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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 16 2016 19:56 GMT
#1161
On August 17 2016 04:46 Superbia wrote:
GB pls elaborate how I'm scum here. Ty.


It's more of a gut feeling than hard evidence. I think your posts until page 20 were uninspiring.
I'm adorable.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
August 16 2016 19:56 GMT
#1162
Anyone else getting a red read from prplhz?

I haven't played in like 3 years but this kinda feels like his scum meta.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22425 Posts
August 16 2016 19:57 GMT
#1163
On August 17 2016 04:52 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 04:39 Vivax wrote:
So if anyone has an anti nuke and doesn't use it to save superbia he better never claim it if sup dies or he's conf scum.

Onegu the warmonger has to be stopped. Who knows what he might do next cycle.

What if he claims but doesn't want to save Superbia because he's not town reading him, and then scum just shoot him tonight because nuke save seems like a rather powerful ability?


There are no night kills. The worst that can happen is that the anti nuker gets nuked.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
August 16 2016 19:58 GMT
#1164
On August 17 2016 04:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 03:07 Lunaticman wrote:
Voting for trump and barrack should be fine, Im a bit worried about hilary though.


FOS Luna for continuing to make baseless role related reads.

We've had a Mafia aligned Batman and Harry Potter and Town aligned Hitlers in past games. You really shouldn't read into that kinda stuff.


My mind will have a hard time grasping that.

Failure is not an option
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 16 2016 19:58 GMT
#1165
On August 17 2016 02:50 prplhz wrote:
walk me through why Onegu is scum


I'm kinda confused what your opinion of onegu is after this post.

Are you saying he is a town player that is prioritizing some random secondary condition over his town win condition or do you think it makes more sense that he is a trolly third party?

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 16 2016 20:00 GMT
#1166
On August 17 2016 04:57 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 04:52 prplhz wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:39 Vivax wrote:
So if anyone has an anti nuke and doesn't use it to save superbia he better never claim it if sup dies or he's conf scum.

Onegu the warmonger has to be stopped. Who knows what he might do next cycle.

What if he claims but doesn't want to save Superbia because he's not town reading him, and then scum just shoot him tonight because nuke save seems like a rather powerful ability?


There are no night kills. The worst that can happen is that the anti nuker gets nuked.

But obviously mafia has some way to kill people they don't like.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22425 Posts
August 16 2016 20:00 GMT
#1167
On August 17 2016 04:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Anyone else getting a red read from prplhz?

I haven't played in like 3 years but this kinda feels like his scum meta.


Superbia seems rather townie to me so yea, kinda odd he doesn't see the same and asks why an anti nuker would townread him. But odd from my perspective, so nothing I would use as argument to push him atm.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 16 2016 20:00 GMT
#1168
On August 17 2016 04:58 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 02:50 prplhz wrote:
walk me through why Onegu is scum


I'm kinda confused what your opinion of onegu is after this post.

Are you saying he is a town player that is prioritizing some random secondary condition over his town win condition or do you think it makes more sense that he is a trolly third party?


i'm saying whenever someone does something really rash and inexplicable they usually turn out to be town

if he is scum he's just painting a big target on himself by throwing random nukes in the first 6 hours of the game

if he is town he's just doing whatever because that's what townies do
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 16 2016 20:01 GMT
#1169
On August 17 2016 05:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 04:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Anyone else getting a red read from prplhz?

I haven't played in like 3 years but this kinda feels like his scum meta.


Superbia seems rather townie to me so yea, kinda odd he doesn't see the same and asks why an anti nuker would townread him. But odd from my perspective, so nothing I would use as argument to push him atm.

I'm just saying that it's crazy to ask someone with that power to claim.

That's like on d1 in a normal game to say "We think this guy is town so medic has to save him tonight, if he doesn't then medic needs to claim".
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 16 2016 20:02 GMT
#1170
it's comparable to, it's obviously not strictly the same
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22425 Posts
August 16 2016 20:03 GMT
#1171
On August 17 2016 05:00 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 04:57 Vivax wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:52 prplhz wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:39 Vivax wrote:
So if anyone has an anti nuke and doesn't use it to save superbia he better never claim it if sup dies or he's conf scum.

Onegu the warmonger has to be stopped. Who knows what he might do next cycle.

What if he claims but doesn't want to save Superbia because he's not town reading him, and then scum just shoot him tonight because nuke save seems like a rather powerful ability?


There are no night kills. The worst that can happen is that the anti nuker gets nuked.

But obviously mafia has some way to kill people they don't like.


I don't think we're dealing with a conventional mafia. It's probably just going to be a bunch of nations/characters that have nasty objectives or particular nations/characters as enemies.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 16 2016 20:05 GMT
#1172
On August 17 2016 05:03 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 05:00 prplhz wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:57 Vivax wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:52 prplhz wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:39 Vivax wrote:
So if anyone has an anti nuke and doesn't use it to save superbia he better never claim it if sup dies or he's conf scum.

Onegu the warmonger has to be stopped. Who knows what he might do next cycle.

What if he claims but doesn't want to save Superbia because he's not town reading him, and then scum just shoot him tonight because nuke save seems like a rather powerful ability?


There are no night kills. The worst that can happen is that the anti nuker gets nuked.

But obviously mafia has some way to kill people they don't like.


I don't think we're dealing with a conventional mafia. It's probably just going to be a bunch of nations/characters that have nasty objectives or particular nations/characters as enemies.

I think it's very reasonable to assume that mafia has some way to off people they don't like. I'm not saying we have Godfather+Goon+Roleblocker and 1KP, I'm just saying that it would be impossible to balance this unless scum has some way to kill people they don't like.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 16 2016 20:06 GMT
#1173
I hope it is not a case of only very few real scummers that can convert/take over ppl...
Also hope there isnt a certain ability in the game, but of course I remembered that after I disclosed like 50% of my role.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
August 16 2016 20:06 GMT
#1174
On August 17 2016 05:01 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 05:00 Vivax wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Anyone else getting a red read from prplhz?

I haven't played in like 3 years but this kinda feels like his scum meta.


Superbia seems rather townie to me so yea, kinda odd he doesn't see the same and asks why an anti nuker would townread him. But odd from my perspective, so nothing I would use as argument to push him atm.

I'm just saying that it's crazy to ask someone with that power to claim.

That's like on d1 in a normal game to say "We think this guy is town so medic has to save him tonight, if he doesn't then medic needs to claim".

Ok I guess I understand that thinking but we've already established that roles don't have to be claimed/posted about in thread in order to be used. Nobody needs to claim in this scenario so they can keep themselves safe.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 16 2016 20:07 GMT
#1175
On August 17 2016 04:58 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 02:50 prplhz wrote:
walk me through why Onegu is scum


I'm kinda confused what your opinion of onegu is after this post.

Are you saying he is a town player that is prioritizing some random secondary condition over his town win condition or do you think it makes more sense that he is a trolly third party?


I mean it doesn't justify what prplhz wrote but sometimes town make objectively bad/stupid plays for absolutely no reason at all, check onegu game.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22425 Posts
August 16 2016 20:07 GMT
#1176
On August 17 2016 05:05 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 05:03 Vivax wrote:
On August 17 2016 05:00 prplhz wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:57 Vivax wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:52 prplhz wrote:
On August 17 2016 04:39 Vivax wrote:
So if anyone has an anti nuke and doesn't use it to save superbia he better never claim it if sup dies or he's conf scum.

Onegu the warmonger has to be stopped. Who knows what he might do next cycle.

What if he claims but doesn't want to save Superbia because he's not town reading him, and then scum just shoot him tonight because nuke save seems like a rather powerful ability?


There are no night kills. The worst that can happen is that the anti nuker gets nuked.

But obviously mafia has some way to kill people they don't like.


I don't think we're dealing with a conventional mafia. It's probably just going to be a bunch of nations/characters that have nasty objectives or particular nations/characters as enemies.

I think it's very reasonable to assume that mafia has some way to off people they don't like. I'm not saying we have Godfather+Goon+Roleblocker and 1KP, I'm just saying that it would be impossible to balance this unless scum has some way to kill people they don't like.


They might just be nations with nukes or detrimental abilities whose goal is to destabilise the world, some other dude wants to destroy it completely. fuck knows. But it's going to be this way imo, otherwise how would everyone have their own individual wincons?
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 16 2016 20:11 GMT
#1177
it's not an individual win con because you win with your faction regardless of whether you fulfill it or not

it's a secondary objective for fun and we all want to do it but not at the expense of our faction losing

if someone is valuing his secondary objective over his faction then he is playing against his win con
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 16 2016 20:12 GMT
#1178
but this is sort of rules lawyering so i guess we shouldn't talk about that
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
August 16 2016 20:12 GMT
#1179
On August 17 2016 05:00 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 04:58 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 17 2016 02:50 prplhz wrote:
walk me through why Onegu is scum


I'm kinda confused what your opinion of onegu is after this post.

Are you saying he is a town player that is prioritizing some random secondary condition over his town win condition or do you think it makes more sense that he is a trolly third party?


i'm saying whenever someone does something really rash and inexplicable they usually turn out to be town

if he is scum he's just painting a big target on himself by throwing random nukes in the first 6 hours of the game

if he is town he's just doing whatever because that's what townies do

This is a good post.

On August 17 2016 04:45 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh and disformation looks way more fluid than the last game we played together, so he might also be town. He just needs to vote me.


I also like this post.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22425 Posts
August 16 2016 20:16 GMT
#1180
Yea sure it's going to be a faction. But each individual will have a unique set of abilities. 1 mafia might be North korea a la Onegu (my guess), 1 mafia might be an imposter president like GB could be, another mafia could be a rich dude who wants to seize control, another one could be a bounty hunter who collects ears from stuff like superheroes.
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