• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:46
CEST 13:46
KST 20:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202532Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder8EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced38BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Serral wins EWC 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 552 users

[M][N] Star Wars: Rogue 1 Hype Mafia - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 29 2016 03:01 GMT
#296
On August 29 2016 11:54 DanelerH wrote:
but I'm still unfamiliar with everyone's playstyles.


To be honest sometimes being familiar with people can be as much a hindrance as a help.

I wouldn't place so much importance on it.

Besides sometimes half the fun is just in trying to figure out why this strange dude is posting like he is. Looking at you Race...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 29 2016 03:05 GMT
#298
On August 29 2016 12:00 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 11:42 Tictock wrote:
Scott, whats got you so active this game?

I mean I like it, it's just not what I'm used to.


I read the posts I and others made about D1 earlier in the thread. - I never liked d1, but geript's and the one I linked made a lot of sense. You should read them if you have not already

TLDR of them - get everyone to not be a null


Yep that's what I got from skimming them.

And geript is a cool dude who should post more... when he can I guess.... sigh
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 29 2016 03:14 GMT
#301
By the way Scott...
On August 29 2016 07:10 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 07:07 Race Bannon wrote:
I hope the host provided the scumteam with the VT flavor, or this will be a concise town victory.


This post doesn't make any sense. It's in the OP.

Did you roll mafia again?


What did you make of Palmar's reasoning on RB?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 29 2016 12:49 GMT
#405
On August 29 2016 14:45 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 08:45 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 08:18 Koshi wrote:
Now that Palmar plays I will just let him do his thing and lynch him D3 if we don't lynch mafia. eztactics and 100% foolproof.


Hey, that was my plan!

Now I feel like I should come up with something more original... but thankfully I'm pretty lazy.

For now I think I'll add my weight to the Rels train kus a little pressure on him sounds like a good way to start the game. Still sus of Vivax too, he is playing to a higher degree than last I saw of him as scum but his contributions feel forced and possibly have agenda behind them.

Pretty sure Trfel and Dis are both town.

That is all.

## Vote: Rels

This is really left field and I don't understand where it's coming from. TT explain.


What, my vote on Rels?

a little pressure on him sounds like a good way to start the game


I think it's a little less random than your own opening vote on Dis, I was hoping for more explanation on that...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 29 2016 13:09 GMT
#408
On August 29 2016 16:15 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 16:13 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 16:10 disformation wrote:
and with all these questions I am fairly surprised you don't ask me where the hell my incredible hard TR on TT comes from.
Sure, why are you so confident that Tictock is town?

For correctly using meta to TR me, when he could just sheep one of the really strong players scumreading me.


This is a bit weaker than I was hoping for...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 29 2016 13:36 GMT
#410
On August 29 2016 21:51 Vivax wrote:
I'm going to teh beach I want to see piles on scott when I'm back or I'll be a sad boy


Your WoT made my eyes bleed.

I gather you have some weirdly formed meta read on scott... I hate it. I should probably have good reasons why but I just don't buy the meta argument here.

Honestly I kinda hate that most of the cases put out there so far are heavily meta based. I suppose I should have expected that given this player list.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 29 2016 13:46 GMT
#411
On August 29 2016 22:18 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 22:09 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 16:15 disformation wrote:
On August 29 2016 16:13 Trfel wrote:
On August 29 2016 16:10 disformation wrote:
and with all these questions I am fairly surprised you don't ask me where the hell my incredible hard TR on TT comes from.
Sure, why are you so confident that Tictock is town?

For correctly using meta to TR me, when he could just sheep one of the really strong players scumreading me.


This is a bit weaker than I was hoping for...

at least i am honest.
thoughts on palmar/geript/scott?

currently thinking about scott. like at face value I dont dislike his posts, but vivi is right they go nowhere.
and I dont know what to take from this post:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 10:48 scott31337 wrote:
On August 29 2016 10:33 Holyflare wrote:
On August 29 2016 10:24 DanelerH wrote:
I find it odd that Koshi was suspicious of Trfel, but then defended Trfel shortly afterwards. If the former was said in jest, then it's another irrelevant and uncontributive post.


Also, if you're using this metric why are you going after Koshi and not hopping aboard the Disformation is mafia train with me? None of disformation's post can be mistaken for jokes, a lot of them defend people (Rels) and then scum lean them (based off a 2 letter post....)?

Also, everyone that is following the Palmar wagon on Rels and has said nothing more is in major cop out mode and I will be coming after you big time.


Please do, I'm sorry your mafia bud posted two letters and went to sleep and now you have to defend him

(I'm joking...somewhat

As in: i wouldnt expect scott to post that as either alignment. xD


Palmar:+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Geript:+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Scott:+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
No offense Scott...

I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 29 2016 14:58 GMT
#419
That was kinda fun, and I feel like it might be time for one of these.

Town:
Palmar - + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Trfel - + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

disformation - + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Possibly Town:
Tumblewood - + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

DanelerH - + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

scott31337 - + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
No offense Scott...



Race Bannon:
Race Bannon - + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Null:
Koshi - + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Holyflare - + Show Spoiler +


I had a hard time with this one, take it with a fair bit of salt.

Geript - + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Rels - + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



Scum lean:
Vivax - + Show Spoiler +





Seems Trfel is right, I am being too nice and trusting this game.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 29 2016 15:02 GMT
#420
On August 29 2016 22:59 disformation wrote:
Actually having a hard time interpreting these images.
You are agreeing with/sheeping my Palmar read?
You think the geript thing is so bad, you don't even know what to say about that?
No Idea what the thing about Scott is trying to tell me.


Maybe putting people with alignments helped?

I felt up to the challenge of putting my thoughts/feels on people out in this way. I'm mostly happy with my results.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 29 2016 15:50 GMT
#422
Meh, it's too early in the game to get all tryhard imo.

I'm also hoping to see more from a few people, I'd be pretty happy if everyone in the game could get up to about two pages of filter.

Here are a few people I'd like to see more from to get better reads* :
DanelerH
Rels
Holyflare
Geript
Tumblewood

*Not in any order
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 29 2016 23:27 GMT
#554
On August 30 2016 01:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 22:36 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 21:51 Vivax wrote:
I'm going to teh beach I want to see piles on scott when I'm back or I'll be a sad boy


Your WoT made my eyes bleed.

I gather you have some weirdly formed meta read on scott... I hate it. I should probably have good reasons why but I just don't buy the meta argument here.

Honestly I kinda hate that most of the cases put out there so far are heavily meta based. I suppose I should have expected that given this player list.


And you suck TT. It can't be a meta read cause I'm not judging him based on meta.

What I did is much better: I analyzed a confirmed scum in a finished game and found out that scott's play is the one which has most things in common with how a mafia plays, so he's likely mafia. Carefully laid out. That case is science, bitch!

If you won't read walls of text made by your suspect don't play this game thanks.


Oh I read your post, that's why my eyes were bleeding.

Your "science" is even worse than what I originally thought you were doing. It reminds me of this...+ Show Spoiler +


Basically you are making a meta read on another player and then applying it to Scott this game. I could probably do the exact same thing with someone who was town in another game. Nowhere in your case do you show how the stuff you quote are evidence of mafia mindset, you just label stuff as useless or random.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 29 2016 23:34 GMT
#558
On August 30 2016 02:59 Tumblewood wrote:
hm I should have made this post yesterday when I saw this and remembered the post. maybe this was it?
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2016 12:01 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 11:54 DanelerH wrote:
but I'm still unfamiliar with everyone's playstyles.


To be honest sometimes being familiar with people can be as much a hindrance as a help.

I wouldn't place so much importance on it.

Besides sometimes half the fun is just in trying to figure out why this strange dude is posting like he is. Looking at you Race...

also the points/demerits shit. substitute for actually doing stuff. he's so polite though and my feels alarm is going off


Since this is the 2nd person to accuse me of being mafia for "being too nice" does this mean everyone thinks I'm an asshole as town?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 30 2016 00:07 GMT
#563
On August 30 2016 06:47 Vivax wrote:
Koshi said mafia is disconnected from the flow of the thread. I disagree. Grack in 72h wasn't disconnected from it, he was just following it but never having a strong opinion about anything. Pretty much what scott was doing in this game to a tee.

Apparently he agreed with disfo about me and Trfel being buds together or something but that line of thought is not pursued in the slightest afterwards.

I'm just repeating myself I think so I'll keep sitting here until scott dies, I might just sheep Palmar or HF later but I'm not afraid of being the only vote on scott at EoD if I feel like it. So I dnu. Vote scott or gtfo for now. The case stands and so far I've only seen stronlgy subjective remarks to it that don't match my level of effort in making it in the slightest and will be dismissed as such.


I really don't get why you are taking Grack's mafia play and making it the epitome of what it means to be mafia...

On the other hand I'm sorta remembering a game where I thought everything you did was shit and made no sense (and I think we tunneled each other to hell) and it turned out you were town.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 30 2016 00:19 GMT
#564
On August 30 2016 08:31 Rels wrote:
- TT: I had the exact same impression Tumble posted about. He's reasonnable but, having played with him quite a few times, his "nice" tone matches his scum meta. As town he will not care for what people thinks about him and just post stuff about finding scum.


Ok that's it. I have half a mind to be extremely nice and cordial to you all so that if/when I flip it will put an end to this terrible meta on me.

That is if that's ok with everyone of course.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 30 2016 00:23 GMT
#567
On August 30 2016 08:51 Vivax wrote:
If that's the case then Palmar used meta as well by your definition when he posted his argument on Rels WHICH YOU SHEEPED(!).


My reason for voting Rels was not because I believed his opening made him mafia.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 30 2016 00:31 GMT
#570
On August 30 2016 09:22 Vivax wrote:
Like all you're literally doing is defending scott for no reason and getting on my nerves all game.

You have two options to be useful:

1) Make a convincing case on why I'm mafia
2) Make a convincing case on why scott is town.

Otherwise you're really just ruining the game for me. I don't want to put up with your shit.


Crap I'm already failing at being nice to everyone.

I don't think it can be helped though kus I just don't agree with your case on scott. Maybe we should just ignore each other for a bit kus we have a track record of going for each others throats as town.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 30 2016 00:33 GMT
#571
On August 30 2016 09:28 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 08:34 Tictock wrote:
On August 30 2016 02:59 Tumblewood wrote:
hm I should have made this post yesterday when I saw this and remembered the post. maybe this was it?
On August 29 2016 12:01 Tictock wrote:
On August 29 2016 11:54 DanelerH wrote:
but I'm still unfamiliar with everyone's playstyles.


To be honest sometimes being familiar with people can be as much a hindrance as a help.

I wouldn't place so much importance on it.

Besides sometimes half the fun is just in trying to figure out why this strange dude is posting like he is. Looking at you Race...

also the points/demerits shit. substitute for actually doing stuff. he's so polite though and my feels alarm is going off


Since this is the 2nd person to accuse me of being mafia for "being too nice" does this mean everyone thinks I'm an asshole as town?

deference is a good word for what I see


flabbergasted is a much better word though...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 30 2016 00:34 GMT
#572
Like I just find it ironic that multiple people are calling me scum for "being nice"

While the one person who was willing to hard town read me earlier is the only one to bring up an actual point that might make me mafia...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 30 2016 01:35 GMT
#577
On August 30 2016 09:36 Vivax wrote:
I just think you post a lot of derailing hogwash that won't convince anyone to either vote me or not vote scott. But sadly I don't think that it necessarily makes you mafia.

I woke up in a good mood today spending about an hour reading 72 H and this game and trying to display in as much detail as possible how scott was playing like mafia, then some random arses pop in and start saying "tl dr but your case is shit". That'd be Koshi and you, HF at least kept it at the tl dr without being in the automatic setting of just taking a gigantic crap on someone who is actually trying to solve the game.

People like that are gamekillers so step it up kiddo


Fair enough,

scott31337 - + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
No offense Scott...


This was "Happy go lucky" and is apparently a pic of some girl who was in a movie by that name, who I thought fit well. That's how I felt about scott, he was just here doing his own thing bringing some small stuff to the table. Nothing of what I saw in your post really convinced me that this was scum!scott we are dealing with, and your lead in based on Grack's play in another game is a lv of meta read I'm just not ready for.

Though I'll admit my townlean on him might be less warranted with stuff like this.
On August 30 2016 06:58 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 06:53 Vivax wrote:
One more thing that came to my mind seeing the votecount.

It's already mafia indicative that he's still sitting on the Rels wagon when it lost steam. Townies all went looking for better stuff when they had more information available. Palmar gave potential mafia a very easy wagon to switch to, but a hard one to get away from without putting in effort.

The remnants you're seeing on the Rels wagon are the fishlets who got stuck in the bait and don't have the muscle to break free. I'll bother about making a call on TT later cause until scott dies I'm in a strike.


You are just really throwing everything and seeing what will stick, aren't you?

I didn't like the geript case so I wasn't going to change my vote for that.
Rels (well until a half an hour ago) still had not posted.

I could change my vote to you if it makes you feel better, but I'd rather wait for Rels to respond.


I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
August 30 2016 01:53 GMT
#578
I should probably reread this game tonight or something, I will only be around tomorrow for EoD. I'l try to break away from Legion for an hour or two.

I feel ok about flip-flopping totally on Vivax and put him as a townlean. The passion for what he is pushing for is pretty real, even if I don't exactly agree or get it.

I feel pretty ok with not ever considering lynching these people today.
Palmar
Trfel
Disinfo
Koshi
HF
Vivax
and I guess RB

so that leaves me these people to look at closer:

Tumblewood
Rels
DanelerH
scott31337
Geript
I can take that responsibility.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 348
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 26568
Sea 6580
Horang2 3026
Bisu 1488
ggaemo 1223
Jaedong 702
Larva 687
firebathero 625
BeSt 459
EffOrt 438
[ Show more ]
Zeus 341
Soulkey 279
TY 242
Nal_rA 167
Mini 156
Soma 122
ToSsGirL 114
Mong 96
PianO 86
ZerO 82
Hyun 75
hero 66
Snow 47
Killer 44
sSak 43
sorry 32
Hm[arnc] 30
Sea.KH 28
Rush 27
[sc1f]eonzerg 27
Free 26
Movie 23
Sacsri 23
Sharp 21
Icarus 15
Bale 14
yabsab 8
Dota 2
XaKoH 524
XcaliburYe251
qojqva120
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2754
shoxiejesuss720
Super Smash Bros
Westballz41
Other Games
singsing1868
B2W.Neo807
DeMusliM516
crisheroes368
Lowko198
Happy78
rGuardiaN31
Dewaltoss27
ZerO(Twitch)20
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 11
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 73
• davetesta19
• iHatsuTV 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV486
League of Legends
• Jankos634
Upcoming Events
WardiTV European League
4h 14m
MaNa vs NightPhoenix
ByuN vs YoungYakov
ShoWTimE vs Nicoract
Harstem vs ArT
Korean StarCraft League
15h 14m
CranKy Ducklings
22h 14m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
WardiTV European League
1d 4h
Shameless vs MaxPax
HeRoMaRinE vs SKillous
Online Event
1d 6h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 22h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.