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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 22 2016 20:22 GMT
#1340
On July 23 2016 05:21 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 23:25 Skynx wrote:
On July 22 2016 22:55 Koshi wrote:
On July 22 2016 21:30 Skynx wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
You guys have to understand one thing about Koshi. His votes never come out of nowhere. There is always some deep analysis behind them.

His kush vote came exactly out of nothing. Absolutely nothing. Koshi never does that.
His only interaction with kush in this game: he tells him to read my filter.

This is his opinion on kush, the only one.
On July 21 2016 23:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 23:20 Grackaroni wrote:
I still think Kush has a good chance of being mafia, but it's pretty clear by now that nobody else thinks so and I don't think there's much I can do about that.

Kush changed his playstyle. If he is looking at the right place he shouldn't be lynched until he shows face.


Then grack starts the train.
On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
meh. It is possible.

On July 22 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote:
##Vote: Kushm4sta


He always always shows his opinion on why people are scum or should be lynched.
On July 22 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:
On July 22 2016 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Rels you got meta on DCW?

No.
I'm not even 100% convinced he's scum. But he's the more likely to flip scum.

Why is Kush town?

He never says why kush is mafia to start with. Instead he defends his vote this way. This is not how he plays, never.

On July 22 2016 06:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 06:49 DCWasabi wrote:
Why are people even trying to lynch me?

I have posted honestly and tried to figure things out, tho it isn't easy and I was pretty damn active early on/

Well if Kush isn't mafia and you aren't mafia, then mafia are the people that people don't like lynching even though they are not being top town. aka Palmar and sl etc

There are also other stuff.

To answer the case on me.

I agree the lynch was terrible. I failed on the Kruppe read once more and was looking for a better lynch. Kush was presented and I went w.e.

I think I made a horrible mistake thinking both Tumble and Skynx are town. I still hope Skynx is town though. But this case is pretty opportunistic. But maybe it had to be made.

I will still be looking to solve the game. So your option to read me are:
a) mafia trying to lead town to the wrong path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game.
b) town trying to lead town to the right path. Using good/decent arguments throughout the game.

alas I totally admit I was wrong on both Kruppe and Kush.

That's a sly line. If you're not town reading me for pointing out crucial mistakes from a town pillar I don't know what makes me town. This is not you Koshi.
I had a solid D1, both kush and Palmar were my townreads and I pushed agaisnt kush lynch when it was still in discussion. I had no reason to townread kush when the only main argument on why he's scum, by Grack was based on tone and I pushed grack for it.

Now I only have to figure out who are your teammates.


people have been lynched for less... kush played pretty poorly he called 10 people scum and built no town circle and voted a town out of spite because he thought it would be funny to mislynch me


like lol you need to calm down your going on a rampage here your going to mislynch ALOT of people in your life

Didn't you vote for me for using reasoning similar to this on Kush?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 22 2016 20:28 GMT
#1346
If I were scum this game I would have come back day 2 to lynch Palmar because I fucking love lynching Palmar.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 22 2016 20:29 GMT
#1349
On July 23 2016 05:28 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 03:03 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 23 2016 03:00 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 23 2016 02:52 Grackaroni wrote:
I didn't think Palmar would get killed. There's probably something worthwhile in his filter because he didn't seem overly townie.


Or that is what the mafia wants us to think, which means it is probably the reverse.

If mafia were smart they would have left Palmar alive. A bunch of people would have voted him. I would have considered it for sure. There's got to be a reason to kill him.


not really. plus I told the thread he was blue because im sly like that. palmar gets nked n1 for no reason all the time. its probably half the reason he just trolls and does not play anymore lol...

Then people are giving a bit too much respect for Palmar's play. He's a good player, but he wasn't doing anything this game.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 22 2016 20:34 GMT
#1355
On July 22 2016 20:18 sicklucker wrote:
also only rels and maybe koshi would make that nk honestly. me too but im not going to say that duh.

So hum. rels is probably mafia too

On July 23 2016 05:14 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 22:34 Koshi wrote:
a fear kill is almost always coming from Rels or sicklucker here.

Palmar dieing is really odd anyway.. I think there were obvious townies in the thread. Palmar really was not one of them.


i agree I said the same thing koshi but said you or rels and then I said probably.

its probably rels....

On July 23 2016 05:24 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 23:40 Skynx wrote:
You guys should lynch Koshi, Grack, SL in this order. Cop should check kruppe and Luna.

emperor, haze, rels are always town.


neither of you are getting lynched today fyi relax. its probably rels

I was hoping to find some justification for your vote and I found nothing. Bad. Bad. Very bad. This is the 2nd time you've just hopped on to the wagon of choice while doing absolutely nothing. Care to explain yourself? Or should I just go with my own explanation?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 22 2016 20:40 GMT
#1360
No dice. we have a whole thread worth of information and you decide to base your vote off of NK wifom. My interpretation from the NK is that it was either Tumble or a scum team full of new players. I can guarantee I wouldn't have made a Palmar kill in a game where Palmar was a likely mislynch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 22 2016 20:42 GMT
#1363
On July 23 2016 05:39 Rels wrote:
This is a very townie post. Read it and try to see why.
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 19:54 prplhz wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:50 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:49 prplhz wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:47 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:47 prplhz wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:47 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:46 prplhz wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:44 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:20 prplhz wrote:
why shoot Palmar over Koshi when we have no protective roles

not calling Koshi scum at all, i'm more thinking that it's a good idea to reconsider most things

but they're gonna shoot Kruppe the Eel n2 so we'll have Koshi for a while


And why is Kruppe not a traitor spouting lies?

Kruppe asks of you, prplhz, where do you get your info?

because no cc?


What sort of Warren does most innocent Kruppe tap into?

i don't understand this post


What sort of adept does prplhz believe Kruppe to be?

i thought you were a cop?

i guess it's easy to misunderstand the things you're saying WHEN YOU INSIST ON OBSCURING EVERYTHING AND TALKING LIKE A LUNATIC

i need a break


Why did you think this? Because Rels said so? The Rels you had a scumread on?

Kruppe raises his eyebrow most vehemently!

maybe grackaroni said it (hurr durr also scumread him) and maybe a bunch of people said it pretty much simultaneously and maybe "adept in truth" sounds a lot more like a COP, a guy who INVESTIGATES PEOPLE to find out the TRUTH about them and not so much like a MEDIC who HEALS PEOPLE or a VIGILANTE who SHOOTS PEOPLE IN THE FACE or a WHATEVER who PUTS THEM IN PRISON

i'm trying to make sense of this thing where you claim blue but not a role. but then again, you really seemed to claim cop so i don't know if you're just messing around and wasting everybody's (my) time right now.

This post overflows with prp's will to solve the game. And of course, scum's role is to fake solving the game. It's hard though.
Here prp's mindset is: "fucking kruppe claimed a role. fucking kruppe don't say a damn clear thing. I'm gonna make him spit out his claim or I will die trying".
It's beautiful to read. It's townie.
Prp is likely town.

I had the same note. I don't like to make reads based off of anger and the like since I think it's bad for the game, but they often are quite accurate.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 22 2016 20:45 GMT
#1371
On July 23 2016 05:43 sicklucker wrote:
also apparently grack jumped off the kush wagon once he had enough votes to seal the deal. interesting

That's bullshit. I went off the Kush wagon when there was nobody else on the Kush wagon. I went back to the lynch when I saw the opportunity arise for me to get my lynch of choice.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 22 2016 20:54 GMT
#1377
From what I've seen so far:

EmperorChampion, Prplhz, and Kruppe the Eel are almost certain town.

Rels and Lunatic seem quite likely to be town. And Lunatic is a whole can of worms which I am really not interested in opening.

Tumble is tunnel tunnel tunnel all game long. Now we're getting tunnel by association with another tunnel.
Skynx has done things I do not like. He might be a good lynch today. His filter is quite good considering he's a newer player though.

Koshi is still in the running for sneaky scum. He's a pretty good player.

DCwasabi hasn't done too much this game. That starts to be damning the further into the game we get.

Sicklucker reads like scum to me and is a great lynch. His filter is devoid of anything of use, and now he's pushing votes based off Wifom. Apparently by his logic leading a mislynch is scummy but opportunistically following me on that mislynch does not matter because Kush would be the lynch anyway. Lynch with fire.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 22 2016 20:57 GMT
#1379
And here's some more wifom for you SL, maybe you killed Palmar just so you could bullshit your way through some suspicions. Way more likely than me killing Palmar.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 22 2016 21:01 GMT
#1380
I'll be back later tonight, likely drunk. Please don't hammer any player today.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 23 2016 05:28 GMT
#1434
I'll take Rels #1 bestest teammate any day of the week. It seems like he could use a buddy at this point.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 23 2016 05:43 GMT
#1435
We're getting way off track. It seems like nobody sees SL lurking in the shadows with the dagger hidden behind his back.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 23 2016 06:04 GMT
#1441
On July 23 2016 14:48 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 14:43 Grackaroni wrote:
We're getting way off track. It seems like nobody sees SL lurking in the shadows with the dagger hidden behind his back.

why do you want to lynch sl (oh all people) now (of all times)

Because he's full of shit. First he wanted to lynch me because I was pushing Kushm4sta. Then he jumped on the Kushm4sta wagon because he thought it was strange that Kushm4sta voted him. End of day 1.

Day 2 he says that I'm scummy for leading the Kush wagon while excusing himself from all responsibility because "he would have been lynched anyway", which is a lie since Sicklucker is not an oracle and could not have known who was getting lynched that day until the day was over.

Now day 2 comes so he's right back to pushing me because I "would have killed Palmar." Where does he even come up with that? As he has said earlier this game, I played one game with him before and I was town and got nked day 1. So why does he believe I would have killed Palmar? Where is he gleaning this information from? It's certainly not from past experience. If I was scum I wouldn't have killed Palmar because Palmar was being suspicious and wasn't even suspecting me to begin with.

And then there's the fact that this thread is filled with information, which he hasn't used at all. All of the suspicions he has posted are based entirely off this NK, which is pretty much wifom. Some people think it was Rels/Koshi/SL who killed Palmar. I think it could be you or a newbie who is giving too much respect for the power of Palmar's play.

Either way Sl has contributed nothing of use besides sheeping me and then accusing me out of thin air of wanting to kill Palmar.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 23 2016 06:09 GMT
#1442
And by the way, the Kush vote wasn't even a real vote! It was a troll vote.
On July 21 2016 12:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Actually I rethought this and I'm not confident about those two even. So I'm just going to vote for SL.

CASE AGAINST SL

SL has never been mislynched. So lynching him is a win-win situation for us.
Either he's scum, or he's town and we shit all over his streak.

##vote SL

So first SL thinks I'm scum for my push on Kush. Then he sees this post and decides that Kush is the right lynch after all. really?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 23 2016 06:23 GMT
#1443
On July 23 2016 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:
is it scummy to justify your reads for totally different reasons than why you created them?

I believe so, yes.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 23 2016 06:24 GMT
#1444
On July 23 2016 14:58 Tumblewood wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
bet you weren't expecting this

because rels is now scum because he twists filters/summarizes paragraphs-long posts as "useless" or "wrong" or "bad bad bad". check his scum cases in normal game for jat or like some other game he was scum in. looked through his filter for the first time which apparently helps you notice things you didn't before

I don't understand what you're saying here.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 23 2016 06:40 GMT
#1446
On July 23 2016 15:34 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 15:24 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 23 2016 14:58 Tumblewood wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
bet you weren't expecting this

because rels is now scum because he twists filters/summarizes paragraphs-long posts as "useless" or "wrong" or "bad bad bad". check his scum cases in normal game for jat or like some other game he was scum in. looked through his filter for the first time which apparently helps you notice things you didn't before

I don't understand what you're saying here.

like, just this game rels has a post where he takes a bunch of quotes from dcwasabi and gives them short tags (ranging from a sentence long to just the word "useless") that twist the meaning, context, and intent of the posts to fit his claims. I don't honestly think rels sees the post that he quoted and thinks, solely, "useless".
this is a thing he does as scum and no one does as town. + Show Spoiler +
except me, occasionally?

It seems like a normal case to me. He's not just calling the posts useless for shits and giggles. Rels is giving examples to demonstrate his point from the top of his case.

"DC have a fair chance being scum. His filter have almost no content BUT all of his big posts are made to feel like they actually have content. A recurring theme these these big posts is "INACTIVE IS DIFFERENT FROM SCUMMY". Look, it comes back very often:"
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 23 2016 06:41 GMT
#1447
What are your thoughts on Sicklucker?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 23 2016 06:51 GMT
#1449
On July 23 2016 15:47 Lunaticman wrote:
good morning, everyone.

Why is it that every player keeps throwing shade at different players all the time.

I think we should focus on just a couple of players and come up with decent arguments for them.

All that is happening right now is just confusing which suits the mafia well. I must say they are playing pretty well until we flip one of them.

I still believe Koshi, Kruppie or Tumble is a mafia. I am almost certain Koshi/Tumble is a 50/50 mafia flip.

come one town!

Kruppe has claimed Jailkeeper. Without a counter claim he is off the table for a lynch.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 23 2016 06:53 GMT
#1450
I'd really prefer a SL lynch, but I guess I can understand why people would not want to follow me into another lynch today after the Kush lynch.
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