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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 02 2016 17:24 GMT
#661
I have trouble following you. I am allowed to change my reads after leading a mislynch right ? What is suspicious here ?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 02 2016 17:32 GMT
#662
On August 03 2016 02:24 Rels wrote:
I have trouble following you. I am allowed to change my reads after leading a mislynch right ? What is suspicious here ?

What is suspicious to me is that you are portraying people as scummy based on their votes, when none of the votes looked like changes to save a scum buddy, as Celestial/Stutters believe. Regardless of alignment:

Scott was going to vote Mderg because that was his top scum read.

I was going to sheep you because my reads "sucked."

Silent was going to vote to save himself because he was the alternative lynch.

I can understand why other people believe that the counterwagon is mafia, because they were already suspicious of the people there in the first place. I can't understand why you would copy this vote count reasoning as town if you are actually analyzing the game.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 02 2016 17:35 GMT
#663
On August 03 2016 02:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 02:24 Rels wrote:
I have trouble following you. I am allowed to change my reads after leading a mislynch right ? What is suspicious here ?

What is suspicious to me is that you are portraying people as scummy based on their votes, when none of the votes looked like changes to save a scum buddy, as Celestial/Stutters believe. Regardless of alignment:

Scott was going to vote Mderg because that was his top scum read.

I was going to sheep you because my reads "sucked."

Silent was going to vote to save himself because he was the alternative lynch.

I can understand why other people believe that the counterwagon is mafia, because they were already suspicious of the people there in the first place. I can't understand why you would copy this vote count reasoning as town if you are actually analyzing the game.

Where am I portraying anything ? My only post tonight has been "I like this list"
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 02 2016 17:35 GMT
#664
On August 03 2016 02:35 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 02:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:24 Rels wrote:
I have trouble following you. I am allowed to change my reads after leading a mislynch right ? What is suspicious here ?

What is suspicious to me is that you are portraying people as scummy based on their votes, when none of the votes looked like changes to save a scum buddy, as Celestial/Stutters believe. Regardless of alignment:

Scott was going to vote Mderg because that was his top scum read.

I was going to sheep you because my reads "sucked."

Silent was going to vote to save himself because he was the alternative lynch.

I can understand why other people believe that the counterwagon is mafia, because they were already suspicious of the people there in the first place. I can't understand why you would copy this vote count reasoning as town if you are actually analyzing the game.

Where am I portraying anything ? My only post tonight has been "I like this list"

Yeah that's the one. You're basing your reads off the vote and it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. J'accuse!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 02 2016 17:41 GMT
#665
On August 03 2016 02:35 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 02:35 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:24 Rels wrote:
I have trouble following you. I am allowed to change my reads after leading a mislynch right ? What is suspicious here ?

What is suspicious to me is that you are portraying people as scummy based on their votes, when none of the votes looked like changes to save a scum buddy, as Celestial/Stutters believe. Regardless of alignment:

Scott was going to vote Mderg because that was his top scum read.

I was going to sheep you because my reads "sucked."

Silent was going to vote to save himself because he was the alternative lynch.

I can understand why other people believe that the counterwagon is mafia, because they were already suspicious of the people there in the first place. I can't understand why you would copy this vote count reasoning as town if you are actually analyzing the game.

Where am I portraying anything ? My only post tonight has been "I like this list"

Yeah that's the one. You're basing your reads off the vote and it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. J'accuse!

You don't know what I'm basing my reads on.
This reaction is waaaaay too over the top to be townie. I say I like ONE post with ONE list with your name as scum on it, and you've said all of this. But it is based on nothing since I didn't say anything.
O
M
G
U
S
This is what you're doing. And this is scum indicative.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 02 2016 17:49 GMT
#666
On August 03 2016 02:41 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 02:35 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:35 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:24 Rels wrote:
I have trouble following you. I am allowed to change my reads after leading a mislynch right ? What is suspicious here ?

What is suspicious to me is that you are portraying people as scummy based on their votes, when none of the votes looked like changes to save a scum buddy, as Celestial/Stutters believe. Regardless of alignment:

Scott was going to vote Mderg because that was his top scum read.

I was going to sheep you because my reads "sucked."

Silent was going to vote to save himself because he was the alternative lynch.

I can understand why other people believe that the counterwagon is mafia, because they were already suspicious of the people there in the first place. I can't understand why you would copy this vote count reasoning as town if you are actually analyzing the game.

Where am I portraying anything ? My only post tonight has been "I like this list"

Yeah that's the one. You're basing your reads off the vote and it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. J'accuse!

You don't know what I'm basing my reads on.
This reaction is waaaaay too over the top to be townie. I say I like ONE post with ONE list with your name as scum on it, and you've said all of this. But it is based on nothing since I didn't say anything.
O
M
G
U
S
This is what you're doing. And this is scum indicative.

But it was not just one list with my name on it. It was a list with everybody who voted Mderg in red.

Therefore,

On January 26 2014 23:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Ah, HIJOLE! I am being slandered

I Dinnae say that!
....

Yet not sure I want to out those who Dinnae read what I Dinnae say that they say I said but to for to LaL, I don't know!!!

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 02 2016 17:57 GMT
#667
On August 03 2016 02:49 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 02:41 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:35 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:35 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:24 Rels wrote:
I have trouble following you. I am allowed to change my reads after leading a mislynch right ? What is suspicious here ?

What is suspicious to me is that you are portraying people as scummy based on their votes, when none of the votes looked like changes to save a scum buddy, as Celestial/Stutters believe. Regardless of alignment:

Scott was going to vote Mderg because that was his top scum read.

I was going to sheep you because my reads "sucked."

Silent was going to vote to save himself because he was the alternative lynch.

I can understand why other people believe that the counterwagon is mafia, because they were already suspicious of the people there in the first place. I can't understand why you would copy this vote count reasoning as town if you are actually analyzing the game.

Where am I portraying anything ? My only post tonight has been "I like this list"

Yeah that's the one. You're basing your reads off the vote and it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. J'accuse!

You don't know what I'm basing my reads on.
This reaction is waaaaay too over the top to be townie. I say I like ONE post with ONE list with your name as scum on it, and you've said all of this. But it is based on nothing since I didn't say anything.
O
M
G
U
S
This is what you're doing. And this is scum indicative.

But it was not just one list with my name on it. It was a list with everybody who voted Mderg in red.

Therefore,

Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 23:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Ah, HIJOLE! I am being slandered

I Dinnae say that!
....

Yet not sure I want to out those who Dinnae read what I Dinnae say that they say I said but to for to LaL, I don't know!!!


I don't believe you can really believe this to be true.
Skynx makes a list with you on it and other people => you're OK with it.
I say I like the list => you scumread me.
It doesn't make any sense.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 02 2016 17:57 GMT
#668
Feel free to re explain as much as you want
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 02 2016 17:58 GMT
#669
On August 03 2016 02:57 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 02:49 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:41 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:35 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:35 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:24 Rels wrote:
I have trouble following you. I am allowed to change my reads after leading a mislynch right ? What is suspicious here ?

What is suspicious to me is that you are portraying people as scummy based on their votes, when none of the votes looked like changes to save a scum buddy, as Celestial/Stutters believe. Regardless of alignment:

Scott was going to vote Mderg because that was his top scum read.

I was going to sheep you because my reads "sucked."

Silent was going to vote to save himself because he was the alternative lynch.

I can understand why other people believe that the counterwagon is mafia, because they were already suspicious of the people there in the first place. I can't understand why you would copy this vote count reasoning as town if you are actually analyzing the game.

Where am I portraying anything ? My only post tonight has been "I like this list"

Yeah that's the one. You're basing your reads off the vote and it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. J'accuse!

You don't know what I'm basing my reads on.
This reaction is waaaaay too over the top to be townie. I say I like ONE post with ONE list with your name as scum on it, and you've said all of this. But it is based on nothing since I didn't say anything.
O
M
G
U
S
This is what you're doing. And this is scum indicative.

But it was not just one list with my name on it. It was a list with everybody who voted Mderg in red.

Therefore,

On January 26 2014 23:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Ah, HIJOLE! I am being slandered

I Dinnae say that!
....

Yet not sure I want to out those who Dinnae read what I Dinnae say that they say I said but to for to LaL, I don't know!!!


I don't believe you can really believe this to be true.
Skynx makes a list with you on it and other people => you're OK with it.
I say I like the list => you scumread me.
It doesn't make any sense.

I have higher expectations from you.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 02 2016 18:00 GMT
#670
*for you
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 02 2016 18:00 GMT
#671
On August 03 2016 02:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 02:57 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:49 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:41 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:35 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:35 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:24 Rels wrote:
I have trouble following you. I am allowed to change my reads after leading a mislynch right ? What is suspicious here ?

What is suspicious to me is that you are portraying people as scummy based on their votes, when none of the votes looked like changes to save a scum buddy, as Celestial/Stutters believe. Regardless of alignment:

Scott was going to vote Mderg because that was his top scum read.

I was going to sheep you because my reads "sucked."

Silent was going to vote to save himself because he was the alternative lynch.

I can understand why other people believe that the counterwagon is mafia, because they were already suspicious of the people there in the first place. I can't understand why you would copy this vote count reasoning as town if you are actually analyzing the game.

Where am I portraying anything ? My only post tonight has been "I like this list"

Yeah that's the one. You're basing your reads off the vote and it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. J'accuse!

You don't know what I'm basing my reads on.
This reaction is waaaaay too over the top to be townie. I say I like ONE post with ONE list with your name as scum on it, and you've said all of this. But it is based on nothing since I didn't say anything.
O
M
G
U
S
This is what you're doing. And this is scum indicative.

But it was not just one list with my name on it. It was a list with everybody who voted Mderg in red.

Therefore,

On January 26 2014 23:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Ah, HIJOLE! I am being slandered

I Dinnae say that!
....

Yet not sure I want to out those who Dinnae read what I Dinnae say that they say I said but to for to LaL, I don't know!!!


I don't believe you can really believe this to be true.
Skynx makes a list with you on it and other people => you're OK with it.
I say I like the list => you scumread me.
It doesn't make any sense.

I have higher expectations from you.

Bullshit.
Nowhere in your two posts did this ever pop up as a reason to scumread me and not scumread Skynx.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 02 2016 18:01 GMT
#672
This was your reason:
On August 03 2016 01:59 Grackaroni wrote:
If I have not made my post clearly enough here is my issue:

Celestial believed that me/Silent were mafia from the beginning and sees confirmation of it in the end of the day vote.

Stutters believed that I was mafia during the day and sees confirmation of it in the end of the day and comes to the conclusion that Silent and I are mafia.

Both of these make sense.

Rels on the other hand was suspecting KSC/BTDT and was not suspecting me or silent or Scott. None of the votes on the Mderg wagon seem scum motivated. There's no reason for Rels to buy into Celestial/Stutters' theory without already believing that one of us is mafia. As town I would expect Rels to ignore the wagons completely from his prior reads.

Not "Some people are bad so they are allowed to make stupid posts while Rels is not".
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 02 2016 18:02 GMT
#673
On August 03 2016 03:00 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 02:58 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:57 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:49 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:41 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:35 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:35 Rels wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 03 2016 02:24 Rels wrote:
I have trouble following you. I am allowed to change my reads after leading a mislynch right ? What is suspicious here ?

What is suspicious to me is that you are portraying people as scummy based on their votes, when none of the votes looked like changes to save a scum buddy, as Celestial/Stutters believe. Regardless of alignment:

Scott was going to vote Mderg because that was his top scum read.

I was going to sheep you because my reads "sucked."

Silent was going to vote to save himself because he was the alternative lynch.

I can understand why other people believe that the counterwagon is mafia, because they were already suspicious of the people there in the first place. I can't understand why you would copy this vote count reasoning as town if you are actually analyzing the game.

Where am I portraying anything ? My only post tonight has been "I like this list"

Yeah that's the one. You're basing your reads off the vote and it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. J'accuse!

You don't know what I'm basing my reads on.
This reaction is waaaaay too over the top to be townie. I say I like ONE post with ONE list with your name as scum on it, and you've said all of this. But it is based on nothing since I didn't say anything.
O
M
G
U
S
This is what you're doing. And this is scum indicative.

But it was not just one list with my name on it. It was a list with everybody who voted Mderg in red.

Therefore,

On January 26 2014 23:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Ah, HIJOLE! I am being slandered

I Dinnae say that!
....

Yet not sure I want to out those who Dinnae read what I Dinnae say that they say I said but to for to LaL, I don't know!!!


I don't believe you can really believe this to be true.
Skynx makes a list with you on it and other people => you're OK with it.
I say I like the list => you scumread me.
It doesn't make any sense.

I have higher expectations from you.

Bullshit.
Nowhere in your two posts did this ever pop up as a reason to scumread me and not scumread Skynx.

I think I've pretty clearly showed that I do from day 1. Also most people in the thread have expressed that you are the strongest player so I don't see how this is strange to you.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 02 2016 18:11 GMT
#674
Hi Rels, who do you think is scum and why. Also your thoughts on what me, Celestial, and Stutters posted.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 02 2016 18:12 GMT
#675
So your argument is: Skynx makes a mafia list of dudes that voted for silent. Rels says it's a good list. Since there is nothing fishy about how the votes went down yesterday, Rels is scum fishing for some easy targets.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 02 2016 18:12 GMT
#676
On August 03 2016 03:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Hi Rels, who do you think is scum and why. Also your thoughts on what me, Celestial, and Stutters posted.

quote
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 02 2016 18:17 GMT
#677
On August 03 2016 03:12 Rels wrote:
So your argument is: Skynx makes a mafia list of dudes that voted for silent. Rels says it's a good list. Since there is nothing fishy about how the votes went down yesterday, Rels is scum fishing for some easy targets.

My argument is that day one you seemed to be reading the game in a similar way that I was. Day 2 you moved with the thread sentiment for what looks like reasons that I don't believe you would actually read as scum indicative. (being on the mderg lynch)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 02 2016 18:22 GMT
#678
On August 03 2016 03:17 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 03:12 Rels wrote:
So your argument is: Skynx makes a mafia list of dudes that voted for silent. Rels says it's a good list. Since there is nothing fishy about how the votes went down yesterday, Rels is scum fishing for some easy targets.

My argument is that day one you seemed to be reading the game in a similar way that I was. Day 2 you moved with the thread sentiment for what looks like reasons that I don't believe you would actually read as scum indicative. (being on the mderg lynch)

Why ? Who were you scumreading between the mderg lynch and the scumread on me ? Who would you expect me to scumread and for what reasons ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 02 2016 18:24 GMT
#679
Start of night you posted reads that I also share:
On August 02 2016 08:44 Grackaroni wrote:
Well, I'm just going to take tomorrow off. I'm sick of looking at this game. Night kill will in all likelihood be between Celestial and Rels, possibly stutters. Doctor should choose between one of them. See ya next phase.

Then:
On August 02 2016 08:44 Grackaroni wrote:
When I come back my reads will likely be entirely different.

Then no more reads until the posts on me.
What do you disagree with with the Skynx post ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 02 2016 18:25 GMT
#680
You had no scumreads all night apart from the one on me. You had two townreads that we share. So I don'tr understand why this is a reason to scumread me:
"My argument is that day one you seemed to be reading the game in a similar way that I was. Day 2 you moved with the thread sentiment for what looks like reasons that I don't believe you would actually read as scum indicative. (being on the mderg lynch)"
ESPECIALLY since we mislynched, so it's normal reads evolve, and ESPECIALLY since you've said your reads were also going to change entirely.
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