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beentheredonethat
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
On August 10 2016 06:42 -Celestial- wrote: On a related note though: scott...what is going on in your head on page 57? Basically trying to figure out the last mafia - but BTDT with his vote I basically gave a free pass to. You and J roc seemed to always be on the wrong side of the votes. Oh well it's done now. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On August 10 2016 06:48 beentheredonethat wrote: Shes not in danger. Thank god for that. Best wishes, don't apologise. Stuff happens. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
Well played though, and it was a pleasure coaching you. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 10 2016 06:48 beentheredonethat wrote: We will be in the Hospital for the next few days. She Hit her head hard when she slipped and fell in swimming hall. Shes not in danger. Thanks for the kind thoughts and words. Sorry That's something at least. Hope she gets better quickly | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
On August 10 2016 06:48 beentheredonethat wrote: Shes not in danger. Glad to hear it. Hope for a speedy recovery! | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On August 10 2016 06:49 scott31337 wrote: Basically trying to figure out the last mafia - but BTDT with his vote I basically gave a free pass to. You and J roc seemed to always be on the wrong side of the votes. Oh well it's done now. I mean...I know I was frequently on the wrong side of the votes, I found this game to be utterly infuriating to try to read actually, but holy hell the reason for me spamming up the thread so much was to give people enough info on the reasons behind my reads so as to make it clear I was coming at it from a logical and factual perspective. That being said logic and facts didn't exactly work out too well for this game. X-D | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
Someone who's absolutely incredibly wrong is very unlikely to be mafia. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
During D2 before the last 1h30, Lunatic was looking to be the lynch 100%. So of course he's gonna get bussed. That means it was a good opportunity to see how people reacted to that lynch. People that took the time to think about stuff instead of being sheeps were likely town: silent, Celestial, Skynx. People that were kinda useless and just sheeped were potential scum: JRoc, Moosy, scott. People that wrote that post was 95% scum: On August 05 2016 02:45 beentheredonethat wrote: Having read your post, I find it highly interesting that you get me into a connection with Lunatic, given that I voted him D1 and didnt stop to bring him up to people's conciousness again and again. Youre relucting to vote Lunatic or at least I take that from your wording. Why? Also, I feel like youre wrong on scott, he's in my town circle. He's fairly actice, pushy, and I can see where most of his reads come from. I actually let go of my town lean of you. If Lunatic flips red, I can easily see you bussing here to gain towncred. I am also a bit paranoid about a scott, you and lunatic team but for now the only reason to add Scott to that list is the pterequisite that you are scum, so its highly associative. Makes sense though. I am still having headaches from MoosyDoosy, too. But yeah. This day should end with a Lunatic lynch. If Kelsier survives the night, He should be the lynch next day. We'll most likely loose Rels as uncced vig though so Kelsier surviving should be NAI... but yeah hes not contributing at all although he WAS in the thread. BTDT didn't try to find any reason for Lunatic to be scum during D2; but he's voting him and is already treating Lunatic as super likely to flip scum + drawing teams about that fact. To expand, here is what BTDT could do in this position: Town motivated: Looking ot see IF Lunatic is really scum (like silent / Celestial / me) OR try to find people more likely to flip scum than Lunatic (like Skynx). Scum motivated: See the Lunatic's scum flip as unstoppable and prepare the post-lynch by drawing associations with other people. BTDT did the scum motivated thing here. I should have explained it better before getting killed but seeing as everybody was scumreading BTDT when I was still alive, I did not think it was necessary. Should have done that. We definitely would have lost without that Moosy modkill, and even with it it would have been a close game. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Moosy probably had a reasonable chance of getting found out and lynched eventually though he made some great plays and Lunatic outed himself in order to secure the KSC kill after he was getting lynched anyway. But BTDT...I didn't like him much for the first couple day phases but he was never quite scummy enough to outright lynch, certainly never scummy enough for people to be persuaded to put enough votes for a lynch. And then he picked up just enough town indicators to make him near unlynchable for nearly everyone at the end there. I kinda feel he should be nominated for an award or something for this game. He played great. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5188 Posts
I going to post my thoughts on the game tomorrow. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5188 Posts
On August 10 2016 06:48 beentheredonethat wrote: We will be in the Hospital for the next few days. She Hit her head hard when she slipped and fell in swimming hall. Shes not in danger. Thanks for the kind thoughts and words. Sorry Its fine, Hope your daughter gets well fast! On August 10 2016 06:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: A useful tip is that when someone is right all the time when everyone else is wrong all the time, the guy that's right all the time is probably mafia. Someone who's absolutely incredibly wrong is very unlikely to be mafia. This. Very much this. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On August 10 2016 06:55 Rels wrote: -snip- I actually really hated that post. But my problem is that I got sidetracked by the attempt to link me and scott. Given that all three mafia were alive I was very much worried that BTDT and scott were both scum and BTDT was setting up to read scott as town based on my town flip. The problem THERE, of course, was that I had that in mind so firmly that they had to be a pair setting that up that when Lunatic flipped red and Moosy got modkilled I was completely thrown because they couldn't be scum together. Which meant that only one of them could be scum. And it seemed to make more sense that BTDT was just making a dumb association than he was scum making a potential association to make scott less lynchable (in my eyes). So I just let go of my scumread on BTDT to focus on scott. A mistake, of course. But still. Then again as above I'm now 2 for 2 on reading town!scott as scum. X-( | ||
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silentwarrior
131 Posts
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On August 10 2016 06:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: A useful tip is that when someone is right all the time when everyone else is wrong all the time, the guy that's right all the time is probably mafia. Yup; one thing I picked up from live games in years gone by was basically along the lines of "wrong does not necessarily equal mafia". I tended to find people would always get hung up on people making wrong reads, especially in face-to-face sessions. Rather than thinking about why they were making that read and whether it was for garbage reasons. I was going to post that earlier in big letters but kinda felt that if I posted something so blatant people would think I was trying to wriggle out of being accused in a crappy way. Then again I wish that someone, ANYONE, who had tried to pick me for scum had actually tried to pick a hole in my arguments anywhere rather than just going "yep, scum". There was a reason I tried to provide a basis for all my reads for people to evaluate. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
At least I'm done before my holiday. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On August 10 2016 06:44 -Celestial- wrote: First time that happened was hilarious though. Wasn't the first time I slipped day 1 when I said RIP RaceBannon but it wasn't connected | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On August 10 2016 07:16 Onegu wrote: Wasn't the first time I slipped day 1 when I said RIP RaceBannon but it wasn't connected Yeah it wasn't connected that one. The next one though you literally replied to your own post on a different account. X-D | ||
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Shapelog
United States5188 Posts
Scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/cNYBQT84B6e7 | ||
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silentwarrior
131 Posts
On August 10 2016 07:08 -Celestial- wrote: Yup; one thing I picked up from live games in years gone by was basically along the lines of "wrong does not necessarily equal mafia". I tended to find people would always get hung up on people making wrong reads, especially in face-to-face sessions. Rather than thinking about why they were making that read and whether it was for garbage reasons. I was going to post that earlier in big letters but kinda felt that if I posted something so blatant people would think I was trying to wriggle out of being accused in a crappy way. Then again I wish that someone, ANYONE, who had tried to pick me for scum had actually tried to pick a hole in my arguments anywhere rather than just going "yep, scum". There was a reason I tried to provide a basis for all my reads for people to evaluate. This is suprising to read since the biggest reason I didn't like you in the game was because you went after people you disagreed with or who had done a mislynch or the like. I even said so in-game several times. | ||
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