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On August 31 2016 04:20 Trfel wrote:
I could maybe lynch DanelerH, though. It's just very hard to see him approaching this game from a town mindset. I cannot figure out how he's going about solving the game, the direction of his filter seems to be more just random. The biggest example of that being his latest series of posts, where after voting for geript yesterday, he talks about some random, disconnected stuff today, of no relevance to the lynch.
The only problem is that I could maybe see him being town and not posting many of his actual thoughts, to the point that the progression in what he has posted makes no sense.
That said, the point that Holyflare made on him makes a lot of sense, and his response doesn't seem very interested in figuring out people's alignments. Not as sure about lynching DanelerH any more, just realized that I missed one of his posts. And his last post seemed much more relevant.
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Hi Tumblewood 
Why do you want to lynch scott31337 instead of Tictock?
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On August 31 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 02:15 Palmar wrote:
fuck it TW actually sounds kind of like town. I'm going back to geript. What about his responses make you think he's town? Honestly at this point I feel like he just came back and started defending himself, but really has nothing to add. Hell the fact that he's coping out and voting Scott here and totally dropping the push on me really makes me want to lynch him. Yeah, I know....
Bleh, okay.
##unvote
##vote Tumblewood
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On August 31 2016 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
I'm also not caught uo properly did anything change? Don't think so.
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On August 31 2016 02:07 Tumblewood wrote:
you have all these great cases on scott too, right in front of your eyes. and you ignore them for the bs on me. I'm voting scott btw if you want to join me Tumblewood, what happened here?
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I think that scott31337 is a better lynch than Tumblewood. There are some reasons that Tumblewood doesn't look that great, but I don't think that parts of his play make much sense for him to be mafia.
Waiting for the last second to flail around, I don't really like  I'm not sure that Tumblewood is town. I'm not super torn up if he's lynched. But there are several things that make me doubt. And scott31337 is a decent chance at being mafia.
I don't think that DanelerH is a good lynch.
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I'd rather not lynch Rels, I think.
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On August 31 2016 06:11 disformation wrote:game starts off on a great note I see. Rels what the fuck happened man, you used to be super good at the game? Rels played a decent game.
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On August 31 2016 06:23 Holyflare wrote:
I just can't wrap my head around why Scott would be here but not vote to save himself unless he's with the last two but that's super duper associative and bad buttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I see two possible explanations?
Either he just honestly had no idea what was going on and was too confused to do anything / didn't think quickly enough? Which is possible as either alignment?
Or, he's mafia and saw the vote count at 6-4 and didn't want to look worse by being on the wagon that flips town.
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And that's a very, very interesting point on Tictock.
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On August 31 2016 06:34 Holyflare wrote:
I think I'm just going to scum read every single person that doesn't put me in their town list. Be warned. Okay, you can be town
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On August 31 2016 07:10 Holyflare wrote:
I'm just really confused by Scott tbh, who posted the better than vivax case on him? The short case on scott31337 was written by me.
I'm here-ish, and I'll analyze stuff tonight, but I kinda feel like I need a bit of a break. I'm in agreement with most of the stuff you're saying now though, even though the Tictock point annoys me because I was really starting to think that he was town.
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On August 31 2016 07:13 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 07:10 Holyflare wrote:
I'm just really confused by Scott tbh, who posted the better than vivax case on him? Clearly nobody. I claim all scott credit with Trfel being close second mvp. Idk why you have a beef with TT btw. Seemed fairly ok with his posting so far, except that I couldn't fathom why he'd come into the game scumreading me, but on the other hand he was the first to spell it out like he did so seems a bit ballsy for him to do it as mafia. Did you see that Tictock switched his vote to Rels after Rels claimed blue?
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On August 31 2016 06:00 Palmar wrote:
This has like 1% chance of working but we're sticking with it because he claimed Palmar, why does someone claiming mean that you have to stick with the lynch? (ignoring time issues)
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And Holyflare, I'm a bit lost, could you summarize why Palmar is mafia?
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On August 31 2016 06:25 disformation wrote:
I kinda think ppl pilling onto TW kinda steadily all day and suddenly _ALL_ switching with little resistance esp after the claim means TW is town?
As in both wagons were town. Hey disformation, when you wake up, I'm having trouble understanding this wagon analysis. Is it to do with how the Tumblewood wagon built? Because I would think that if a bunch of people switch off of a wagon quickly, it's more likely for that wagon to be on mafia, right?
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Race Bannon
1) Says he won't lynch Koshi for taking a side on the role PM issue, then wants to lynch Koshi
+ Show Spoiler +On August 29 2016 19:44 Race Bannon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 19:23 Palmar wrote:On August 29 2016 19:18 Race Bannon wrote: I am the most polarizing element in the game, hijole! I should do something other than mimicking Slam. Out of curiosity, why did you talk about the vanilla role pm? Give us YOUR version of it. A wifom reaction test. Not sure about the reactions though. I wouldn't want to lynch the people who took sides on my alignment bearing in mind what I've said just yet. Palmar and disfo on one side, and geript, Koshi on the other, I'd like to keep at least until day 3. Also, I will address the elephant in the room once more, and say that the PM flavor =/= OP flavor. Therefore I am nonplussed about Trfel, scott and Palmar explicitly claiming it not be so, while others at least circumvented commenting directly on this issue, and wound up discussing my alignment instead .. which could be a sign of scum probing for information following the scare that the game might be breakable. On August 31 2016 05:21 Race Bannon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 05:18 disformation wrote:On August 31 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:On August 31 2016 02:15 Palmar wrote:
fuck it TW actually sounds kind of like town. I'm going back to geript. What about his responses make you think he's town? Honestly at this point I feel like he just came back and started defending himself, but really has nothing to add. Hell the fact that he's coping out and voting Scott here and totally dropping the push on me really makes me want to lynch him. his vote is still on geript. he will have to vote scott for survival which is perfectly nai. Who except Trfel and Vivax made a case against scott? Can yoube persuaded to help nudge along a Koshi or Vivax choochoo?
2) Race Bannon scumread scott31337, but then scumread Vivax and dismissed the arguments to scumread scott31337
+ Show Spoiler +On August 30 2016 06:31 Race Bannon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 06:25 scott31337 wrote:On August 30 2016 06:08 Race Bannon wrote:On August 30 2016 06:04 Koshi wrote:On August 30 2016 06:03 Palmar wrote:On August 30 2016 05:43 Koshi wrote:
Palmar, Vivax, TW
My best guesses for mafia. jesus koshi God Koshi. You should know. Ok, I've had it with the references to that game. vote: Koshi Best case all game..../s You're damn right about that. The one on you is better. ![[image loading]](http://38.media.tumblr.com/2008633368ec7a3457be866b659fadf7/tumblr_ni8wvz71Tf1rtbl5vo1_500.gif) Mine is only close second. On August 30 2016 17:20 Race Bannon wrote:
Trfel scott scumbuds But then: On August 31 2016 00:08 Race Bannon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 00:02 Vivax wrote:On August 30 2016 23:57 Race Bannon wrote:On August 30 2016 23:45 Vivax wrote:
I like this post. If you gonna call me mafia at least call me a dirty little scumfuck, or a conspiring backstabber. Just don't randomly shit on my posts.
It would make sense for you to say that, if your case was good. Do you believe your case was good? I'm asking because I believe that scumhunting is about forcing scum into a corner where they have to lie, and hope that I can tell when that happens. Absolutely I believe my case was good, I also believe the arguments on TW are good. I am just too proud to admit it and switch my vote, which won't be necessary cause I'm fairly sure mafia is getting trashed. 1. It was fairly early and scott hasn't posted enough for a good case.
3) What geript said about Race Bannon doing nothing relevant to the lynch, then posting exactly at the deadline with nothing relevant, and then vanishing
So, I don't think that any of his arguments make sense this whole game. But imagining for a moment that he is town, and he actually believes what he is saying. 40 minutes from the deadline, he's super confident that Vivax is mafia because he scumslipped, and that Koshi is mafia with him because he scumslipped a read that depends on Vivax's alignment. And he believes this almost 100%. And town's voting for this random guy Tumblewood, who Race Bannon didn't care about enough to mention.On August 31 2016 05:21 Race Bannon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 05:18 disformation wrote:On August 31 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:On August 31 2016 02:15 Palmar wrote:
fuck it TW actually sounds kind of like town. I'm going back to geript. What about his responses make you think he's town? Honestly at this point I feel like he just came back and started defending himself, but really has nothing to add. Hell the fact that he's coping out and voting Scott here and totally dropping the push on me really makes me want to lynch him. his vote is still on geript. he will have to vote scott for survival which is perfectly nai. Who except Trfel and Vivax made a case against scott? Can yoube persuaded to help nudge along a Koshi or Vivax choochoo? So he posts this, 39 minutes until end of day. Which makes sense. If he is convinced that Koshi and Vivax are mafia, he should want to lynch them instead of Tumblewood, who he presumably doesn't think is mafia.
What doesn't make sense is that from here he vanishes until the deadline. Let's still assume that he is town. He comes back and sees Rels being lynched, and no one paying attention to his scumreads on Vivax and Koshi. He ought to be mad at everyone for not paying attention and mislynching the vigilante. Or maybe he would be frustrated at whatever it was that prevented him from being able to play in this crucial time to get his own lynch. But what he actually posts:
On August 31 2016 06:00 Race Bannon wrote:
There's something I noticed about myself. I fucking hate it when the acting is so bad that I'm constantly being reminded of how it's a movie I'm watching. Either the acting, sometimes the casting irrevocably dooms that department entirely, or the camera keeps shaking stupidly erratic, especially when 3d, my word. Is it so hard to empathize with the viewer experience and just take Alejandro Inarritu's success as a hint? FFS, and the mobile phones.. the stupid kids with their availability issues.
The same goes for people breaking the reading experience in forum mafia. When I'm hosting I'll totally modkill, and taste the full flavor of the subsequent bitch-fest and enjoy it to the fullest, when someone looses even a coherent sentence about anything other than game-relevant material, except material used for jokes or whatever.
I vehemently denounce this entitlement of a player to think they can bring into this picture their real life persona, what they're doing or would like to do outside of this game.. who the fuck wants to see a player as anything other than the cog in the machinery. Random people .. evoking contexts like wht they eat, where they drive, dota and wow .. what? Why is this relevant to my experience? I am well advised to decide that scum could just as well lie about being unavailable and some such, so where's the fucking point of interluding the flow of relevant conversation, just to "announce" I'll want to play dota .. like "wrap this up people, I got somewhere to be". No you don't you piece of shit. You don't exist outside the context of this game, for anyone inside this game. .. For real.
Sry, meant to play but had to get this off my chest. Complaining about people talking about things outside of the game and having excuses for not being active? Really? After he was just gone and uninvolved for the 39 minutes leading up to the lynch?
There is zero reason for this to ever be in a town mindset.
Conclusion: Race Bannon is very likely mafia.
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Tictock
Tictock's end of day looks really bad. He makes a lot of posts talking about how much he wants to lynch Tumblewood and how scummy he thinks Tumblewood is:
+ Show Spoiler [Examples] +On August 31 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 02:15 Palmar wrote:
fuck it TW actually sounds kind of like town. I'm going back to geript. What about his responses make you think he's town? Honestly at this point I feel like he just came back and started defending himself, but really has nothing to add. Hell the fact that he's coping out and voting Scott here and totally dropping the push on me really makes me want to lynch him. On August 31 2016 05:36 Tictock wrote:
I'm pretty happy to be lynching Tumble honestly.
Nothing he's posted in the past few hours says anything, and he's mostly just whining about how he's not really playing his scum meta.
I get the scumreads on Dane but I feel like he's much more a roll of the die than Tumble who is like 95% likely to flip mafia here imo. Like I get why some of his posts are triggering alarms but I feel like he is putting in effort.
Scott is still a tough one for me this game. Palmar flip-flopping from geript to Tumble and then back to Geript is worth raising an eyebrow or two at, but is not something I care to dig into right now. On August 31 2016 05:41 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2016 05:40 Tumblewood wrote:
honestly I really want to lynch Koshi right now
or maybe hf
circa 20 minutes from now it should strike everyone as really weird that my wagon formed so easily and didn't budge even when things changed Nothing has changed, expect more and more people realizing you rolled mafia this game. On August 31 2016 05:43 Tictock wrote:
Deadline is so close... I think I'm going back to Legion.
I want Tumble to be the lynch today, so plz no last min shenannies. Dane is a worse lynch than Tumble.
But he switches to Rels anyway.On August 31 2016 06:41 Tictock wrote:
I hate myself for caving to pressure.
Sorry Rels. And he blames it on caving into pressure. Given how much he talked about wanting to lynch Tumblewood and not shenanigan, even after Rels posted all of his most scummy stuff at EoD, this is the most plausible explanation if Tictock is indeed town. But it still doesn't seem very solid at all.
Other than this End of Day stuff I kind of like Tictock's play? So I'm not sure what to make of this yet.
I know that unflipped associations are really stupid, but if scott31337 is mafia, Tictock's play looks far more suspicious. Here's the vote count before Tictock's vote switch:On August 31 2016 05:58 beentheredonethat wrote:Day 1: Vote Count #7
Votes: - Rels (4) -
Palmar, Vivax, scott31337, disformation, Koshi, Tictock, Holyflare, disformation, Koshi, Tumblewood
- Trfel (0) -
disformation
- disformation (0) -
Holyflare, Koshi, geript
- Tumblewood (2) -
Koshi, Koshi, Holyflare, scott31337, Tictock, Palmar, disformation, disformation, Trfel
- Koshi (0) -
DanelerH
- geript (1) -
Palmar, disformation, DanelerH, Palmar, Tumblewood
- scott31337 (4) - Vivax, Rels,
Trfel, DanelerH, Trfel, Tumblewood
- TicTock (0) -
Tumblewood
- Vivax (1) -
disformation, Race Bannon
- DanelerH (1) - geript
Not voting: - Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched. Tictock's vote was really important in sealing the lynch as Rels, instead of scott31337. He could maybe have predicted Palmar switching votes to Rels, but relying on other people to switch would be a huge risk. So if scott31337 flips mafia, Tictock looks a lot worse. Even if scott31337 flips town, his End of Day makes me a bit suspicious about him.
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