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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 16 2016 12:07 GMT
#621
If you quote it it says: 16. August 2016 22:00 GMT
I am at GMT+2.
That IS in 10 hours.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 16 2016 12:09 GMT
#622
@Superbia You should consider giving your stuffs away before you get nuked. I mean, I don't know if you're actually getting nuked because this game is weird, but if there's someone you think is town then maybe giving them stuffs before you blow up is a good idea.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
August 16 2016 12:10 GMT
#623
On August 16 2016 21:07 prplhz wrote:
@Koshi That "control the president" plan is pretty meh.

Say the president gets to be mayor and lynch someone:

If the president is scum and we vote to lynch a townie he'll just do it, no repercussions because "hey, you said so".
If the president is scum and we vote to lynch his scum buddy, he may do it for town credit (depending on how much we want to kill his scum buddy) or he may not do it (but seems unlikely no matter what contingency we have in mind).

I also think that it's more likely that a town president will NOT listen to town than it is that scum president will NOT listen.

In the end, I think it's a good idea to sort of agree on a lynch but your plan (like most plans) is sort of meh and we'll get more out of just playing the game and analyzing whatever happens.

It's sort of the same argument for any other presidential power, if town votes to use it poorly and the president is scum, then he'll just do it and say "You told me to do that!" and in any other case, the president will play around it.



kitaman27 said he thought President was mayor, this doesn't seem far fetched. General Secretary could be pardoner? Both could be sort of protected against NK? This is purely speculative and anything could happen in this super themed game, that's just how these things often are in a normal game.


I understand your argument and agree, but we can just lynch the president after a while if it comes to that. I would be surprised if the the town cop didn't check the president at some point.
Failure is not an option
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 16 2016 12:11 GMT
#624
On August 16 2016 21:09 prplhz wrote:
@Superbia You should consider giving your stuffs away before you get nuked. I mean, I don't know if you're actually getting nuked because this game is weird, but if there's someone you think is town then maybe giving them stuffs before you blow up is a good idea.


Fuck that. My 500 rubles are mine and mine alone!

Also I am getting saved (hopefully!).
Minimal effort.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 16 2016 12:11 GMT
#625
@Superbia You could also use your skills. Maybe even make something up if you don't have interesting skills? I mean, you're probably dead anyway, it's a carte blanche for doing fun stuff.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 16 2016 12:14 GMT
#626
Prplhz what are you getting at dude? I'm going to do stuff if I can. And if I can't do stuff then I won't. =/
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 16 2016 12:15 GMT
#627
Like regardless if I get nuked or not.
Minimal effort.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 16 2016 12:15 GMT
#628
On August 16 2016 21:07 prplhz wrote:
@Koshi That "control the president" plan is pretty meh.

Say the president gets to be mayor and lynch someone:

If the president is scum and we vote to lynch a townie he'll just do it, no repercussions because "hey, you said so".
If the president is scum and we vote to lynch his scum buddy, he may do it for town credit (depending on how much we want to kill his scum buddy) or he may not do it (but seems unlikely no matter what contingency we have in mind).

I also think that it's more likely that a town president will NOT listen to town than it is that scum president will NOT listen.

In the end, I think it's a good idea to sort of agree on a lynch but your plan (like most plans) is sort of meh and we'll get more out of just playing the game and analyzing whatever happens.

It's sort of the same argument for any other presidential power, if town votes to use it poorly and the president is scum, then he'll just do it and say "You told me to do that!" and in any other case, the president will play around it.



kitaman27 said he thought President was mayor, this doesn't seem far fetched. General Secretary could be pardoner? Both could be sort of protected against NK? This is purely speculative and anything could happen in this super themed game, that's just how these things often are in a normal game.

My "plan" is more a way to make sure we have some sort of voting system in the future that will be followed. If we do not have a plan and people just yell and then the president is free to do whatever the fuck he wants people will get disencouraged and town will not work together anymore.

Being president is all cool and stuff. But even irl you need to do the stuff the people want. Why not here? It is a perfect way to make sure everybody can actually feel useful. If the president ends up nuking town because we voted that way than at least a lot of people voted that way and can continue try to solve the game.

Like.. The game wont be about solving the game for a lot of towns if nobody gets rewarded for actually trying to solve the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 16 2016 12:16 GMT
#629
It has nothing to do with the president his alignment tbh. But maybe my paranoia for HF was a bit shining through.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 16 2016 12:17 GMT
#630
Vote me president and this game will become a normal game with normal lynch mechanics and themed abilities (aka I'll just make vote counts)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 16 2016 12:17 GMT
#631
No need to be paranoid I just want people to be friends.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 16 2016 12:17 GMT
#632
Election is in 10 hours.
Minimal effort.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 16 2016 12:18 GMT
#633
On August 16 2016 21:14 Superbia wrote:
Prplhz what are you getting at dude? I'm going to do stuff if I can. And if I can't do stuff then I won't. =/

I think I'm being pretty straight forward. If I were getting killed in 24 hours then I'd certainly just make stuff up.

Also, give me 1 ruble? I need it for........................ Something.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 16 2016 12:18 GMT
#634
Also Koshi's plan is fine because even if we get a mafia leader they would have to align to protect their team mates, which gives info in the long run.
Minimal effort.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
August 16 2016 12:22 GMT
#635
On August 16 2016 21:18 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 21:14 Superbia wrote:
Prplhz what are you getting at dude? I'm going to do stuff if I can. And if I can't do stuff then I won't. =/

I think I'm being pretty straight forward. If I were getting killed in 24 hours then I'd certainly just make stuff up.

Also, give me 1 ruble? I need it for........................ Something.
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[image loading]



Just pay the 20 million and you get it.
Failure is not an option
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 16 2016 12:23 GMT
#636
Well. I am confirmed to make america great again.
I have promised to abide by koshis plan.
I have vowed to bring democracy to Onegu.

If you are american you know who to vote for.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
August 16 2016 12:24 GMT
#637
On August 16 2016 21:23 disformation wrote:
Well. I am confirmed to make america great again.
I have promised to abide by koshis plan.
I have vowed to bring democracy to Onegu.

If you are american you know who to vote for.


I still don't trust you from last game.
Failure is not an option
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
August 16 2016 12:25 GMT
#638
Man this is super frustrating.

Did all the lurkers roll into the soviet union?
Minimal effort.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 16 2016 12:25 GMT
#639
I don't mind holding people responsible for their actions, but if this plan is stringently implemented, it's more likely to backfire than not.

We don't even need a plan. If someone nobody reads town oddly gets elected president and we ask him to kill someone everybody reads scum, but instead he kills the towniest guy around who then flips town, then what does it matter if we had a plan or not in the first place? We'll still need to react to what actually happened and ask ourselves if scum would trade 1 for 1 in that situation.

It's the same thing for whoever holds the gun to the president's head, if we have a plan saying "If he doesn't do what town says, we kill him", then if he is scum and the president is town he'll see it as a free pass. In the end, your actions are your own and only you can control them and you need to take responsibility yourself.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 16 2016 12:26 GMT
#640
all europeans are american, all americas are soviets.

praise rngesus.
(pls dont i hate that guy)
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