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I'm reading scott's last two games (both town) , and meta wise he's off too.
In comparison this game he started in a very very awful manner. His questions at the beginning of this game are just scummy as shit, as I pointed out earlier. They lack direction, they leave everything open to interpretation, they don't actually seem to want an answer back. It's literally just mindless question spam at the beginning to look like he's contributing, with the "Palmar is extremely suspicious" BS post.
Then his post where he checks Rels meta "just for fun" that ends up concluding that mafia Rels talks about something that doesn't give information but yet he concludes that Palmar's case could be a good idea when he's literally stating that Rels as mafia wouldn't post anything at all.
Read my D1 case jesus. I can go on and on and on about scott but I don't trust this town enough to even want to read it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/508622-newbie-mafia-xxi?user=scott31337&view=all
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511961-newbie-student-mafia-xxii?user=scott31337&view=all
His 2 town games, for you but especially for me when I want to take a look at them again.
Reminder that his game start is super scummy this game, but not solely based on these.
On August 29 2016 06:08 scott31337 wrote:Woohoo! Let's do this. Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 05:59 Trfel wrote:Beentheredonethat is the worst cohost on TL. I didn't think he would be cruel enough to make me mafia two games in a row  Hmmmm- would Trfel be this bold? Or a big bag of WIFOM?
On August 29 2016 06:46 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 06:33 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 06:30 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 06:29 Palmar wrote:
This is not a joke btw. Rels is probably mafia. please enlighten me. for instantly disappearing after posting a 2 character post? Is that a meta thing for him? Ah fantastic. No, it's absolutely not a meta thing. You see, one of the most underrated difficult things to do in mafia is to "enter" the thread. Rels' entrance was, unlike just about everyone else on the frontpage, completely unattached to the game or to anything else going on in it. If he was in the thread at the time, he definitely had the time to read the like... 5? posts that had been posted, or at least stuck around to say one or two more things. But no, he came into the thread, because there is an inherent pressure on people to actually participate in threads, especially mafia feel like "I must post". Yet he clearly had no real will or intention to stay in the thread, as his silence since that one greeting proves. He is, of the people that posted early, by far the most likely to be mafia. So just for fun, I checked Rel's two last games as Mafia that are in the database -http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=494436&user=Rels&view=all http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=494873&user=Rels&view=allSo one was Palmar's witch game where he comes in and starts talking about game setup crap for an entrance (well can't really do that here) and the other he starts just talking shit Rels doesn't enter games with any information, he usually just talks.
This could be a good idea.
On August 29 2016 07:10 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 07:07 Race Bannon wrote:
I hope the host provided the scumteam with the VT flavor, or this will be a concise town victory. This post doesn't make any sense. It's in the OP. Did you roll mafia again?
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On August 31 2016 03:12 scott31337 wrote:
Townie:
Palmar
Trfel
Koshi
Disformation
Wouldn't Lynch today:
Danelerh
Holyflare
Race Bannon
Stil unsure:
TicTock
WTF:
Vivax
Would lynch:
Tumblewood
Rels
Geript
You might also notice he was one of the two calling Palmar weird and suspicious for posting on a weekend but ends up putting him in the townie category in his list here. At the very least we should expect a null Palmar here. Calling BS on this one there is no explanation for scott townreading Palmar when his entire earlier posts pointed to the contrary.
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On September 01 2016 22:14 Holyflare wrote:
He got caught slipping and afkd to play wow is my guess?
to be fair this expension is starting out really good
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Hey guys, do you remember that time I said HF was mafia?
Those were the times.
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Remember that time you said I didn't do anything but you were sheeping my case? Good times.
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Oh Palmar is around?
##Vote Palmar
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Vote Palmar with me HF this thread desperately needs some life.
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welp I've been blindsided by extreme busyness
thankfully the new posts are slim, but I probably won't be able to catch up till the second half of D2
was the Hf CC on disfo real or just a figment of my imagination?
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Mostly though we need to get rid of Palmars smugness so he can't hide behind it to have an excuse not to post.
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On September 01 2016 23:49 Tumblewood wrote:
welp I've been blindsided by extreme busyness
thankfully the new posts are slim, but I probably won't be able to catch up till the second half of D2
was the Hf CC on disfo real or just a figment of my imagination?
Very real, what is it to you?
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On September 01 2016 23:50 Vivax wrote:
Mostly though we need to get rid of Palmars smugness so he can't hide behind it to have an excuse not to post.
I'm only a humble man
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On September 01 2016 23:49 Tumblewood wrote:
welp I've been blindsided by extreme busyness
thankfully the new posts are slim, but I probably won't be able to catch up till the second half of D2
was the Hf CC on disfo real or just a figment of my imagination?
Yeh I'm the cop?
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I actually already thought I was voting palmar.
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How come you want palmar over your wagon of purity and definitely scott is mafia wagon of justice vivax?
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On September 02 2016 00:15 Holyflare wrote:
How come you want palmar over your wagon of purity and definitely scott is mafia wagon of justice vivax?
Given the choice I will lynch scott first, but right now we have better chances of getting a wagon going if we start voting Palmar.
Everything I write on scott gets ignored anyway
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Tumble ofc drops a question into the room, gets an answer promptly and then fucks off indefinitely.
I wish we could triple lynch.
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I'm reading it but on my way back home now.
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I have no qualms with lynching Palmar, however I thought I would look into some other people that are currently under suspicion. One of these people is Tictock. In xyr filter, I found something very interesting: + Show Spoiler +
Notice how Rels is listed under "Null," but Vivax is listed under "Scum lean." The reason why this is odd is because it doesn't match with Tictock's vote: + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2016 08:45 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 08:18 Koshi wrote:
Now that Palmar plays I will just let him do his thing and lynch him D3 if we don't lynch mafia. eztactics and 100% foolproof. Hey, that was my plan! Now I feel like I should come up with something more original... but thankfully I'm pretty lazy. For now I think I'll add my weight to the Rels train kus a little pressure on him sounds like a good way to start the game. Still sus of Vivax too, he is playing to a higher degree than last I saw of him as scum but his contributions feel forced and possibly have agenda behind them. Pretty sure Trfel and Dis are both town. That is all. ## Vote: Rels
If you look at the timestamps in each of these, you'll see that the Rels vote was on before being suspicious of Vivax. Yes, Tictock was an early supporter of the Rels lynch, but it's strange that xe never changed the vote to Vivax.
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There's like an entire day between the timestamps? Rels was clearly a pressure vote because he stated it was. Did he ever vote vivax or elaborate more on that read though?
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On September 02 2016 00:39 DanelerH wrote:I have no qualms with lynching Palmar, however I thought I would look into some other people that are currently under suspicion. One of these people is Tictock. In xyr filter, I found something very interesting: + Show Spoiler +Notice how Rels is listed under "Null," but Vivax is listed under "Scum lean." The reason why this is odd is because it doesn't match with Tictock's vote: + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2016 08:45 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 08:18 Koshi wrote:
Now that Palmar plays I will just let him do his thing and lynch him D3 if we don't lynch mafia. eztactics and 100% foolproof. Hey, that was my plan! Now I feel like I should come up with something more original... but thankfully I'm pretty lazy. For now I think I'll add my weight to the Rels train kus a little pressure on him sounds like a good way to start the game. Still sus of Vivax too, he is playing to a higher degree than last I saw of him as scum but his contributions feel forced and possibly have agenda behind them. Pretty sure Trfel and Dis are both town. That is all. ## Vote: Rels If you look at the timestamps in each of these, you'll see that the Rels vote was on before being suspicious of Vivax. Yes, Tictock was an early supporter of the Rels lynch, but it's strange that xe never changed the vote to Vivax.
You can probably find that sort of argument for half the game. Did I truly believe Rels was mafia when I voted for him? No, so I should be but this game is about getting situations going that people have to react to, and which the game is failing miserably to do. Either the players are afk or they're simply soloplaying like HF pointed out.
TT might as well have voted Rels to just get the wagon going which was a pretty admirable thing to do in this context.
So no, it's not scummy.
Vote Palmar if you want to help town. And give us a read on scott/read my posts pls.
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