[M][N] Onegu is the Best Host Mafia

On July 12 2016 06:59 Half the Sky wrote:


http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/mafia/500724-player-read-diagrams#14

You might find that amusing xD

On July 12 2016 09:52 vorono wrote:

i voted you for this post


no

On July 12 2016 10:01 Snickers wrote:
Is kush mountains kush masta or nah?

On July 12 2016 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Hi again finally home with pizza in my stomach.

First thing, it seemed emperor your hype level was a bit high. What did you get out of your conversation with prp anything worthwhile?

@snickers, so we meet again. This time will we once again be at each other's throats or be cordial. As for my part I'm going to try to be cordial and work with you if I think you are town.

Ls ls idk why I make snap judgements on your alignment but I do. Do you want to take a guess at what it is?

Prp well meh, it just depends on what I feel like doing during the game whether I can push a Lynch or not. Put me in a game with Palmar Marv and a few others (people who listen) I can get it done effectively well. Put me in a gamr with someone like rayn I'll get yelled down every time.

On July 12 2016 11:13 Damdred wrote:
Well I disagree that I was playing well, adequate would be a better word for it probably.

Do you have any leanings one way or another ls on anyone so far?

Also how many games have you played with snickers?

On July 12 2016 12:16 Damdred wrote:


Hrmmm ok, well what do you think of emperor and pro conversation? Did you see anything interesting?

I know you say you have no reads exactly.

On July 12 2016 23:18 Vivax wrote:


This comment doesn't really seem relevant? Feels to me like you're avoiding giving a more concrete opinion on KSC even though I might have given you a good reason to.

Whether KSC knows about Damdred rolling scumin the last game doesn't really have much to do with my point. Even if he were to be more careful about reading him as town his opinion that the points are good is there and should influence his read on emc I think.

On July 12 2016 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up now. Kush, KSC, and Snickers are currently null. Kush for saying I here but wanting to talk because he's tired. KSC had only only posted a list post for content wise. Snickers only post was asking if Kush's identity. Dunno how to feel about voro because I seeing it similar to Day 1 of another game with me and Holyflare but holyflare is a et so (shrugs).
@Voro Do you got any other reads you would like to share?

On July 12 2016 23:54 Shapelog wrote:

Well, I also have probs. outside of that.

Like, that comes off to me as if he is trying to paint sus. on Kruppe for not answering his question (which he did, but is irreverent to to point anyways)

He just seems to be following/pushing a scum agenda of Finding/pushing ML making others look sus.

Plus, it is so funny that him of all people is complaining about not answering questions.

On July 12 2016 23:56 Shapelog wrote:
But advast,

even in the case that both are scum, we still need a third partner in crime.

Anyone outside of those two rubbing you wrong LS? No one really stood out out when I catched up expect kush, but kush always does.

On July 13 2016 00:15 Shapelog wrote:

Tbf, you have talked about him (IIRC, or at least listed questions) about him before this. I would as well tho.

Is your bff read on Damdred still null or watching or whatever it was?

Well it is technically meta.

Meta is referring to how you know someone plays normally. Now, 1 game shouldn't tell you how he is normally playing (which is some of the prob. that people have stated) but, you do go into the next game with a bias of how they should play, which is basically meta.

In your case, you called his actions different, yet gave him townie points. This is fine, with evidence or reasoning like yours if you prove it, but you still should expect people to question you about it.

Ik what your doing Emp, I did it too. It is why I am not pushing it more, because, I can/have see people like you do it as either alignment.

On July 13 2016 00:16 Damdred wrote:
Emperor on the surface it is a half meta read from your experience.

But let's leave that for now, can you tell me any other reads or anything at this point? Maybe ls shape?

@LS while I appreciate a healthy amount of fear for my scum game I'm not so sure there is a point in trying to deter everyone from town reading me when I have a decent amount of content for that part of the game. What is your angle in this? What read do you have hidden about me that you haven't shared?

@Shape hi shape

On July 13 2016 01:15 Vivax wrote:


Wut. The KSC read was about Damdys convo with emc. I think this is mafia LS, too many nervous posts + he's making stuff up here imo.

On July 13 2016 01:24 emperorchampion wrote:
@ Vivax: what do you make of this LS post where he answers his own question?



Maybe it's nothing but it feels weird to me

On July 13 2016 01:24 Shapelog wrote:

You really are making me want to lynch you now, based off of this.

On July 13 2016 01:27 Shapelog wrote:

Oh your mafia?

EZ GAME!

On July 13 2016 01:27 Vivax wrote:
Remember that I don't care if you get emotional it won't get you townread. Never fell for it, never will.

I already wondered what damdreds last game had to do with anything kelsier said earlier:

+ Show Spoiler +

Now you claim Kelsier said anything about Damdreds last games as a justification towards Damdred cause he's asking you why you spread doubts about him.
Ezpz

On July 13 2016 01:30 Shapelog wrote:
I mean, LS just latterly told me I would be disappointment when he flips, when i am lynching him on the idea of getting him lynched as town. Meaning he would have to be mafia....

I mean, either way I suppose I win.

On July 13 2016 01:31 Shapelog wrote:

Did u not read the reasoning of me wanting to lynch you?
aka,

Yawn good luck lynching me I haven't been lynched Day 1 as town in a long while ;D

On July 13 2016 01:35 Shapelog wrote:

Normally, yes.

But I want to lynch you for your cocky remark about not being lynch for a long time d1. And would be happy if you flip green just for the sake of taking you down a notch. And if you flip scum, well you flip scum.

Like, it is a win-win situation for me.

Maybe I won't though, depends.

Honestly I cannot care right now with AMV souleater right now,

On July 13 2016 01:38 Shapelog wrote:

Please,
The only person who has ever killed you as mafia is me.

On July 13 2016 01:37 Shapelog wrote:


Bad reader,
I claimed scum with my first post.

I take it under constructionist, invest it in my typing skills

On July 12 2016 22:40 Shapelog wrote:
Hi Guys!

Mafioso Scum (fake?)Claim for now, till I catch up. Might change it up to a town or higher ranked mafia role (fake?)claim, depending on how the thread makes me feel.

On July 13 2016 01:41 Damdred wrote:
Shape should of never killed ls in storm rip.

Anyway, I missed you shape it had been so long since we had been together I thought my hi would of conveyed the depth of my emotion to you.

As for this ls vs thread hit fight, idk. It sort of is nai he can do it either way. I have a couple problems with ls though, the general attitude towards me/fear mongering when I think my content/activity far outstrips where I have been in any of my scum games. His approach to the end also bugs me and he feels like he flailing now a bit.

On July 13 2016 01:50 Shapelog wrote:

Why?

First off, we have over 24 hours left. So Idk the we need to do it now point.
Second, you wanted him to comeback and see how he acted.
Third, You are excessive to Damdred here, and not me/rest of thread, some of which, has voiced sus. towards him.

On July 13 2016 01:58 Shapelog wrote:

1. When the lynch is ~26 hours away? And no doubt, other things will happen in the thread?
2. Yes, but he has ~26 hours to come back, and isn't really a excuse till like being gone for over 12 hours. He has come back, before, even if it is to call EMP scum again. Hell, for all we know, he could be sleeping. I mean the guy has shown a tedious of coming and going.
3. Ok I know that already. But why aren't you targeting or asking me, who has voiced sus. about him, to vote?

On July 13 2016 02:04 Shapelog wrote:
Yeah, but it is Set Majority right? Like in Noir?

On July 13 2016 02:10 Shapelog wrote:

I just going to ditch the 123

Yes, but your reasoning for to see when he come back was for you too see how he reacted to us talking about him. Which has not been meet. Yes, he hasn't come back yet, which does trouble me and you, yet that isn't so much of what I am trying to say. what I am trying to say, is that you no longer care about that test it seems. And why not at least wait a while? I image that this has a deadline (48 hours, considering the set up info) so why not try to get the most info out of people, and allow people like Kush or Kel to post more, so we go into Day 2 (well hopefully) with more info then lynching him now.

On July 13 2016 02:20 Shapelog wrote:

In serious thought?

Honestly I didn't have a major Pablum with him, even while trolling him. I didn't have any problems until the vote and "We need to vote Now" post. A lot of things he did, I could see either scum or town LS do. And I don't have that much experience with scum LS to tell if Vivax point has any merit too it.

The thing that bothers me with the vote, is that when me and him talked about it, he didn't have any motivation to vote him then. And wanted to wait and see Vovos reaction, if one. Now, when he is getting voted by vivax, he brings up the vote, and talks something about Vivax being a player that changes reads and etc.

It just seems so....odd to me. Like if LS really didn't care about vivax, why is he really wanting a wagon to happen on vovo all the sudden. Like he thinks the thread is going to follow suit, or something along those lines.

On July 13 2016 02:34 Shapelog wrote:

Yeah the bold is what I meant to say.

And I get and see why Vovo looks scummy, hell I agree with it. Hence, why I am not voting you out of that reason. I do not think tho that him not being here rn is a reason to drop it. Hell, for all we know, he could be sleeping.

I think I am going to take a back seat rn, and just prod the Thread if discussion gets low. I not being really productive in my eyes, and already have almost 4 pages.

I only sheep on reads.

And you just did a good job defending from my thought post here. Really good. Like how you basically just showed what I meant in one post.

Oh yea, Derp.

On July 13 2016 02:48 Shapelog wrote:
Sure,

You saying Lynch vovo, sheep me, America is Great. is totally defending my points about you wanting to do it.

On July 13 2016 02:57 Shapelog wrote:

Both posts were sarcasm. FFS.

Ik what your getting at LS, I do. But personally, I like at least giving the person a chance to talk. If you don't believe me, look last game. If he comes back, and does the same shit, or his answer is scummy. I'll vote then. I see no need to vote him yet.

If he doesn't come back 10 hours before deadline, I'll vote him.

Ok?

On July 13 2016 03:03 Vivax wrote:
LS how did you know I was town in the posts after you asked me if my vote on you was a scumclaim?

On July 13 2016 04:05 Vivax wrote:


Nowhere is explained how their alignments would help figuring out the scum team.



One hour later he "wanted more opinions on them". He wants to lynch him because his push is weak. And still nobody knows how their alignments would solve the game. These are all not arguments for voron being mafia. For any town person he should be at best null, on a D1.

When LS gets heat on him he intensifies the tunnel and adds another argument (bolded) that makes vorono at best more afk, not more mafia and was never part of his original arguments to begin with. To me it just looks like he's desperately trying to push attention away from himself by doing this.



Caution meta and tone ahead
this won't be even up for debate for me cause I don't even need this argument to explain why he's mafia (if you have rebuttals then adress my other points thanks) , but if you accept meta as a reason and are acquainted with LS then it might convince you.

+ Show Spoiler +

I highly doubt I will lynch anyone else today.

On July 13 2016 04:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Voro I mean not boro

On July 13 2016 04:23 Vivax wrote:


Maybe you're right but if you're right then only cause you're mafia with one of them. Otherwise nobody can say that for sure. They didn't both claim the same role or anything like that.

Spamming insults doesn't make you look more town by the way. In Holyflare mafia you didn't do that when under suspicion.

On July 13 2016 05:21 Shapelog wrote:

Well Maybe you should.

I mean, I understand the stress of being called scum, regardless of alignment. But I cannot understand A) calling a faggot B) Just your temper over all. Out of all people, I expect you, to understand that those kinda of comments, considering how you act when someone uses the work Autistic in a negative way (which I support you, Autistic brother and I have special needs), is not ok. Not only that, but the player list this game, most either new, newish, or returning players, don't need to hear it. Especially when a bunch just got out of a game, that ended early, due to this kind of behavior.

But sense you don't care, either because you truly believe in this foolishness, or because of what ever, possible explanation. I suppose I move on.

I was going to ask you a question about this post, But I too afird that you lash out on me because of it.





What about Kush last game?

On July 13 2016 06:52 LightningStrike wrote:
I had sent my own modkill request for me for my own behavior good bye just lynch voro maybe lynch KSC if you guys not comfortable on Voro. I was VT.

On July 13 2016 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:
To late the pm was already been sent now I must await my judgement from Onegu and the mod team.