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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 08:41 GMT
#368
I think I'm going to bed. Good night, thanks for humoring my questions.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 17:24 GMT
#430
On August 29 2016 17:55 disformation wrote:
I actually took a look at the meta read NM used to figure out scum!palmar in star wars the mafia awaken and then compared palmars filter from that game to the one he has here.
using that as a basis I too think Palmar is playing to his town meta this game.
I find the meta read you posted interesting, and it's partially correct That said, I'm not as confident on Palmar as I generally am, which annoys me a little bit.
On August 29 2016 18:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 18:51 disformation wrote:
TBH I am surprisingly cool with "my" meta thing on palmar.
And ofc I am willing to reevaluate as the game goes on. Need my waffelz!

Nah seriously I'll call Palmar town.

Does anyone have an opinion on HF? Cause I kinda dont and I am scared by that.

I really liked that extra dimension read he had on TW. Showed he is thinking about the game and not pretending to think about the game.

atm one of the most townie people.
Koshi, I find it very funny that you keep insisting that this game is within the range of Palmar's mafia play but say that Holyflare is super towny after a handful of posts. Do you not have a high opinion of Holyflare's scum play, or is there an extra nuance to this read?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 17:47 GMT
#435
Holyflare, how strongly do you feel about disformation being mafia?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 18:10 GMT
#442
Holyflare, what do you think about Tumblewood's posts on Tictock? Especially since you said that you're also suspicious of Tictock.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 29 2016 18:53 GMT
#447
On August 30 2016 03:49 Holyflare wrote:
Also someone explain to me how geript is leading the votes?
Because his wall of text posts don't seem to match some of the reads he ends at in the conclusion.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2016 03:18 GMT
#580
Tictock, why are you more willing to lynch geript than Rels? Is it just the inconsistencies between his posts and the conclusion, or is there something else?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2016 03:34 GMT
#583
On August 30 2016 12:29 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 12:18 Trfel wrote:
Tictock, why are you more willing to lynch geript than Rels? Is it just the inconsistencies between his posts and the conclusion, or is there something else?


It is partially just feels, on the surface the both just did the same thing but Rels string of thoughts flowed better into his conclusions. Geript has the inconsistencies but also did little to focus on his scum reads or any reads infact, compare to Rels who put down a decent bit about each of his scum reads.
I find this interesting because to me, Rels and geript were similar in some ways, but Rels was far more reactive in only addressing the thread sentiment, being open to lynch all the main suspects, and not having any original thought. On the contrary, geript felt more willing to share original thoughts, even if they didn't make as much sense.

I am having a bit of trouble believing that you can actually think this . Help?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2016 03:36 GMT
#584
DanelerH, have you had a chance to look through the whole game yet, or are there still people you haven't looked at?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2016 06:38 GMT
#588
Hey, so if anyone has any questions or wants to talk about anything, let me know. Otherwise, Tictock, I asked you a question in post #583, if you're not going to answer it I'd at least appreciate it if you would just say that?

I'll be reading some stuff.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2016 06:56 GMT
#591
On August 30 2016 15:53 Tictock wrote:
Fair warning though, I'm unlikely to be very responsive for the next few hours.

Wait!!! Can I get like five minutes to pester you with several more annoying questions?

First of which being, when you townread Tumblewood for the Koshi/Race Bannon/Tumblewood associative read thing (can link it if you need), what was it about Tumblewood's post that makes you say that it's more of a town mindset? Because I'm really not sure what you're getting at.

As to who I want to lynch... working on it. But for now I'm thinking not you, if that helps
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2016 06:59 GMT
#593
@Tictock, might as well ask all of my questions now.

Early on, you said that you thought that both I and disformation were town. Why did you say this?

Why did you move Holyflare from "null" into "don't lynch"?

And I know that this question seems dumb, but if you wouldn't mind explaining a bit more of what it is about Vivax's passion over the scott31337 lynch that makes you townread him? Like, why can't he be mafia that is strongly pushing scott31337?

Thanks
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2016 07:03 GMT
#596
On August 30 2016 16:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 12:34 Trfel wrote:
On August 30 2016 12:29 Tictock wrote:
On August 30 2016 12:18 Trfel wrote:
Tictock, why are you more willing to lynch geript than Rels? Is it just the inconsistencies between his posts and the conclusion, or is there something else?


It is partially just feels, on the surface the both just did the same thing but Rels string of thoughts flowed better into his conclusions. Geript has the inconsistencies but also did little to focus on his scum reads or any reads infact, compare to Rels who put down a decent bit about each of his scum reads.
I find this interesting because to me, Rels and geript were similar in some ways, but Rels was far more reactive in only addressing the thread sentiment, being open to lynch all the main suspects, and not having any original thought. On the contrary, geript felt more willing to share original thoughts, even if they didn't make as much sense.

I am having a bit of trouble believing that you can actually think this . Help?

You think I'm scum ?
The way I see it, the people you are suspicious of exactly match the thread sentiment, and you haven't provided any original thought.

Do you think that I am incorrectly perceiving things? And if not, why shouldn't I think that you are scum?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2016 07:06 GMT
#598
And Tictock, one more thing.....

In this post, where you vote for Tumblewood, when did you decide that you were going to vote for Tumblewood?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2016 07:13 GMT
#600
Okay Rels, one more question. You said that you want to lynch one of four people, and then voted for scott31337. Why did you choose scott31337, and how much do you care about lynching him versus the other people on the list?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2016 07:32 GMT
#603
On August 30 2016 16:30 Rels wrote:
Alright I'm leaving Paris, as said I will be driving all day so see you later!
Have a good day, thanks for answering my questions.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2016 07:50 GMT
#607
On August 30 2016 16:44 disformation wrote:
Damn. Just missed Rels.
Well... @Trfel: you are asking a lot of questions, were you able to reach some conclusions from the answers etc?
I think I'm wanting to lynch scott31337. I think that Tictock has been providing a sensible approach to the game and some original thought, and that's enough to override my stupid meta read anyway, because I'm bad at meta when it's not about Palmar.

My reasons to think that scott31337 were town basically came down to that I wouldn't think he would want to play the game if he was mafia. But that's pretty dumb. Looking at his play with that aside, he looks like mafia I'll explain more in the near future.

I still kind of want to lynch Tumblewood, but he's really carefree, and that's giving me a bit of doubt. I did a brief meta check on the 72 hours game, and he seemed less carefree and more intentional (he was mafia in that game). And his meta read on Tictock is actually a decent read. For the moment, I think I prefer scott31337.

Still working on you and geript, but I don't really think I want to lynch either of you?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2016 07:57 GMT
#609
Geript, if you're still around, I'd really like to know why you are townreading Tictock.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2016 08:17 GMT
#611
Okay, so not sure what geript's up to, but I'm going to bed. I'm not sure about geript, but I'll look at him more tomorrow.

I want to lynch scott31337. He's been decently active, present, and conversational, but his reads don't go anywhere, it doesn't seem like he's been solving the game. This has been said before, I'll try to state it in a simple and clear way.

He started by checking meta on Rels and comparing that to his opening in this game, and voted for Rels. Then he said that Race Bannon could be mafia for his post about PMs. Then he said that "maybe the others have a point" about disformation not having many reads, implying that he's getting a bit suspicious of disformation. Then he says that Palmar's townread on Race Bannon makes sense, but Race Bannon is still in his mafia pool. Then he says he's down for lynching Tumblewood as well.

Then he votes for Tumblewood, with no explanation.

And he still hasn't even said why he thinks Tumblewood is scum. Scott31337 has zero continuity to his reads at all. It doesn't look like he's actually trying to figure out the best lynch but rather saying whatever sounds towny in that instant.

##vote scott31337
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2016 19:08 GMT
#759
On August 30 2016 18:08 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 17:17 Trfel wrote:
He started by checking meta on Rels and comparing that to his opening in this game, and voted for Rels. Then he said that Race Bannon could be mafia for his post about PMs. Then he said that "maybe the others have a point" about disformation not having many reads, implying that he's getting a bit suspicious of disformation. Then he says that Palmar's townread on Race Bannon makes sense, but Race Bannon is still in his mafia pool. Then he says he's down for lynching Tumblewood as well.

Then he votes for Tumblewood, with no explanation.

##vote scott31337

What in all this makes him mafia over town playing the game?
The part that you removed from the post? Where The above summary of scott31337's play shows no follow through on his reads. Example: If I call Player A scum, and then go on talking about a bunch of other things and never talk about Player A any more, am I actually serious about Player A being scum? And when he finally votes for Tumblewood without saying anything at all, ever, about Tumblewood.... it doesn't seem like he's actually interested in lynching Tumblewood, but just hiding on the biggest wagon.
On August 30 2016 22:27 Vivax wrote:
Retracting the TR on Trfel. While his pickup on the disfo oddity seemed good it happened during a spree of questions that makes it appear less original than I thought it was.

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On August 29 2016 16:34 Trfel wrote:
Tumblewood

Tumblewood has made several reads this game but it doesn't feel like he cares about those reads at all. One big example of this is his Palmar read:
On August 29 2016 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
maybe palmar's mafia
On August 29 2016 06:36 Tumblewood wrote:
idk I feel like if you applied that read to every situation you'd lynch scum the same amount as normal.
Tumblewood feels a bit unsure and apathetic about Palmar's scumread of Rels, but still seems to think that Palmar may be mafia. Yet when I asked him for more about this read, he said no.

In addition, there is no continuity to his reads. It just doesn't seem like he cares about his reads at all.

Thoughts?


Also don't understand why he's not joining the TW wagon having posted this earlier. Shouldn't he be like, remembering what he posted here and happy to jump on TW and digging this up again?
After that, Tumblewood posted his read on Tictock. And I thought about Tumblewood's previous posting more. I don't like Tumblewood all that much, but I'd rather lynch scott31337, I think
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 30 2016 19:20 GMT
#761
I could maybe lynch DanelerH, though. It's just very hard to see him approaching this game from a town mindset. I cannot figure out how he's going about solving the game, the direction of his filter seems to be more just random. The biggest example of that being his latest series of posts, where after voting for geript yesterday, he talks about some random, disconnected stuff today, of no relevance to the lynch.

The only problem is that I could maybe see him being town and not posting many of his actual thoughts, to the point that the progression in what he has posted makes no sense.

That said, the point that Holyflare made on him makes a lot of sense, and his response doesn't seem very interested in figuring out people's alignments.
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