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On August 21 2016 06:00 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2016 05:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 21 2016 05:25 Trfel wrote:On August 21 2016 05:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 21 2016 05:17 Trfel wrote:
Artanis, why do you think I am mafia? You're a lot more useful when you're town. You've barely been around and your first scumread on me was thinking I was disformation. Since then, it feels like you've just decided to call me scum anyway. I don't see any real evolution in your reads and no conviction behind anything you're doing. A small side thing was the usage of XD in the QT's which is something I think you're likely to use. Here's the thing I don't understand. You are a lot more useful when you are town than in this game. And you've already presented reasons that (I assume) you consider valid to explain this. Why is this a valid reason? There is really no motivation for me to play the game when I have no ability to do anything. I've been sharing suspicious people who should be dealt with, but I can't do anything about it myself, and I don't even know who has KP or alignment checks. I need to eat lunch, be back in a bit. I have been very useful since I've been suspected. This has happened in plenty of other games in which I am town; I'm commonly considered for the Day 1 or Day 2 lynch, then this cycle where I get upset/annoyed and spout out a bunch of content happens and I'm mostly treated as confirmed town for the rest of the game. You've been suspected the entire game, and haven't done anything despite that. There's a lynch up and you're still not doing anything. I really don't understand how you can think this. I'm very happy with the targets getting lynched. Are you not? Should I not be? Why should I be doing anything else?
You mentioned Tumblewood. In your reads he's the top person in both lists, yet you're not expanding on him at all. Your list is very long but there appears to be no hierarchy in them. You're not working to find out which are the most likely to be scum between them, or if you have, you haven't made that clear at all. Who do you want to lynch the most, and who do you think isn't actually scum? What are you doing to discern the alignments of the people in your list?
Answer: Nothing.
On August 21 2016 06:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2016 05:13 Half the Sky wrote:
This is what the votes look like now with 1h45 left.
Europe:
IAMP (6): disformation, HTS, Koshi, MZ, Artanis, Dandel Ion, disformation, Artanis, HTS, Trfel
Artanis (4): Koshi, disformation, Rels, Kitaman, HTS, FF, sicklucker
GlowingBear (1): Rels
Damdred (0): Artanis
USA:
Skynx (8): Koshi, disformation, Rels, Kitaman, HTS, Fecalfeast, MZ, Dandel Ion, Artanis, sicklucker
Trfel (1): Artanis
GlowingBear (0): disformation, HTS, Artanis
sicklucker (0): Koshi Let's do iamp first and give artanis another day. ##unvoteeu
##vote iamp
I have done enough today. If you still scumread me you should probably just kill me now and then follow my list.
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On August 21 2016 06:08 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2016 05:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also Koshi popping in and saying nothing bothers me.
Seriously, it feels like people just decided I'm scum and no one decided it's worth thinking critically about. We did think critically and decided you were mafia.
I responded to all your points. A tonne has happened since then and you never got back to my responses or the activity I've generated. You (should) know I have a tendency to give up/don't give a fuck as scum, especially if my team sucks yet you're not processing the new data out of laziness. It's fairly annoying.
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Shooting nukes is a mistake.
Not killing chez is a mistake.
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On August 21 2016 04:05 Lunaticman wrote:
Also Also Chez surived my one shot town vigi attack. I don't know if we should allow him to live.
I'd rather take out some of the inactives tbh.
Confession accepted.
Execution is still immanent.
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On August 21 2016 06:13 Lunaticman wrote:
Shooting nukes is a mistake.
Killing chez is a mistake.
FYP
Chezinu is friend. Chezinu should not be killed.
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PSH.... people these days still think you can kill a bank...
[muAHAHHAHAHA
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On August 21 2016 06:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2016 06:08 Koshi wrote:On August 21 2016 05:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also Koshi popping in and saying nothing bothers me.
Seriously, it feels like people just decided I'm scum and no one decided it's worth thinking critically about. We did think critically and decided you were mafia. I responded to all your points. A tonne has happened since then and you never got back to my responses or the activity I've generated. You (should) know I have a tendency to give up/don't give a fuck as scum, especially if my team sucks yet you're not processing the new data out of laziness. It's fairly annoying.
I was playing overwatch but I agree that it would be a crime to lynch you as town putting in this much effort. But my points still stand wether or not you answered them.
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On August 21 2016 06:17 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2016 06:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 21 2016 06:08 Koshi wrote:On August 21 2016 05:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also Koshi popping in and saying nothing bothers me.
Seriously, it feels like people just decided I'm scum and no one decided it's worth thinking critically about. We did think critically and decided you were mafia. I responded to all your points. A tonne has happened since then and you never got back to my responses or the activity I've generated. You (should) know I have a tendency to give up/don't give a fuck as scum, especially if my team sucks yet you're not processing the new data out of laziness. It's fairly annoying. I was playing overwatch but I agree that it would be a crime to lynch you as town putting in this much effort. But my points still stand wether or not you answered them.
The HTS one was literally invalid as she mentioned she had already changed her mind before getting shot.
On August 21 2016 04:59 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2016 04:08 Rels wrote:
Skynx is super likely scum
Gonna vote GB for the second one. Iamp is a good choice too I feel Most people on the EU side are on IAMP, I will probabIy switch because I don't want mafia to tamper with the lynch. I hate leaving Artanis alive, but we should lynch most probable mafia, and I think the vig shot should be left on some mix of scummy lurkers - GB/Trfel/prplhz/what have you. Also whoever mentioned scumming Artanis, I changed that read towards end of day 1 prior to getting shot. Also really hate that Trfel only pops up when he's mentioned. His activity is dismal as either alignment but I'm definitely not seeing the quality posts he's capable of.
The others were equally flimsy.
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On August 21 2016 04:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2016 04:02 Lunaticman wrote:
Sorry been away playing board games:
I can make a choice:
1: Five year plan:
Boosts the economy of the soviet union, increasing the wealth of all it's inhabitants
2: Prepare for an invasion:
Modernize the Soviet Army. This will allow the USSR to invade another region in later phases
3: KGB
Poison any player in the game with radioactive materials. That player will then die at the end of day 3.
4. Nuclear time
Launch a nuclear missile at any player. We could use 3 if we have a cure to pressure somebody. IN THEORY I would be able to remove the poison during D3. However, this is not confirmed but it would somehow be possible due to a spell I have.
Can you cure me? I've been living in the USSR with tons of explosions everywhere... WHAT IF I R INFECTED!!!!!
OH WAIT! The zombies can't touch me!!! I are radioactives!! which is totes anti-zombie. Well, zombie are leaving now... so cures would be the cools!!!
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I have put my vig shot in (not a nuke). I think it hits scum
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
Swapped to iamp. Really fine with either at this point since they are both highly likely mafia. Still might be able to flip both with kp, right?
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You and Skynx look a lot like mafia buddies. Not only from that QT but also how you ignored him after QTs came out. You didn't say engage him at all, just told him to man up. Didn't vote him even though you were 100% certain that was mafia QT.
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On August 21 2016 06:21 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2016 04:24 Koshi wrote:On August 21 2016 04:02 Lunaticman wrote:
Sorry been away playing board games:
I can make a choice:
1: Five year plan:
Boosts the economy of the soviet union, increasing the wealth of all it's inhabitants
2: Prepare for an invasion:
Modernize the Soviet Army. This will allow the USSR to invade another region in later phases
3: KGB
Poison any player in the game with radioactive materials. That player will then die at the end of day 3.
4. Nuclear time
Launch a nuclear missile at any player. We could use 3 if we have a cure to pressure somebody. IN THEORY I would be able to remove the poison during D3. However, this is not confirmed but it would somehow be possible due to a spell I have. Can you cure me? I've been living in the USSR with tons of explosions everywhere... WHAT IF I R INFECTED!!!!! OH WAIT! The zombies can't touch me!!! I are radioactives!! which is totes anti-zombie. Well, zombie are leaving now... so cures would be the cools!!!
No I can't. (Really can't)
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hey in case you haven't noticed I've been gone for some time
all I've looked at since 107 is modposts
no pms and no flip so nothing huge has happened. it seems like the elections are working out okay. not sure what I can do to help town (short of reading filters because filters suck + mobile sucks) but I can yell at someone if you want
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On August 21 2016 06:22 Koshi wrote:
You and Skynx look a lot like mafia buddies. Not only from that QT but also how you ignored him after QTs came out. You didn't say engage him at all, just told him to man up. Didn't vote him even though you were 100% certain that was mafia QT.
I was focussed on getting people off my back first. I told you this. I also didn't take a close look at the QT at first, only the part I was mentioned in to make sense of it. That was my primary focus of attention. My interactions with Skynx at that point were based on immediate interaction with what he was saying/doing at the time.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On August 21 2016 06:21 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2016 04:24 Koshi wrote:On August 21 2016 04:02 Lunaticman wrote:
Sorry been away playing board games:
I can make a choice:
1: Five year plan:
Boosts the economy of the soviet union, increasing the wealth of all it's inhabitants
2: Prepare for an invasion:
Modernize the Soviet Army. This will allow the USSR to invade another region in later phases
3: KGB
Poison any player in the game with radioactive materials. That player will then die at the end of day 3.
4. Nuclear time
Launch a nuclear missile at any player. We could use 3 if we have a cure to pressure somebody. IN THEORY I would be able to remove the poison during D3. However, this is not confirmed but it would somehow be possible due to a spell I have. Can you cure me? I've been living in the USSR with tons of explosions everywhere... WHAT IF I R INFECTED!!!!! OH WAIT! The zombies can't touch me!!! I are radioactives!! which is totes anti-zombie. Well, zombie are leaving now... so cures would be the cools!!!
What do you know about Ilya Ivanov?
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On August 21 2016 06:21 kitaman27 wrote:
Swapped to iamp. Really fine with either at this point since they are both highly likely mafia. Still might be able to flip both with kp, right?
Have you read the thread entirely?
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On August 21 2016 06:23 Tumblewood wrote:
hey in case you haven't noticed I've been gone for some time
all I've looked at since 107 is modposts
no pms and no flip so nothing huge has happened. it seems like the elections are working out okay. not sure what I can do to help town (short of reading filters because filters suck + mobile sucks) but I can yell at someone if you want
id like to request a mild rant directed at kurumi at your earliest convenience
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On August 21 2016 06:23 Tumblewood wrote:
hey in case you haven't noticed I've been gone for some time
all I've looked at since 107 is modposts
no pms and no flip so nothing huge has happened. it seems like the elections are working out okay. not sure what I can do to help town (short of reading filters because filters suck + mobile sucks) but I can yell at someone if you want
I didn't notice. Thanks for letting me know. I haven't read the majority of the thread. Cure the Chez, Elect the Chez. Praise the Chez. Mourn the Chez. such a sad ending... 
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On August 21 2016 06:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2016 06:00 Trfel wrote:On August 21 2016 05:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 21 2016 05:25 Trfel wrote:On August 21 2016 05:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 21 2016 05:17 Trfel wrote:
Artanis, why do you think I am mafia? You're a lot more useful when you're town. You've barely been around and your first scumread on me was thinking I was disformation. Since then, it feels like you've just decided to call me scum anyway. I don't see any real evolution in your reads and no conviction behind anything you're doing. A small side thing was the usage of XD in the QT's which is something I think you're likely to use. Here's the thing I don't understand. You are a lot more useful when you are town than in this game. And you've already presented reasons that (I assume) you consider valid to explain this. Why is this a valid reason? There is really no motivation for me to play the game when I have no ability to do anything. I've been sharing suspicious people who should be dealt with, but I can't do anything about it myself, and I don't even know who has KP or alignment checks. I need to eat lunch, be back in a bit. I have been very useful since I've been suspected. This has happened in plenty of other games in which I am town; I'm commonly considered for the Day 1 or Day 2 lynch, then this cycle where I get upset/annoyed and spout out a bunch of content happens and I'm mostly treated as confirmed town for the rest of the game. You've been suspected the entire game, and haven't done anything despite that. There's a lynch up and you're still not doing anything. I really don't understand how you can think this. I'm very happy with the targets getting lynched. Are you not? Should I not be? Why should I be doing anything else? You mentioned Tumblewood. In your reads he's the top person in both lists, yet you're not expanding on him at all. Your list is very long but there appears to be no hierarchy in them. You're not working to find out which are the most likely to be scum between them, or if you have, you haven't made that clear at all. Who do you want to lynch the most, and who do you think isn't actually scum? What are you doing to discern the alignments of the people in your list? Answer: Nothing. Show nested quote +On August 21 2016 06:04 Koshi wrote:On August 21 2016 05:13 Half the Sky wrote:
This is what the votes look like now with 1h45 left.
Europe:
IAMP (6): disformation, HTS, Koshi, MZ, Artanis, Dandel Ion, disformation, Artanis, HTS, Trfel
Artanis (4): Koshi, disformation, Rels, Kitaman, HTS, FF, sicklucker
GlowingBear (1): Rels
Damdred (0): Artanis
USA:
Skynx (8): Koshi, disformation, Rels, Kitaman, HTS, Fecalfeast, MZ, Dandel Ion, Artanis, sicklucker
Trfel (1): Artanis
GlowingBear (0): disformation, HTS, Artanis
sicklucker (0): Koshi Let's do iamp first and give artanis another day. ##unvoteeu
##vote iamp I have done enough today. If you still scumread me you should probably just kill me now and then follow my list. List order is player filter order.
I think that everyone on those lists is likely anti town. I'm probably wrong on a few, sure, but reasons are there and they are good, and very readily apparent from filters.
Town isn't supposed to direct town power roles.
Where are you going with this?
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