How about an extra qt to continue talking about beer?
I've had belgian wheat beer and the initial taste is perfect, can't say it steadily provides a harmonious balance throughout though, as opposed to german wheat bear. I regularly consume Paulaner, Franziskaner, Weihenstephaner, Valentins, Schneiderweisse, Maiselsweisse etc.
On July 05 2016 10:58 sicklucker wrote: who are we killing today?
I think the ideal lynch candidate should meet these two criteria: 1. in the bottom five players in terms of post count and word count. 2. unlikely to be replaced or modkilled due to inactivity/not voting.
On July 05 2016 19:36 Palmar wrote: I'm not buying this fake tone.
Koshi just ate a ban, could his "scummy fake tone" not be an "exaggerated nice tone"? Both would seem decidedly not real.
People don't change.
You sound serious. Koshi is a good town tho so I don't think this is enough of a judgement for a vote.
hahahhaahaha
See. I don't understand the difference between this shit and calling somebody a piece of shit cloned braindead monkey.
Both are done to piss somebody off.
Why is one allowed and the other not?
This is a good question.
WBG was allowed to call me shit during the entire game, kept calling me shit every chance he got, people like sicklucker and others found it hilarious and joined the party calling koshi shit.
but when Koshi was 100% right and got called the other guy out on his fucking shit.
people wanted to see Koshi modkilled
Makes sense.
makes sense.
are you going to let Palmar do this then VE? Or is it ok for Palmar to start this bullshit once more for an entire cycle till I explode?
Are you going to modkill yourself or Palmar now?
Again this bullshit. Trying to make me look like a fucking joker even towards new players which "respect" me for my reads. Fucking ridiculous.
Anyway. I am asking to get replaced as statement.
First time I ever will get replaced in a game.
Thank you Palmar.
well being mafia it was literally my job =]
Meh
On July 06 2016 01:28 VayneAuthority wrote: because thats rule #394 of the internet, if you use mean/bad words then you are angry irl and you are a meanie
if you insult people in a passive aggressive way you are witty and probably a wealthy businessman or doctor
Okay, apart from flavor the amusement in forum mafia depends entirely on interaction and there are numerous obstacles to be overcome, some of them not initially apparent.
It requires long-term attention, effort and nonchalance, but good luck realizing you're failing or making others fail at the 3rd requirement before it's too late to let it slide; nevertheless swearing and busting balls can make up a considerable percentage of the fun which tightening regulations on freedom of expression would dampen.
So with all this investment that we know this game is good at luring there's a high risk of the rewards falling short, even if you're victorious.
Once upset there's nothing worse than having to tiptoe on the edges of the rules of conduct in order to circumvent getting penalized while still communicating what is on one's mind with high fidelity to emotions. Some might be more talented at this than others but is this the skillset people want to exhibit in a game of mafia?
Fuck no, I think finding scum and manipulating town into mislynching townies while having a jolly time is, but if someone gets between you and your rewarding experience chances are that holding back will only creep up on you later.
On July 06 2016 02:41 Shapelog wrote: Wow these are getting shorter:
Page 11, Some of what Palmar says i want to actually consider real points, but then you have all his spam/troll posts so w/e.
On July 06 2016 01:03 Damdred wrote: I also think based on tone/playfulness I kinda want to tr Palmar here hrmmm.
So
Damdred Kush Ve Palmar
Super weak reasoning so far but it's a start of a town circle.
I am personally waiting for Kush to come back tonight to gather more info for a read on him. Mainly because idk his scum meta, asides from Noir, and that was ages ago. And I haven't been playing on OMGUS enough (or for all for that matter) to play scum Kush again.
VE is can understand from the tone POV. Kinda got a similar feel.
Palmar....Going to check the last game. Thanks for triggering him too.
Damdred, Narcissistic bastard.
On July 06 2016 01:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 06 2016 00:54 Palmar wrote:
On July 05 2016 20:04 Skynx wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:55 Palmar wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:36 Palmar wrote: I'm not buying this fake tone.
Koshi just ate a ban, could his "scummy fake tone" not be an "exaggerated nice tone"? Both would seem decidedly not real.
People don't change.
You sound serious. Koshi is a good town tho so I don't think this is enough of a judgement for a vote.
hahahhaahaha
See. I don't understand the difference between this shit and calling somebody a piece of shit cloned braindead monkey.
Both are done to piss somebody off.
Why is one allowed and the other not?
This is a good question.
WBG was allowed to call me shit during the entire game, kept calling me shit every chance he got, people like sicklucker and others found it hilarious and joined the party calling koshi shit.
but when Koshi was 100% right and got called the other guy out on his fucking shit.
people wanted to see Koshi modkilled
Makes sense.
makes sense.
are you going to let Palmar do this then VE? Or is it ok for Palmar to start this bullshit once more for an entire cycle till I explode?
Are you going to modkill yourself or Palmar now?
Again this bullshit. Trying to make me look like a fucking joker even towards new players which "respect" me for my reads. Fucking ridiculous.
Anyway. I am asking to get replaced as statement.
First time I ever will get replaced in a game.
Thank you Palmar.
Sorry Koshi.
Kush basically is a barely existing scum player IMO, he has a couple games probably that are ok. But generally super lucky doesn't push anything and has a hard time faking tone/content.
While I think it's early he at least had some thought process which I thought was good of him.
I'm not narcissistic though just honest teehee
Good to know, but can we transition out of meta into something more palpable now?
On July 06 2016 03:29 Vivax wrote: Related is badly worded. To put it simple you chain a lot of different stuff together and I read it as lack of emphasis and interest. I tend to be very extensive about an argument if I believe it's the right one, while you seem to talk about (figuratively speaking) dozens of different things that don't have much to do with each other.
You reply to DCW, reply something to RB, talk about kushs alignment, talk about Palmar, talk to Jinx, if I break down your post into parts.
I guess it feels...confusing? to me. Like your purpose is not to pursue who you think is mafia but just to reply to as many things as possible. I would like to call it scummy but I'm still on the fence.
It is interesting to compare these two, cause while Palmar does do the same thing (Damdred is scum/vote in Name, Koshi is scum/vote here.) they way they went about it is different.
One thing in name though, that he did more there then here, was push the damdred lynch. He might of made a joke post, but he was back on it. Aka, he was more focused on the lynch then joking.
Here, it is IMO different, almost reversed. While he is pushing a Koshi push here and there, he has a bunch of other posts in-between. Most of which are jokey, and while he does go back to the Koshi vote, It seems honestly more to piss off Koshi then anything else.
The damdred off vote also is less bitey then the switch to me in name.
On July 06 2016 03:37 prplhz wrote: I'm having a hard time convincing myself that Koshi is serious, but it seems like he is? I don't know I think sometimes there is a rule that we don't discuss modkills/bans/whatever and I think that's a good idea because it doesn't do anything for us.
I mean, lets not discuss if he should be modkilled or if Palmar went too far when he quoted a post and wrote "hahahahaha" (forgot how many "ha"s). Half the Sky and LightningStrike can handle that.
Seems townie that he gets so mad tho?
A lot of anal acoustics to only come up with a question about a possible meta argument at the end. Needless to say I don't like this post.
On July 06 2016 02:01 sicklucker wrote: like me and palmar knew you were right obv and came up with a plan to actively descredit you that game (see scum qt). No we didnt want you to get modkilled but apparently thats what sent you over the edge. For all you know palmrs mafia doing the same thing.
On July 06 2016 02:57 VayneAuthority wrote: I liked the first version of shape's post better where it was a bunch of gibberish. Seemed like a good way to statpad your filter.
My townreads are skynx and koshi.
zlhprp si raf os daer aifam ym
I was going to say: "it is suspicious VA only said something about 2 townreads and nothing about scumreads"
But then I read the last sentence and thought ok this is good.
But then I am still left wondering the reasoning behind the read.
On the other hand... I probably know what the reasoning is.
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.
Which scum games are you checking out?
I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.
No obv town based on tone for me yet.
What Palmar games you checking up on and what are your findings?
Generic mafia he's picking a lot of different targets which kinda sticks out. I don't think he ever genuinely tries to find scum. Holyflare he plays good, drawing a decisive line between tunelling and pushing scum correctly. Names are hard i think he contributes very litttle but town are so tunelled i think thats the only reason he wins. Much similar to Tumble from presidental election.
You might have given yourself and Palmar away, by coming up with this so quickly it's like Palmar told you.
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.
Which scum games are you checking out?
I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.
No obv town based on tone for me yet.
What Palmar games you checking up on and what are your findings?
Generic mafia he's picking a lot of different targets which kinda sticks out. I don't think he ever genuinely tries to find scum. Holyflare he plays good, drawing a decisive line between tunelling and pushing scum correctly. Names are hard i think he contributes very litttle but town are so tunelled i think thats the only reason he wins. Much similar to Tumble from presidental election.
You might have given yourself and Palmar away, by coming up with this so quickly it's like Palmar told you.
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.
Which scum games are you checking out?
I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.
No obv town based on tone for me yet.
What Palmar games you checking up on and what are your findings?
Generic mafia he's picking a lot of different targets which kinda sticks out. I don't think he ever genuinely tries to find scum. Holyflare he plays good, drawing a decisive line between tunelling and pushing scum correctly. Names are hard i think he contributes very litttle but town are so tunelled i think thats the only reason he wins. Much similar to Tumble from presidental election.
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Yeah I didn't, I let my feelings influence me, and WIFOM defense just poured out.
And,
Which scum games are you checking out?-Dammy
On July 06 2016 01:53 sicklucker wrote: oh wait im getting ve and va confused. fuck those guys
Wait..... Oh.
I thought they were the same person :/
Well....Shit. Guess I actually need to go back after this and make sure I actually know who posted what.
On July 06 2016 01:59 Skynx wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:27 Damdred wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.
I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.
Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.
Which scum games are you checking out?
I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.
No obv town based on tone for me yet.
Then what is the point of reading the past games, if you going to psych out due to winrate. I guess I am god scum, since i have lost no scum games? And I cannot be town read due to meta right?
Honestly, might be better just to read the thread and try finding it out via content buddy.
On July 06 2016 02:06 Palmar wrote: I can't tell guys, is Koshi mad again? Did I make him mad again?
On July 06 2016 02:12 Palmar wrote: also reminder that getting replaced without a valid reason is banlist material, so we have another fun game to look forward to in that thread.
Please not a shit fight.
I honestly am tired of those, they don't help town, they barely help the coummity laugh, Most of the time has Koshi in it for god knows reasoning, etc.
Like the last quote, I think a Valid reasoning, aka harassment, is Valid, if not a actually Legal reasoning for lawsuits, no?
Seriously, this site is so fucking bad for those it is disgusting. I know I prob. got into a one or two, but I do not think I was justified, nor should anyone.
Reminds me of this:
Even though it is Youtube Drama Channels.
What content? We have like 5 pages in 20 hours... I checked names are hard, holyflare, generic and storm I think. All very briefly. Man you're overanalysing things if thats like right thing to say. You've all prolly played with eachother quite a lot minus RB i guess and thats why Palmar can scumread two people with single posts. I'm trying to familiarise myself with everyone's plays cuz i think for some people it is very obvious.
I don't mean now, I just mean in general. Meta only gets you so far, and can fuck you in the late game/lylo (sorry kush)
What am I over analyzing? If you have read X Reason to Town read Palmar based off of what you read, you shouldn't be psyched out by a win rate. Especially for your next point, where you said that we have played with each other before. We could tell you if your point stands or not with our knowledge.
You also do realize that Palmar has voted 2 people, 1 based off of fake tone, and the other cuz he is damdred right?
And yes, it can be obv is someone is playing different (aka scum) but even if you read their games, it will be harder if you haven't played. Not impossible, but still harder. IF you really want to, sure. As you said, the game is kinda slow. But if you have a reasoning like with Palmar, say it. Maybe add at the bottom "I've noticed that Palmar wins a lot. So it has me worried." to express it.
Well it is a tell for some people, Palmar may not be such case. However in anyway i dunno how to make other reads in a such lazy game so far. My point on he wins a lot as scum is a bit stupid i kinda see it now. I'm not psyched out by it tho.
Well, let's generate some content, no?
What is your current read on Palmar, based off of everything you have read and seen, and why? Who is your top suspect right now? In Total WarHammer, Should I Attack the Orcs first or The VC first as Dwarfs?
On July 06 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote: Koshi can go into town pile anyway just because hes reading and seems relaxed in his talking.
Damdred Koshi Ve Palmar Kush
@shape idk I didn't really pay attention to noir I don't think I played in it. But my experience with Kush is the opposite. I will reevaluate as I go obviously.
Honestly its not good thought process, and its not a good town read on kush at all. I just don't like scum reading kush and anytime I see him put effort into a game or that he thought about what he was doing in any way i just plop him in town pile for the day and then look at him later.
And i'm not familar with noir and I really dont' feel like reading another game at present so i'll just take your guys word for it and hope kush shows up like he would normally do.
I could of swore you have read it. Anyways,
Just read his filter then? He died at the beginning of N1 due to modkill, and his filter is 2 pages IIRC. In this case, you really don't have to really read much anyways to see if my point (about him making content and tone) is right or not. That much you should be able to pick up after skimming.
On July 05 2016 19:36 Palmar wrote: I'm not buying this fake tone.
Koshi just ate a ban, could his "scummy fake tone" not be an "exaggerated nice tone"? Both would seem decidedly not real.
People don't change.
You sound serious. Koshi is a good town tho so I don't think this is enough of a judgement for a vote.
hahahhaahaha
See. I don't understand the difference between this shit and calling somebody a piece of shit cloned braindead monkey.
Both are done to piss somebody off.
Why is one allowed and the other not?
This is a good question.
WBG was allowed to call me shit during the entire game, kept calling me shit every chance he got, people like sicklucker and others found it hilarious and joined the party calling koshi shit.
but when Koshi was 100% right and got called the other guy out on his fucking shit.
people wanted to see Koshi modkilled
Makes sense.
makes sense.
are you going to let Palmar do this then VE? Or is it ok for Palmar to start this bullshit once more for an entire cycle till I explode?
Are you going to modkill yourself or Palmar now?
Again this bullshit. Trying to make me look like a fucking joker even towards new players which "respect" me for my reads. Fucking ridiculous.
Anyway. I am asking to get replaced as statement.
First time I ever will get replaced in a game.
Thank you Palmar.
well being mafia it was literally my job =]
Meh
On July 06 2016 01:28 VayneAuthority wrote: because thats rule #394 of the internet, if you use mean/bad words then you are angry irl and you are a meanie
if you insult people in a passive aggressive way you are witty and probably a wealthy businessman or doctor
Okay, apart from flavor the amusement in forum mafia depends entirely on interaction and there are numerous obstacles to be overcome, some of them not initially apparent.
It requires long-term attention, effort and nonchalance, but good luck realizing you're failing or making others fail at the 3rd requirement before it's too late to let it slide; nevertheless swearing and busting balls can make up a considerable percentage of the fun which tightening regulations on freedom of expression would dampen.
So with all this investment that we know this game is good at luring there's a high risk of the rewards falling short, even if you're victorious.
Once upset there's nothing worse than having to tiptoe on the edges of the rules of conduct in order to circumvent getting penalized while still communicating what is on one's mind with high fidelity to emotions. Some might be more talented at this than others but is this the skillset people want to exhibit in a game of mafia?
Fuck no, I think finding scum and manipulating town into mislynching townies while having a jolly time is, but if someone gets between you and your rewarding experience chances are that holding back will only creep up on you later.
See, Talking like zinyak isn't good.
You play SR4, zinyak is cool and you try talking like him, and this is what happens. You come out sounding all confusing and stuff. Bravo, Bravo *claps*
On July 06 2016 02:41 Shapelog wrote: Wow these are getting shorter:
Page 11, Some of what Palmar says i want to actually consider real points, but then you have all his spam/troll posts so w/e.
On July 06 2016 01:03 Damdred wrote: I also think based on tone/playfulness I kinda want to tr Palmar here hrmmm.
So
Damdred Kush Ve Palmar
Super weak reasoning so far but it's a start of a town circle.
I am personally waiting for Kush to come back tonight to gather more info for a read on him. Mainly because idk his scum meta, asides from Noir, and that was ages ago. And I haven't been playing on OMGUS enough (or for all for that matter) to play scum Kush again.
VE is can understand from the tone POV. Kinda got a similar feel.
Palmar....Going to check the last game. Thanks for triggering him too.
Damdred, Narcissistic bastard.
On July 06 2016 01:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 06 2016 00:54 Palmar wrote:
On July 05 2016 20:04 Skynx wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:55 Palmar wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:36 Palmar wrote: I'm not buying this fake tone.
Koshi just ate a ban, could his "scummy fake tone" not be an "exaggerated nice tone"? Both would seem decidedly not real.
People don't change.
You sound serious. Koshi is a good town tho so I don't think this is enough of a judgement for a vote.
hahahhaahaha
See. I don't understand the difference between this shit and calling somebody a piece of shit cloned braindead monkey.
Both are done to piss somebody off.
Why is one allowed and the other not?
This is a good question.
WBG was allowed to call me shit during the entire game, kept calling me shit every chance he got, people like sicklucker and others found it hilarious and joined the party calling koshi shit.
but when Koshi was 100% right and got called the other guy out on his fucking shit.
people wanted to see Koshi modkilled
Makes sense.
makes sense.
are you going to let Palmar do this then VE? Or is it ok for Palmar to start this bullshit once more for an entire cycle till I explode?
Are you going to modkill yourself or Palmar now?
Again this bullshit. Trying to make me look like a fucking joker even towards new players which "respect" me for my reads. Fucking ridiculous.
Anyway. I am asking to get replaced as statement.
First time I ever will get replaced in a game.
Thank you Palmar.
Sorry Koshi.
Kush basically is a barely existing scum player IMO, he has a couple games probably that are ok. But generally super lucky doesn't push anything and has a hard time faking tone/content.
While I think it's early he at least had some thought process which I thought was good of him.
I'm not narcissistic though just honest teehee
Good to know, but can we transition out of meta into something more palpable now?
It is interesting to compare these two, cause while Palmar does do the same thing (Damdred is scum/vote in Name, Koshi is scum/vote here.) they way they went about it is different.
One thing in name though, that he did more there then here, was push the damdred lynch. He might of made a joke post, but he was back on it. Aka, he was more focused on the lynch then joking.
Here, it is IMO different, almost reversed. While he is pushing a Koshi push here and there, he has a bunch of other posts in-between. Most of which are jokey, and while he does go back to the Koshi vote, It seems honestly more to piss off Koshi then anything else.
The damdred off vote also is less bitey then the switch to me in name.
Thoughts?
Okay shape is town too.
Why exactly? Cause I brought up a meta point, reached it prob. wasn't true, and ask for Opinion on it?
It is interesting to compare these two, cause while Palmar does do the same thing (Damdred is scum/vote in Name, Koshi is scum/vote here.) they way they went about it is different.
One thing in name though, that he did more there then here, was push the damdred lynch. He might of made a joke post, but he was back on it. Aka, he was more focused on the lynch then joking.
Here, it is IMO different, almost reversed. While he is pushing a Koshi push here and there, he has a bunch of other posts in-between. Most of which are jokey, and while he does go back to the Koshi vote, It seems honestly more to piss off Koshi then anything else.
The damdred off vote also is less bitey then the switch to me in name.
Thoughts?
Okay shape is town too.
I agree!
Don't you fucking dare add to this ridiculousness.
On July 06 2016 01:27 Damdred wrote: Zzz koshi almost confirms himself
On July 06 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote: Koshi can go into town pile anyway just because hes reading and seems relaxed in his talking.
Damdred Koshi Ve Palmar Kush
@shape idk I didn't really pay attention to noir I don't think I played in it. But my experience with Kush is the opposite. I will reevaluate as I go obviously.
Koshi from "almost confirmed" to "town pile anyway" in 2 hours?
This is just a list of people you've played the most with before. It's pretty underwhelming.
I don't think this is true in any sense of the word. I have played a lot with Koshi and Palmar.
Kush is hit and miss, VE is a seldom played with. And that Damdred fellow i just can't escape him or his bad posts.
As for that I at least have reads that I have in thread that people can talk about instead. What are your reads exactly prp?
I still think it's very true. Those are the people you play with the most and now you're just townreading them all and putting yourself on the list.
Skynx town, Koshi town. I prefer to keep my other reads to myself for now as they're more likely to change before deadline.
I mean you latterly posted that, f5, and posted another read, when you just said that you wouldn't. There appears to be a conflict of interests here. Well actually just logic too. I mean, If you said, "I have other reads, but they might change." that wouldn't be the problem, but you said that you were going to keep them to yourself.
On July 06 2016 04:57 Palmar wrote: btw koshi 100% fake rage and fake nice
Seems unlikely that we're lynching him today!
I'm just saying
rather lynch you anyway
Absolutely no way that's going to happen, even with lots of people sort of calling me scum.
If this is softing blue I can 100% totally lynch you.
If it isn't, I am awaiting you being a bacon of shining townieness light.
It's not, I'm vanilla. Why are you blue hunting though? And when have you ever seen me being a shining beacon of townieness light? What makes you think this game is going to be any different?
Anyway, I sort of want to lynch Race Bannon. I think his filter has a big post that says absolutely nothing. The rest are scattered remarks that looks like "I better contribute something!".
He also calls my post scum and then says he has no idea why Koshi would think I'm scum.
Then his tinfoil theory and Palmar calling him out on it. Normally, I'd say that tinfoil theories are townie but the way he reacts to being called out on it, by one of the people he's accusing of being scum. A scum read tells him his theory is tinfoily and he just says "Yea it's silly. But maybe it's true". Looks really bad to me.
##Vote Race Bannon
First off, If koshi is blue hunting, why isn't that scummy enough to vote for?
On July 06 2016 02:57 VayneAuthority wrote: I liked the first version of shape's post better where it was a bunch of gibberish. Seemed like a good way to statpad your filter.
My townreads are skynx and koshi.
zlhprp si raf os daer aifam ym
I was going to say: "it is suspicious VA only said something about 2 townreads and nothing about scumreads"
But then I read the last sentence and thought ok this is good.
But then I am still left wondering the reasoning behind the read.
On the other hand... I probably know what the reasoning is.
On July 06 2016 04:45 Race Bannon wrote: But instead of insinuating something you should ask imo
Now read Koshi post. Read it. Did it? Good?
Is it talking about you being scum, or VA's reasoning and logic on that post? It is VA's reasoning and logic, which included the scum read on you. It wasn't about if you were scum or not (though, Koshi has his own reasoning) it was about thoughts about VA's post.
And if you do not believe me, look at the follow up post. Why would RB ask koshi to ask you if you were scum?
A lot of what you are doing doesn't make sense, or is wrong info.
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