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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 12 2016 18:50 GMT
#1261
On August 13 2016 03:48 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 03:46 disformation wrote:
well. guess who doesn't mention hf even once in his entire filter.
spoiler: it is very easy to guess

Stutters?

correct.
On August 13 2016 03:49 mderg wrote:
Based on hf's d1 we can pretty much rule out luna or sl being scum with him, right?

I arrived at the very same conclusion a few posts ago.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
August 12 2016 18:52 GMT
#1262
On August 13 2016 03:50 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 03:48 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 13 2016 03:46 disformation wrote:
well. guess who doesn't mention hf even once in his entire filter.
spoiler: it is very easy to guess

Stutters?

correct.
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 03:49 mderg wrote:
Based on hf's d1 we can pretty much rule out luna or sl being scum with him, right?

I arrived at the very same conclusion a few posts ago.

I guess you did, yes
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 18:59 GMT
#1263
We're 5v3 right now after Damdred gets night killed. That means we have to lynch correctly 3 times in a row to avoid losing.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 12 2016 19:05 GMT
#1264
It's not correct to rule Luna or sl out as town due to hf probably flipping scum.

Hf loves to bus especially his partners lightly. The Luna push I think is excellent example, it has substance and then just drops it in favor of,going at Gb with everything.

Sl I think might be town anyway but Luna I am not convinced of.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
August 12 2016 19:09 GMT
#1265
Some quick thoughts on hf's possible partners assuming hf is scum. Pretty much only looking at hf's filter for d1/n1.


Shape: hf had him in his scumpile at the end of d1 but quickly changed him to a townread after that.Somewhat plausible partner for hf but not that likely.
Stutters: Pretty much everything is possible. hf mentioned him like once before d2. After that everything is wifom.
disfo: Pretty much only mentions disfo once. Soft defending him against early accusations against disfo's opening posts while pointing to luna's opening posts. Possible partner.
grack: Showing a "positive" opinion of grack throughout d1/n1. Plausible partner for hf.
(me): mentions me once before d2, saying he would be open to lynching me. You can judge that yourself.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 19:10 GMT
#1266
On August 13 2016 04:05 Damdred wrote:
It's not correct to rule Luna or sl out as town due to hf probably flipping scum.

Hf loves to bus especially his partners lightly. The Luna push I think is excellent example, it has substance and then just drops it in favor of,going at Gb with everything.

Sl I think might be town anyway but Luna I am not convinced of.

I'm actually a bit more paranoid of SL than Luna. Luna actually made posts at the end of day 1 that were deterring people from voting him causing HF to switch.

SL didn't do anything at the end of day 1 and Hf had already given prior reasoning for SL being scum and he chose a new push on Glowingbear instead.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 19:14 GMT
#1267
But you must hurry almighty Damdred. Monsters await.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 12 2016 19:14 GMT
#1268
Maybe in either case neither should be discounted after hf. The nk after hf will be the most informative probably.

I also think overall trying to fit a mafia team with hf exclusively is a bad isea. He's good enough to spew and anti spew so I'd ignore his wifom
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 12 2016 19:16 GMT
#1269
So it is basically back to basics paranoia mode.
Reevaluate each and everyone and reread the game.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 12 2016 19:32 GMT
#1270
But on a serious note this is hoe I have the game currently and just some general,observations.

Outside of my reads I think the way the lynch went d1 mafia wasn't super motivated to do anything really. I think hf was the vocal and the other two just settled in and didn't do,much.

I think,this does point to Luna a bit who only wanted to tunnel on a couple people and refused to consolidate to get a lynch done. He also slipped he thought dis was blue and his explanations in that regard wasn't to good.

He's missing some things from,his previous games. I think I'm probably mist sure of him being scum after hf. His interactions with hf were a bit meh d1 in any regard.

The problem comes down to the group of stutters, mderg and a few others that sort,of just exist.

Now to my previous point I think,mderg is probably going to end up,town. He took a stand d1 when,the lynch didn't matter and did some work,when he didn't. It's mostly a gut read here but he's worth a look.

Stutters is just a mystery.

Sl is actually provably town for me. I liked some of his thoughts and in any care shouldn't be lynched tomorrow.

Dis gas been super towns since d1 for me, his responses have been ok and his dismantling and pressure on Luna looked good.

Evwryone else I have a decent amount of reasoning to,think,is town. Shape is a gut read but I liked some of his reasoning but him letting hf try to talk himself out is sort of a red flag to,me. Don't sleep on him.

My people I'd look,into

Hf (lynch
Lunatic

Stutters
Shape(longshot)

Idk it's kinda how I feel currently. I just think it has to be hf and lunatic.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
August 12 2016 19:32 GMT
#1271
I can already see the post game credits.

Im positive the second one is dis but the last one is harder.

A good question to answer is how HF played it together with his teamates. It seems it was their plan to fake claim at day 3 if all of them survived. That leads me to believe that they were never truly under threat.

I was hoping someone would figure this out but I am uncertain you will. If I get NK dis is probably town. They could use my VT to get you to train him. But now they may reverse it because I said so. But the play is out of the world at the very least.


Failure is not an option
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 12 2016 19:40 GMT
#1272
By the way the cop has the most important job in the world right now.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 12 2016 19:42 GMT
#1273
On August 13 2016 02:36 disformation wrote:
So. scrolling through hf's filter:
unlikely to be with luna.
unlikely to be with sl.


@hf you mention really early that grack is very town to you. I think you never explained why.
Actually you did town him kinda hard two times, but didn't explain why.


Grack is my town read I'm most sceptical on currently. I can't remember specific examples and my actual posts d1 are pretty trash for content but I just remember him saying good things that resonated with the state of the game at that current time, which is always a good thing.

I can point out specific examples if you need.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 12 2016 19:45 GMT
#1274
On August 13 2016 04:09 mderg wrote:
Some quick thoughts on hf's possible partners assuming hf is scum. Pretty much only looking at hf's filter for d1/n1.


Shape: hf had him in his scumpile at the end of d1 but quickly changed him to a townread after that.Somewhat plausible partner for hf but not that likely.
Stutters: Pretty much everything is possible. hf mentioned him like once before d2. After that everything is wifom.
disfo: Pretty much only mentions disfo once. Soft defending him against early accusations against disfo's opening posts while pointing to luna's opening posts. Possible partner.
grack: Showing a "positive" opinion of grack throughout d1/n1. Plausible partner for hf.
(me): mentions me once before d2, saying he would be open to lynching me. You can judge that yourself.


Who the fuck puts themselves in a list??
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 19:45 GMT
#1275
Lunatic why did you vote dis during the start of day 1?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 12 2016 19:49 GMT
#1276
Also, yes, like damdred says discounting people from my filter is bad play. Sometimes I hard bus weaker team mates if they're struggling, sometimes I hard defend them.

Damdred should know me dropping reads instantly is a townie Holyflare thing though. Maybe damdred should read that game I got mad in where rsoultin was mafia again where I got accused by hts and people of dropping reads too easily.

I'm a simple man, I see towny intention posts I change my view.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 12 2016 19:52 GMT
#1277
On August 13 2016 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
Sometimes I hard bus weaker team mates if they're struggling.

lol. Do you consult them before doing this or just go for the jugular?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 12 2016 19:54 GMT
#1278
On August 13 2016 04:52 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
Sometimes I hard bus weaker team mates if they're struggling.

lol. Do you consult them before doing this or just go for the jugular?


I'm like a mother bird. I throw them off the cliff without warning and they must fly.

Either way, you're all trying to find links (you couldn't if I was mafia but I'm town) and ignoring the actual CASES that I made. You should read them, especially the SL is mafia one, that one is great.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
August 12 2016 19:55 GMT
#1279
On August 13 2016 04:45 Grackaroni wrote:
Lunatic why did you vote dis during the start of day 1?


Well it is mostly intution combined with several things, voting patterns. First post implied power role, the lynch never taking of and quickly other trains where created.

I woukd actually look at who created the others trains ad why when dis was under attack.

There is honestly no way he is VT.

Failure is not an option
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 12 2016 19:55 GMT
#1280
What's that "confirmed town" guy doing while I feed you with copious amounts of game relevant information anyway? Oh yeh, discrediting with 0 content posts about the game and afking.
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