• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:05
CEST 07:05
KST 14:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy8uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event14Serral wins EWC 202549Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Rogue Talks: "Koreans could dominate again" Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) ByuN vs TaeJa Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion New season has just come in ladder StarCraft player reflex TE scores BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches KCM 2025 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI The year 2050 US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Biochemical Cost of Gami…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 836 users

[M][N] Onegu is the Best Host Mafia Part 2 - Page 66

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 64 65 66 67 68 83 Next
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 12 2016 21:04 GMT
#1301
No, that's just not true in the slightest.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 21:13 GMT
#1302
On August 13 2016 06:04 Holyflare wrote:
No, that's just not true in the slightest.

[image loading]
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
August 12 2016 21:13 GMT
#1303
There is a swedish expression called does the bear shit in the forest? Its a rethorical question btw you figure it out.
Failure is not an option
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 21:16 GMT
#1304
The problem with addressing anything you write is that it creates more wiggle room for you tomorrow.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 12 2016 21:21 GMT
#1305
I don't need wiggle room, I'll be saved by the good last power role player we have. Isn't that right STUTTERS????????
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
August 12 2016 21:43 GMT
#1306
On August 12 2016 16:30 Holyflare wrote:
I also don't think you've mentioned mderg all game? (don't remember at least)

Lol I was going to point out in that post last night that you only mentioned him 1 time.

On August 12 2016 17:52 Lunaticman wrote:
It's called misscommunication in mafia QT.

Ah see that is why you bus your friends.
On August 13 2016 00:21 Grackaroni wrote:
lol you guys all keep promising to look into HF's filter for connections and never do it.

Push on Luna at start.

He said he liked me after I wrote a post saying not to lynch me/disfo

Last second push on GB.

What appears to be the "lynch SL if GB flips town" equivalent of day 1:

Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 06:36 Holyflare wrote:
I haven't read a single one of Shapelog's posts but he's mega dropping that GB is town.

Anyone read him?

Forgets that scum read on Shapelog is supposed to happen after GB flips town.
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 07:04 Holyflare wrote:
sicklucker mafia, shape mafia, damdy you disappointed me entirely but i don't know about mafia

gb mafia

now you can sheep me forever


Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
By the way if you're vigi clean up the trash please.

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
For instance, I didn't even know Stutters was in this game.

Maybe puts Stutters at a little bit extra risk of being vigged. I don't think very much.

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 07:18 Holyflare wrote:
Final Vote Count - Day 1


nnn_thekushmountains (9): Grackaroni, Stutters695, Shapelog, Grackaroni, Damdred, disformation, mderg, Tumblewood, Vivax, Holyflare
disformation (3): GlowingBear, nnn_thekushmountains, Grackaroni, Lunaticman
Grackaroni (1): Tumblewood, disformation, sicklucker, mderg, disformation
GlowingBear (0): Holyflare, disformation, Tumblewood
Lunaticman (0): Holyflare, disformation, disformation, mderg


Stutters/damd/dis/mderg/sl/gb

two out of stutters/damd/dis/mderg/sl are mafia, out of all of these dis probably removed the first

also i still haven't really read anyone but will try this cycle probably


team is probably stutters/gb/X

Shapelog moves back in greenville without explanation. Perhaps less likely if teammates.

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 11:29 Holyflare wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:35 Stutters695 wrote:
Forgot about GB. I don't know his meta really, but if someone else will vouch for him being better as town I'd give it a shot. Only game I can think of was assassin where he pardoned scum and executed town BH iirc.

On August 09 2016 06:22 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 09 2016 06:10 Damdred wrote:
Idk why me holding my vote is scummy, if I didn't vote probably is but,I'll make sure a lynch is done.

Kush is a possible but so is lunatic meh.



Yeah, I'm warning up quite a bit on lunatic. I still like kush a bit more though.

On August 09 2016 05:22 Stutters695 wrote:
Not sure I agree with you about luna yet(certainly not enough to want to lynch him d1), but the rest of your post is pretty solid.

On August 09 2016 03:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 09 2016 03:49 disformation wrote:
Yeah, I think I like the luna lynch a bit more now.
Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter.


What makes you like the Luna lynch? It actually feels like he doesn't have the time to me.


This guy is definitely next.

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 11:30 Holyflare wrote:
Above is not in order though but still outlines his null yet defendy attitude of people for no reasons.

If this had been posted during the night the shot probably would have been on Stutters instead of Vivax.

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 16:42 Holyflare wrote:
You're just saying that gb is going to flip miller meaning you know I'm actually the cop and you're setting up my mislynch for the day after. No way you're getting away with this leap in logic.

2nd accusation of somebody for already knowing that GB is town. Continues to reaffirm his claim and forces mislynch.

Conclusion: I like Shapelog more now. Also Lunatic. Perhaps Stutters even less than before.
Warning: Reads will likely be volatile.

I have my own conclusion in a bit. Might not make it before night cycle thou due to time.

Which if mafia kills me, oh well. At least town will get off there arses.
I hope.
On August 13 2016 02:01 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 09:41 Shapelog wrote:
Oh yeah, for dis.

http://www.omgus.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=246&sid=7d81001257ab07bcf25c7245332e4322 -Game I ML Kush In lylo

Town games I played with Kush that I scum/was sus. of read him at least for D1

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511409-onegu-is-the-best-host-mafia
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/510753-bavarian-nightkills
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/508013-a-wonderful-normal-game-of-mafia
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/506344-a-normal-game-just-for-jat-3

The game in the last link has neither shape nor kush in it?

Lol i thought Kush was in it rofl.
I was Justanotherscummer.

I mean also, while the 2 games that was ended early did do so, you can still see I my entail read on him.
On August 13 2016 02:14 disformation wrote:
Shape's filter are horrible to read.
Game 3: he scum reads kush and pushes a bit. then kush claims cop. shape cc's. (kush cop, shape vt).
not sure if the cc was to protect kush for 1 more check, or that he didn't believe him.
but i guess it supports his point with not being good at reading kush.

Love you too sweetie.

Also that was back when I was bad at this game.
Evwryone else I have a decent amount of reasoning to,think,is town. Shape is a gut read but I liked some of his reasoning but him letting hf try to talk himself out is sort of a red flag to,me. Don't sleep on him.

Wrong sir.
I am gathering more info on his team mates.
For ex
Lunatic is prob not Scum with him, due to this night phase discussion i had with him. I feel like if Lunatic was mafia with him, HF would be trying more to PROVE he was scummy then the opposite of what he was doing (trying to prove him town via newbie logic.) Not only that, put it puts who ever his 2 team mates are in this case able to push lunatic for those posts.

Combine this with the D1 push, and his quick change on his read on him D1, and he is mostly town due to HF scummness.

But noooooo, I "talking him out of it"
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 12 2016 21:58 GMT
#1307
Lynch tomorrow no matter what:
Holyflare, call it policy or whatever but you can't claim a red check on someone. Never unclaimed until the last second and nobody can avoid the lynch, it's the right play to lynch him.

Unknown territory:
Stutters, I don't even know

Slight scum read:
Lunatic, I already said some of it. His constant tunneling with no real evaluations and admitting he thought that person was blue is just so weird. He lacks some if his brownie flair and isn't really interesting past a point.

Could be scum
Sl don't sleep on him, only gets active when it looks like a good opportunity to get cred. Hf could be distancing as well. I have a suspicion he is town just because I agreed with a lot of what he said but I'm a bit paranoid about him.

Paranoia:
Shape, a few red flags bother me. But overall has ok activity but just lacks a certain oomph that he generally has as town. And is a bit lackluster around lunches (could be busy so nai). Overall I'd leave him until the third Mylo to evaluate.

Provably town:
Mderg

Town:
Disformation
Grac

All three of these have shown some drive . Espe rally grac and dis neither of those should ever be the lynch. Mderg is mostly a gut reaction.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 12 2016 21:59 GMT
#1308
And honestly it's just little things about shape and hos over reaction to me pointing them out. I have a suspicion about it, but my initial game reaction was town so I sort of want to stick with that but he's just someone you do not sleep on.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 12 2016 22:00 GMT
#1309
PHASE 2 - Cop Dance Boogaloo




Surprise!



Table of Contents (Clickable Links)

  • The Situation - A Holyflare Perspective Story (entirely narrative)
  • The Crackpot Conspiracy Theory from Day 2
  • Cop Checks
  • Reads (tomorrow)











The Situation - A Holyflare Perspective Story

This is a tale of glory, a tale of misery, a tale of sacrifice. Past this point is entirely an account of how this scenario has occurred and what it means for the town. You will learn the true sacrifice I put forward to lead you out of the evil land of Sicklucker and his cronies to a better land, the promised land.

Reader beware, the content becomes quite emotional at times and you will experience a whirlwind of emotions.



So, as you may have guessed from the title of this novella I am INDEED the cop, phase 2 has been completed! Congratulations, we got through it together, I'm so proud of us.

Since my departure from Teamliquid Mafia, retiring as the greatest player of all time, the person who dodged red checks as mafia, the player that all killed an entire mafia team as town it comes as a great shock to return to this game after some time, the last game I returned to semi-recently I rolled mafia straight away. This situation proposed a dilemma for my new life, a new more busy life, a less mafia filled life (), I couldn't compete to my former glory and invest that much time while working my full time job and living so far away from it, it's not feasible, there are too many things to keep track of and people are natural suspicious of my abilities, it was frustrating. This game was a refresher, a town game, I was overjoyed! Yet, alas, I saw my role PM, it was a cop. I knew that if I played at least to half-capability of my final form then I would be nightkilled immediately, thus my plan day 1:

1) Don't post shit and let others lead and call stuff out you don't like (+policy players that don't play that you have high opinions of)

2) Avoid suspicion and live more than one night please.

This plan was great, until I realised that every capable player abandoned the thread completely and nobody had a single piece of direction, I had to intervene. What better way to do this than an ego driven thread rampage and try to hold the thread hostage (didn't realise it was majority for a while). I usurped the lynch and tried to get it onto GB yet was diverted, yet, miraculously pulled out as one of the most towniest people day 1 with almost 0 real content in my filter at all (what the fuck guys please learn to play, newbies are always open).

Unfortunately this would have led to my instant demise and after seeing the shit show that was the thread on day 1 and the lack of available town leaders what better way than pat myself on the back with sick plays and continue to rampage the thread into day 2? This is why, knowing my ability, I called for as many medic saves as possible. Annoyingly Tumblewood had some sense and did it but it actually roleblocked my power (roleblocks are totally notified btw, please tell me if you get roleblocked at any point).

Now, you have to understand, I claimed cop fully knowing that several situations could occur:

1) Nobody would CC me if I claimed cop because I AM the cop.
2) People will post their opinions on this cop claim and I'll get the information to solve the game.
3) If I think that the person is town I can just rescind the claim later and then
4) If someone cc's me after me telling them not to then it's likely to save the person I "check" and they'll both be mafia and therefore I'd lynch myself to confirm two mafia

So, I've not played here in a while, GB used to play and be active A LOT, admittedly I've seen one game where someone mentioned he doesn't play like that anymore but I thought that if I fake claimed against him it would ignite his passion regardless of his alignment and I could get a better read, yet, it did not, he was a tame player and it actually did disappoint me because I was looking for a fight. GB WAS actually my check if I wasn't roleblocked which is unfortunate but either way. This is where the whole sicklucker situation comes from, the moment he uttered the words about role cops and millers and whatever that's INSTANT suspicion, there's no way that happens.

But, Holyflare, you ask, why did you think they were both mafia?

Truth be told I DIDN'T believe they were both mafia, it was a definite case of being rusty/hedging bets. I thought that if GB did flip town then it all but confirms SL as mafia for this crackpot theory (see later posts if I finish this which isn't likely since I'm only just writing it 15 minutes before deadline lololol also please fucking read my actual posts in the night now).

Then not only did I get alarm bells from that but I got alarm bells from GB posting his trashy attempts :D I didn't believe he could be town and still push his day 1 read on Disformation from the first few posts of the game, legitimately that was bad, really, really bad GB. Then he dodged the SL stuff for a while etc etc, it just confirmation biased me hard. Confirmation bias is bad guys, avoid it at all costs, take this game as confirmation bias 101 what not to do. SL had foreshadowed this case the entire day 2 because he knew it was happening.

Anyway, I also had a major case of the lazy this game due to work being draining etc etc but that's another post for another day. I apologise for being wrong etc etc, I'm still the cop, if someone CCs this they are mafia. I've tried my BEST to be open and honest as much as I could, I didn't want you guys to waste your time at night reading my filter when it didn't contain much content day 1 and I was cop but understandably you've been preoccupied with it.




The Crackpot Conspiracy Theory from Day 2

This could be very out there:

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 10 2016 08:07 Holyflare wrote:
I also have a wild theory for the end of this entire cycle so remind me of that later.

On August 12 2016 08:31 Holyflare wrote:
Also my wild theory from d2 start is still possible. Difvaimvasvios.


= Damdred is fake vigilante and is mafia vigilante and shot vivax instead of stutters

I feel like Damdred has been 100% absent from his "confirmed town" position, he hasn't really had proper reads since some of his first posts day 1, he put the lynch on kush after saying kush was the most improved player this year but gave other people (gb etc) an extra day to play the game, it was a double standard for an easy lynch when it could have just been on stutters who he would not say that phrase about giving an extra day to (relies on stutters mafia again)





My Cop Checks

N1 - Glowingbear - roleblocked
N2 - Stutters - pending




reads incoming tomorrow, no time to finish
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 12 2016 22:00 GMT
#1310
Silence
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 12 2016 22:02 GMT
#1311
Day 3

Damdred, a VT, was killed!



It is now Day 3. You have to decide upon the next lynch.
Five of eight players are needed for the lynch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 12 2016 22:02 GMT
#1312
Ah, well there goes my crackpot theory :s
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 12 2016 22:02 GMT
#1313
Gg
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 12 2016 22:03 GMT
#1314
Stutters has come back green, whether that means GF or not who knows but it's still green nonetheless.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 22:04 GMT
#1315
waaat
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 22:04 GMT
#1316
who is vigi lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 12 2016 22:04 GMT
#1317
vigi do not reveal
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 12 2016 22:05 GMT
#1318
unless you're ever up for lynch
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
August 12 2016 22:05 GMT
#1319
A huh....
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 12 2016 22:05 GMT
#1320
Phase 2 complete?
Prev 1 64 65 66 67 68 83 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Sunny Lake Cup #1
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 221
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 854
sorry 84
Noble 68
NaDa 66
Nal_rA 52
NotJumperer 9
League of Legends
JimRising 644
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K750
Other Games
summit1g7090
shahzam556
C9.Mang0228
NeuroSwarm94
xp34
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH160
• practicex 45
• davetesta10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1112
• Shiphtur395
• Stunt381
Upcoming Events
LiuLi Cup
5h 55m
Online Event
9h 55m
BSL Team Wars
13h 55m
Team Hawk vs Team Sziky
Online Event
1d 5h
SC Evo League
1d 6h
Online Event
1d 7h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 9h
CSO Contender
1d 11h
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d 12h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
SC Evo League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Bonyth
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
3 days
RotterdaM Event
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
PiGosaur Monday
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-08-13
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.