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On August 09 2016 01:48 WaveofShadow wrote: It's been almost a year, we'll see if I can have fun playing mafia again. There isn't anyone in here likely to specifically make a game unfun for me so may as well give it a try, right? I really hope I get a secondary objective that involves making Wave as miserable as possible :D | ||
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On August 16 2016 08:57 Vivax wrote: What I find interesting so far is that 2 people applied for American presidence but not for the soviet unions. Any reason ? In Soviet Russia, President elect you! Since the voting is private, it probably makes sense to cast your votes in the thread and then if the counts differ from the actual result, it could help narrow down who lied. | ||
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On August 16 2016 09:06 Vivax wrote: I think that's too complex especially with this amount of players. Also really only viable if you know the presidents alignments right after the election. Not really though. Say two people pledge their vote to grack. Then we find out grack received 1 vote. We'd essentially know that 1 out of 2 players was lying at that point. It doesn't matter what gracks alignment is. Plus it's not like people aren't going to share who they want to elect as mayor. Shouldn't be too hard to keep track. We don't have lynches so that's really the only alignment indicative thing we've got. | ||
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On August 16 2016 09:43 Koshi wrote: seriously off to bed. Quick, lets all shoot koshi. He can't deal with us if he's asleep. | ||
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On August 16 2016 09:33 iamperfection wrote: my role pm talks about lynches so maybe there are Heh "there is no lynching" isn't exactly ambiguous... You saying your role conflicts with the OP? | ||
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Like, does town need to meet certain requirements or just win? | ||
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On August 16 2016 10:03 Vivax wrote: There are no conflicts I think. There is no lynching and there is no night killing. Everything in the game relies on events and player abilities. Each day lasts 48 hours and the night lasts 24 hours, but there may be abilities and events that change this Ehh I assumed that part pertained to the length of the cycle, but maybe :/ | ||
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On August 16 2016 10:00 Grackaroni wrote: Do you believe this was a lie or do you believe he's a 3rd party that wants town to do well? What's your take? | ||
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On August 16 2016 10:27 Onegu wrote: Fairly certain GlowingBear is scum btw. On August 16 2016 11:07 Onegu wrote: GB meta and I may or may not have a other reason I do not wish to disclose. Why didn't you nuke GlowingBear if you were fairly certain here? | ||
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On August 16 2016 13:34 prplhz wrote: @kitaman27 Why do you think President is Mayor? Just a reference to the fact that it is a day one elected role. Since there are no lynches, it probably makes sense to assume they will receive a kp. I like HF's suggestion that the two elected officials should be town controlled with their actions, but I think it should apply to all presidential candidates, not just HF. We have a 24 hour period after the presidents are elected so we can vote/coordinate then. | ||
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On August 16 2016 19:37 Palmar wrote: The following candidates are running for the President of the United States
Voting is already underway! The following candidates are running for General Secretary of the Communist Party
HF or Tumblewood seem like best bet for President....maybe disfo on an outside chance if those two look terrible by the end of the day. HF has said a few things that mimic what I'm thinking mechanic wise. He's also a fairly competent person to have some type of kp or protective power granted to him. Tumble seems likely to be town from that initial spat of stuff, but not 100% on that yet. The rest are mostly focused on election and stuff. For Soviets I'd say superbia is the better vote, but having him receive the power and then getting nuked would kinda be a waste. One thing I've been thinking about is if maybe onegu nuked superbia to guarantee that his scum buddy chez got elected since the nuke would dissuade votes from the only alternative. | ||
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Onegu claims he is fairly certain GB is scum and then nukes superbia out of the blue after people call him out for the chinese thing which makes him look really scummy. GB's only real post aside from his election talk is a self-defense post, which comes off bad. I seem to remember something similar with a mafia mayor election from him in a past game. I gotta double check the database though when I have a chance. SL seems like he was given the suggestion to lay low in a mafia qt or something. I think town SL would be way less concerned about playing careful or getting nuked. I didn't like that Vivax went out of his way to disagree with my voting plan when there really isn't a downside to the extra information, even if it doesn't pan out in the end. He never explained why it was too complex when asked. His most recent post about disfo just a couple minutes ago makes me like him slightly more, because I was thinking the exact same thing. Arta kinda rubs me the wrong way with his initial few posts so I'll bring him up for good measure. | ||
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My ideas are always solid. Town cred for whoever parrots me. | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:02 Vivax wrote: Your plan is pointless, everyone can lie about their nationality, we will never discover the motivations for why someone would lie until we see flips from either them or the presidents. I have no reason to lie about my nationality, do you? We essentially announce ahead of time (right now) that anyone who lies about their vote will be assumed mafia. That even discourages people with alternate win conditions or whatever from lying because they know they will be punished for lying in the thread. Then once we get the results, we can learn if someone lied about their vote. It doesn't matter if the president that gets elected is town or mafia because only mafia would have the motivation to say they are supporting one candidate and then secretly voting another. Plus it makes people have to take a stance in the thread during a cycle where we don't get the information from a lynch. The vote is really the only alignment indicative info we have on day one, aside from the random nuke or something. Sure, player A can call player B scum, but without a lynch or anything to enforce it, it is pretty empty. | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:11 Vivax wrote: List post time: 3p: TW Scummy: 1gu, GB, disfo, (kita) Likely town: Iampurrfection, superbia. Lock town: Koshi, HTS Rest still on the fence. lol I swear we always have really similar reads every game we play, but then are always are suspicious of each other at the same time XD | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:11 Koshi wrote: Who has real reasons why disinformation is mafia? I don't believe he is mafia for setup talk. Also the fact he can vote 3 times for himself and his power makes him more powerful means that either the rest of the USA is town or mafia get a free president. Especially if they can buy another vote through another member and everything is secret. I think this post was his worst so far. On August 16 2016 22:42 disformation wrote: Like I have a set of reads I am pretty confident in. Maybe I should give GB a scum lean. | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:16 Vivax wrote: We already decided that 1gu lied? Seems like we don't need plans for people to do scummy shit, but gl getting 27 people to do what you want. I already have a hard time getting my posts read even by you when I reply to one of your posts. meh it's not like you can't do one without the other. If someone doesn't care about who gets elected or post an opinion about those 6-8 players in the thread at any point, that says something about them in their own right. | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:10 Palmar wrote: How do you mean to catch the animal Below is the photo caught by an amateur photographer: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/54AHgkd.png) ##Tosses Pokeball | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:22 disformation wrote: I have a passive giving me 2 votes in any beneficial election. What defines "beneficial"? | ||
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So you're saying you have no idea how your role works and didn't take the 30 seconds to ask? | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:26 disformation wrote: It probably means that I won't have 2 automatic votes on me if we are having a lynch vote or something? No lynches though. I'd suggest asking. Palmar isn't going to let me ask how your role works. | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:39 Superbia wrote: Is it flavorwise acceptable that they are both the same alignment? I'm pretty sure I share the same bonus objective. It's probably ambiguous since I don't have any suggestion that the other people trying to achieve this goal are necessarily town. | ||
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On August 16 2016 23:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Arta kinda rubs me the wrong way with his initial few posts so I'll bring him up for good measure. Town Lynched Percentage (Minimum 10 games) + Show Spoiler + kitaman27 0/33 = 0.0000% Artanis[Xp] 0/22 = 0.0000% Trying to get rid of your competition eh? I see what's really going on here. You're gonna have to do better than that homeboy. I also appear to need help. If someone could type ##help Artanis[Xp] I'd be most obliged.[/QUOTE] Competition? Psssh get real. Plus no lynching this game. :D :D :D | ||
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On August 16 2016 22:59 Half the Sky wrote: Holyflare I might need to re-read his filter I'd be interested to hear your opinion of Holyflare as well. On August 16 2016 22:58 kitaman27 wrote: GB's only real post aside from his election talk is a self-defense post, which comes off bad. I seem to remember something similar with a mafia mayor election from him in a past game. I gotta double check the database though when I have a chance. Wasn't able to find any examples of this. I guess I must have been thinking of someone else. Doesn't really change my opinion though. | ||
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On August 17 2016 00:42 Lunaticman wrote: So out of Hilary and Trump. Who is the mafia? I think dis is Hilary, and I would also assume that Hilary is the mafia. Why are you assuming that they have to be opposite alignments. That assumption is scummy since it lets you take a stance that is role related and without substance. | ||
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On August 17 2016 00:47 Lunaticman wrote: I think the mafia are probably something like the invasion of the body snatchers and the earth mafia are working with them to subdue world. So are you essentially calling Artanis mafia for stealing super's legs? | ||
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On August 17 2016 00:59 Lunaticman wrote: Didn't really think about that but that is just WIFIOMING. So you're speculating that there is a mafia faction from space that steals bodies, but then the guy who posts a picture of space and steals body parts was just a coincidence. Uhh.......? | ||
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Yeah I'd still like an explanation for why you chose not to shoot GB after saying you were fairly certain he was mafia. | ||
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On August 17 2016 01:14 Grackaroni wrote: Because Glowingbear is running in the American election? Sheesh Kita. Gotchya. Didn't put 2 and 2 together there. | ||
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On August 17 2016 01:51 GlowingBear wrote: HTS, why am I mafia? Because you're asking about mafia reads on yourself instead of doing anything useful. | ||
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On August 17 2016 02:50 prplhz wrote: this nuke is fired from a PM (not from thread) How do you know this? | ||
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On August 17 2016 03:00 prplhz wrote: because Palmar said all actions are fired from PMs and if it is fired from the thread then it doesn't make sense that Palmar specifically says we don't know who fired it He said that "unless stated otherwise" actions would be PM'd, which infers some actions are PM'd and some are made in the thread. 90% of the time nukes are sent in the thread because it makes the player who fires them have to justify their shot. Otherwise, it's not much different than a standard kp type vigilante role. | ||
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On August 17 2016 04:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Kita is town. That makes me so happy :D Meapak being here makes me happy! | ||
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On August 17 2016 03:07 Lunaticman wrote: Voting for trump and barrack should be fine, Im a bit worried about hilary though. FOS Luna for continuing to make baseless role related reads. We've had a Mafia aligned Batman and Harry Potter and Town aligned Hitlers in past games. You really shouldn't read into that kinda stuff. | ||
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On August 17 2016 02:50 prplhz wrote: walk me through why Onegu is scum I'm kinda confused what your opinion of onegu is after this post. Are you saying he is a town player that is prioritizing some random secondary condition over his town win condition or do you think it makes more sense that he is a trolly third party? | ||
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Carry on. | ||
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On August 17 2016 06:20 disformation wrote: I am speechless. ^ Clearly not the Donald. | ||
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Makes sense to compile an american vote count for the sake of knowing what we are dealing with. GB and chez should be as transparent as possible with their powers.....assuming they received any. | ||
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On August 17 2016 07:44 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not I just like chaos And chaos is good! Explain? | ||
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On August 17 2016 07:36 GlowingBear wrote: Guys, I have 2 extra votes with me in the elections. Carry on. Waiting for Palmar's answer on a question. So you're saying you voted for yourself 3 times like disfo, if I understand correctly? | ||
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On August 17 2016 07:48 Vivax wrote: Kita is scummy for post timing btw. He just seems very detached from the rest that's going on and then pops in right after the election to only comment on the election and giving generic advice that the leaders have to be transparent. Nope. Just got home from my commute and saw the results. About to grab some dinner. Thx tho. | ||
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On August 17 2016 07:52 Superbia wrote: One of my strengths is that all votes on me count double. I voted for myself. So that's 2 votes. How did I not get the leader? x; Soviet results don't seem very trustworthy to be honest. I can't think of a fraction that even makes sense to round to 107%. Like chez receiving 15 out of 14 votes? That's way too many. | ||
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On August 17 2016 07:54 prplhz wrote: It's not an odd assumption to assume that it's likely that at least 1 in 8 is scum. They could have Super PAC'd too. Another thing of interest is that it doesn't seem like a Super Pac was used, unless I'm misinterpreting the part palmar was saying about their favor being noted. | ||
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On August 17 2016 07:42 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, got control of the NSA, but I had to choose between peace and chaos And I chose chaos. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0EMIvla.jpg) | ||
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On August 17 2016 08:09 Holyflare wrote: and he's got some whacky powers like if a black guy dies he dies???????????? I assume that's total bull shit, complete and utter bull shit On August 16 2016 17:52 Holyflare wrote: I'm the cop. It's a good thing that you are uniquely qualified to put his claim to the test. | ||
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On August 17 2016 08:34 Tumblewood wrote: according to the op there's a lot of KP present. Yeah, but for players who don't have access to kp this seems really pointless so far. | ||
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Assuming we have at least 1 other town kp at our disposal, we force a list of like the 5 worst players to post something anti-patriotic in the thread and then decide which of the 5 of target. Anyone who refuses would be shot by the other town kp. I'll try to put a list together | ||
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No sir, but I'm always open for recruitment. As for your question above, I'll try to throw together a list of my top suspects tonight. It would be awfully pleasant if you made one too. | ||
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Onegu prplhz Artanis[Xp] Lunaticman Dandel Ion Shapelog GlowingBear iamperfection sicklucker Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu I'll see if I can narrow this down a bit more and come up with a top 3 or something. | ||
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On August 16 2016 20:19 Lunaticman wrote: Traits: Male/Female: Have no idea what this is for Currency: 1 Gold = 500,000 Dollars 1 Galactic Credit = 10000 Dollars 1 Ruble = 0.01 Dollars 1 Euro = 1 Dollar 1 GBP = 0.1 Dollars 1 Ear = 10,000,000 Dollars Abilities: Tanks?!!? (HolyFlare) Nukes?!!? (Artanis, HolyFlare, Onegu) Phones!!? (Artanis) Building Spaceship!?! (Superbia) Shooting!!? (Dandel Ion) Detecting who shoot nuke (Artanis) Offices: Running for President of USA (Grackaroni, Glowingbear, Tumblewood, Disformation, HolyFlare) Running for President of Soviet (Chezinu, Superbia) Can form Super Pac by spending money. Power roles: President of USA President of Soviet Superman Possible agendas: Gather money for abilities Unitying USA/Soviet Events: Nuke has been launched will hit at end of day. Someone tried to infiltrate Soviet political system. Countries/Locations: USA Soviet Space Others?!? On August 16 2016 20:48 Lunaticman wrote: Update 2: Added First day post, also possible presidents have nukes. Traits: Male/Female: Have no idea what this is for Currency: 1 Gold = 500,000 Dollars 1 Galactic Credit = 10000 Dollars 1 Ruble = 0.01 Dollars 1 Euro = 1 Dollar 1 GBP = 0.1 Dollars 1 Ear = 10,000,000 Dollars Countries/Locations: USA England Soviet Space Others?!? Abilities: Tanks?!!? (HolyFlare) Nukes?!!? (Artanis, HolyFlare, Onegu) Building Spaceship!?! (Superbia) Shooting!!? (Dandel Ion) Detecting who shoot nuke (Artanis) Possible that kills that are performed in USA are punishable Offices: Running for President of USA (Grackaroni, Glowingbear, Tumblewood, Disformation, HolyFlare) Running for President of Soviet (Chezinu, Superbia) Can form Super Pac by spending money. Power roles: President of USA President of Soviet President of England (speculation) President of China (speculation) President of North.Korea (speculation) Items up for bidding: Tank Iphone Possible agendas: Gather money for abilities; such as research Unitying USA/Soviet Brexit Bringing law to Africa Destabilise Europe Building Spaceships with money Building better nukes Global warming Events: Nuke has been launched will hit at end of day. Someone tried to infiltrate Soviet political system. Voting for President without citizenship can get you killed Possible scenarios: Nukes are available for every president. Mafia is trying to bring anarchy to every democratic nation? Looking back through his filter, these post seems really bad. It's as if he's trying to trying to come up with some way to appear useful to the thread, but has no idea how to go about that. Considering this really serves no purpose at all, it definitely comes off as scummy | ||
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It really doesn't make sense for Palmar to go through listing a whole bunch of currencies and then have the Chinese guy end up using Euros or something dumb like that, so he is obviously lying on that front. His nuke on super was crazy anti-town. I don't see that as a town yolo type of deal based on his filter. It seems more likely that he figured he's the type of player that can get away with doing something wacky because it's just onegu being onegu. Back in one of the WaW mafia games, I essentially did something similar, claiming a silly 3rd party Pacifist Ocean role and launched like 5 nukes at random people. I tend to think that the nuke had to be fired in the thread so maybe the mafia figured they might as well use it early because if they wait too long then town is essentially going to take control of the kp if onegu ever claims it. The results of the election seem really underwhelming. Like we really only got the Fox News thing out of it and it doesn't even sound like GB knew what he was giving us. Basically when you make a theme game with multiple election events, you design it so both town or mafia is able to reward themselves for winning, which sounds really similar to the peace/chaos thing. I found it townie that he revealed his chaos choice, but at the same time he probably had no idea how Palmar would report his choice of chaos in the BBC news so he probably figured there was less risk if he shared it, rather than getting caught with his pants down. Another thing, in what world is it okay that Chez gets elected, uses a power, and then continues on with absolutely no explanation. As town, we're letting these guys skate by way too easily here. We really shouldn't be giving them a free pass considering this game has no lynch and unless we're relying on a couple of town vig roles to carry the game, we're going nowhere. My super short mafia list would be something like onegu, GB, Chez, Artanis, Luna, prpl, iamp but I have no idea how we're supposed to deal with them at this point. | ||
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On August 17 2016 21:03 Half the Sky wrote: Luna is solving the game a little bit from a role/mechanic standpoint What makes you say that he is solving the game, as opposed to summarizing? It seems to me that his only conclusion from those big posts was that the earth was being invaded by body snatchers and that Hilary is evil. Even then, he didn't pick up on the Artanis thing when I prompted him and the Hilary thing hasn't lead anywhere. It's one thing for a newbie to get caught up in role speculation, but when it's the only thing someone is doing, it becomes a concern. #1519 is definitely his best post so far, so maybe there is hope if we see more of those and less of that giant list. | ||
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On August 17 2016 21:20 Koshi wrote: I am the new and improved Koshi. Pleasant to and for everybody. ^ Definitely got targeted by one of those body snatchers ^ | ||
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On August 17 2016 22:32 Vivax wrote: Anyway I'm killing prplhz for his bluff, it was really pointless for a townie to do and his overall play looks bad as well. To be honest, the bluff doesn't seem all that relevant to me, but there is a bunch of other stuff that makes him likely mafia. Did you kamikaze him or something? | ||
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On August 17 2016 17:13 Koshi wrote: iamp is 100% mafia. 1) whines about the game. Hasn't done shit. 2) defends GB with stupid wifom reasoning. 3) whines some more about the deadline which was always going to be 00:00 CET. Not town iamp. Kill with all the fires. lol you're missing the biggest thing against him. The fake role claim. | ||
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On August 17 2016 22:42 Dandel Ion wrote: koshi, kita and kurumi (the kkk for short) decided they wanted you dead We also don't like black people. | ||
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On August 17 2016 23:42 Half the Sky wrote: This is where I am: Not entirely sure/will need to be sussed out a bit more: GlowingBear (some townie thought towards the end, though I am deliberately ignoring mechs here, some similar reads to mine) Dandel Ion (meh) Lunaticman (need to really see actual reads and not just surviving on mech discussion) Grackaroni (originally was good but not remembering too many impactful posts from him more recently, falling under the radar?) MZ (some of his reads I liked but more content would make me more confident on him) The "dear vig, please take out the trash" pile: Rels (pending catching up) Stutters695 Kurumi Shapelog Fecalfeast Possible scum Trfel (it's somewhere in my filter) sicklucker (where are the reads) Chezinu (all he does is go on about his position, someone please shoot him, clearly he's not helping town even compared to Star Wars where you got some semblance he was trying to) Scum reads prplhz Onegu (I make no distinction between anti-town third parties and scum) IAP I would move GB and Luna down to one of the lower tiers and suggest the vig's focus on the scum reads, while using investigative roles on the trash pile, but this is a solid list overall. | ||
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Otherwise, I'm sending the package back where it came from with a bomb attached to it. Thank you kindly! ^_^ | ||
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On August 17 2016 07:47 GlowingBear wrote: I can't Only Palmar knows what that means On August 18 2016 00:06 GlowingBear wrote: I'll come clean with you. I had to choose between powers. One was to nuke a terrorist, another was to put a bounty on a player, other was to turn USA in a dictatorship, the other one was to turn the rest of the day into a normal lynch game, and another was to suspend the laws of the U.S. I thought suspending the laws of US would be funnier and would lead to more people killing each other, which would grant us more information. That's the chaos I chose. The American president is lying to us! I call for an impeachment! | ||
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On August 18 2016 00:11 GlowingBear wrote: I didn't know what suspending the laws would do. I thought people would start killing themselves, a lot. Thus, chaos. But you said that peace/chaos was related to your NSA bonus for getting elected. Now it's related to suspending the laws of the US? Make up your mind. | ||
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Most people tend to refer to me as "kita", but in the QT they call me "kitaman". Here are the individuals who have also refereed to me as "kitaman" at some point in the thread. Don't really think it would be HTS and Vivax has looked more townie to me the last 24 hours. Could be grack or Artanis I suppose. On August 16 2016 21:59 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman - lots of talk about mechs so far but no reads. Also I recall from PYP Keirathi made an accurate read on him, him talking at people and not talking to people is mafia-indicative for him, and that's what I'm seeing so far with him. On August 16 2016 22:39 Half the Sky wrote: He has posted a set of reads so this read can change, similar issue to what I'm seeing with Kitaman when he was posting earlier. On August 17 2016 00:58 Half the Sky wrote: I feel better about Kitaman as town after reading these posts: On August 17 2016 01:27 Half the Sky wrote: at Kitaman's prior question to me: On August 17 2016 20:12 Half the Sky wrote: Tumblewood and Skynx (and GlowingBear to a lesser extent), why is Kitaman mafia? On August 16 2016 22:05 Vivax wrote: I like those. But I'm not a confident kitaman reader. On August 17 2016 14:56 Grackaroni wrote: Kitaman pushing Lunatic for focusing on flavor related things is no bueno. I think this is to be expected from Lunatic. On August 17 2016 19:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Why are you 100% on Skynx/Lunatic/Kitaman/HF? Knowledge dump pls. | ||
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On August 18 2016 01:33 Grackaroni wrote: Because the banana seems like a useful item. I have no item description for what the banana does. I assume it means something to a certain role maybe? Anyone need it? If not, I'll probably just pass it on to someone that seems townie. I was going to try to "Dust for fingerprints" to see if that was an acceptable option. | ||
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On August 18 2016 02:51 Grackaroni wrote: - "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it. For posting that banana picture." Well according to the guy in QT 3 you can do whatever you want with it. Have you tried making suggestions to Palmar for the banana's use? Dust for fingerprints was my only suggestion so far. Haven't heard back. | ||
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On August 18 2016 02:52 Grackaroni wrote: Kitaman tried to frame me over this banana shit. He moves to the top of my scum list. wut? I'm trying to figure out who gave me the thing. The only time I mentioned you was because you called me kitaman, which is really the only info we have to go by. | ||
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On August 18 2016 03:09 Grackaroni wrote: Explain yourself Kitaman. I'm not really sure what you are asking? | ||
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On August 18 2016 03:17 Grackaroni wrote: Did you receive the banana before or after your post about items? Before, the item I was referring to was the banana. | ||
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On August 18 2016 03:19 kitaman27 wrote: Before, the item I was referring to was the banana. Though that brings up a good point. I don't think there was a huge gap between the time I made my banana picture post and the time that I received the item. Maybe we can check who was around in the thread at that time. | ||
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On August 18 2016 03:19 Grackaroni wrote: You didn't get any information about the banana? No, just that I received it. | ||
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On August 18 2016 03:20 kitaman27 wrote: Though that brings up a good point. I don't think there was a huge gap between the time I made my banana picture post and the time that I received the item. Maybe we can check who was around in the thread at that time. And the dandel banana timing too. | ||
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On August 18 2016 03:39 Grackaroni wrote: Was that you Kita? Negative. We must hunt down the notorious FruitDealer! | ||
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On August 18 2016 05:14 Fecalfeast wrote: It's in my role pm I guess this makes it possible for onegu to be Chinese then I suppose. What type of currency do you use FF? | ||
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On August 18 2016 05:43 Koshi wrote: Is it in your role pm? Because if it is, and it is not "dangerous" for you to tell, just share pls. In World at War 2 Mafia Palmar was some third party alien dude who won after the Earth was turned into a nuclear wasteland so there might be a similar mechanic at play here. | ||
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 It seems more likely that a mafia shooting a town HF would simply just hide the shot rather than claiming the shot as RNG, so that gives me townie feels. What was bothering you about him that wanted to make you shoot him to begin with though? On August 19 2016 04:44 disformation wrote: @Kita: did you influence any of the elections? Nope | ||
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Really Town Half the Sky Koshi Disformation Tumblewood kitaman27 Mostly Townie Skynx Damdred Dandel Ion Fecalfeast No Clue Kurumi Stutters695 Trfel Rels sicklucker Shapelog Kinda scummy, but less so than group below Artanis[Xp] Lunaticman Meapak_Ziphh Probably Mafia GlowingBear iamperfection prplhz Chezinu | ||
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On August 19 2016 07:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Kita why do you think fecalfeast is mostly townie? His play so far doesn't really remind me of the last game I played with him where I red checked him in PYPI. Plus having HTS as your main mafia read is one of those too crazy to be scum kinda things. He hasn't posted much at all so he was pretty close to making the null list. | ||
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I promise to be completely transparent with all my actions as Chancellor. If I'm able to share my election choices with the thread before choosing, I'll definitely do so. Otherwise I'll go with the most pro-town option like a lynch or public dt check. I also get a bonus power if elected, similar to Obama's NSA quicktopic spy bonus power, so that would swell to obtain. Vote for Kita ^_^ | ||
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On August 19 2016 07:29 prplhz wrote: Just gonna ##Vote Chezinu I'll second this. | ||
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That or glowingbear. | ||
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On August 19 2016 09:19 Half the Sky wrote: I'm back. Work has been a beast. Actually it's been pretty terrible but I digress. Quick question for you, were you around during the whole banana QT discussion? | ||
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On August 19 2016 10:50 kitaman27 wrote: Quick question for you, were you around during the whole banana QT discussion? The reason I ask is that I can't wrap my head around how this makes sense. I post the picture of the banana and in the QT you say that you are planning to give it to me. Yet Dandel and grack posted banana pics and received them rather quickly, so if you have to trigger the banana giving you'd have to be around. But that means that you left us chase this random banana person we assumed is mafia without coming forward. You also haven't explained why this was posted in your quicktopic: "on second thought I am just going to babble some nonsense and go down with the ship" What gives? | ||
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On August 17 2016 23:42 Half the Sky wrote: Not entirely sure/will need to be sussed out a bit more: GlowingBear (some townie thought towards the end, though I am deliberately ignoring mechs here, some similar reads to mine) Dandel Ion (meh) Lunaticman (need to really see actual reads and not just surviving on mech discussion) Grackaroni (originally was good but not remembering too many impactful posts from him more recently, falling under the radar?) MZ (some of his reads I liked but more content would make me more confident on him) The "dear vig, please take out the trash" pile: Rels (pending catching up) Stutters695 Kurumi Shapelog Fecalfeast Possible scum Trfel (it's somewhere in my filter) sicklucker (where are the reads) Chezinu (all he does is go on about his position, someone please shoot him, clearly he's not helping town even compared to Star Wars where you got some semblance he was trying to) Scum reads prplhz Onegu (I make no distinction between anti-town third parties and scum) IAP I would say that vigis should target the bottom six players. Also, there were 11 different players that you listed that looked worse that Grack. But you decided to shoot him because he was a better choice than Dandel or myself? That's a pretty weak explanation. Like if I were in your spot I'd just tell half the game to post banana pics or something. | ||
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On August 19 2016 17:02 disformation wrote: which would explain why no one wants to say they are Muslim. I'd be more than happy to welcome any Muslims with open arms! These poor refugees heading to the Soviet Union need to know that there is another option. We have more than enough room for all of you. And your family. And your friends. And that Achmed guy that you've always thought was a bit sketchy. I have a new home for you! | ||
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On August 19 2016 09:34 Half the Sky wrote: Kita, why do you think Artanis and MZ might be scum? Especially Artanis? With Arta he has a five page filter, but hasn't really said much at all. It reminds me of that resistance game where he kinda just skated by as a really neutral player without upsetting anyone too bad. This game he has mostly gone after the afk folks who are easy pickings. There was also a post where he said something about Trfel about some sort of meta read and then returned to the thread 3 minutes later saying it was false, which seems like something you'd say if you want the thread to know that you are "looking into something" rather than actually spending the time to do so. MZ seems like he is watching the game, rather than playing in it. I guess that doesn't necessarily make him mafia, but I'm used to him taking decent stands on things every so often as town. He did mention that he is busy with the whole military thing so maybe that explains it. I'd say he is on the lower priority side of things at the moment. | ||
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On August 19 2016 20:42 disformation wrote: hmmmm... both vivax and HF really didnt like iamp and GB? Unless you're thinking Skynx might be mafia, it's unlikely HF was killed for his reads....though both of those are probably correct anyways. | ||
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On August 19 2016 22:40 disformation wrote: I also feel like 90% of the game is happening behind my back and I have 0 influence on that. lol I feel the same way. Like we have no lynch, I have next to no money, and no way to kill. I'm kinda just twiddling my thumbs, waiting to be able to do something. Hopefully the election will at least let me impact things. ##Vote Kita | ||
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Can this be used this phase or do we need to wait until the action phase to choose a target? Have you already used your kp prpl? | ||
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On August 19 2016 23:12 disformation wrote: As long as you Euros don't elect Trfel...  We should all consolidate our votes on myself for Europe. If we split between me and koshi then we might end up with like 2-3 each and then someone like Trfel could squeeze through with some vote manipulation or something. | ||
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On August 19 2016 11:51 Chezinu wrote: Ilya Ivanov could help... I wonder if he is willing to help out.. Ilya Ivanovich Ivanov (Russian: Илья́ Ива́нович Ивано́в, August 1 [O.S. July 20] 1870-March 20, 1932) was a Russian and Soviet biologist who specialized in the field of artificial insemination and the interspecific hybridization of animals. He may have been involved in controversial attempts to create a human-ape hybrid. Take a look at Ivanov's bio on Wikipedia. If he is attempting to create a human-ape hybrid, I bet he is responsible for handing out the bananas. What do you know about this guy Chezinu? | ||
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On August 20 2016 00:59 Rels wrote: That's a lot of names. Can you give me some means of flying ? ![[image loading]](https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkdstkUwMM1qi4ns0o1_500.gif) Don't worry. One day you'll be a beautiful butterfly. | ||
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It took 6 years and 50 games but I finally won an election! This may be the happiest day of my life. I'd like to thank my family for all their support and a special thanks to anyone who made this possible! Here are my choices: overthrow democracy bail out greence rb a player kill refugees start a lynch Absolutely none of these options seem useful to me aside from the lynch, so that's what I'll pick unless someone else convinces me otherwise. I guess the zombie refugees sound icky, but I'm not sure what getting rid of them would do... | ||
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Poll: Choice Double Lynch (7) Lynch plus kill zombies (5) Other (2) 14 total votes Your vote: Choice (Vote): Double Lynch Voting double lynch. I'll go with majority after 15 minutes. I need to choose soon. | ||
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On August 19 2016 22:13 kitaman27 wrote: I'd be more than happy to welcome any Muslims with open arms! These poor refugees heading to the Soviet Union need to know that there is another option. We have more than enough room for all of you. And your family. And your friends. And that Achmed guy that you've always thought was a bit sketchy. I have a new home for you! Also, I'd like to completely retract this statement. Refugees? Okay. Muslims? Fine. Zombie Muslim Refugees? Hell no. Go to Belgium instead. I hear it's nice there. | ||
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A second lynch seems like it would be way more helpful clearing out the dead weight. | ||
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Since nobody who voted zombies has come forward, I'm going to assume that's the mafia preference. Choosing double lynch. | ||
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I'd say GlowingBear, Trfel, iamperfection, and chezinu are the priorities. We have a couple vig shots too right? I wonder if we can take out all of them. | ||
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Forced "kill me" post, plus his role scum slip, plus general scumminies. | ||
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On August 19 2016 17:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote: My sciency background told me that climate change is a left-wing liberal bullshit hoax btw. | ||
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1) You explain that you didn't want me elected because you thought there was a chance I might kill you, but failed to worry about splitting the vote allowing rich Trfel to bribe 3 countries plus his own vote to steal the election from koshi or myself. 2) You're caught joking about global warming in what most certainly looks like the mafia qt considering they are talking about getting away with shooting a really strong town HF and laughing about the bananas, which really only makes sense from the mafia perspective. 3) It took you getting caught for you to actually care about something going on this game. | ||
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On August 20 2016 22:00 prplhz wrote: Nobody is entertaining the idea that kitaman27 is scum and faking those QT bits either. Or that the people in the QT are scum and faking it. GB had the QT bits day one and disfo posted them day two. Not sure what you are referring to here. | ||
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On August 20 2016 23:13 prplhz wrote: the notification stuff makes no sense for scum and the only reason to lynch him besides the notification stuff is the same as the reason for lynching Trfel. and i'll lynch someone who isn't doing or claiming anything over someone who is anytime. In what world is iamp doing anything this game? He is literally just taunting us to nuke him o.O | ||
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On August 20 2016 23:29 Koshi wrote: To expand on 2) Either you believe the QT is possible fake and you don't vote for Skynx. OR You believe the QT is real and you vote Skynx. But what you did is say that the QT is real but it isn't you in there, and not vote Skynx. Exactly this. | ||
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On August 20 2016 23:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote: When you're accused by a bunch of people one tends to lose track of things. Either the QT is legit and Skynx is mafia or the QT is fake and you two are being framed. You argue that Skynx is mafia AND you're being framed. How do you lose track of that? | ||
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On August 21 2016 06:21 Chezinu wrote: Can you cure me? I've been living in the USSR with tons of explosions everywhere... WHAT IF I R INFECTED!!!!! OH WAIT! The zombies can't touch me!!! I are radioactives!! which is totes anti-zombie. Well, zombie are leaving now... so cures would be the cools!!! What do you know about Ilya Ivanov? | ||
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On August 22 2016 06:59 Half the Sky wrote: Where I stand: Town (no particular order) Koshi Kitaman disformation HTS Most Likely Town Lunaticman Damdred Town Lean MZ The "Why in the Bloody Hell Did You Sign Up for this Game" Category Stutters695 Kurumi Fecalfeast Tumblewood Under Review Artanis Third Party - Apparently Neutral Rels (hold him accountable in the late game but I think he's okay) Third Party - Anti-Town (implied or stated) IAMP (evaded lynch, can be dealt with via kp if he continues to mafia-side since a decent chuck of mafia might be bulletproof here) Scum Lean sicklucker (overall play, a few good points DI made on him) Shapelog (only pushes in filter have been against flipped town or townreads, really nothing but spam absent the day he was in the gulag) Mafia that can/should be dealt with via lynch GlowingBear (overall gameplay, evaded Damded's kp) prplhz (likely either third party anti town or mafia PGO given what happened to Vivax, overall gameplay has ranged from useless to disruptive, never mind post lynch comments) Chezinu (Koshi tone read him as mafia, aside from gameplay, evaded at least one vigshot from Luna but is willing to use nukes in spite of the global warming warnings. If he's not mafia, he's third party but given that he's evaded I believe a vigshot and a nuke, he will need to be lynched outright) I'd say my reads are really, really close to this as well. I think you're going too easy on the third party claims (I'd list them under scum lean), but other than that it is a solid list. The problem with people like Rels and iamp is that if we accept their survivalist win conditions, then they have no reason to prove to us that they aren't actually mafia. They get to skate by for 5 days straight because they know there will always be a couple players that look worse. If they aren't interested in scum hunting with us, then we should just assume they are scum. Luna I gotta take another look at to see if I feel better about him or not. FF and tumble I'd still say are worthy of being bumped up to town lean, but meh. GB, prpl, and chez are my top three at this point too. | ||
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I'd consider koshi I guess if HTS and disfo want to go with him this time. I think we should do the same thing as last time and paraphrase the options once elected and then let town choose the one that seems like it would be the most beneficial. | ||
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On August 19 2016 23:36 Dandel Ion wrote: Ok so I used a power that I thought would be a watcher + tell me what the people targetting actually did That sound too good to be true, it's because it is it was nowhere this good i used it on Hats because i figured either as town shed be shot or as mafia shenanigans would happen around her so i could have caught another scum and her potentially well turns out she got shot* by player 14770601 she also got medic saved* by player 91757281 Does anyone have any explanation for this one? I've been trying to figure out the numbers, but I haven't had any luck so far. Dandel's flip didn't indicate this was one of his abilities so does anyone else have a power that might be the key to figuring this out? On August 21 2016 06:59 Dandel Ion wrote: i dont think anybody can manage to get modkilled for palmars standards of being a dick maybe koshi has it in him but he turned soft I also tried to see if dandel might have bread crumbed his protect in the event that he got shot and died. He posted this exactly 1 minute before the deadline so maybe he was protecting koshi? It's kinda hard to say. | ||
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We aren't confirmed to each other (which should be obvious considering that I've had GB on my mafia list for a while now). There hasn't been a lot said, aside from sharing a few reads on day one and a bit about his election powers. GB was actually the person who told me to post the banana in the thread to confirm that I was really kita. He claims it was a coincidence, but I have a hard time believing that. | ||
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On August 22 2016 23:04 Koshi wrote: Thx my brother from another mother. Let me know if you have any wishes that need fulfillment! You could send me a bribe or something. I don't really have any reason to buy a spaceship, but it would be pretty sweet to taunt Rels from my sweet new ride. | ||
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Buzz is from the planet Morph, so that technically makes him an alien, doesn't it? | ||
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We essentially have as many kp as we want, assuming we coordinate correctly. One thing we have to be aware of is that mafia might have the ability to mess with the mechanics. For instance, in the 1st factory game the mafia team flipped the queue, killing the entire town in one cycle. Chez, GB, and prpl are probably the three that we should definitely incinerate. iamp, Shape, Rels are also worth consideration since we can kill them off with no loss of town kp. In the future if we decide we need to kill them, we might have to waste a cycle where we only have a single lynch. | ||
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We need to be careful and coordinate this to make sure we optimize our actions with the limited number of moves we have. | ||
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On August 23 2016 07:48 Half the Sky wrote: Okay, well I just blew my push before I saw this. Awesome. Heh you actually cost us 2 moves by moving chez to safety, but it's okay as long as nobody else wastes their vote. On August 23 2016 07:48 Half the Sky wrote: I also agree with your list. Also Shapelog was poisoned so he might already be dead regardless. Yeah assuming that we have the votes we can double kill shape. Otherwise, use the "lynch" on others and hope the poison goes through. | ||
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On August 23 2016 07:52 disformation wrote: yeah i also had zero idea what i was signing up for and i will not sign up for themed games in the future. As the cheerleader for the pro-themed game crowd, this game is excellent. | ||
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1) chezinu 2) GlowingBear 3) prplhz Does anyone strongly oppose to these three for starters? | ||
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On August 23 2016 07:55 Half the Sky wrote: Well Kurumi pulled him back for whatever reason, I'm not sure where the two comes from but I'm guessing pulling others back would have moved him further up? But yeah. Kurumi pulled him so we can kill him. It's much easier to kill chez by pulling them off the edge than pushing him into the fire. | ||
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On August 23 2016 07:56 Tumblewood wrote: this makes prplhz 100% town imo. interesting thought but improbable. I should check if we can push the item. If I remember correctly, there were items in the previous factory mafia games. They let you influence the queue in different ways. | ||
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On August 23 2016 07:57 Tumblewood wrote: no. if we push him off the edge he escapes the conveyor belt altogether. They escape...and then die. "However for every player that escapes, the flames will burn brighter, making more spots "red" aka "dead"." | ||
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On August 23 2016 07:58 kitaman27 wrote: They escape...and then die. "However for every player that escapes, the flames will burn brighter, making more spots "red" aka "dead"." oh I'm wrong. I misinterpreted this part. | ||
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We can use this list to keep track of how many actions we have left to use. We gotta assume that the players that are about to get burned aren't going to cooperate so we need to save an extra push to counter their pull for every person we decide to kill. We also gotta assume that a couple people will be afk and forget to push/pull, though hopefully we can get more participation than the previous time. Tumblewood push pull Artanis[Xp] push pull Rels push pull Lunaticman push pull kitaman27 push pull Stutters695 push pull Damdred push pull Shapelog push pull Fecalfeast push pull Disformation push pull GlowingBear push pull iamperfection push pull sicklucker push pull Meapak_Ziphh push pull Chezinu push pull prplhz Kurumi Half the Sky Once we finalize the list, we can start deciding who to use their push/pulls to send them down into the danger zone. | ||
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On August 23 2016 08:16 Half the Sky wrote: Or rather a rephrasing. 4. Humans can be PoPed to the edge of the conveyor belt (aka the highest or lowest slot on the queue). If they are pushed past that they will escape the hellish nightmare. However for every player that escapes, the flames will burn brighter, making more spots (on the conveyor belt) "red" aka "dead". Kita, can you confirm this? In the previous factory games, if you pulled a player off the conveyor then they would instantly die. In this game, it looks like the mechanics have been changed so that they live and we create more fire. I think the ideal strat here is just to avoid pulling people off completely. | ||
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On August 23 2016 08:17 Rels wrote: Yeah you're right. But ive initially thought chez would die if pushed back so kurumi could have thought that too Yeah before I was corrected, I thought the same exact thing since that was how it worked in every other game. Kurumi, were you trying to save or kill chez there? | ||
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I'll try to count how many actions we need for each player. | ||
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On August 23 2016 07:13 disformation wrote: @kita @luna can anyone of you do stuff? Like role wise? Not really. I can relocate people with one power. The other power of mine gets activated under certain conditions, which haven't been met yet. To be honest, I don't think it will ever get met, but I could be wrong. | ||
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On August 23 2016 10:45 sicklucker wrote: dont worry about the stupid item just kill people If we push mafia into the item slot, they could gain the power to save themselves or swap positions with a player or whatever. Seems best to keep it in town's hands. | ||
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Here are the priority tier lists at the moment. Definitly kill Chezinu GlowingBear prplhz Clearing out the trash because we have kp to spare iamperfection Rels Kurumi Shapelog Possibly remaining mafia, but we should probably hold of until we see today's flips Artanis[Xp] Lunaticman 99% not killing unless there is a really compelling case I haven't seen Stutters695 Fecalfeast Don't consider killing kitaman27 Koshi Tumblewood Damdred Disformation sicklucker Meapak_Ziphh Half the Sky Do you guys think it makes sense to settle of the top seven? Or more/less? | ||
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On August 23 2016 11:49 iamperfection wrote: I will follow whoever has plan that involves me not dying in this cycle. They can even have my support going forward. lol you already said you'd work with mafia to survive. Why wouldn't we kill you if we have the ability to do so at no cost to town? | ||
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On August 23 2016 11:54 GlowingBear wrote: Btw kita is 100% msfia No u. | ||
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On August 23 2016 22:12 disformation wrote: yup. would love to get like 6kp out of this, but depending on how powerful the item is and/or who shows up when, we might need to play it a bit safer. I seem to remember a themed game where town essentially could choose as many lynches as they want, but in return mafia received that many kp. I wonder if we might be dealing with something similar here. Anyone remember if this was a Palmar game? I can't find it so far. | ||
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On August 23 2016 08:10 Palmar wrote: 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__Item__][__________] 4.[__________][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_] 6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[___________][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][___________] 12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Chezinu_][__Kurumi__] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] If there is a free spot horizontally to the right, will a player take that position before moving vertically up? For instance, now that we pushed disfo twice, is it possible that he is sitting in 4b, like below: 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__Item__][__________] 4.[__________][_Disformation_] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_] 6.[_Damdred_][_]_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[___________][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][___________] 12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Chezinu_][__Kurumi__] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] We would need to expand an extra push to get him to the item slot if it works this way. | ||
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okay nevermind. So the only way to get to 4b is if 4a is occupied and you get pushed from 5+, which didn't happen in this case, right? | ||
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Consider this scenario where tumble's initial plan left us off. + Show Spoiler [we are here] + 1.[__________][___________] 2.[_GlowingBear_][__________] 3.[_iamperfection_][_Chezinu_] 4.[__________prplhz__][__Kurumi__] 5.[__________][_Lunaticman_] 6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation w/item_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[__][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][__________] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][__________] 12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[__________][__________] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] 1 pull on luna (maybe) 1 pull on damdred 1 pull on disfo + Show Spoiler [final position] + 1.[__________][___________] 2.[_GlowingBear_][__________] 3.[_iamperfection_][_Chezinu_] 4.[__prplhz__][__Kurumi__] 5.[__________][__________] 6.[__________][__________] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[_Lunaticman_][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_Damdred_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Disformation w/item_] 12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[__________][__________] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] Assuming 2/5 of those players listed are mafia, they can both execute a pull on myself or tumble and pull one of us off the queue, granting them a danger zone in level 6. Then they can use a single push to kill any townie of their choosing from row 7 to 11 (since they would automatically be pushed to 6), so we could lose HTS and disfo for free. If we assume that mafia will send these actions during the final seconds of the cycle, we won't have time to react, so we gotta make sure that we plan ahead of time so this can't happen...or at least so we can limit our losses if it does. Alternatively, they could do something like a double push on glowingbear, a double pull on myself, which would turn rows 6 and 7 into fire, while saving glowingbear from death in the process. | ||
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1.[__________][___________] 2.[_GlowingBear_][__________] 3.[_iamperfection_][_Chezinu_] 4.[__prplhz__][__Kurumi__] 5.[__________][__________] 6.[_Disformation w/item_][_Half the Sky_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[_Lunaticman_][_Shapelog_] 9.[[__________][_Damdred_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][[__________] 12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[__________][__________] 14.[[__________][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] OR 1.[__________][___________] 2.[__________][__________] 3.[_iamperfection_][_Chezinu_] 4.[__prplhz__][__Kurumi__] 5.[__________][__________] 6.[__________][__________] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[_Lunaticman_][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_Damdred_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][[_Disformation w/item_] 12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[__________][__________] 14.[[__________][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] We may need to come up with a plan to avoids putting anyone in slot two or 14 by the end of the cycle. It is still susceptible to a 3 mafia end of day plan, but I don't think we can get around that. | ||
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I'll see if we can fit all the townies between 8 and 13, while still having enough push/pulls otherwise. | ||
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That means everyone that was on my original "don't kill", "99% don't kill", and "might be mafia, but shouldn't kill yet" can fit into those slots. We can condense the town into those safe spots to avoid shenanigans and then push the baddies into slots 3 and 4. A baddie could theoretically save themselves from 4 with a double pull, but at least in that scenario we don't have an extra red zone and wouldn't lose any other townies. | ||
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On August 24 2016 00:02 Kurumi wrote: are you seriously considering pushing a guy who killed onegu d1, pushed glowingbear today, wanted to kill him before I got to know that everyone including space people is roleblocked, claimed mufasa's check and did not blow up the moon? jesus christ You realize onegu flipped town right....? | ||
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1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__Disformation__][__________] 4.[__________][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_] 6.[_Damdred_][____________] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[___________][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][___________] 12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Chezinu_][__Kurumi__] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] Pull Luna Pull Disfo Pull Disfo We for sure want to get Disfo back to safety. Doing the pull on Luna first, puts disfo in a safer spot. Push kita Push chezinu Push Tumble Then can move me up to 11 to save a push on chezinu and then move tumble to safety at the 13 spot as well. 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__________][__________] 4.[__________][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Chezinu_] 6.[_Damdred_][_Lunaticman_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[__Disformation__][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Kitaman27_] 12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Tumblewood_][__Kurumi__] 14.[___________][___________] 15.[__________][__________] Now we can push prpl up to 4 and pull back damdred to safety. Push prpl Pull damdred 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__________][__________] 4.[__prplhz__][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Chezinu_] 6.[__________][_Lunaticman_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[__Disformation__][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Kitaman27_] 12.[_Damdred_][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Tumblewood_][__Kurumi__] 14.[___________][___________] 15.[__________][__________] By my count that is 4 pulls and 4 pushes. Now we have a couple options how we want to finish this up. We can either roast just the three baddies like disfo mentioned, in which case we would want to push GlowingBear and Chezinu to slots three and then swap Luna with either iamp or kurumi to keep the scummier people in 6 in case of shenanigans. Or we can send additional people into the flames like tumble originally laid out. Either way we should have more than enough pushes and pulls to spare even if some people afk this afternoon/evening. Anyone see any issues with this? | ||
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On August 24 2016 00:29 disformation wrote: I think this works. I would add another pull to luna at the end, so scum cant save chez with one pull? Yeah, assuming that we settle on just the 3 kills, the final image would look something like this: 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__Disformation__][__________] 4.[__________][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_] 6.[_Damdred_][____________] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[___________][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][___________] 12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Chezinu_][__Kurumi__] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] Pull Luna Pull Disfo Pull Disfo We for sure want to get Disfo back to safety. Doing the pull on Luna first, puts disfo in a safer spot. Push kita Push chezinu Push Tumble Then can move me up to 11 to save a push on chezinu and then move tumble to safety at the 13 spot as well. 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__________][__________] 4.[__________][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Chezinu_] 6.[_Damdred_][_Lunaticman_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[__Disformation__][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Kitaman27_] 12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Tumblewood_][__Kurumi__] 14.[___________][___________] 15.[__________][__________] Now we can push prpl up to 4 and pull back damdred to safety. Push prpl Pull damdred 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__________][__________] 4.[__prplhz__][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Chezinu_] 6.[__________][_Lunaticman_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[__Disformation__][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Kitaman27_] 12.[_Damdred_][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Tumblewood_][__Kurumi__] 14.[___________][___________] 15.[__________][__________] Push Glowingbear, push chezinu Push GlowingBear Push kurumi Pull luna 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[_Chezinu_][_GlowingBear_] 4.[__prplhz__][__________] 5.[___________][___________] 6.[__Kurumi__][__________] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[__Disformation__][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Kitaman27_] 12.[_Damdred_][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Tumblewood_][_Lunaticman_] 14.[___________][___________] 15.[__________][__________] That would be 8 pushes and 5 pulls total. | ||
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On August 24 2016 00:35 disformation wrote: 8 pushes is a tad much since we already used a bunch? unless we can force the 3P/scummers to do our bidding or claim scum? We can get away with keeping GB in the 4th slot or even not moving kurumi down to 6 if we totally run out of moves. Those were mostly safeguards without changing the outcome. | ||
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On August 24 2016 00:53 Lunaticman wrote: Can you elaborate what you mean? This feels significant. lol says the person named "Luna" XD | ||
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On August 24 2016 00:55 Kurumi wrote: @lunaticman I am stuck in Space unless I blow up the Moon. I would be so happy if Palmar gave Kurumi a role based on The Martian that forces him to grow space potatoes. | ||
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On August 24 2016 01:22 sicklucker wrote: want me to use my move now? Go ahead and pull Luna if you'd like. | ||
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![[image loading]](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/10/19/06/1019065ef557af6b8f5e948579b401fd.jpg) Oh god, not the Pidgey too?! Why? WHYYYYYYYYYYY? | ||
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On August 24 2016 01:33 Half the Sky wrote: Kita, I just checked your work, the third step of pulling disformation will NOT get him to safety, you need to pull him a THIRD time or fill the row 5. Luna's vacancy in row 5 will keep disformation in row 5 after a second push. Yeah you're right. On August 24 2016 01:33 Half the Sky wrote: We need to move the baddies up FIRST. It might still be best to pull disfo an extra time. Moving the baddies up first would require an extra push because up the empty slot disfo would have filled and we seem to be short on pushes not pulls. Thoughts? | ||
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On August 24 2016 01:38 Rels wrote: Pulling Luna now was super stupid because the number of pushes to get people in the red zone is much higher now No it's exactly the same number. We just pull disfo 1 extra time and it's fine. We have plenty of pulls to spare. | ||
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1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__Disformation__][__________] 4.[__________][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][__________] 6.[_Damdred_][_Lunaticman_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[___________][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][___________] 12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Chezinu_][__Kurumi__] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] Next three commands should be: Pull Disfo Pull Disfo Pull Disfo 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__________][__________] 4.[__________][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][__________] 6.[_Damdred_][_Lunaticman_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[__Disformation__][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][___________] 12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Chezinu_][__Kurumi__] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] | ||
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On August 24 2016 02:38 sicklucker wrote: who do i push? If you gotta go, push prpl. Damdred hold off. | ||
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Push Remaining (10) Tumblewood Lunaticman kitaman27 Stutters695 Damdred Shapelog GlowingBear iamperfection Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu Pull Remaining (14) Tumblewood Artanis[Xp] Rels Lunaticman kitaman27 Stutters695 Damdred Shapelog Disformation GlowingBear iamperfection Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu Half the Sky Current status 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[___________][__________] 4.[__________][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][__prplhz__] 6.[_Damdred_][_Lunaticman_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[_Chezinu_][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Tumblewood_] 12.[_Disformation_][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[___________][__Kurumi__] 14.[_Kitaman27_][___________] 15.[__________][__________] Need 1 volunteer to push Kita and 1 volunteer to push chezinu. | ||
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On August 24 2016 02:53 Tumblewood wrote: I am a liability to be afk till 1 hour before deadline, and maybe not paying attention at deadline :p. I will push kits. Okay sounds good. You can send that through now. Need 1 volunteer for push chezinu. | ||
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On August 24 2016 02:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote: and with read I mean skimmed through and saw pokes I liked. Mostly on Kita. I like people that poke kita. ![[image loading]](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/29/34/3e/29343eb9e7f2ffdbb82b32e871955246.jpg) | ||
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Lunaticman kitaman27 Stutters695 Damdred Shapelog GlowingBear iamperfection Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu Pull Remaining (14) Tumblewood Artanis[Xp] Rels Lunaticman kitaman27 Stutters695 Damdred Shapelog Disformation GlowingBear iamperfection Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu Half the Sky Current status 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[___________][__________] 4.[__________][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][__prplhz__] 6.[_Damdred_][_Lunaticman_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[_Chezinu_][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Tumblewood_] 12.[_Disformation_][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Kitaman27_][__Kurumi__] 14.[___________][___________] 15.[__________][__________] Next Action: 1 volunteer to push Chezinu | ||
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On August 24 2016 02:56 Rels wrote: Do I need to use my pull After chezinu is pushed, you cal pull damdred into chez's former slot. | ||
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Lunaticman kitaman27 Stutters695 Shapelog GlowingBear iamperfection Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu Pull Remaining (14) Tumblewood Artanis[Xp] Rels Lunaticman kitaman27 Stutters695 Damdred Shapelog Disformation GlowingBear iamperfection Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu Half the Sky Current status 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[___________][__________] 4.[_Chezinu_][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][__prplhz__] 6.[_Damdred_][_Lunaticman_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[__________][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Tumblewood_] 12.[_Disformation_][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Kitaman27_][__Kurumi__] 14.[___________][___________] 15.[__________][__________] Next Action: Rels pulls damdred | ||
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Basically letting town direct his powers when he could have used it to hunt townies as mafia. | ||
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On August 24 2016 03:32 disformation wrote: a bit paranoid rels wants us to use up our pushes. We could always burn Rels and see if he still thinks it's cool | ||
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Lunaticman kitaman27 Stutters695 Shapelog GlowingBear iamperfection Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu Pull Remaining (13) Tumblewood Artanis[Xp] Lunaticman kitaman27 Stutters695 Damdred Shapelog Disformation GlowingBear iamperfection Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu Half the Sky Current status: 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[___________][__________] 4.[_Chezinu_][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][__prplhz__] 6.[__________][_Lunaticman_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[_Damdred_][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Tumblewood_] 12.[_Disformation_][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Kitaman27_][__Kurumi__] 14.[___________][___________] 15.[__________][__________] Next Action: Volunteer to push GlowingBear Volunteer to push prplhz | ||
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On August 24 2016 03:40 Rels wrote: OK I partly agree with you. But you can't pull yourself, so if they're scum a teammate would have to do it for them, and claiming scum in the process. Actually that person is claiming scum regardless. Like even if GB is town, there is no benefit for a town to pull him out of the furnace. Yeah but suppose we have a mafia GB and chez. They are already dead so they have nothing to lose to use their actions to save each other at EoD :59 before we can react. Both survive the cycle from the current position. | ||
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On August 24 2016 03:44 Damdred wrote: Well I messed up the championship game and it's over now I can just focus here again. lol kinda happy to have your full attention to be honest :D | ||
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I for one welcome our new machine overlords. | ||
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kitaman27 Stutters695 Shapelog GlowingBear iamperfection Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu Pull Remaining (13) Tumblewood Artanis[Xp] Lunaticman kitaman27 Stutters695 Damdred Shapelog Disformation GlowingBear iamperfection Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu Half the Sky Current status: 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[___________][__________] 4.[_Chezinu_]_GlowingBear_] 5.[__________][__prplhz__] 6.[__________][_Lunaticman_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[_Damdred_][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Tumblewood_] 12.[_Disformation_][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Kitaman27_][__Kurumi__] 14.[___________][___________] 15.[__________][__________] Next Action: Volunteer to push prplhz | ||
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On August 24 2016 03:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: When did he do that? I honestly don't recall anything other than him shouting to people not to do stuff to me so he could do sth to me. I also got rbed that day. He also decided to shoot rels which I don't believe was what town sentiment wanted. Who would you have rather he shot instead of Rels that has claimed alien so far? I don't particularly care if Rels lives or dies. It's not like he has proven to be a pro-town asset so far. I guess he could have held his shot, but it probably won't go through anyways with the mass roleblock. If he were mafia, he could have just shot damdred or something for free and stayed hidden. | ||
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On August 24 2016 04:05 Lunaticman wrote: Someone should pull me maybe? We can move a borderline scummy person to 6 and then have you take their spot. That way we don't have to worry about the slot 14 shenanigans. | ||
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On August 24 2016 04:11 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman is reading my mind. What in the actual fuck. I used my alien telepathy. + Show Spoiler + jk. I'm human. Please don't shoot me SL. | ||
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Still waiting for someone to push prplhz before we can do anything else. I'll do it myself if nobody has done it by the time I return. We're kinda running out of reliable pushes. | ||
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I'm going to head home so I'll be back like 5 min before deadline, assuming traffic is reasonable. | ||
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Are we all set with actions? Speed reading what I missed. | ||
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All that effort. For that... RIP Art I take it we're in a 2 post night phase again? | ||
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-Artanis stole superbia's legs on day one using the ##help command. Superbia confirmed that it was a real power. It couldn't have been his thesis power since he wouldn't receive that until night 1. Not mentioned in role PM. -GlowingBear received the NSA for getting elected. He said it was part of his role when I questioned him since the Patriot Act was his election reward. Not mentioned in role PM. -prpl claimed two vig shots prior to dying. Not mentioned in role PM. I'll try to re-read the filters of everyone tonight. I have a hard time believing HTS, disfo, or koshi are mafia even after a bunch of town deaths, but I'll try re-evaluating to see if there was something I overlooked. There are a couple players who have gone the entire game without even calling any player scum or using their role in any way that helps town, so those players are probably the most likely mafia candidates at this point. | ||
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On August 25 2016 01:07 disformation wrote: So. Kita is pretty much 100% confirmed lying about the QT situation and has a very high chance of having been in a QT with trfel... lol disfo I'm not talking about trfel there and trfel was not in the QT with me. The quote there is in reference to HolyFlare. HolyFlare, GB, and I all share a secondary win condition to get ourselves elected. HF died on day one so I made a joke about whether or not we could get him elected as a dead man. Besides, it's obviously not the mafia QT because GB has already flipped. | ||
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Umm. Okay. | ||
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Was killing trump part of your secondary win condition or something? | ||
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On August 25 2016 07:58 sicklucker wrote: your town and probably kur is town? i donno tumbleweed 60% scum. kita might be scum not scum bro Thanks for not nuking me though. Much obliged. Not sure that damdred is mafia though so your shot is kinda lame. His is one of the filters that I haven't gotten through yet though so maybe not. But probably. | ||
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Serious though? I really don't want to spend the next 2-3 hours reading through filters if the game is already over. | ||
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Guess I'll just wait a bit to see if Palmar endgames us all. If not, I'll take a closer look at the larger post from you and disfo and make a larger post of my own. I've only skimmed them so far. | ||
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There was martial law yesterday and old people roleblock today... | ||
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On August 25 2016 08:15 Half the Sky wrote: Yeah I think I'm just going to step out until there's a bit more sanity in this thread. On August 24 2016 07:45 Koshi wrote: - I know HTS her role and that she killed Grack. The zombie army was hers as well. I can't believe she is mafia but hey... Is this part true HTS or was Koshi just spewing nonsense? | ||
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All the gods go a bit loco when faced with bankruptcy | ||
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And evil god koshi randomly killed disfo so at least we're fine on that front. -_- | ||
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1) The QT #2 is obviously not the mafia QT. It consisted of GB, Holyflare, and myself. 2) I claimed my role a couple days ago. I could transport people as my active and I have a passive was never used. I assumed winning the European chancellor would trigger it (democracy/fascism election choice), but there wasn't an obvious option there so I went with the lynch. 3) Yeah I pushed for killing GB/chez/prpl yesterday, but we were all on board with those. I admit my reads have been lousy so far, but it's the same for everyone else 4) As for why I swapped reads on Dandel, check out the response to HTS's banana claim (search for "igrok"). Dandel was one of the banana recipients. | ||
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On August 18 2016 07:59 ritoky wrote: [/center]Breaking News: Unpatriotic Man Being Chased Through Ikea On August 18th, Trfel learns he is a dead man. His delayed death has activated and mafia apparently had no way to save him. Anything he posts in the next day, he is fully aware will be analyzed once he flips. That's the definition of WIFOM. To say that he is trying to keep his options open isn't all that relevant when he is already dead. There is no consequence for him going after whoever he chooses because it's not like he could die a second time. In fact, any kp that are directed at him would actually be beneficial for mafia. There was one point that I do think could have some worth though and that was the argument that Trfel likes to keep his scum buddies out of the spotlight. If he knows he is a dead man, then taking the attention away from his buddies would be a good strategy. I'll have to check out if there are any specific points where Trfel had an easy opportunity to push a specific player who was under heat at the time, but choose to ignore them or go elsewhere. | ||
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Tumblewood -American, handsome, Michael Vick, needs money -Dodges kp -Kp via dogs Rels -Buzz lightyear? -Rich, handsome -Third party survivor claim -Roleblocker Lunaticman -1 shot vig, used on chez. Broken tank? -kgb poison, used on shape -Survived nuke in broken tank Kurumi -Space/blow up the moon -USSR/Gulag rescue -kp kitaman27 -Angela Merkel -Transport people to Europe -Receives tank if Europe turns to fascism Stutters695 -Rich, Africa, robs people (conditional fails against non-human?) -Weak role? Role is useless if claimed -Stole birth certificate Damdred -kp role, bounty hunter (Thought maybe Boba Fett, but he says female?) -Secondary objective to kill kurumi -Parity check between SL and stutters Fecalfeast -Ash Ketchum, Japan -Wants to catch pokemon -Caught pidgey, watcher role Koshi -Belgian -God -Day vig iamperfection -Third party survivor claim -Survived lynch and shot sicklucker -kp targetting aliens -Nuke Meapak_Ziphh -Immune to election -Wants bounty on himself Half the Sky -kp targetting players with bananas -Has zombie army (?) | ||
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First off, if you have a parity check role it almost always makes sense to use it on day one, but he clearly didn't use it until recently because I'm not seeing any sort of breadcrumb (or much mention of SL or stutters in his filter at all) for that matter. He wouldn't risk taking that info to his death. Secondly, I'm under the assumption that none of us could have performed actions during the mass roleblock from the robots. Was anyone able to get their action through during that time? Thirdly, we were all roleblocked again this cycle (I assume?). Plus it's still the planning phase, so the action phase wouldn't have resolved yet. Even if he managed to get it off, he didn't claim it immediately at the start of the cycle. The only reason to do so would be to try to question/interrogate SL and stutters to come to a conclusion, but he didn't bother to do that either. He just made the claim and disappeared. It seems like a desperate attempt from mafia now that he has been caught by several players to try to lead us to focus on someone else. | ||
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Whatever he is. He may be third party or mafia, but he is certainly anti-town. Could be a conversion mechanic like someone mentioned. I thought he might have like a Hilary Clinton role that had to kill the Donald before endgame or something, but he is European so that doesn't make sense. Town is in such a miserable position, that you don't focus on a secondary win condition by shooting disfo. I can't see a town Koshi doing this and trolling the game afterwards. It seems more like a player who has assumed they have already won and knows we can't do anything about it. | ||
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On August 25 2016 21:50 Lunaticman wrote: Can you prehaps kill Damdred/Kita/Stutters? Why me in particular? | ||
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On August 25 2016 23:32 Rels wrote: I'm not handsome anymore I'm old. I can't use my roleblock anymore 'cause my batteries are dead. I was never rich, I just have some trillons of toy money that is worthless. Remind me what actions you took the first two days? | ||
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On August 26 2016 00:02 Half the Sky wrote: (1) the read of Stutters for one, he did shit all other than a read on GB, so how does a lurky player as both alignments make it to your 99% don't lynch list You straight up directly replied to my list stating that you agreed with it when I posted it. In fact, when Rels brought up killing sutters, you even responded saying we should focus on other players. I shared the same opinion, there were other players I wanted lynched more and we weren't going to kill like 7 people that cycle. On August 26 2016 00:02 Half the Sky wrote:(2) I am sure I called you out on this before but if I didn't (or pull the relevant quote if you answered this and I missed it) Yeah I did answer this. #1660 On August 26 2016 00:02 Half the Sky wrote: [/b]Separately Stutters completely ignoring disformation's wall on Kita and responding to Kitaman the way he did indicates a Kita/Stutters team, even if loosely Pre-flip analysis like this is really dangerous and rarely end well. meh every game we play you start to get paranoid about me which is really frustrating lol. -_- It's just annoying when all the stuff you've brought up so far is speculative at best. It's all "If kita was mafia, this could make sense." Anyways, damdred and koshi are clearly superior options so we can revisit this later if need be. | ||
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On August 19 2016 23:36 Dandel Ion wrote: turns out she got shot* by player 14770601 she also got medic saved* by player 91757281 Was this you Rels? If 91757281 = Rels it might lead us to 14770601. | ||
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On August 26 2016 05:33 Half the Sky wrote: The "only" two Kitaman? What about Rels (from your end) whom you've been all over, all game? You realise we're dealing with a 5-player mafia team? Who are the rest? Yes, only two options for today's lynch. Frankly only one (damdred), but koshi would be next in line. Why would I want to lynch Rels today when I already explained why damdred's claim sounds like a bunch of BS? For the record, I still think Rels looks kinda bad, but not to the point where he passes the guy with a nonsense parity check or the guy the shoots our strongest townie and then trolls. On August 26 2016 05:33 Half the Sky wrote: You realise we're dealing with a 5-player mafia team? Who are the rest? Well no. I don't know what size mafia team we are dealing with, do you? I get what you are saying though. I don't have anyone I'm completely confident besides koshi/damdred right now. After today's lynch, I'll look towards who should be the next step. On August 26 2016 05:33 Half the Sky wrote: And what else about that Trfel filter? Where did it lead you? Haven't looked yet. Still at work. On August 26 2016 05:33 Half the Sky wrote: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then... Now you're just trying to aggravate me. -_- | ||
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On August 18 2016 00:54 GlowingBear wrote: QT 5: - "I'm kinda paranoid the third person who hasn't spoke yet could be mafia though if they're just watching." - "I don't get it at all" This is me. Just me and GB were in the QT all of phase one. We were informed there were three people and Holyflare didn't show up until phase two. I was also QT 2 from disfo's set of quicktopics. So why in the world has nobody else come forward to claim the other quicktopics? There can't possibly be 4 mafia quicktopics right? If you are town, then come forward. If each quicktopic has at least 2 players (possibly more) and there are 4 unclaimed quicktopics, that means there are a minimum of EIGHT PLAYERS who are in quicktopics, but haven't claimed. THAT'S ALMOST EVERYONE. Are you guys all just prioritizing your secondary win conditions or something? If you are, you're playing against your MAIN WIN CONDITION, which is really lame. On August 18 2016 00:54 GlowingBear wrote: QT 1: - "Welp Tumble Lost lol " - "Nah makes perfect sense." QT 2: - "WHAT? JUST BECAUSE I'M GERMAN, YOU ASSUME THAT I WANT TO OPEN UP A CONCENTRATION CAMP? YOU DISGUST ME." - "I already bid 20 million Euros on the tank and 10 million on the iPhone. I can increase those bids if needed." - "I'm going to Africa And I'm killing Onegu soon" QT 3: - "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it. For posting that banana picture." - "On second thought I am just going to babble some nonsense and go down with the ship." QT 4: - "Man, Palmar, we are going to be BFF's I like this place. I think I just going to keep on trying to run for USSR election, and we can just keep on talking and talking. You and me, forever.... Are you ready for your punishment Palmar?" - "A benevolent figure has gifted you an ice machine during your stay in the Gulag. Overusing it will cause you to get executed." | ||
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On August 26 2016 22:15 kitaman27 wrote: QT 3: - "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it. For posting that banana picture." - "On second thought I am just going to babble some nonsense and go down with the ship." The person giving out bananas seems so incredibly obvious to be mafia considering they haven't come forward and chose to target myself, dandel, and grack. If they were town, they wouldn't have anything to hide. Furthermore, a town player doesn't "go down with the ship". It is also incredibly obvious that I am not scum buddies with the banana vig because he is talking about me as if I'm not there. Now take a look at HTS's relation to the banana shot. On August 17 2016 23:42 Half the Sky wrote: This is where I am: Not entirely sure/will need to be sussed out a bit more: GlowingBear (some townie thought towards the end, though I am deliberately ignoring mechs here, some similar reads to mine) Dandel Ion (meh) Lunaticman (need to really see actual reads and not just surviving on mech discussion) Grackaroni (originally was good but not remembering too many impactful posts from him more recently, falling under the radar?) MZ (some of his reads I liked but more content would make me more confident on him) The "dear vig, please take out the trash" pile: Rels (pending catching up) Stutters695 Kurumi Shapelog Fecalfeast Possible scum Trfel (it's somewhere in my filter) sicklucker (where are the reads) Chezinu (all he does is go on about his position, someone please shoot him, clearly he's not helping town even compared to Star Wars where you got some semblance he was trying to) Scum reads prplhz Onegu (I make no distinction between anti-town third parties and scum) IAP I would say that vigis should target the bottom six players. On August 19 2016 09:19 Half the Sky wrote: Anyhow first things first, I'm claiming the shot on Grackaroni. I had one bullet only shoot people who held/were holding bananas (kills wouldn't register if I just shot anyone and they didn't have a banana) and there was zero to negative chance in hell I was shooting either of Kita or Dandel Ion. Look at how she justifies the banana shot. She shot grack because she didn't want to shoot townie kita or dandel. However, in her scum list from the previous day, SHE LISTED TWELVE DIFFERENT PLAYERS that should be shot ahead of grack. Then when she returns to the thread, SHE NEVER EVEN COMMENTS ON THE QUICKTOPICS FROM GB. A player with 16 pages of filter, is completely uninterested in the most powerful ability that town has received this game. She does know the of the quicktopic's existence though. She knows that I was given a banana and she was either tricked into possibly shooting me or she was lying about how her shot works in the first place. Yet now she does a complete 180 on me from the previous day saying that I'm her #1 scum suspect, while HARD DEFENDING THE GUY WHO JUST SHOT DISFO. I'll take a shot at the post game cred thing and say HTS is mafia. | ||
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Since we're all vanilla townies at this point, if a town medic protected her, they should come forward. Otherwise, it opens the possibility of a mafia medic. There wasn't any flips that could have been the medic so the medic must still be alive. | ||
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QT 3: - "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it. For posting that banana picture." On August 16 2016 21:59 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 16 2016 22:39 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 17 2016 00:58 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 17 2016 01:27 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 17 2016 20:12 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 19 2016 23:05 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 19 2016 23:07 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 20 2016 00:55 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 20 2016 03:33 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 20 2016 22:49 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 22 2016 06:59 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 23 2016 08:34 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 23 2016 22:07 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 23 2016 23:13 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 23 2016 23:30 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 24 2016 04:11 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 24 2016 07:36 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 25 2016 06:59 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 25 2016 06:59 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 25 2016 07:26 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 00:02 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 00:02 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 04:58 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 05:33 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman? On August 26 2016 05:36 Half the Sky wrote: kitaman On August 26 2016 05:41 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 19:21 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 20:50 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 21:02 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 21:20 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 21:25 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 21:42 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 21:43 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 19 2016 23:05 Half the Sky wrote: Second, at no point did I have access to any QT If the person in QT 3 isn't HTS, I'll eat my hat. She's lying. | ||
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On August 26 2016 23:00 Half the Sky wrote: If people were easily able to frame or impersonate or whatever, it's not hard to do the same for one word. That doesn't make me mafia. Try again. THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. THIS WAS DAY ONE. MAFIA DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE QT SPYING. YOU'RE LOSING YOUR GRIP | ||
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On August 19 2016 09:19 Half the Sky wrote: I'm back. Work has been a beast. Actually it's been pretty terrible but I digress. Anyhow first things first, I'm claiming the shot on Grackaroni. I bet this is what went down. HTS was busy at work and had no clue that her post about banans from the mafia qt was reveled by glowingbear. She claimed the shot on Grack and then realized that she accidently outed herself so she pretended to not know anything about where they came from. On August 20 2016 00:49 Half the Sky wrote: I suppose anyone with any information on where bananas are coming from would be greatly useful right now. Then I make my huge argument about how the banana vig is mafia, she brushes it under the rug and then never brings it up again. | ||
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On August 26 2016 23:02 Half the Sky wrote: Okay, that's a fair point in 4137, but fine and dandy but like I said I never had access to the QTs and I already explained the disconnect with my ignoring the bananas. It doesn't make me mafia. Do you think the banana giver is mafia? | ||
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On August 26 2016 23:07 Half the Sky wrote: The banana giver could mechanically be any alignment. But the banana giver is in the same quicktopic as the player want agrees to "go down with the ship", why would a town player say that? Furthermore, we've all been assuming that the banana qt was the mafia qt. You don't think a town player would want to clear that up? Especially now that we are all vanilla townies and the bananas are irrelevant to the game? The fact that you won't admit that QT #3 is clearly the mafia QT makes you look really scummy | ||
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On August 26 2016 23:13 Half the Sky wrote: The connection I'm missing is why people are absolutely concluding that the banana giver has to be associated with one alignment or another. On August 26 2016 23:10 kitaman27 wrote: But the banana giver is in the same quicktopic as the player want agrees to "go down with the ship", why would a town player say that? Furthermore, we've all been assuming that the banana qt was the mafia qt. You don't think a town player would want to clear that up? Especially now that we are all vanilla townies and the bananas are irrelevant to the game? The fact that you won't admit that QT #3 is clearly the mafia QT makes you look really scummy | ||
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On August 26 2016 23:17 Half the Sky wrote: Like SL you are saying they are confirmed now. But at the beginning if you are masoned and you're confirmed town you'd know that. You can't ignore the possibility as to the fact also that in these types of games (Carol is one example I can think of) where QTs are not necessarily created at the beginning, by default those qts are unconfirmed I think. So Palmar could have started with 3 QTs and depending on when additional QTs were created or if players had those types of powers, you can still get 5 QTs with all town. That's partially why I'm disregarding that. No, you're misdirecting. You're using mechanics to excuse yourself from analyzing the content. On August 18 2016 00:54 GlowingBear wrote: - "On second thought I am just going to babble some nonsense and go down with the ship." Why would a townie every say this? If you can't recognize this is so incredibly mafia sounding, then I don't know what to say. Furthermore, we know the banana giver is still alive. Why would a town banana giver not claim to put a stop to this mess? | ||
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Koshi mentioned that she controls the zombie army, but HTS never even mentioned it until I asked her directly a full day later. She replied that Koshi was lying about that, but she never felt it was important to point out the lie? And now after Koshi has shot disfo, she wants to side with him?! This is so obvious guys | ||
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On August 26 2016 23:25 Half the Sky wrote: I'm just going to come out and say it, even at the risk of a modkill. Palmar might be giving out the bananas either upon a trigger, or at random. How do I know this? Remember last cycle when I corrected Palmar on the votecount? I got a banana. And during that cycle, everyone's stuff was disabled. I realise that doesn't explain the "going down with the ship" comment but I don't see how you can eliminate that possibility it could have come from a townie who was about to get lynched/vigged/nuked/whatever. You all can choose not to believe the bolded and that's fine. And Kita, you are misdirecting using these QTs from some of the other mafia, I know what you're up to here. I really have nothing to hide. BAHAHA PALMAR IS GIVING OUT THE BANANAS? That's why Palmar is talking in the QT about handing them out? That's why Palmar is saying how he is going to go down with the ship and get lynched? Cmon now | ||
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Unlike someone else.... QT 3: - "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it. For posting that banana picture." On August 16 2016 21:59 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 16 2016 22:39 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 17 2016 00:58 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 17 2016 01:27 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 17 2016 20:12 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 19 2016 23:05 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 19 2016 23:07 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 20 2016 00:55 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 20 2016 03:33 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 20 2016 22:49 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 22 2016 06:59 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 23 2016 08:34 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 23 2016 22:07 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 23 2016 23:13 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 23 2016 23:30 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 24 2016 04:11 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 24 2016 07:36 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 25 2016 06:59 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 25 2016 06:59 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 25 2016 07:26 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 00:02 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 00:02 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 04:58 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 05:33 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman? On August 26 2016 05:36 Half the Sky wrote: kitaman On August 26 2016 05:41 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 19:21 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 20:50 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 21:02 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 21:20 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 21:25 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 21:42 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 21:43 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman | ||
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On August 26 2016 23:28 sicklucker wrote: I think its really stupid to lynch outside of hts/kita. let them battle it out its the best chance of me getting a good read rather then lynching lurkers and lynch bait. I can just shoot dandred and if we hit on hts/kita its 2 mafia almost everytime I'm more than happy to take the 1 for 1 trade. I think the evidence shows it's more than obvious that she lying, but if I have to die first to flip her after, then so be it. | ||
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On August 17 2016 01:44 Half the Sky wrote: Policy lynch category (if we had lynches but you get the idea) Kurumi Fecalfeast MZ (Not dead, but has a green check) Shapelog Scumlean IAP Probable scum Artanis Onegu GlowingBear Since HTS likes to keep bringing up my reads flipping town, lets take a look at hers. On August 20 2016 08:23 Half the Sky wrote: Trfel isn't a bad idea. On August 21 2016 06:54 Half the Sky wrote: second kp should go on Trfel or prplhz. I can see the reasoning for Shape though. I'd probably kp prplhz, but that's just me. She also calls for a kp to be wated on Trfel when he is already about to die. On August 22 2016 21:01 Half the Sky wrote: (1) IF YOU ARE TOWN AND NOT LOCATED IN SPACE, YOU NEED TO VOTE FOR KOSHI. (2) IF YOU ARE TOWN AND LOCATED IN SPACE, FAILURE TO DO EITHER, you are claiming scum. Fixed. <3 She guaranteed that Koshi would get elected on day three. On August 23 2016 07:48 Half the Sky wrote: I also agree with your list. On August 23 2016 23:13 Half the Sky wrote: Damdred, here's the other question - we're making sure everyone is on board with Kitaman's kill list of prplhz/GB/Chez. Finally she attacks me for going after all the afk townies, saying that it must make me mafia. Well guess who 100% agreed with my list at the time? HTS. In fact, she made sure everyone was on board with my plan, yet now that they flipped town, she uses it as an excuse to show that I'm mafia, while she acts if she played no part in it. | ||
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1) Her scum reads this game are all on townies. She repeats multiple times that I'm mafia because of this, when there are several instances of her replying to my list posts saying that they are good. 2) She chose to shoot grack when she had 8 other players that she said was a better shot. 3) She refers to me as kitaman all the time, which matches the unclaimed banana giver. 4) She refuses to admit that QT #3 is the mafia qt. She comes up with a bunch of nonsense about it being 5 town qts or that Palmar is the banana giver to avoid the subject 5) She tried to get trfel lynched or shot on day two to waste a kp 6) She pushed incredibly hard to get koshi elected, who proceeded to shoot disfo. Now she continues to side with him, when he is clearly anti-town | ||
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There are 13 players remaining: Tumblewood Rels Lunaticman Kurumi kitaman27 Stutters695 Damdred Fecalfeast Koshi iamperfection sicklucker Meapak_Ziphh Half the Sky If mafia/survivors has 7 members remaining, they control the vote with 7/13. If mafia/survivors has 6 members remaining, then a single town player messing up their vote means they win. That is why it is so incredibly important that town takes a stand here. Either vote me or vote HTS. Throwing your vote away on a side wagon means we lose automatically. | ||
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On August 26 2016 05:43 Kurumi wrote: ##vote Koshi Kurumi, please please please don't throw your vote away here. You gotta choose between HTS and myself. Any player that is voting elsewhere essentially throws away the game for free. | ||
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On August 27 2016 00:06 sicklucker wrote: But there is also another conflicting scenario and I think this is just as likely if not more. QT 3: - "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it. For posting that banana picture." - "On second thought I am just going to babble some nonsense and go down with the ship." Kita if mafia is giving you the banana why is it up for you to decide its power? Is it perhaps because you are mafia with them? gg? Dandel who also received the banana confirmed that nothing happened. Furthermore, if I'm in QT 3 it would be phrased as "oh and I gave you a banana kitaman. It's mostly up to your imagination what you do with it." | ||
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On August 27 2016 00:11 sicklucker wrote: what was that thing about posting pictures of bananas leading to peoples deaths? was that nothing The three people that posted banana pictures were given bananas. HTS claimed that she could only shoot banana holders, which led to grack's death. She admitted that we could have passed the banana to any player in the game and use it to kill her #1 scum read, but for whatever reason she decided to shoot grack instead who was #8. | ||
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On August 27 2016 00:10 sicklucker wrote: who do you think could have been the one posting going down with the ship? who do you think was in danger in that time of the game that could be mafia? Was it trefel? dont you think it would be the same person who posted the banana post? Maybe it was Trfel? I'm not sure. Seems like it would be one of the afk people. | ||
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On August 27 2016 00:13 Lunaticman wrote: This is confusing, why don't we just kill one of the third party people so they can't side with the mafia in either case? I just don't understand how some of the people are playing and I don't have that much time today. Koshi why did you kill disinformation? NO NO NO NO NO If we kill a third party today, then mafia shoot a bunch of townies and they almost certainly have control of the lynch the next day. NO NO NO NO NO | ||
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On August 27 2016 00:18 Half the Sky wrote: I'm back but only briefly. Here's the bigger question, why is Kita overemphasising the mechanics. The mechs can be WIFOMed by both alignments. I know you aren't reading filters but that is what mafia Kita is depending on. You're the one that was overemphasising the mechanics. You were saying that there might not be a mafia QT. You were saying that Palmar might be handing out the bananas. While ignoring the actual content of the quicktopics. 1) We know the first set of QTs were not staged because mafia didn't know about the power yet 2) We know the banana vig has not claimed when there is no reason for a townie not to 3) You refused to answer why a town player would talk about going down with the ship | ||
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At what point did you gain access to your QT? The exact start of day 2? Which QT were you from the ones disfo posted? | ||
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On August 27 2016 00:28 Half the Sky wrote: Posting the QT would clear me actually.  On August 27 2016 00:28 Lunaticman wrote: But the crux is I have no idea if HtS really is town, I just masoned her and removed all her abilities but none of her items. UMM............!!!!!!!!! | ||
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On August 27 2016 00:28 sicklucker wrote: if hts has the bananas shes 100% mafia... how do you know this? she said 2 hours ago she does not have the bananas I do not have my banana for the record. It disappeared, just like dandels did. | ||
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On August 27 2016 00:26 Half the Sky wrote: Luna could choose a player of his liking and mason with them. It will also explain the (unexplained) townreads I've had on him too. On August 26 2016 04:58 Half the Sky wrote: There were and still are at least two other if not three other mafia that are just coasting right now. It could be any in the line of Kurumi, Luna, Fecalfeast, Stutters or Kitaman as I suspect is the active mafia. Lies, lies, and more lies. | ||
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On August 27 2016 00:31 Lunaticman wrote: Listen can I post the QT, please answer me. Even if you can't, does it confirm HTS as town like she is saying or is she making that part up? | ||
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On August 27 2016 00:28 Half the Sky wrote: Posting the QT would clear me actually. On August 27 2016 00:28 Lunaticman wrote: But the crux is I have no idea if HtS really is town Luna, could you explain this? Why is she saying that the QT would confirm her as town, but you're saying that you don't know. | ||
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On August 27 2016 00:39 Half the Sky wrote: The QT is unconfirmed by default because Luna picked me. My townreads on him were my reads based on our discussion in the QT, which none of you can see. Also in addition to what I started off on him. I also made some deductions based on the conditions of the QT that we had to be same alignment which I should be able to state. lol this reminds me just of the Hearthstone game that I hosted with Holyflare manipulating ritoky into trusting him the whole game via a mason qt The difference between you and I: 1) I'm in a QT with GB and straight up push for his lynch because I'm really sure he is mafia, rather than manipulating him to do my bidding 2) You're in a QT with Luna, town read him a bunch to get him to trust you, and then try to confirm yourself as town in response. | ||
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On August 27 2016 00:42 Half the Sky wrote: The QT would "clear" me against the absurd point you're bringing up about the bananas. The condition of the QT is that I have to ensure that Lunaticman survives until end game. I used that opportunity to get the best read on him regardless. My deduction is that if Luna was mafia, then helping him with this objective would be against my wincon. It is a points based objective. ALL POINTS BASED OBJECTIVES ARE SECONDARY WIN CONDITIONS. THEY HAVE NOTHING TO WITH YOU BEING YOUR PRIMARY OBJECTIVE. LOOK AT HOW HTS IS TRYING TO WEASEL INTO A CONFIRMED TOWN READ BY TWISTING THE FACTS | ||
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On August 27 2016 00:53 sicklucker wrote: wait so wtf. hts is not town or mafia acording to this qt shes third party with lunatic man or whatever alignment he is lul. this has taken a twist for the worse This quicktopic in no way makes her third party. She has a secondary objective to help luna survive. Secondary objectives are 100% separate from primary objectives. | ||
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On August 27 2016 01:01 sicklucker wrote: but kita just vanished at this important time. obvious tilt Naw I'm here. Was reading the quicktopic. | ||
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Luna masoning HTS gave her a secondary win condition. It did not change her alignment. She can be a mafia player with a secondary win condition or she can be town with a secondary win condition. The fact remains that she is trying to manipulate us into thinking that a secondary win condition means she is town. It doesn't. I've said this 1000 times now, but HTS is clearly in QT 3 as the banana giver. She has lied time and time again. She needs to be lynched this game. For the inactive players who have given up on this game, please take 3 minutes to read HTS's approach to QT 3 from post number #4128 to #4166 in her filter. That's all I ask. It's so obvious that she is mafia from those that it makes me want to pull my hair out. | ||
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The QT means absolutely nothing. Pleeeeease. | ||
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On August 27 2016 03:00 iamperfection wrote: You mean the QT where the co host confirms there is a 3p recruiter of some kind. Ya I'm sure it means nothing. No I mean it says nothing about HTS's alignment. She gained a secondary win condition with luna. But that doesn't mean she isn't mafia. Her alignment didn't change. | ||
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On August 27 2016 03:25 sicklucker wrote: i mean im here... I dont want to be. I think its quite obvious your mafia tho. sorry you played well Why though? It's incredibly obvious that QT 3 is mafia. It's incredibly obvious that I'm not part of QT 3. It's incredibly obvoius that HTS is part of QT 3. But whatever. | ||
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On August 27 2016 03:24 Kurumi wrote: I'm not putting any effort with two maybe modkills in the air. The game might very well be over. What a cop out. | ||
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On August 27 2016 04:14 sicklucker wrote: I agree qt is mafia. why the fuck would mafia give a banana that the person who receives it decides on the power? you could have been were in that qt too. I dont know depending on who gets lynched I might shoot on the other side. but it seemed like when that qt posted you stopped trying and afked which I read as very angry mafia Nope, I'm around. The qt was posted at like :49, I noticed it like 3 minutes later, started reading it, and then posted at :02 when I was finished reading through. | ||
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On August 27 2016 04:17 kitaman27 wrote: Nope, I'm around. The qt was posted at like :49, I noticed it like 3 minutes later, started reading it, and then posted at :02 when I was finished reading through. It's not like I was afk for the next 4 hours. You're talking about a matter of a few minutes. | ||
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On August 27 2016 04:14 sicklucker wrote: I agree qt is mafia. why the fuck would mafia give a banana that the person who receives it decides on the power? Dandel already confirmed that the banana did nothing. HTS confirmed that the banana did nothing. I confirmed the banana did nothing. All three of us can't be lying together. Plus it's clear that I'm not part of that QT. The person says that they are giving it to kitaman and "he can use his imagination". If I was there, they would say "you can use your imagination". Furthermore, look at how HTS tried to pretend QT3 wasn't the mafia QT while I pushed so hard to say it is. | ||
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On August 27 2016 04:21 sicklucker wrote: was like an hour tho... with 1 post I went like 10 minutes without a post. Then I posted three times during the 12:00 hour. And since then everyone has left the thread. I've tried to interact with iamp and kurumi, but they are a bunch of trolls who ignore me. On August 27 2016 01:02 kitaman27 wrote: This quicktopic in no way makes her third party. She has a secondary objective to help luna survive. Secondary objectives are 100% separate from primary objectives. On August 27 2016 01:02 kitaman27 wrote: Naw I'm here. Was reading the quicktopic. On August 27 2016 01:41 kitaman27 wrote: The facts are still the facts. Don't let the mason quicktopic distract us from what's going down here. Luna masoning HTS gave her a secondary win condition. It did not change her alignment. She can be a mafia player with a secondary win condition or she can be town with a secondary win condition. The fact remains that she is trying to manipulate us into thinking that a secondary win condition means she is town. It doesn't. I've said this 1000 times now, but HTS is clearly in QT 3 as the banana giver. She has lied time and time again. She needs to be lynched this game. For the inactive players who have given up on this game, please take 3 minutes to read HTS's approach to QT 3 from post number #4128 to #4166 in her filter. That's all I ask. It's so obvious that she is mafia from those that it makes me want to pull my hair out. | ||
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On August 27 2016 04:20 sicklucker wrote: my theory is you choose to kill people with that banana picture somehow? or use it yo a mafia advantage is there any evidence of this? GB told me to post the banana picture in the thread. First I responded with a troll apple post because I didn't know if he would blow me up or something. On August 17 2016 05:42 kitaman27 wrote: Oh god I nearly just choked on an apple. Carry on. Then I made the thanks obama banana post a little bit later. On August 22 2016 22:07 kitaman27 wrote: GB was actually the person who told me to post the banana in the thread to confirm that I was really kita. I even said this in the thread on day 3. GB was still alive so he could have pointed it out that it wasn't true. If I'm allowed to post my QT I'll even show you. | ||
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On August 27 2016 04:20 sicklucker wrote: my theory is you choose to kill people with that banana picture somehow? or use it yo a mafia advantage is there any evidence of this? Furthermore, we KNOW Hts has that power. She shot grack.......over the 8 other people she was calling mafia. | ||
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On August 27 2016 04:34 sicklucker wrote: well I cant think of any explanation why mafia would give you a banana if its "up to you what it does" thats their words since we both agree its the mafia qt. any explanation? I don't know. On August 18 2016 02:47 kitaman27 wrote: I have no item description for what the banana does. I assume it means something to a certain role maybe? Anyone need it? If not, I'll probably just pass it on to someone that seems townie. I was going to try to "Dust for fingerprints" to see if that was an acceptable option. On August 18 2016 02:53 kitaman27 wrote: Dust for fingerprints was my only suggestion so far. Haven't heard back. I tried to "Dust for fingerprints", but I never got anything back from it. Dandel tried to eat it and nothing happened. Grack did nothing with it HTS shot grack with it. | ||
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On August 27 2016 04:36 sicklucker wrote: whens deadline 1 hour and a half? I need to change my shot depending on who gets lynched here 2 hours 22 minutes We really need to consolidate between myself and HTS though. Like I said earlier, if a single townie messes up we probably lose. | ||
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On August 27 2016 04:40 sicklucker wrote: probably not if dandreds third party but maybe. as long as we dont lose a town we can probably survive the day if a third party is lynched and i shot mafia 13 players left. Lets assume 3 third party, 4 mafia, and 6 town. Those numbers could be off by 1 if like one of the third party is a troll town or something. Say we lynch a third party, you shoot mafia, and lets say mafia can shoot 2 town tonight. I'm not sure how their killing mechanics work, but in a themed game like this, we can probably expect 1-3 of their shots. That leaves 2 third party, 3 mafia, and 4 town. We really need to lynch mafia today AND have your shot hit mafia for us to not be outnumbered tomorrow. Third party care less about who wins so town loses control of the lynch if we mess up today. | ||
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On August 27 2016 04:49 sicklucker wrote: oh god like this is too town. who makes a when I die post (she would flip mafia) in a side qt that might never be revealed. like no way this is mafia. That's WIFOM though. A mafia HTS is trying to look town to luna to manipulate her so she posts something that looks townie to earn herself free cred. Plus, it helps set up the mislynch for me today. There was martial law going on yesterday so it was impossible for her to die at night. And now we're here today where she can suddenly push a lynch on me and win the game. | ||
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On August 27 2016 04:51 sicklucker wrote: kita do you not see any worlds where you are both town? Ehh it's possible I guess, but it seems really, really unlikely to me. Like she called me "kitaman" 32 different times in the thread this game. The banana giver called me "kitaman". That's totally her. | ||
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On August 27 2016 04:59 Tumblewood wrote: I'm here did I miss anything important If you can, read from page 206. Anything related to the QT #3 mafia quicktopic. Lynch is between her and me this cycle, so don't throw away your vote elsewhere. | ||
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On August 27 2016 05:08 Tumblewood wrote: you are ridiculously tunneled Doesn't mean I'm not right. Do you disagree that QT #3 is the mafia QT? Did you read how she said that all the QTs are town, that maybe Palmar was giving out bananas, and refused to explain why a town player would want to "go down with the ship"? | ||
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On August 27 2016 05:12 Half the Sky wrote: I'm back. And no but it doesn't mean I won't. As far as I'm concerned the lynch is between you and Rels. And town need to consolidate between you and Rels. Oh rels now? Afraid to take the 1:1 trade with me? lol | ||
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On August 27 2016 05:39 Rels wrote: From HTS in the QT. WTF are you talking about wut | ||
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On August 27 2016 05:36 sicklucker wrote: no shes not tho the mod went out of his way to say "same alignment" just really fucking likely but not just for this one post but its part of it This 1000% HTS was trying to confirm herself as town to luna by purposely phrasing the question that way. She knows that Palmar is never going to modconfirm her as town, but if Palmar responds to the question, it makes Luna think that she is. | ||
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There is an hour less and all townies need to be on the same player or we straight up lose. | ||
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On August 27 2016 06:00 sicklucker wrote: na.... kitas def mafia trust me I was interacting with them all day. I will shoot kita if hes not lynched. its better we target guys with potential kp Nope I'm really not. Plus I'm German, not alien. I got elected as the leader of Europe lol. But if you wanna throw the game away and let HTS waste your shot, then go for it. | ||
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HF died day one to Skynx's silly rng shot so that fell apart real fast. Kinda a shame. We could had it. | ||
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Will be half here, half not for the next 40 minutes. Hopefully the game isn't over in the next hour. Well maybe if it is, that's for the best XD | ||
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On August 25 2016 23:02 kitaman27 wrote: kitaman27 -Angela Merkel -Transport people to Europe -Receives tank if Europe turns to fascism Here was where i claimed my role | ||
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Damdred is almost certainly mafia. No need for theatrics. | ||
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I started looking through them and to my horror found this one: ![[image loading]](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51nP6EDfu0L._SX323_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) It's one thing to go after me, but now you're going after my family too? You've taken this too far. | ||
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Thanks to hosts for hosting! | ||
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QT 3: - "oh and I gave kitaman a banana. It's mostly up to his imagination what he does with it. For posting that banana picture." On August 16 2016 21:59 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 16 2016 22:39 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 17 2016 00:58 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 17 2016 01:27 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 17 2016 20:12 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 19 2016 23:05 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 19 2016 23:07 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 20 2016 00:55 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 20 2016 03:33 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 20 2016 22:49 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 22 2016 06:59 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 23 2016 08:34 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 23 2016 22:07 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 23 2016 23:13 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 23 2016 23:30 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 24 2016 04:11 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 24 2016 07:36 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 25 2016 06:59 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 25 2016 06:59 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 25 2016 07:26 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 00:02 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 00:02 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 04:58 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 05:33 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman? On August 26 2016 05:36 Half the Sky wrote: kitaman On August 26 2016 05:41 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 19:21 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 20:50 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 21:02 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 21:20 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 21:25 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 21:42 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman On August 26 2016 21:43 Half the Sky wrote: Kitaman Sorry HTS :D | ||
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On August 27 2016 07:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Kita I'm so salty you were scum Same. | ||
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On August 23 2016 09:19 Tumblewood wrote: 1.[__________][___________] 2.[_GlowingBear_][__________] 3.[_iamperfection_][_Chezinu_] 4.[__prplhz__][__Kurumi__] 5.[__________][__________] 6.[__________][__________] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[_Lunaticman_][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_Damdred_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Disformation w/item_] 12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[__________][__________] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] we have 1 PoP of buffer room for every change. woohoo! takes 8 pushes and 4 pulls This game could have ended so much differently if we stuck with Tumble's original plan on day three. I was really terrified that koshi was gone, we were about to double lynch two mafia, and it would be just a terrible looking me and damdred left -_- | ||
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On August 27 2016 07:59 Half the Sky wrote: LOL you played to your wincon, like I said no hard feelings. I'm just glad you got your just dues in the form of Revenge of the Artanis. The funny thing is that we assumed you were a serial killer or something all game because of the host qt. Good shot by SL tho, despite the outcome. | ||
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On August 27 2016 08:06 Palmar wrote: I don't know, I had not been yet put in a position where I had to make that up. Was it actually possible for Europe to turn to democracy or facism, or was I always a vanilla role? | ||
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On August 27 2016 20:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I think Kita really fell through when he was still highly suspicious of hats after the qt got posted. That just makes her town all day erryday, but it didn't really matter anymore at that point. Yeah damdred held the kp for us and I was vanilla so I was kinda trying to get lynched in his place, but town was too afk to lynch me. -_- | ||
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