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On August 29 2016 11:54 DanelerH wrote: but I'm still unfamiliar with everyone's playstyles.
To be honest sometimes being familiar with people can be as much a hindrance as a help.
I wouldn't place so much importance on it.
Besides sometimes half the fun is just in trying to figure out why this strange dude is posting like he is. Looking at you Race...
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On August 29 2016 12:00 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 11:42 Tictock wrote: Scott, whats got you so active this game?
I mean I like it, it's just not what I'm used to. I read the posts I and others made about D1 earlier in the thread. - I never liked d1, but geript's and the one I linked made a lot of sense. You should read them if you have not already TLDR of them - get everyone to not be a null
Yep that's what I got from skimming them.
And geript is a cool dude who should post more... when he can I guess.... sigh
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By the way Scott...
On August 29 2016 07:10 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 07:07 Race Bannon wrote: I hope the host provided the scumteam with the VT flavor, or this will be a concise town victory. This post doesn't make any sense. It's in the OP. Did you roll mafia again?
What did you make of Palmar's reasoning on RB?
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On August 29 2016 14:45 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 08:45 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 08:18 Koshi wrote: Now that Palmar plays I will just let him do his thing and lynch him D3 if we don't lynch mafia. eztactics and 100% foolproof. Hey, that was my plan! Now I feel like I should come up with something more original... but thankfully I'm pretty lazy. For now I think I'll add my weight to the Rels train kus a little pressure on him sounds like a good way to start the game. Still sus of Vivax too, he is playing to a higher degree than last I saw of him as scum but his contributions feel forced and possibly have agenda behind them. Pretty sure Trfel and Dis are both town. That is all. ## Vote: Rels This is really left field and I don't understand where it's coming from. TT explain.
What, my vote on Rels?
a little pressure on him sounds like a good way to start the game
I think it's a little less random than your own opening vote on Dis, I was hoping for more explanation on that...
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On August 29 2016 16:15 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 16:13 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 16:10 disformation wrote: and with all these questions I am fairly surprised you don't ask me where the hell my incredible hard TR on TT comes from. Sure, why are you so confident that Tictock is town? For correctly using meta to TR me, when he could just sheep one of the really strong players scumreading me.
This is a bit weaker than I was hoping for...
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On August 29 2016 21:51 Vivax wrote: I'm going to teh beach I want to see piles on scott when I'm back or I'll be a sad boy
Your WoT made my eyes bleed.
I gather you have some weirdly formed meta read on scott... I hate it. I should probably have good reasons why but I just don't buy the meta argument here.
Honestly I kinda hate that most of the cases put out there so far are heavily meta based. I suppose I should have expected that given this player list.
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On August 29 2016 22:18 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 22:09 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 16:15 disformation wrote:On August 29 2016 16:13 Trfel wrote:On August 29 2016 16:10 disformation wrote: and with all these questions I am fairly surprised you don't ask me where the hell my incredible hard TR on TT comes from. Sure, why are you so confident that Tictock is town? For correctly using meta to TR me, when he could just sheep one of the really strong players scumreading me. This is a bit weaker than I was hoping for... at least i am honest. thoughts on palmar/geript/scott? currently thinking about scott. like at face value I dont dislike his posts, but vivi is right they go nowhere. and I dont know what to take from this post: Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 10:48 scott31337 wrote:On August 29 2016 10:33 Holyflare wrote:On August 29 2016 10:24 DanelerH wrote: I find it odd that Koshi was suspicious of Trfel, but then defended Trfel shortly afterwards. If the former was said in jest, then it's another irrelevant and uncontributive post. Also, if you're using this metric why are you going after Koshi and not hopping aboard the Disformation is mafia train with me? None of disformation's post can be mistaken for jokes, a lot of them defend people (Rels) and then scum lean them (based off a 2 letter post....)? Also, everyone that is following the Palmar wagon on Rels and has said nothing more is in major cop out mode and I will be coming after you big time. Please do, I'm sorry your mafia bud posted two letters and went to sleep and now you have to defend him (I'm joking...somewhat As in: i wouldnt expect scott to post that as either alignment. xD
Palmar:+ Show Spoiler +
Geript:+ Show Spoiler +
Scott:+ Show Spoiler +No offense Scott...
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On August 29 2016 22:59 disformation wrote: Actually having a hard time interpreting these images. You are agreeing with/sheeping my Palmar read? You think the geript thing is so bad, you don't even know what to say about that? No Idea what the thing about Scott is trying to tell me.
Maybe putting people with alignments helped?
I felt up to the challenge of putting my thoughts/feels on people out in this way. I'm mostly happy with my results.
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Meh, it's too early in the game to get all tryhard imo.
I'm also hoping to see more from a few people, I'd be pretty happy if everyone in the game could get up to about two pages of filter.
Here are a few people I'd like to see more from to get better reads* : DanelerH Rels Holyflare Geript Tumblewood
*Not in any order
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On August 30 2016 01:56 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 22:36 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 21:51 Vivax wrote: I'm going to teh beach I want to see piles on scott when I'm back or I'll be a sad boy Your WoT made my eyes bleed. I gather you have some weirdly formed meta read on scott... I hate it. I should probably have good reasons why but I just don't buy the meta argument here. Honestly I kinda hate that most of the cases put out there so far are heavily meta based. I suppose I should have expected that given this player list. And you suck TT. It can't be a meta read cause I'm not judging him based on meta. What I did is much better: I analyzed a confirmed scum in a finished game and found out that scott's play is the one which has most things in common with how a mafia plays, so he's likely mafia. Carefully laid out. That case is science, bitch! If you won't read walls of text made by your suspect don't play this game thanks.
Oh I read your post, that's why my eyes were bleeding.
Your "science" is even worse than what I originally thought you were doing. It reminds me of this...+ Show Spoiler +
Basically you are making a meta read on another player and then applying it to Scott this game. I could probably do the exact same thing with someone who was town in another game. Nowhere in your case do you show how the stuff you quote are evidence of mafia mindset, you just label stuff as useless or random.
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On August 30 2016 02:59 Tumblewood wrote:hm I should have made this post yesterday when I saw this and remembered the post. maybe this was it? Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 12:01 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 11:54 DanelerH wrote: but I'm still unfamiliar with everyone's playstyles. To be honest sometimes being familiar with people can be as much a hindrance as a help. I wouldn't place so much importance on it. Besides sometimes half the fun is just in trying to figure out why this strange dude is posting like he is. Looking at you Race... also the points/demerits shit. substitute for actually doing stuff. he's so polite though and my feels alarm is going off
Since this is the 2nd person to accuse me of being mafia for "being too nice" does this mean everyone thinks I'm an asshole as town?
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On August 30 2016 06:47 Vivax wrote: Koshi said mafia is disconnected from the flow of the thread. I disagree. Grack in 72h wasn't disconnected from it, he was just following it but never having a strong opinion about anything. Pretty much what scott was doing in this game to a tee.
Apparently he agreed with disfo about me and Trfel being buds together or something but that line of thought is not pursued in the slightest afterwards.
I'm just repeating myself I think so I'll keep sitting here until scott dies, I might just sheep Palmar or HF later but I'm not afraid of being the only vote on scott at EoD if I feel like it. So I dnu. Vote scott or gtfo for now. The case stands and so far I've only seen stronlgy subjective remarks to it that don't match my level of effort in making it in the slightest and will be dismissed as such.
I really don't get why you are taking Grack's mafia play and making it the epitome of what it means to be mafia...
On the other hand I'm sorta remembering a game where I thought everything you did was shit and made no sense (and I think we tunneled each other to hell) and it turned out you were town.
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On August 30 2016 08:31 Rels wrote: - TT: I had the exact same impression Tumble posted about. He's reasonnable but, having played with him quite a few times, his "nice" tone matches his scum meta. As town he will not care for what people thinks about him and just post stuff about finding scum.
Ok that's it. I have half a mind to be extremely nice and cordial to you all so that if/when I flip it will put an end to this terrible meta on me.
That is if that's ok with everyone of course.
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On August 30 2016 08:51 Vivax wrote: If that's the case then Palmar used meta as well by your definition when he posted his argument on Rels WHICH YOU SHEEPED(!).
My reason for voting Rels was not because I believed his opening made him mafia.
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On August 30 2016 09:22 Vivax wrote: Like all you're literally doing is defending scott for no reason and getting on my nerves all game.
You have two options to be useful:
1) Make a convincing case on why I'm mafia 2) Make a convincing case on why scott is town.
Otherwise you're really just ruining the game for me. I don't want to put up with your shit.
Crap I'm already failing at being nice to everyone.
I don't think it can be helped though kus I just don't agree with your case on scott. Maybe we should just ignore each other for a bit kus we have a track record of going for each others throats as town.
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On August 30 2016 09:28 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 08:34 Tictock wrote:On August 30 2016 02:59 Tumblewood wrote:hm I should have made this post yesterday when I saw this and remembered the post. maybe this was it? On August 29 2016 12:01 Tictock wrote:On August 29 2016 11:54 DanelerH wrote: but I'm still unfamiliar with everyone's playstyles. To be honest sometimes being familiar with people can be as much a hindrance as a help. I wouldn't place so much importance on it. Besides sometimes half the fun is just in trying to figure out why this strange dude is posting like he is. Looking at you Race... also the points/demerits shit. substitute for actually doing stuff. he's so polite though and my feels alarm is going off Since this is the 2nd person to accuse me of being mafia for "being too nice" does this mean everyone thinks I'm an asshole as town? deference is a good word for what I see
flabbergasted is a much better word though...
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Like I just find it ironic that multiple people are calling me scum for "being nice"
While the one person who was willing to hard town read me earlier is the only one to bring up an actual point that might make me mafia...
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On August 30 2016 09:36 Vivax wrote: I just think you post a lot of derailing hogwash that won't convince anyone to either vote me or not vote scott. But sadly I don't think that it necessarily makes you mafia.
I woke up in a good mood today spending about an hour reading 72 H and this game and trying to display in as much detail as possible how scott was playing like mafia, then some random arses pop in and start saying "tl dr but your case is shit". That'd be Koshi and you, HF at least kept it at the tl dr without being in the automatic setting of just taking a gigantic crap on someone who is actually trying to solve the game.
People like that are gamekillers so step it up kiddo
Fair enough,
This was "Happy go lucky" and is apparently a pic of some girl who was in a movie by that name, who I thought fit well. That's how I felt about scott, he was just here doing his own thing bringing some small stuff to the table. Nothing of what I saw in your post really convinced me that this was scum!scott we are dealing with, and your lead in based on Grack's play in another game is a lv of meta read I'm just not ready for.
Though I'll admit my townlean on him might be less warranted with stuff like this.
On August 30 2016 06:58 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 06:53 Vivax wrote: One more thing that came to my mind seeing the votecount.
It's already mafia indicative that he's still sitting on the Rels wagon when it lost steam. Townies all went looking for better stuff when they had more information available. Palmar gave potential mafia a very easy wagon to switch to, but a hard one to get away from without putting in effort.
The remnants you're seeing on the Rels wagon are the fishlets who got stuck in the bait and don't have the muscle to break free. I'll bother about making a call on TT later cause until scott dies I'm in a strike. You are just really throwing everything and seeing what will stick, aren't you? I didn't like the geript case so I wasn't going to change my vote for that. Rels (well until a half an hour ago) still had not posted. I could change my vote to you if it makes you feel better, but I'd rather wait for Rels to respond.
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I should probably reread this game tonight or something, I will only be around tomorrow for EoD. I'l try to break away from Legion for an hour or two.
I feel ok about flip-flopping totally on Vivax and put him as a townlean. The passion for what he is pushing for is pretty real, even if I don't exactly agree or get it.
I feel pretty ok with not ever considering lynching these people today. Palmar Trfel Disinfo Koshi HF Vivax and I guess RB
so that leaves me these people to look at closer:
Tumblewood Rels DanelerH scott31337 Geript
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