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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 17 2016 03:23 GMT
#1461
We should probably use the Fox News power on Onegu.

It really doesn't make sense for Palmar to go through listing a whole bunch of currencies and then have the Chinese guy end up using Euros or something dumb like that, so he is obviously lying on that front. His nuke on super was crazy anti-town. I don't see that as a town yolo type of deal based on his filter. It seems more likely that he figured he's the type of player that can get away with doing something wacky because it's just onegu being onegu. Back in one of the WaW mafia games, I essentially did something similar, claiming a silly 3rd party Pacifist Ocean role and launched like 5 nukes at random people. I tend to think that the nuke had to be fired in the thread so maybe the mafia figured they might as well use it early because if they wait too long then town is essentially going to take control of the kp if onegu ever claims it.

The results of the election seem really underwhelming. Like we really only got the Fox News thing out of it and it doesn't even sound like GB knew what he was giving us. Basically when you make a theme game with multiple election events, you design it so both town or mafia is able to reward themselves for winning, which sounds really similar to the peace/chaos thing. I found it townie that he revealed his chaos choice, but at the same time he probably had no idea how Palmar would report his choice of chaos in the BBC news so he probably figured there was less risk if he shared it, rather than getting caught with his pants down.

Another thing, in what world is it okay that Chez gets elected, uses a power, and then continues on with absolutely no explanation. As town, we're letting these guys skate by way too easily here. We really shouldn't be giving them a free pass considering this game has no lynch and unless we're relying on a couple of town vig roles to carry the game, we're going nowhere.

My super short mafia list would be something like onegu, GB, Chez, Artanis, Luna, prpl, iamp but I have no idea how we're supposed to deal with them at this point.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 17 2016 03:38 GMT
#1462
On August 17 2016 01:10 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 00:57 Superbia wrote:
On August 17 2016 00:55 Onegu wrote:
On August 16 2016 19:49 Koshi wrote:
@Onegu (please do not lie to any of these questions or you are 100% anti town and will be killed)

1) Did you fire the nuke?
2) Why? You should be anti usa and you kill ussr? Really. Type many words about why you nuke Superbia so soon.
3) Do you have more nukes?
4) Are you willing to keep 1 of your nukes for the American President if he does anything anti town. We are going to organize a voting system for future days.
5) Are you willing to only use all your remaining nukes by democratic vote only?



Yes

He was pro american

Yes

I cannot fire at USA

Again cannot fire at usa.




Why shoot town over mafia?




YOU ARENT FUCKING CONFIRMED TOWN.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 17 2016 03:57 GMT
#1463
On August 17 2016 04:00 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 03:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On August 16 2016 19:59 disformation wrote:
So you are saying there is a hidden mastermind taking advantage of two ppl firing nukes in thread and neither oneg nor art are nuking Superbia?

inb4 someone is kim sitting in north korea laughing his ass off.

also agreeing a lot with koshi.

This is a great post yo

How is that a great post?

If onegu is not the one nuking Super he should say right now lol...



My nuke
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 17 2016 04:01 GMT
#1464
On August 17 2016 04:42 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 04:41 Onegu wrote:
On August 16 2016 23:16 Vivax wrote:
On August 16 2016 23:10 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 16 2016 23:02 Vivax wrote:
Your plan is pointless, everyone can lie about their nationality, we will never discover the motivations for why someone would lie until we see flips from either them or the presidents.


I have no reason to lie about my nationality, do you? We essentially announce ahead of time (right now) that anyone who lies about their vote will be assumed mafia. That even discourages people with alternate win conditions or whatever from lying because they know they will be punished for lying in the thread.

Then once we get the results, we can learn if someone lied about their vote. It doesn't matter if the president that gets elected is town or mafia because only mafia would have the motivation to say they are supporting one candidate and then secretly voting another.

Plus it makes people have to take a stance in the thread during a cycle where we don't get the information from a lynch. The vote is really the only alignment indicative info we have on day one, aside from the random nuke or something. Sure, player A can call player B scum, but without a lynch or anything to enforce it, it is pretty empty.


We already decided that 1gu lied? Seems like we don't need plans for people to do scummy shit, but gl getting 27 people to do what you want. I already have a hard time getting my posts read even by you when I reply to one of your posts.



Where and how did I lie.

I havent lied at all...


Your excellent reason as to shoot me over others will surely be posted in the next 5 minutes.


Lol he thinks he can force me to do stuff. Cute.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 17 2016 04:13 GMT
#1465
On August 17 2016 07:51 Superbia wrote:
So on one hand I live and on the other I'm not elected the leader. What?



Guessing day isnt over just elections.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 17 2016 04:17 GMT
#1466
On August 17 2016 09:41 Chezinu wrote:
ROLL CALL for all foreigners to enroll in the immigration program!

How does one sign up?

##Apply for USSR PASSPORT

Without special permissions it may be hard to enter the USSR, the soon to be the great expanding empire. With refugees facing the harsh realities of Europe and the US citizens suffering the woes of capitalism with a great purge. We will like to welcome all fleeing migrates with of course reasonable restrictions. We must perform the appropriate background checks. If you are seen in the Great USSR without your papers, it may not go well with you. So apply today! And remember PAPERS PLEASE!



##Apply for USSR PASSPORT
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 17 2016 04:18 GMT
#1467
Hi guys

Who gave kita a banana?
I'm adorable.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 17 2016 04:28 GMT
#1468
On August 17 2016 12:23 kitaman27 wrote:
We should probably use the Fox News power on Onegu.

It really doesn't make sense for Palmar to go through listing a whole bunch of currencies and then have the Chinese guy end up using Euros or something dumb like that, so he is obviously lying on that front. His nuke on super was crazy anti-town. I don't see that as a town yolo type of deal based on his filter. It seems more likely that he figured he's the type of player that can get away with doing something wacky because it's just onegu being onegu. Back in one of the WaW mafia games, I essentially did something similar, claiming a silly 3rd party Pacifist Ocean role and launched like 5 nukes at random people. I tend to think that the nuke had to be fired in the thread so maybe the mafia figured they might as well use it early because if they wait too long then town is essentially going to take control of the kp if onegu ever claims it.

The results of the election seem really underwhelming. Like we really only got the Fox News thing out of it and it doesn't even sound like GB knew what he was giving us. Basically when you make a theme game with multiple election events, you design it so both town or mafia is able to reward themselves for winning, which sounds really similar to the peace/chaos thing. I found it townie that he revealed his chaos choice, but at the same time he probably had no idea how Palmar would report his choice of chaos in the BBC news so he probably figured there was less risk if he shared it, rather than getting caught with his pants down.

Another thing, in what world is it okay that Chez gets elected, uses a power, and then continues on with absolutely no explanation. As town, we're letting these guys skate by way too easily here. We really shouldn't be giving them a free pass considering this game has no lynch and unless we're relying on a couple of town vig roles to carry the game, we're going nowhere.

My super short mafia list would be something like onegu, GB, Chez, Artanis, Luna, prpl, iamp but I have no idea how we're supposed to deal with them at this point.



How am I lying? I never said I use Euros. It has already been confirmed there are other people that arent american or russian.

I am communist. I want America to become communist. My main bonus objective is that. But it also gives me currency when that happens due to be being communist and owning their debt. Me having monies helps town I believe as I can then buy things. Nuking Sub goes toward that goal. And why people think he is uber town anyway I dont get.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 17 2016 04:28 GMT
#1469
On August 17 2016 13:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Hi guys

Who gave kita a banana?



Can you make america communist?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 17 2016 04:35 GMT
#1470
On August 17 2016 13:28 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 13:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Hi guys

Who gave kita a banana?



Can you make america communist?


No
I'm adorable.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 17 2016 05:21 GMT
#1471
On August 17 2016 11:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 20:19 Lunaticman wrote:
Traits:
Male/Female: Have no idea what this is for

Currency:
1 Gold = 500,000 Dollars
1 Galactic Credit = 10000 Dollars
1 Ruble = 0.01 Dollars
1 Euro = 1 Dollar
1 GBP = 0.1 Dollars
1 Ear = 10,000,000 Dollars


Abilities:
Tanks?!!? (HolyFlare)
Nukes?!!? (Artanis, HolyFlare, Onegu)
Phones!!? (Artanis)
Building Spaceship!?! (Superbia)
Shooting!!? (Dandel Ion)
Detecting who shoot nuke (Artanis)

Offices:
Running for President of USA (Grackaroni, Glowingbear, Tumblewood, Disformation, HolyFlare)
Running for President of Soviet (Chezinu, Superbia)

Can form Super Pac by spending money.

Power roles:
President of USA
President of Soviet
Superman

Possible agendas:
Gather money for abilities
Unitying USA/Soviet

Events:
Nuke has been launched will hit at end of day.
Someone tried to infiltrate Soviet political system.


Countries/Locations:
USA
Soviet
Space
Others?!?


Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 20:48 Lunaticman wrote:
Update 2: Added First day post, also possible presidents have nukes.

Traits:
Male/Female: Have no idea what this is for

Currency:
1 Gold = 500,000 Dollars
1 Galactic Credit = 10000 Dollars
1 Ruble = 0.01 Dollars
1 Euro = 1 Dollar
1 GBP = 0.1 Dollars
1 Ear = 10,000,000 Dollars

Countries/Locations:
USA
England
Soviet
Space
Others?!?

Abilities:
Tanks?!!? (HolyFlare)
Nukes?!!? (Artanis, HolyFlare, Onegu)
Building Spaceship!?! (Superbia)
Shooting!!? (Dandel Ion)
Detecting who shoot nuke (Artanis)
Possible that kills that are performed in USA are punishable

Offices:
Running for President of USA (Grackaroni, Glowingbear, Tumblewood, Disformation, HolyFlare)
Running for President of Soviet (Chezinu, Superbia)

Can form Super Pac by spending money.

Power roles:
President of USA
President of Soviet
President of England (speculation)
President of China (speculation)
President of North.Korea (speculation)

Items up for bidding:
Tank
Iphone

Possible agendas:
Gather money for abilities; such as research
Unitying USA/Soviet
Brexit
Bringing law to Africa
Destabilise Europe
Building Spaceships with money
Building better nukes
Global warming

Events:
Nuke has been launched will hit at end of day.
Someone tried to infiltrate Soviet political system.
Voting for President without citizenship can get you killed

Possible scenarios:
Nukes are available for every president.
Mafia is trying to bring anarchy to every democratic nation?



Looking back through his filter, these post seems really bad. It's as if he's trying to trying to come up with some way to appear useful to the thread, but has no idea how to go about that. Considering this really serves no purpose at all, it definitely comes off as scummy

some people (jealous comes to mind) just feel the need to do that to sort things out. also luna is 100% confirmed town so idc if that one post looks scummy
good times for all
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 17 2016 05:27 GMT
#1472
##Apply for USSR PASSPORT
GLORY TO ARSTOTZKA
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 17 2016 05:29 GMT
#1473
meh okay maybe it's time to make a list post

town
luna
skynx
hf
vivax
koshi
iamp

town lean
hts
disfo
super

scum lean
gb
kita

possible 3p
onegu

no clue / meh
chez
prplhz
art

who?
Rels
Kurumi
Stutters695
Damdred
Trfel
Dandel Ion
Shapelog
Fecalfeast
sicklucker
Meapak_Ziphh
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 17 2016 05:30 GMT
#1474
##Apply for USSR PASSPORT
what could go wrong?
good times for all
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 17 2016 05:56 GMT
#1475
Ok I have wasted much time for such scarce conclusions. A pity! But the show must go on.
On August 17 2016 05:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 05:18 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 17 2016 05:16 Skynx wrote:
On August 17 2016 05:12 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 17 2016 05:00 prplhz wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:58 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 17 2016 02:50 prplhz wrote:
walk me through why Onegu is scum


I'm kinda confused what your opinion of onegu is after this post.

Are you saying he is a town player that is prioritizing some random secondary condition over his town win condition or do you think it makes more sense that he is a trolly third party?


i'm saying whenever someone does something really rash and inexplicable they usually turn out to be town

if he is scum he's just painting a big target on himself by throwing random nukes in the first 6 hours of the game

if he is town he's just doing whatever because that's what townies do

This is a good post.

On August 17 2016 04:45 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh and disformation looks way more fluid than the last game we played together, so he might also be town. He just needs to vote me.


I also like this post.

That last post is non serious (or at least should be) as they are rivals for presidency.
Which means you interpret "he looks way more fluid than lat game" as a very good post. Did you play that game and do you agree?

Yeah and I think it's a pretty good read, but I was wrong last time. Disform is actually like a crazy nervous mafia player judging from his mafia QT last game.

Are you getting that vibe this game?

On August 17 2016 05:26 disformation wrote:
I kinda like M_Z slowly extracting the exact information from Grack.


On August 17 2016 05:27 disformation wrote:
Makes me think he really wants to figure out Grack instead of lazily paint grack in whatever alignment that fits M_Z agenda.
So M_Z prolly town. cool.

I don't like the ease of this read from Disfo. This was the most useless question ever from Meapak that I had already implied the answer to in my prior post.

I've had a change of heart on the GB election and I think it's more likely he got elected for a secondary objective (Obama stuff) than there being a mafia ploy to elect him. That doesn't mean he can't be mafia, but he's not mafia because he was elected. I don't really agree with the initial read that he's mafia just because he wasn't aggressive at the start of the game. This isn't a normal game.

Dandelion must be called out for faulty math.
On August 17 2016 04:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 04:34 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:26 Skynx wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:12 Koshi wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:09 Skynx wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:00 Skynx wrote:
On August 17 2016 03:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On August 16 2016 19:59 disformation wrote:
So you are saying there is a hidden mastermind taking advantage of two ppl firing nukes in thread and neither oneg nor art are nuking Superbia?

inb4 someone is kim sitting in north korea laughing his ass off.

also agreeing a lot with koshi.

This is a great post yo

How is that a great post?

If onegu is not the one nuking Super he should say right now lol...


I agree that meapak comment was off.
I also think you might be town

Man I was starting to get lonely, literally no one noticing me

I read your list post. You were lacking Vivax and HTS for town. Maybe also kita?
I think you could have at least a couple more townies tbh.

I put vivax in null, I forgot hts but he should be there in null aswell. He made some good posts but they didn't provide enough justification for being in town feels just yet. This was pretty much the case for Vivax, Damdy and few more aswell.

Kita is a bit more wierd, I have mafia feels on him but they are just feels I can't even explain.

Skynx is town for the last part. I am 90% confident in this.

10% confident in your confidence

hey look it balances out to 50%
wizardry

If you are only 10% confident in Tumblewood's confidence then you are 9% confident that Skynx is town.

Half the Sky is one of my favorites so far. Also Lunatic just because he posted his theory of mafia being a team of alien body snatchers.

Kitaman pushing Lunatic for focusing on flavor related things is no bueno. I think this is to be expected from Lunatic.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 17 2016 05:59 GMT
#1476
On August 17 2016 13:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Hi guys

Who gave kita a banana?

I cannot help you with your quest, but if you give me a banana I will bake a delicious banana bread.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 17 2016 06:03 GMT
#1477
Also there's Artanis. First he removed my filter from the game. Then he stole Superbia's legs. Tisk tisk. What's your angle?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 17 2016 06:12 GMT
#1478
do you guys think, not voting mr is s good enough teason to grt shot by fox?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 17 2016 06:17 GMT
#1479
On August 17 2016 15:12 disformation wrote:
do you guys think, not voting mr is s good enough teason to grt shot by fox?

not quite
you might as well say, "do you think grack or tw (or gb) is scum?"
I don't remember grack's reasoning though so maybe look at that
good times for all
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 17 2016 06:22 GMT
#1480
was trying to make a joke. =p
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