Tumble as well - Rels WTF you at?!? | ||
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On August 30 2016 06:08 Race Bannon wrote: Ok, I've had it with the references to that game. vote: Koshi Best case all game..../s | ||
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On August 30 2016 06:47 Vivax wrote: Koshi said mafia is disconnected from the flow of the thread. I disagree. Grack in 72h wasn't disconnected from it, he was just following it but never having a strong opinion about anything. Pretty much what scott was doing in this game to a tee. Apparently he agreed with disfo about me and Trfel being buds together or something but that line of thought is not pursued in the slightest afterwards. I'm just repeating myself I think so I'll keep sitting here until scott dies, I might just sheep Palmar or HF later but I'm not afraid of being the only vote on scott at EoD if I feel like it. So I dnu. Vote scott or gtfo for now. The case stands and so far I've only seen stronlgy subjective remarks to it that don't match my level of effort in making it in the slightest and will be dismissed as such. Who are the other mafia? When I flip town can we lynch you? | ||
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On August 30 2016 06:53 Vivax wrote: One more thing that came to my mind seeing the votecount. It's already mafia indicative that he's still sitting on the Rels wagon when it lost steam. Townies all went looking for better stuff when they had more information available. Palmar gave potential mafia a very easy wagon to switch to, but a hard one to get away from without putting in effort. The remnants you're seeing on the Rels wagon are the fishlets who got stuck in the bait and don't have the muscle to break free. I'll bother about making a call on TT later cause until scott dies I'm in a strike. You are just really throwing everything and seeing what will stick, aren't you? I didn't like the geript case so I wasn't going to change my vote for that. Rels (well until a half an hour ago) still had not posted. I could change my vote to you if it makes you feel better, but I'd rather wait for Rels to respond. | ||
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On August 30 2016 08:31 Rels wrote: Caught up. I want to lynch one of: - scott: see Vivax case. Very disconnected to any pushes this game but posts random questions + have a very bad reason to vote me, since his "meta analysis" should indicate Palmar's "reason" to push me was not supported by meta, yet he acted like it did. As a counter to Koshi, scott has an habit of making spreadsheet so it's not impossible he's making one as town to replicate his meta. - tumble: not involved in the game. Has random posts about different things / people but there is no continuous thought process to be seen. He's just posting whatever is in his head, which is scum indicative. In particular, his TT post was one I liked and agreed with, but like everything else he posted about he posted about something else afterwards. - TT: I had the exact same impression Tumble posted about. He's reasonnable but, having played with him quite a few times, his "nice" tone matches his scum meta. As town he will not care for what people thinks about him and just post stuff about finding scum. - geript: two big posts that are meh and contains two things that don't make sense. First, the thing above about Trfel. Second, the thing about RB being likely townie but being in his scumlist. His explanation makes little sense, he should use every information at his disposal to find scum. I know I find RB's posts about his PM to be borderline cheating but he didn't do it on purpose and he's confirmed town now. So it's kind of interesting that - [*] Rels (2) - [*] Trfel (0) - [*] disformation (1) - [*] Tumblewood (2) - [*] Koshi (0) - [*] geript (2) - Palmar, [*] scott31337 (1) - Vivax [*] TicTock (1) - Tumblewood [/list] Not voting (4) - Race Bannon, Rels, Trfel, disformation [blue][b] Are the votes right now, Rels votes for me, Making it 2-2-2-2, but Tumble and Geript he's willing to lynch too. Both people voting for Rels he wants to lynch. I'm not totally sure what to make of it, but it's duly noted. | ||
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On August 30 2016 23:21 Race Bannon wrote: Rereading the thread now, I'm at #180; having fun. As soon as I get bored I'll pause to post some reads. Expect awesomeness. Ok, I've decided not to post the above, am writing this instead and plan to copy it and keep reading and adding. When I will eventually paste and post, it will look and feel like this giant snowball of scumbarelaying nightmare for scum. And then I'll vote scum, superlatively formatted. This. I expect scum to slip when they're being questioned about a post, as opposed to during the initial post. In this case I think Vivax gave himself away when he failed to censor out the wording which indicates a conspiratorial approach to this conversation. He says "other reasons", as if fostering an air of mystery around the faction which he is a part of, whereas town would ask "is he more protective of Rels because of mafia reasons". ##vote: Vivax If Vivax's initial platform for the case on scott (what grack did as scum in 72h) has merit, then I'm entitled to compare Palmar's post with Rels' (also endgaming scum), where he said they should never make use of the quicklynch mechanic. It's in the ballpark of trying to establish an early authoritatively presence in terms of agenda. But frankly I don't think it has merit, for one because I believe Vivax is scum. Meta is very unreliable as base for a case, but in this case it's not even the meta of the suspect, rather some random meta from a recent game; so that's double trouble. Furthermore I'd expect a disciplined townie, which I think Vivax is judging by how he kept his cool during LightningStrike's vulgar, verbal assault on him in Onegu I game, I expect him to let the case speak for itself, instead of showing aggressive bullying tactics, to promote its apparent quality, I believe for the sake of looking townie because emotions are townread more often than not. And again, I feel like he grounded his case on someone else's meta, so objectively speaking it's not going to fly as a real case. If anything I think people make a conscious habbit of rehashing their exact behavioral pattern from their towngames, as scum, in games where the same players are present. So I remember Koshi bringing up the exact same argument about me not having the balls to do whatever I did in my scumgame. Therefore this looks more like a manipulation designed specifically for me to get a meta townread on him, bearing in mind that we've interacted enough for him to catch and try to anchor my attention in this preconceived way. The fact that he voiced and kept claiming suspicion against me, for no reason, speaks for this as well. Anyone who says I'm scummy looks very bad, but for some reason geript is getting more votes, despite Koshi being the scummier of the two from this perspective. The thing about geript is .. to use Koshi's attempt at alignment indication .. would scum geript say he agrees with Palmar and then scumread me like a boss anyway? I think not, and lynching geript today could mean lynching a valuable, methodical asset to town, and one of the biggest threats to scum domination. Do not! I repeat, no lyncherinho geript today.. pl0x I could've said this as vt, pr, scum or sk.. I repeat, it was a wifom reaction test. No. Turn around, walk a few steps and stay put at maybe. This is my Koshi & Vivax are scum addendum. Don't lynch disfo, Holyflare, geript today. Interesting perspective - but do you think if Vivax and Koshi were a team he would reply to Vivax's "case" on me like he did? It just seems really complicated and unneeded. I do not think they are the same alignment. | ||
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On August 31 2016 02:08 Vivax wrote: Tumble now would be a good time to explain why you semi-called Palmar mafia and then refused to explain. Not that it means much to me that you refused, it's more relevant why you and scott were intent on calling him mafia but not going after him for no reason except what could have been sloppy distancing. I never called Palmar mafia - quite the contrary, I called it extremely suspicious that he was posting on a weekend. Are you just making shit up to suit your agenda now? | ||
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On August 31 2016 03:01 Tumblewood wrote: I swear Koshi as soon as you saw a post from me you disliked you made a document where you add every one of my posts and a negative spin on it You misspelled Vivax. | ||
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Palmar Trfel Koshi Disformation Wouldn't Lynch today: Danelerh Holyflare Race Bannon Stil unsure: TicTock WTF: Vivax Would lynch: Tumblewood Rels Geript | ||
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On August 31 2016 03:16 Tumblewood wrote:  Is this your list? | ||
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On August 31 2016 03:49 disformation wrote: hm. Yo scott what happened? It has to do with this posting I read yesterday - he did his "scroll through and point out" thing - but I have no idea where he stands of who he wants to lynch. I don't want to quote everything, but there's three townreads (HF, vivax, Koshi) and he likes your read progression - does he Scumread RB? Like I have no clue besides a few town reads where he stands. He'd be at the bottom of the three I listed. | ||
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On August 31 2016 04:08 Trfel wrote: The part that you removed from the post? Where The above summary of scott31337's play shows no follow through on his reads. Example: If I call Player A scum, and then go on talking about a bunch of other things and never talk about Player A any more, am I actually serious about Player A being scum? And when he finally votes for Tumblewood without saying anything at all, ever, about Tumblewood.... it doesn't seem like he's actually interested in lynching Tumblewood, but just hiding on the biggest wagon. After that, Tumblewood posted his read on Tictock. And I thought about Tumblewood's previous posting more. I don't like Tumblewood all that much, but I'd rather lynch scott31337, I think Well you saw the post I made when it was 2-2-2-2. Rels voted for me, even when the others were leading the votes and said he would lynch these other three. Nobody was interested in Rels anymore after he posted - and at that time, I wasn't down for switching to geript, and TW looks the worst. That's why I changed my vote. I am interested in the lynch - for the information I have, I believe it has the best chance to hit mafia. I think you're town, but it's interesting how you phrase that. | ||
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On August 31 2016 04:17 DanelerH wrote: That's what I thought. I'm starting to become tempted to lynch Scott. You don't know where xe stands? I think the voting thread makes it quite obvious. Geript plans on lynching Disformation. Who said this On August 30 2016 16:46 geript wrote: Expanding on disinformation. Like there's a bunch of reasons to dislike his filter, flip flopping, going with the current, etc. it just feels really natural, especially his progression on my post. and then voted for him? I mean who else does he not like? Geript's a smart guy - if he rolled scum, he knows not to "give town a damn thing". | ||
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On August 31 2016 05:44 DanelerH wrote: There actually is a reason for that. I was going back over everyone's filters and found a few questions I wanted to ask. In each case, there was an answer they could have given that would have directly contradicted something that they said around the post I was quoting. Unfortunately, that ended up being fruitless. Luckily, I noticed Scott had disagreed with lynching Geript, despite having listed xym in the list of people to lynch. Because of this, I'm going to change my vote to Scott. ##vote Scott You know I talked about this when dis asked me about it? On August 31 2016 04:03 scott31337 wrote: It has to do with this posting I read yesterday - he did his "scroll through and point out" thing - but I have no idea where he stands of who he wants to lynch. I don't want to quote everything, but there's three townreads (HF, vivax, Koshi) and he likes your read progression - does he Scumread RB? Like I have no clue besides a few town reads where he stands. He'd be at the bottom of the three I listed. | ||
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So answer your question HF - I was working on a ticket at work and was trying to count votes in the thread - by the time I did, it was 5-4 Rels? I think, Rels was ahead. So I never did change my vote - I wasn't 100% sure if I wanted to, I was like "Welp, If I don't die, there just going to try to mislynch me tomorrow instead, and I'm going to be gone a lot of the game day." I'll be spending some good time in the thread this afternoon - I have an american football game to go to Thursday night, and driving out of town for work on Friday morning for network installs, so I won't be around much after today. I'll be back in a while. | ||
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Getting swamped with a site crapping out - but I'm sort of around. | ||
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The only part I disagree with (but I still think HF is town) is he can post a butt load as mafia too, are you referring to "content" and quality, and not just aruging/spamming,right? | ||
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On September 01 2016 05:11 Palmar wrote: Do you not disagree with the part where he calls two townies mafia? Aka his entire post? From my POV, I know i'm town, and at the beginning - like I posted, I didn't know if Vivax actually believed in his case, or was trying to mislynch me - since the case wasn't that great. Even after how D1 went - he's still pushing it. To me, there's three situations I see - Koshi is mafia and has me pocketed - It's almost in the tinfoil category for me. I just don't see him going thru all this trouble, especially when the votes were close, went after TW, etc. I just don't buy it, it's so much extra work for little gain. Vivax is mafia trying to mislynch me - which started with his "case" - This seems like the more realistic answer. "Oh look in the Mafia DB, Scott got mislynched D1 quite a bit, let's get him!" - He feels I'm weak/low hanging fruit, and this makes the most sense to me. I mean even reading Koshi's case on Vivax makes more sense than Vivax's case. They are both town, tunneled and way off - now if this is true, we're probably fucked anyway unless we get a red cop check - so I don't want to be depressed and think this route. | ||
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On September 01 2016 05:12 Vivax wrote: scott: " ill be around in a while". grand total of 2 super meaningless posts. imagine when hes not goong to be around It's going to take a more than that to rattle me like you did disformation with your bullshit. | ||
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On September 01 2016 06:14 Vivax wrote: back to scott tw palmar team with geript offchance for me then So over half the day two mafia were about to get lynched day 1 and none of the above three ever pushed any shennanies. Mmmhmmm | ||
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On September 01 2016 09:43 Vivax wrote: You're just the hero I deserved. The shitty part about this game is that if you start making inquiries about people who suspect you, they start calling you a discreditor or dismiss all you write as omgus (disfo being the best example). I even admit to suspecting people who throw scum at me almost instinctively, which is why my play is the weakest when a lot of people suspect me. It just creates too many distractions for me to handle. Sure I could just not give a fuck and do it anyway but I've learned that it mostly hurts my already not very popular opinions. So while I do my scott thing you do this Koshi thing and we're gucci. Hope you enjoyed this post of self-awareness. Scum surely can learn something from it when it comes to tilting me. This post has townie feels or you just changed your "meta" so much that I've read before, fuck it man. I'm going back to watching Trump's speech though in my home town. ##Unvote | ||
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On September 01 2016 09:14 Holyflare wrote: I will lynch any of palmar/ticktock today. I don't think much has changed for me to be honest, dane looking a but townier with the last post, scott falling off the face of the earth makes me contemplate joining the wagon of purity. I mean one of his posts was just a list post that wasn't even a list, more vote count colouring. Will read into him more. Uhhh, still anti anything palmar says obviously :D Like, there's a roughly 0% chance palmar joins a tw wagon and likes koshi's case but doesn't realise i made it first and he's sheeping me but ignores that and says I've done nothing :D Tell me more about the wagon of purity. | ||
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On September 01 2016 10:03 Vivax wrote: I hate that EoD analysis is so unreliable to form reads. When I read TW that seems to be magically townread now I could bring up a shitton of things that might make him mafia, but given he was under such pressure no matter his alignment he literally was doing anything he could, without boundaries or concerns for his own appeareance. He votes scott briefly right after townreading him and geript (to save himself), and when EVERYONE ELSE already switched to Rels, he switches with them. Who does he switch with? With his scumreads Koshi and HF from that time. It's such a bad looking play that I'd have vigged him given the chance but since it wasn't really a standard situation I don't feel like I can be very confident using this. Idk geript had a point when he said that it looks like TT is having fun playing the game. And I don't quite see him being the first person to call me mafia. If you really only go by that logic you're admitting to being fully omgus driven. But you need to base your own conclusion as well. From a town PoV - I still do not think it clears TW a whole lot - honestly, I think the shennanies makes him more suspicious. I'm angry you pissed off our cop so much he got frustrated and left the game. I'm angry you are so tunnelled on me when I'm town. I'm angry ya'll lynched our other blue. I'm angry Race got modkilled as town and lost our extra lynch. | ||
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Koshi could be the hottest pocket but I am town. We have a lot of smart individuals here and then Vivax to figure this out. | ||
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On September 01 2016 14:19 geript wrote: It's like mylo +1 right? Geript is an intelligent player who knows this is a scummy post from him. | ||
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On September 01 2016 14:23 Trfel wrote: Hi. I'll talk. It is my last night before going to college though, so I'm not fully present. I think that you are mafia. We can talk about that if you want, or I can temporarily ignore that read. The fact that you're complaining about having no one to talk to makes me doubt the scumread a little bit though. I think Tumblewood and Tictock may be mafia. Still need to filter geript, Vivax, Holyflare, Koshi. And Palmar. Think HF, V, maybe K are town, other two idk. Getting more suspicious of geript, he feels more outside and not leading, but could be wrong. I hope to read all of their filters tonight but might run out of time. But I'd rather know, where are you at? Where's your reads and content? Please speak of "you" in 3rd person so people who read your filters know you are speaking of. I lost morale when disfor lost it when Vivax pissed him off and flipped cop. -1 that I think that town Trfel would just post instead of having to ask and being called out. I think Vivax has the best chances of flipping mafia, #1 even though I liked his "townie" post - fuck him, he screwed our best chances. So yes, fuck him. #2 would be Tumblewood, I know I'm town and the shennanies still do not sit well with me. #3 would be Geirpt but because I know how smart he is and how well he coaches and he if he is town he'd be tearing it up and doesn't care about his "town record" he wants to win. | ||
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On September 01 2016 14:59 Trfel wrote: We are not allowed to no lynch and two mislynches loses us the game. Scott, I don't get why its so upsetting to lose the cop. It's unfortunate and it happened, but that obviously wasn't what Vivax was trying to do. Yes the game is hard but it can still be solved Why do you see it wasn't what he was trying to do? My opinion is he was trying to upset and press people (and if he's mafia and know he's town) press people and piss them off. Dis lost it. On September 01 2016 06:03 Vivax wrote: Outstanding blue performance xD Like I said, I don't give a fuck anymore. I think you're a prodding town. | ||
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On September 01 2016 14:53 geript wrote: Geript just finished working 12 hr shift with 2 admissions including one TPN who had jacked up orders from the hospital. 1/4th of my meds weren't on the cart. All but 3 of my 18 blood sugars I had to call the MD on and get orders for extra insulin. 5 people said their meds were wrong; FYI they weren't but I have to double check. 6 pt's forgot they already had their oxy/tramadol/ambien/ativan/Xanax/norco. Oh and I have "not mandatory" overtime on Sunday now. So take your shitty attitude and shove it up your ass. I'm here and I want to be here contributing. It's ok to double check the math. This is a savior but doesn't advance the game. | ||
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I'll be spending some good time in the thread this afternoon - I have an american football game to go to Thursday night, and driving out of town for work on Friday morning for network installs, so I won't be around much after today. I'm still doing installs, I don't have time to play - but after I get home today things should be normal. | ||
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On September 04 2016 08:48 Trfel wrote: Okay, so I'm going to get a lot of hate for this. But I think I'll use night kill association to say that Holyflare is likely mafia. Night 1, why did disformation die instead of Holyflare? Both of them claimed cop. Honestly I thought that neither of them were the cop, but of the two, I would have guessed that Holyflare's claim is more likely to be true. But disformation was shot and not Holyflare. Also note that while disformation is a good player, Holyflare is widely known as being one of the best on the site. Okay, so maybe it was just a really good read from mafia. Then why not kill Holyflare on Night 2? He's one of the only people still playing the game. And again, he's known as an amazing player and can pull town back from multiple LYLOs, and there's minimal pressure on him. Mafia should never leave him alive over a Vivax that made 3-ish posts all night phase and said he was AFKing on scott31337 or geript. So yeah. I'm not super caught up yet, I'll read things more carefully tonight, but it looks to me like Holyflare is pretty suspicious. I get your point of view in a way, but I was about 90% sure Disfor's claim was out of anger dealing with Vivax and was probably legit. | ||
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On September 03 2016 04:43 Koshi wrote: Post your reads please. Don't post the excel sheet, that is forbidden. Post your reads. This is what I had but it's soo old I'm not sure how it would be helpful, but + Show Spoiler [OLD ASS notepad Spreadsheet] + Race Bannon -2.5 Scumlean - terrible entrance, although Palmar's point "might" work TicTock - US 5.5 townlean - okay thoughts of game Tumblewood 3 US - Nothing impressive Rels 2 -EU- shit entrance DanelerH - US 6 - going after Koshi at beginning, Koshi/Dan prob not a team Vivax -EU 6 - like his thoughts and inquiziveness so far, shit case on me Holyflare - EU 6 - looking better Palmar -Iceland/EU 6.5 good thoughts disformation -EU 6.5 townlean Geript -US 6.5 good posts Trfel - US 6 weird thoughts but dont think he'd be so aggressive Koshi -EU 5.5 - nothing special but wouldn't lynch today | ||
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On September 03 2016 03:41 Vivax wrote: This is slowly getting interesting but also a bit scary, didn't expect so many people to prefer scott over Palmar when nothing new on him was posted, contrary to what it looked like all game long. If Palmar and TW stop wasting their votes we might actually get some info here on voting patterns before it's too late to make meaningful changes to where the thread is going. On September 03 2016 05:15 Vivax wrote: Damn Palmar might even be right on geript. Why is he liking both posts from Trfel and TT even though their relation to my post is completely different? Trfel only asks questions about it, TT calls me scum for it. It's like geript has no own opinion on my post at all, he should at least know if he's agreeing or disagreeing with TT, and normally he should be disagreeing cause he liked my observation. Why does he keep throwing suspicion at Trfel in these long posts but never seems to care about Trfel? You will also notice how geript opens with having Trfel as scum (it appears that way) and while he heads down writing his post finding this one thing above as the only reason to possibly think Trfel is town, he more and more keeps putting him as bad town. But why, actually? He starts his post mentioning stuff that looks mafia about Trfel, why does he have to conclude he's bad town and talk so much about it every time in his initial posts. And by now Trfel for him is like forgotten, it should be one of the guys he's looking for in the + 1 after me and Daneler. On September 04 2016 14:11 Trfel wrote: Read/skimmed the thread. So now I actually know a little bit about what happened. Holyflare is town, there is no way he is mafia this game. And I will sheep him. I still think that DanelerH is town. Most likely mafia are scott and Tictock IMO, I am really liking a scott lynch. I really do think that geript is town and Koshi is probably town so that leaves me at scott, Tictock, Palmar. But I'm not sold entirely on TT and Palmar yet. The reason I doubted scott was the emotional quitting post but he came back like nothing happened amd still dodged thr spreadsheet thing. So I will vote for him. Okay. Pretty sure Vivax is dead because he was starting to figure the game out. It's been a crappy weekend so I'm already on a few beers, but this gives me good information. | ||
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On August 31 2016 07:24 Trfel wrote: And Holyflare, I'm a bit lost, could you summarize why Palmar is mafia? Anything ever evolve from this? | ||
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HF/Trfel/x HF never speaks of Trfel and throws him a town read at On August 31 2016 06:39 Holyflare wrote: Thank you town Trfel. And then never again. And the third is probably not Tictock or DandelH. | ||
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On September 04 2016 17:48 Tictock wrote: Scott besides this what is your take on Koshi this game? My gut feeling is that he's town. Like i pointed out before, it would be so much extra work to defend me when he could've just lynched TW (which we know is town now) - it makes very little sense. | ||
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On September 03 2016 00:28 Holyflare wrote: Ahahahahahahahahahahaah Please someone tell him. This guy is 100% just picking posts and writing a narrative and not reading the thread. Why would you delete who posted this quote out of your message then? | ||
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On September 02 2016 23:57 Tictock wrote: Ok I got lazy and didn't make giant posts for everybody, just the stuff I felt like noting. I think this is where I am at. Town: Trfel - + Show Spoiler + Pretty obv town imo. DanelerH - + Show Spoiler + Really feels like newbie town Vivax - + Show Spoiler + total 180 from what I've seen as scum, hasn't dropped a beat even with game looking glim Probably Town: Palmar - + Show Spoiler + Honestly just feels, nothing besides some erratic voting has raised an eyebrow. Probably should be a priority filter to review Null: Geript - + Show Spoiler + Dunno could go either way, need to relook at stuff. Koshi - + Show Spoiler + Doesn't feel like Koshi today. Too complacent I think. Scum: Tumblewood - + Show Spoiler + I've actually moved Tumble between Scum and Null a couple times now. On the one hand I see a few thoughts I like, but I have problems with Tumble's conclusions. Especially it bugs me again with Tumble's scott read, even in his last list post he's contradicting himself about Scott. + Show Spoiler + not that bad lynches scott (probably the worst of these 4) geript tt palmar I think 2 or 3 scum are in that second pool. scott and dane can sorta be their own category in the middle if I felt like it, and maybe hf can join them Calls scott the worst of the "not bad lynches" then puts him kinda null with dane. I feel like Scott is one of his least talked about reads still as well. Holyflare - + Show Spoiler + Whole approach to the game since EoD scream scum to me. Riding a high from getting a blue lynched D1 (I know the feeling, my first mafia game) going right into N1 accusing the town who helped lynch him. Nothing in his posts since then show real thought or analysis, he's just picked an argument and ran with the easiest path. There was no follow through in analysis or checking other theories. Not a fan of his uber-defensive post responding to my stuff earlier either. scott31337 - + Show Spoiler + Never really put much into the game, and seems to have just given up. We never got much follow-through from Scott's spreadsheet stuff earlier, and giving up in this position is totally the opposite of the attitude Scott had D1 + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2016 12:00 scott31337 wrote: I read the posts I and others made about D1 earlier in the thread. - I never liked d1, but geript's and the one I linked made a lot of sense. You should read them if you have not already TLDR of them - get everyone to not be a null Can someone give me a brief rundown of exactly why Palmar is mafia and the current wagon? I never really got exactly why people are voting him. Personally I'd really like to lynch HF because I know by posting this I am in for a storm. Scott is probably the safer bet though. ##Vote: Holyflare Tictock Why did you waste your time on spoilers for these when they do not tell me anything? | ||
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On September 02 2016 23:55 Tumblewood wrote: whoa why is geript voting vivax I'm not really good at mafia, but I'm good at noticing when a player who is known to be bad at faking his town meta is playing his town meta. does that ring any bells On September 02 2016 23:56 Tictock wrote: Koshi: Noting this from Koshi... kus WTF it came from Koshi? Having a hard time with Koshi's posts I'm gunna have to refilter him later. @Koshi: Can you explain what is looking worse in Trfel's posts? + Show Spoiler [Ticktock Post] + On September 02 2016 23:57 Tictock wrote: I might be forever townreading this guy. Also... + Show Spoiler + On September 02 2016 00:39 DanelerH wrote: I have no qualms with lynching Palmar, however I thought I would look into some other people that are currently under suspicion. One of these people is Tictock. In xyr filter, I found something very interesting: + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2016 23:58 Tictock wrote: That was kinda fun, and I feel like it might be time for one of these. Town: Palmar - + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wuFfOtI.jpg) Trfel - + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Z5RF49W.jpg) disformation - + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/amPqJz9.jpg) Possibly Town: Tumblewood - + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8NB8iwA.gif) DanelerH - + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ASLNuJb.jpg) scott31337 - + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ds4FbOS.jpg) No offense Scott... Race Bannon: Race Bannon - + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9zNmFKi.png) Null: Koshi - + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KzR44Rn.png) Holyflare - + Show Spoiler + I had a hard time with this one, take it with a fair bit of salt. Geript - + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9BM8F5z.jpg) Rels - + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7ZDzspE.gif) Scum lean: Vivax - + Show Spoiler + Seems Trfel is right, I am being too nice and trusting this game. Notice how Rels is listed under "Null," but Vivax is listed under "Scum lean." The reason why this is odd is because it doesn't match with Tictock's vote: + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2016 08:45 Tictock wrote: Hey, that was my plan! Now I feel like I should come up with something more original... but thankfully I'm pretty lazy. For now I think I'll add my weight to the Rels train kus a little pressure on him sounds like a good way to start the game. Still sus of Vivax too, he is playing to a higher degree than last I saw of him as scum but his contributions feel forced and possibly have agenda behind them. Pretty sure Trfel and Dis are both town. That is all. ## Vote: Rels If you look at the timestamps in each of these, you'll see that the Rels vote was on before being suspicious of Vivax. Yes, Tictock was an early supporter of the Rels lynch, but it's strange that xe never changed the vote to Vivax. My vote on Rels is was exactly what I said in w/e post I made the vote in. It was for pressure to get Rels to do stuff. He hadn't done anything at that point in the game, how could I have a read on him? Again though, this is a good post. + Show Spoiler [another TT post] + On September 02 2016 23:57 Tictock wrote: Holyflare: I really hate this post, especially given HF's read on Scott is ever-changing and never backed up. Combined with how he played EoD into night I think there is a solid chance HF is mafia. Kinda slowplayed D1, got really right at EoD to push Rels, into some quick accusations and a lot of activity at night but not much thought or analysis being done. I stand by my original VoD selection + Show Spoiler +, HF is a whole lotta words without much substance this game. This is a vast misrepresentation of my play. I called HF null into town-reading him. Actually, why would he do this as mafia? What on earth does he gain from it given his position this game? 1: No, you threw around a couple of throwaway opinions like "he said things that bugged me" while Trfel showed some evidence and tried to put thought into mindset and comes to the obv conclusion that my vote switch only makes sense if I'm mafia with scott. 2: So why haven't you pushed Scott at all today? On September 03 2016 00:03 Palmar wrote: I am not mafia, no idea why people still think that's really an option. I don't have the energy to argue against the train of stupidity that's coming after me. so instead I'll just share what I think is relevant in this game and you guys can then either listen to me now, or you can listen to me later. Koshi: Almost definitely town. He is, in his own bad way, trying to get the game solved. Also, it's literally his town meta to think I'm mafia and be wrong about it. He's also not just tunneling one thing (for example he's not just tunneling me, he's actually doing other stuff). I liked his case on TW at the time on day 1, although I don't really think TW is mafia but I might be wrong on that. He also gets a massive towncredit for pointing out geript's inconsistency during day 1. Vivax: Essentially the same as Koshi, effort and stubbornness rating is through the roof compared to what I'd expect of mafia Vivax. He's also being a paranoid baddie which is something he excels at. He has also pointed out inconsistencies (specifically one by geript, I think) that was really good. Trfel: To me, he's been completely under the radar this game. I might try to open his filter and read it before the evening, but so far I've essentially ignored most of his posts, which is often a good indication that someone is mafia (I tend to ignore mafia because their posts are usually bland and boring). Scott: I liked one post by him on day 1 so weakest townread ever? I don't really know, another person I have less formed opinion on. geript: Once again, he's almost lock mafia. His posting has been repeatedly proven to be out of touch with his own reality, and he's basically happy to sit back and let things happen. Holyflare Another basically lock mafia. I'm almost more sure on him than geript. The main problem is that he barely cared during day 1, no matter how much he wants to make it look like he had a hand in the TW push. Then he came in late, helped with some shenanigans that to me made little sense (why didn't he try to shennie onto geript instead?). But even then he was light on actual content. Then during the night he starts hammering me for literally something he made up (trying to paint me bad for the Rels thing). there is 0% chance holyflare actually thinks what he says he's thinking. He's also quite a bit better at scumhunting than Koshi and Vivax and thus should know better than to think I'm mafia. TW I don't know much about his posting today, but I sort of agreed with koshi's initial case, but he didn't sound like mafia when we were talking in the thread. So while I'm not gonna go overboard with it, I think he's more likely to be town. Danieler No idea, not really read his filter much. I think I liked something he said, but I can't remember what or why. Like I don't have him in my mental "these people are scum" group. Tictock Not really read up on him again. I basically gave him a townread when he posted the gif-reads on day 1 and I've not bothered with him since. Maybe it's time, but I think there's much higher mafia chance people. 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On September 03 2016 22:41 DanelerH wrote: After looking through Trfel's filter, I don't see anything that points to xem being Mafia. As such, I'm going to place xem under Town. Here is my current list: Town: Holyflare Vivax Geript Koshi Trfel Mafia: Tictock Scott Palmar Out of the ones listed under Mafia, I think we should lynch either Scott or Palmar. On September 04 2016 07:16 DanelerH wrote: Holyflare, who do you think we should lynch? I'm fine with any of the three I listed as Mafia, but my preference is either Scott or Palmar. | ||
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On September 02 2016 00:39 DanelerH wrote: I have no qualms with lynching Palmar, however I thought I would look into some other people that are currently under suspicion. One of these people is Tictock. In xyr filter, I found something very interesting: + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2016 23:58 Tictock wrote: That was kinda fun, and I feel like it might be time for one of these. Town: Palmar - + Show Spoiler + Trfel - + Show Spoiler + disformation - + Show Spoiler + Possibly Town: Tumblewood - + Show Spoiler + DanelerH - + Show Spoiler + scott31337 - + Show Spoiler + No offense Scott... Race Bannon: Race Bannon - + Show Spoiler + Null: Koshi - + Show Spoiler + Holyflare - + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mg48dW5TB0 I had a hard time with this one, take it with a fair bit of salt. Geript - + Show Spoiler + Rels - + Show Spoiler + Scum lean: Vivax - + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIwrgAnx6Q8 Seems Trfel is right, I am being too nice and trusting this game. Notice how Rels is listed under "Null," but Vivax is listed under "Scum lean." The reason why this is odd is because it doesn't match with Tictock's vote: + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2016 08:45 Tictock wrote: Hey, that was my plan! Now I feel like I should come up with something more original... but thankfully I'm pretty lazy. For now I think I'll add my weight to the Rels train kus a little pressure on him sounds like a good way to start the game. Still sus of Vivax too, he is playing to a higher degree than last I saw of him as scum but his contributions feel forced and possibly have agenda behind them. Pretty sure Trfel and Dis are both town. That is all. ## Vote: Rels If you look at the timestamps in each of these, you'll see that the Rels vote was on before being suspicious of Vivax. Yes, Tictock was an early supporter of the Rels lynch, but it's strange that xe never changed the vote to Vivax. | ||
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On September 03 2016 22:41 DanelerH wrote: After looking through Trfel's filter, I don't see anything that points to xem being Mafia. As such, I'm going to place xem under Town. Here is my current list: Town: Holyflare Vivax Geript Koshi Trfel Mafia: Tictock Scott Palmar Out of the ones listed under Mafia, I think we should lynch either Scott or Palmar. And this from Palmar. On September 03 2016 00:03 Palmar wrote: I am not mafia, no idea why people still think that's really an option. I don't have the energy to argue against the train of stupidity that's coming after me. so instead I'll just share what I think is relevant in this game and you guys can then either listen to me now, or you can listen to me later. Koshi: Almost definitely town. He is, in his own bad way, trying to get the game solved. Also, it's literally his town meta to think I'm mafia and be wrong about it. He's also not just tunneling one thing (for example he's not just tunneling me, he's actually doing other stuff). I liked his case on TW at the time on day 1, although I don't really think TW is mafia but I might be wrong on that. He also gets a massive towncredit for pointing out geript's inconsistency during day 1. Vivax: Essentially the same as Koshi, effort and stubbornness rating is through the roof compared to what I'd expect of mafia Vivax. He's also being a paranoid baddie which is something he excels at. He has also pointed out inconsistencies (specifically one by geript, I think) that was really good. Trfel: To me, he's been completely under the radar this game. I might try to open his filter and read it before the evening, but so far I've essentially ignored most of his posts, which is often a good indication that someone is mafia (I tend to ignore mafia because their posts are usually bland and boring). Scott: I liked one post by him on day 1 so weakest townread ever? I don't really know, another person I have less formed opinion on. geript: Once again, he's almost lock mafia. His posting has been repeatedly proven to be out of touch with his own reality, and he's basically happy to sit back and let things happen. Holyflare Another basically lock mafia. I'm almost more sure on him than geript. The main problem is that he barely cared during day 1, no matter how much he wants to make it look like he had a hand in the TW push. Then he came in late, helped with some shenanigans that to me made little sense (why didn't he try to shennie onto geript instead?). But even then he was light on actual content. Then during the night he starts hammering me for literally something he made up (trying to paint me bad for the Rels thing). there is 0% chance holyflare actually thinks what he says he's thinking. He's also quite a bit better at scumhunting than Koshi and Vivax and thus should know better than to think I'm mafia. TW I don't know much about his posting today, but I sort of agreed with koshi's initial case, but he didn't sound like mafia when we were talking in the thread. So while I'm not gonna go overboard with it, I think he's more likely to be town. Danieler No idea, not really read his filter much. I think I liked something he said, but I can't remember what or why. Like I don't have him in my mental "these people are scum" group. Tictock Not really read up on him again. I basically gave him a townread when he posted the gif-reads on day 1 and I've not bothered with him since. Maybe it's time, but I think there's much higher mafia chance people. So tell me what is wrong with Palmar's post. | ||
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On September 04 2016 23:56 DanelerH wrote: This post specifically? It's odd that you want me to look at a specific post, but here: The main problem is that Palmar doesn't have an opinion on one person (Scott) and hasn't read the filters of three others (Trfel, DanelerH, Tictock). At that point in the game, that was nearly half the players. Another issue I have with the post is the Geript read. As I have already said, it doesn't make sense for Geript to be Mafia. Granted, this was before the Day 2 lynch, but Palmar's read on Geript hasn't changed. The last issue I have is giving Town-reads for ridiculous reasons. For Scott, it was because of liking a post on Day 1 (granted, Palmar admitted to this being a weak read and classified it as "no opinion"). For me, xe thinks xe liked something I said (but can't remember) and I'm "not in [xyr] mental 'these people are scum' group". For Tictock, it was because of liking the images for reads. It's pretty weird you skipped my other post as well. Please expand on ridiculous reasons please. It's like this post from Vivax - On September 01 2016 10:39 scott31337 wrote: This post has townie feels or you just changed your "meta" so much that I've read before, fuck it man. I'm going back to watching Trump's speech though in my home town. ##Unvote This is just so from a town mindset I finally figured out he was just tunneled town - It was just one post. Do you think that was ridiculous too? Your reads seem quite opposite from Palmar and I and others. I'll ask again - I want to know who you think are the three mafia. | ||
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On September 04 2016 22:03 Holyflare wrote: Somebody made this exact same argument against me in probably every single one of my town games and literally last onegu game people were spouting the same nonsense. Trfel said a lot of things that I agreed with d1 so why would I ever vote him or mention him? I only mention scummy things in my filters really. Also, you're conveniently ignoring that I voted to save you day 1 and switched to a town after making a case on another town. What would be the point when I could just afk?? You've somehow twisted a point that shouldn't be a point (why would a person vote or mention their tr) and made it into a point about them being mafia together. Furthermore why have you decided to start playing right as we hit end game? I feel like if you lost motivation day 2 for no reason then joining now would be exceptionally hard. Like I've repeated for the third time, most of Thursday wasn't happening because of my American Football game, and Friday wasn't happening because of driving 100+ miles to our remote site to do network installs/fix computers. Then I got a call at work that day from my gf that the internet/cable was cut and I don't like posting from my phone - that didn't get fixed until Saturday night. | ||
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On September 05 2016 21:18 Palmar wrote: Basically, if geript cares at all about town losing this game, nothing in his demeanor is showing he does. So either he's mafia, or the most apathetic townie in history. I'm rolling the dice with scum. I hear ya. I think he's #3. What do you think of Trfel though? What about what TT posted on him? | ||
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On September 06 2016 01:10 Trfel wrote: Is now a good time to say that I am leaving a bit more than two hours before the deadline and might not make it back in time? That's fine. You're mafia so we'll make it happen without your vote. | ||
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On September 06 2016 01:46 Palmar wrote: 4 hours boys, we're breaking the activity limit here. You know it. Koshi what do you think about Geript or Trfel? Palmar is NOT happening. Come on man. | ||
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You know if Trfel gets lynched you're screwed - of course you won't vote for him. I'm waiting for TT to get back. | ||
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On September 06 2016 03:23 Trfel wrote: So, assuming that I am right and the mafia team is scott31337, Tictock, and Palmar, with DanelerH on scott31337 and no guarantee that he returns to play, and geript on DanelerH and refusing to move his vote, and Koshi on me, the game is over. So yeah. I still haven't had a chance to read Koshi's filter, so maybe he's mafia, but everyone else is townreading him for meta. Maybe geript is mafia, but I do think that he's town. So I'll guess that all three mafia are in scott31337, Tictock, Palmar, and Koshi, with Koshi being the less likely of the four, but still possible. Doom and gloom and we still have two and a half hours left? Mmhmmm | ||
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On September 06 2016 04:31 Tictock wrote: Geript has been extreamly dull to me this game. I recall him having a bit more personality and drive. Votes/pushes have indeed felt pretty uninterested. Yea I could sheep this. I'd rather convince Palmar to switch to Trfel, but if he will not, This will be my #2. I feel the least confident about geript, and that's mostly because Dandel could be mafia instead. The Geript/Dandel reads I feel the weakest on. And if we do switch to Geript, we all do (Koshi/you/me) I want five on it if HF votes for geript as well. | ||
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I'm still unsure if it's geript or dandiel for #3, - although I feel a little stronger on geript - but I have to go with a shot in the dark and with my town reads. | ||
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On September 06 2016 05:43 Palmar wrote: that votecount is off. also too many people agreeing with me on geript is scary. although of course maybe I'm still right and mafia is just getting on the wagon. If geript flips mafia that does NOT mean everyone on his wagon now is town. HF and DH have basically haven't given a shit about my geript read until today. ^^^^ | ||
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If i dont mafia can arrr KOOOSHIIII | ||
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I also have a couple copy and paste votes ready to go if you fuckers try some last minute shit | ||
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On September 06 2016 05:52 Holyflare wrote: Tell me why we would switch off geript? If you can't figure it out for yourself, why should I help you? | ||
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We're ride or dying with geript it looks like so go ahead and swap | ||
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GG all Obs? | ||
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On September 06 2016 06:05 Holyflare wrote: palmar/scott/kosji? Aww come on you're not town... | ||
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On September 06 2016 06:07 beentheredonethat wrote: So according to the rules, this game is over :D. But I'm actually not a 100% sure. It's 3-3 after night, so it's over. Right? It's over. Post OBS And Scum QT and whos on whos team etc | ||
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oh well GG with this team we were fucked anyway Thanks for hosting! | ||
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On September 04 2016 16:43 scott31337 wrote: So Vivax died instead of the three smart ones - HF, Palmar, Koshi - that's the first point I've noted. Damnit. | ||
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I appreciate the flavor but some of it I don't read. all I saw was Brave Soul. | ||
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