On July 08 2016 03:10 Palmar wrote:
This game is going down the drain fast.
This game is going down the drain fast.
Not anymore,
I am here.
Top Town motivator is going to move this thread!
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On July 08 2016 03:10 Palmar wrote: This game is going down the drain fast. Not anymore, I am here. Top Town motivator is going to move this thread! | ||
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While I catch up and make content magically flow, and write this guide on how to play mafia offsite. | ||
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On July 07 2016 07:26 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2016 07:25 Shapelog wrote: On July 07 2016 07:23 sicklucker wrote: On July 07 2016 07:22 Shapelog wrote: Why the hell did he post half of what he said..... Hell...Why did he post any of the stuff at all.... hes an idiot troll? do you not know va? thats why I was super mad we didnt just policy lynch him over me originally... Only thing I remember is him being someone we lynched in storm... I think? he claimed mafia roleblocker as an obvious joke?. Maybe I should give him some credit and say it was to save me who idiot towns were lynching for some reason Is that what he did in storm? On July 07 2016 07:29 Skynx wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2016 07:23 sicklucker wrote: On July 07 2016 07:22 Shapelog wrote: Why the hell did he post half of what he said..... Hell...Why did he post any of the stuff at all.... hes an idiot troll? do you not know va? thats why I was super mad we didnt just policy lynch him over me originally... I don't see a difference between him and what you did. Coming here just 40 mins to go and just turning tables upside down cuz you shouldn't get lynched cuz yada yada. I dunno if VA contributed at all but you didn't do much either. Last min switch from me to VA noted btw. Hell, you didn't even think I'm mafia anyway. Anyway big stuff coming tomorrow, nn. I be watching, while listening to my jazz. On July 07 2016 07:32 Skynx wrote: That's what I'm trying to say... this (Moosy style I'm gona call it) of safe D1 play I hate. You claim tracker to avoid getting lynched anyone can do that and now the role is useless, you only got yourself to blame for that. Expect moosy D1 style is to shit post the thread, while his apparently is to not play day 1. Anyways, he is uncced Tracker, so I am going according to logic, and not lynch the uncced tracker till CC. On July 07 2016 07:33 sicklucker wrote: and no I shouldnt have gotten lynched and everyone knows it. you guys just didnt scum hunt good enough and ran out of options. and thenm fucking decided on the worse of the two policy lynches Bro, Skynx/RB/Wasbi/Prp Prob don't know your meta for obv reasoning. KOshi thought you scum slipped, I barely know your meta And Bming us isn't helping anyone. It is just derailing the thread and allowing mafia to to degrade the atmosphere. Looking back, should we prob, of lynched Prp, maybe, But is lynching the guy who came back and did nothing other then jokely claim mafia a really lost anyway? On July 07 2016 07:38 Koshi wrote: Is this mafia on mafia? Like... Is prplhz mad at sicklucker because sicklucker doesn't save himself and prplhz has to show face. Funny fact. sicklucker already swapped so this was even out of line completely. Really funny fact. This kind of passion is more likely to come from town than mafia. So if we lynch sicklucker and he flips town, prplhz is almost always 100% confirmed town. It all depends like you said on what they (sl) flips. But, it reminds me of you shouting a bit when I was doc in Name, though tbf, that was different (WBG vote vs here). On July 07 2016 08:40 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: WATCHLIST (4 Shapelog) 5 DCWasabi 7 VisceraEyes 8 Race Bannon 10 Damdred 13 Vivax Nice list Bro. This is underwhelming even from you. Like, Kush doesn't just post useless reads list 24/7, he also posts. Psy? Did u hack Kush's account Psy? Anyways, in other news, I do a proper Shape read list later. But, I have to check Prp. Eailer in the day, the number of vote swings, + people being fine to lynch him, makes me think he is town. But then the sudden vote on SL out of nowhere, reinforces my idea that he is scum. I will admit though, some of his latest posts are good. Race bannon is useless ghost as I've read it. Please do something remotely useful. Anything, at all. Wasbai hasn't sticked at all in my mind. Koshi has kinda made it to where he is town for me, SL is town (unless CC) Vivax/Damdred/Palmar/Skynx is going to be looked at. Kush is underwhelming in my opinion. VE is trying to reassure me without actually doing shit. Is that everyone? the smooth jazz is nulling my senses. | ||
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On July 08 2016 03:46 Skynx wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2016 03:34 Shapelog wrote: On July 07 2016 07:26 sicklucker wrote: On July 07 2016 07:25 Shapelog wrote: On July 07 2016 07:23 sicklucker wrote: On July 07 2016 07:22 Shapelog wrote: Why the hell did he post half of what he said..... Hell...Why did he post any of the stuff at all.... hes an idiot troll? do you not know va? thats why I was super mad we didnt just policy lynch him over me originally... Only thing I remember is him being someone we lynched in storm... I think? he claimed mafia roleblocker as an obvious joke?. Maybe I should give him some credit and say it was to save me who idiot towns were lynching for some reason Is that what he did in storm? On July 07 2016 07:29 Skynx wrote: On July 07 2016 07:23 sicklucker wrote: On July 07 2016 07:22 Shapelog wrote: Why the hell did he post half of what he said..... Hell...Why did he post any of the stuff at all.... hes an idiot troll? do you not know va? thats why I was super mad we didnt just policy lynch him over me originally... I don't see a difference between him and what you did. Coming here just 40 mins to go and just turning tables upside down cuz you shouldn't get lynched cuz yada yada. I dunno if VA contributed at all but you didn't do much either. Last min switch from me to VA noted btw. Hell, you didn't even think I'm mafia anyway. Anyway big stuff coming tomorrow, nn. I be watching, while listening to my jazz. On July 07 2016 07:32 Skynx wrote: That's what I'm trying to say... this (Moosy style I'm gona call it) of safe D1 play I hate. You claim tracker to avoid getting lynched anyone can do that and now the role is useless, you only got yourself to blame for that. Expect moosy D1 style is to shit post the thread, while his apparently is to not play day 1. Anyways, he is uncced Tracker, so I am going according to logic, and not lynch the uncced tracker till CC. On July 07 2016 07:33 sicklucker wrote: and no I shouldnt have gotten lynched and everyone knows it. you guys just didnt scum hunt good enough and ran out of options. and thenm fucking decided on the worse of the two policy lynches Bro, Skynx/RB/Wasbi/Prp Prob don't know your meta for obv reasoning. KOshi thought you scum slipped, I barely know your meta And Bming us isn't helping anyone. It is just derailing the thread and allowing mafia to to degrade the atmosphere. Looking back, should we prob, of lynched Prp, maybe, But is lynching the guy who came back and did nothing other then jokely claim mafia a really lost anyway? On July 07 2016 07:38 Koshi wrote: On July 07 2016 07:00 prplhz wrote: FUCKING CHANGE SICKLUCKER YOU SHIT Is this mafia on mafia? Like... Is prplhz mad at sicklucker because sicklucker doesn't save himself and prplhz has to show face. Funny fact. sicklucker already swapped so this was even out of line completely. Really funny fact. This kind of passion is more likely to come from town than mafia. So if we lynch sicklucker and he flips town, prplhz is almost always 100% confirmed town. It all depends like you said on what they (sl) flips. But, it reminds me of you shouting a bit when I was doc in Name, though tbf, that was different (WBG vote vs here). On July 07 2016 08:40 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: WATCHLIST (4 Shapelog) 5 DCWasabi 7 VisceraEyes 8 Race Bannon 10 Damdred 13 Vivax Nice list Bro. This is underwhelming even from you. Like, Kush doesn't just post useless reads list 24/7, he also posts. Psy? Did u hack Kush's account Psy? Anyways, in other news, I do a proper Shape read list later. But, I have to check Prp. Eailer in the day, the number of vote swings, + people being fine to lynch him, makes me think he is town. But then the sudden vote on SL out of nowhere, reinforces my idea that he is scum. I will admit though, some of his latest posts are good. Race bannon is useless ghost as I've read it. Please do something remotely useful. Anything, at all. Wasbai hasn't sticked at all in my mind. Koshi has kinda made it to where he is town for me, SL is town (unless CC) Vivax/Damdred/Palmar/Skynx is going to be looked at. Kush is underwhelming in my opinion. VE is trying to reassure me without actually doing shit. Is that everyone? the smooth jazz is nulling my senses. Claim doesn't mean much imo. We might not necessarily have a tracker and other roles don't need to compensate for his laziness by cc'ing and exposing themselves. SL did nothing town indicative so far. Also plz qoute me some good haze posts. Ik claim doesn't mean much. But it still is a claim. And besides, and this is pure set up speculation, there should always be a Invest role + Protection role, or even 2 invest roles. And while yes, there might not be another Tracker (in the case of SL lieing) this is another Invest role. Further, If a Wanerder ever flips, it strongly helps the claim, as Wanerder + non tracker or watcher (can watcher even be in this game?) would make no sense. So While you can be right, it also is still good idea to a least wait a bit before it. Nor did I say they should CC now either Sky. I said 1 before Lylo (or is what I meant if i didn't type that.) as for prp, it is more so it i feel like it comes from a townie POV then a Mafia POV. And has to do with this post. On July 07 2016 08:46 prplhz wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2016 08:33 Vivax wrote: On July 07 2016 08:29 prplhz wrote: On July 07 2016 08:16 Vivax wrote: Prplhz answer me this please. How did you get from VE to a guy he's voting when you were super sure of SL being scum previously? To save sicklucker. nothing there that should make him confirmed town to you. Claiming 1-shot-roles is the safest claim mafia can make. So I don't see how you would have the confidence he's town so suddenly. His claim and how he acted, the frustrations, just seemed town and VayneAuthority didn't look like he even cared what was going on when half of town was super confused and the other half was wrong. Would certainly rather have sicklucker around tomorrow than VayneAuthority. I think scum, especially someone putting as little effort into the game as sicklucker appears to be doing, would just have taken something from the sample PMs. He also claimed a little too close to the deadline. I don't know, it all screams town. The only reason I even called him scum was because I didn't see his role in the OP so I thought he was lying. It would be, extremely easy for mafia to push SL (assuming SL is indeed Tracker) here because you/koshi/others all shared sus. towards SL. A course, if SL ever flips scum, this is moot, but instead of taking that route, he took the other one. I might be overthinking this, and it really isn't much, but it did make me think. Not to say he is off the table or anything. Also I noticed this, On July 07 2016 13:02 Damdred wrote: I've got my reads and what town should do ready I'm going to post it tommorow when I wake up so I sont miss EOD. Anyone have any questions in theeantime just ask away I'll get to it when I get up. Post them now bro. | ||
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On July 08 2016 03:50 Skynx wrote: Man reading sl filter actually makes me angry I'm gona comeback after fitness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3_tw44QsZQ | ||
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3_tw44QsZQ Now, to the reads. Town: SL: Unless CC happens, Will remain here for obv reasoning, and for the fact I had to argue for the last Tracker that claimed that this was the optimal play to the entire thread. *rolls eyes* Habo y u so scummy. Koshi: I might reenvulate later, but he has done enough Koshi things to get off my radar. This read prob. makes no sense what so ever if you are have no clue about Koshi's meta. To which I say, Special tactics. Town leans: Dammy: IF Sl flips Tracker, then he will be higher (as he could of just sat on SL wagon). That read list he posted was pretty good IMO. I was kinad worried, because I couldn't remember anything he did this game what so ever, and thought he wasn't sticking out or anything. A dive later, fixed my issues. I also kinda got the same reads as he did (2nd to last person to read on the this list btw.) which is good. Only thing I noticed, was that the RB read went from no lynch to Top scum basically. Reads do change though, but would like to hear his voice behind it. Skynx: I was wrong on what I thought was a slip. The rest of Sky's filter is pretty good (I.E. he is actually out preforming others I feel) in terms of content creation. I have him as Town lean for now, since I still have some sus. towards him, but I think it is just me being my Tinfoil self. Null (no order): Vivax: No, I do not consider him townie. It isn't because there isn't townie things in his filter sure, or anything doing logic. My gut just is stopping me for some reasoning to put him higher. I normally don't listen to it, but it won't hurt to in this case. Vivax, meta wise, will prove himself anyways at a later date anyways Palmar:Barely can tell what his thoughts are on the game is. The excuse will restrict his time too. Ultimately, nothing there to really make me lean a certain way for him at all. If he is dead weight like at D3 or something, and you have a lynch to spare, do it. Otherwise, if he becomes useful, actually consider what he says. DCWasbi: A lot of what he is talking about base around a Kush/prp Combo. Bothers me slightly too, considering this part: And, I did that post not because I strongly suspected Kush at the time (though I do think so now), but rather to gauge people's reactions and see who would be helpful. At that time there was no meaningful discussion going. Which when asked what he got from it, he responded with: No I didn't end up getting anything concrete from it, just some feelings. Game is hard. Inspector finch? Have u caught V yet? Going to ask him wtf those feelings are. Just getting something Strongly from this guy seems difficult. Overall, he is quite boring besides that and the reaction test thing and a bit clunky. I could/would Pressure him to get more info out of him at a later date. Leaving him as null, since i want to gather more info on him, and I am tired of putting bad reactions tests as a scum reasoning. + Show Spoiler + Hmm. actually, thinking about it, should he sus. VE or SL for their Town read on kush? Both, if you consider Kush as hard scum had quickly TR and stuck with that TR on kush. It hard to tell due to him reaction testing though. VE(would lynch rn): Tempting to put him lower, but I really have no reason other then a few activity issues. From what he posted, I cannot gather a solid read on him. I kinda find it weird, that he makes these types of posts: On July 05 2016 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote: Hi ho neighboroonies. Celebrating 4th so just know I'm town and thinking of all of you individually with fondness. On July 06 2016 06:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Morning people. I wasn't expecting 5 pages in my sleep, gj frands!!! On July 07 2016 17:51 VisceraEyes wrote: Jesus fucking Christ that vote thread. -.- Guys I'm sorry I wasn't here for lynch. I honestly didn't realize it was so early, but it wouldn't have mattered because I haven't checked this game at all since I left. I'm sure you're all mad or think I'm mafia or whatever, but the simple truth is I just wasn't here. I'll try and make it up to you town. Because I love you. I love you more than I love myself right now. And if anyone knows me, they know that's a lot. *shudders* Feel like he is trying to ask us out. But it just feels weird that he keeps making these types of posts, and with the last one, doesn't do anything. Can easily be scum, I just don't have enough reasoning at this point to have a case or anything strong enough to warrant a lean. Scum leans: Kush: Maybe should be in the Null Range, but he needs to be more useful aka I expect a bit more out of him. His filter overall is quite lacking in any content, and looking back, he stop pushing his wanted lynch (wasbi) really when he came back near EOD. However, VA was someone he sus. So nothing major really in terms of disconnect in reads. And seeing his lynch not being up there could explain it maybe? Idk, kinda feel like he would try to push it a bit even with A VA lynch. So for Low Content/that, I put him here. Would love to here him explain this new watch list. It is so New! Prp:You should know by now why he is here (or at least on my radar). He is at lean/scumville for me. Looking back, the reasoning I had to think Prp could be town for votes was a bit weak looking back IMO. And while he can redeem himself, Like anyone on this list, he needs to do more. That last post I quoted kinda made me think he could be town as well. But honestly, there is more point to him being scum right now then anything else. + Show Spoiler + Also prophetically, even though I didn't do this list based off assoctiveness, Prp could be more town if RB flips scum. Scum Redbannon:I really do not like him. 1st thing first, is this whole Idea I was white knighting him. I could maybe expect him to think that, due to how hard I went after Prp. But it doesn't add up. In fact, it honestly feels to me like a buddy attempt (which I will admit, I might be biased) And this is a part of it I like the most. On July 07 2016 05:12 Race Bannon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2016 05:06 Shapelog wrote: On July 07 2016 05:01 Race Bannon wrote: Reads. Town Koshi: rage fit seemed genuine Palmar: confrontational and stuff Shapelog: something I may or may not have said earlier. Could be backstabing me after initial whiteknighting but I don't think so. Would lynch anyone else, will be here for the deadline madness. ? Da fuq are u talking about? You keep insisting I protected you, when I didn't....? Or did I missed something? On July 07 2016 05:01 Vivax wrote: I just voted prplhz. Let's see if people who get scumread a lot but only voted little tend to flip mafia. I prob. join too, just want to go through everyone. Nothing he has done today makes me feel any different then I did yesterday. You dissected prplhz's case and revealed its flawed everything in a way which seemed like you wanted to help him overcome his errors, without calling him scum which I think is a towntell, but now you vote him and it makes me wander why you didn't let me address it first. I was going to ignore it, but your lack of curiosity for my reaction seems disturbing. How do you scumhunt? Ok, so he is now sus. of me for this right? Ok fine and cool. I don't mind, I know the answer and stuff. But lets follow his posts here for a second. He makes a post after this, about getting me and vivax confused right? fine again. Nothing wrong what so ever. On July 07 2016 05:16 Race Bannon wrote: @shape I'm not solid on who to vote so if you want my power you can ask for it. Ummm? Odd looking back, since he was sus. of me, but maybe he cha... On July 07 2016 05:30 Race Bannon wrote: 1. Why didn't you let me react to prplz's case? 2. Who do you want to lynch and do you need help from me? Welp. And even this post, it seems weird. He seems to be questioning my play, yet, allowing me to ask for if I want him to sheep me? It doesn't add up. And then when I answer all his questions. On July 07 2016 05:40 Race Bannon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2016 05:38 Shapelog wrote: On July 07 2016 05:30 Race Bannon wrote: 1. Why didn't you let me react to prplz's case? 2. Who do you want to lynch and do you need help from me? Because I saw the contradiction and wanted to point it out. And TBH, at like w/e that post came out i really didn't think "Wait let RB answer it." as I was in a mafia mood after spamming a obs thread for the last 2 hours. Plus, you were offline (IIRC? too lazy to check) or already posted something at him. Basically a knee-jerk 2. Prp is up there. Vote swing was a bit questionable tbh (as in 2 -> 5 votes in less then a hour) so that has been on my mind. SL I am indifferent, U i need to look at, Wasbi is a gamble IMO, and I rather have another day (if I don't die) to gather info on him. VA i could. Basically Prp is prehaps lowering due to vote logic atm, VA, SL is mine And no, you vote for urself. u so town brah His reaction is this. It makes me wonder if he was mafia, and seeing if I would screw up at all to push me. But that doesn't make sense because of a asking to sheep basically. Overall, it doesn't make sense. Outside of that, these are pretty damming too. On July 06 2016 04:52 Race Bannon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2016 03:58 Skynx wrote: On July 06 2016 03:47 prplhz wrote: On July 06 2016 01:59 Skynx wrote: On July 06 2016 01:27 Damdred wrote: On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote: I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good. I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb. Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me. Which scum games are you checking out? I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum. No obv town based on tone for me yet. What Palmar games you checking up on and what are your findings? Generic mafia he's picking a lot of different targets which kinda sticks out. I don't think he ever genuinely tries to find scum. Holyflare he plays good, drawing a decisive line between tunelling and pushing scum correctly. Names are hard i think he contributes very litttle but town are so tunelled i think thats the only reason he wins. Much similar to Tumble from presidental election. You might have given yourself and Palmar away, by coming up with this so quickly it's like Palmar told you. Never does anything with this at all. So doesn't believe it I suppose. On July 07 2016 06:40 Race Bannon wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2016 06:38 prplhz wrote: I'd honestly lynch VisceraEyes right now. He isn't even here. Goggogo PRP WAS SCUM READ BY YOU, AND YOU ARE SUPPORT HIS LYNCH! WHY ARE YOU NOW SUPPORTING PRP'S TARGET?? I cannot begin to explain why this makes no sense what so ever on so many grounds. The person, who was sus. of Prp, and wanted to lynch him, now is pushing the lynch the that person wants? There is bond to be more, But I seen enough for me. Please (i am looking honestly at SL, Palmar, a bit of koshi.) Do not ruin the atmosphere. Yes, could people be wrong, yes. Could you be right, yes. Are people you, no. Watch the jazz video, or just take a break if mad. Ik I preached this way too much this game, but I honestly feel like we can win this game (and break my losing steak as town) as long as we don't get are heads stuck in our arse. I be here till Flip, Ask questions as always. 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On July 08 2016 05:35 Race Bannon wrote: And then he says sl is an idiot for playing the way he did and this is where i'm sure he's scum.. he says the mafia RB will make him useless and that's why he played badly. It's a slip .. now "Race bannon is useless ghost as I've read it. Please do something remotely useful. Anything, at all." Hmm, It could be, but not at the same time. RB is the most common mafia role people think of, and i can honestly see either alignment stating there is a RB, even though Framer is possible. It also could reflect his experience, as he never played in a game where RB wasn't standard. I could just see it either tbh. + Show Spoiler + I am actually going to be pissed if he did actually slip twice this game. | ||
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On July 08 2016 05:51 Race Bannon wrote: You asked me if I had any questions or something while you were busy doing your thing. And I said yeah and did a resume of scattered bits and pieces of my thoughts with regard to you, so I asked what was relevant. If you wanted to be sheeped and why you didn't let me react to the case. You assume that if I have a townread I'm just going to blindly follow through with it instead of poking it from time to time for the sake of consolidarion? You're wrong I understand (prob. better then anyone) about looking at your TR's. That I do not have a problem, nor, did I ever say that was the problem. The prob. is that, for me, there seems to be a disconnect of interest. One reason (the react to the case) seem like you sus. me because of it, hell, it really does sound like you sus me of it. But then, you ask me if I wanted you to sheep me, which makes no sense if you were actually sus. of me. I have no problem you attacking TR's here and there, My problem is that. On July 08 2016 05:58 Race Bannon wrote: I didn't even register it was prplhz, I just saw lynch VE .. and was like phuck yeah let's do it for the buzz, srsly. How did you not even see who was pushing it? Let alone, why even push that lynch to begin with, if at the time, your top pick (I feel) for scum (prp) was getting voted for? On July 08 2016 06:02 Race Bannon wrote: I know I didn't do shit day1, so I could tell my reads were superficial if at all existent. So I thought why not be a clown in the circus and see where it leads, luckily opportunistic Skynx was there to try and get a mislynch on who I'm pretty sure is the tracker and now I feel on top of my game. Koshi (also) was pushing for SL death as well. U don't think he could be scum, and pushing a ML either? | ||
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Lol, Honestly, my goal this game is to be good enough to get Night killed. @Damdred On July 07 2016 06:51 Damdred wrote: I'm trying to save our claimed blue I mean VA is a null read for me I just don't want the blue to die tbh and unless we move to haze who I don't want to Lynch it's our option today. It doesn't have a comma, tho. On July 08 2016 06:06 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Shapelog, can't you just like trust me? Kush I never Trust you when I roll town, and only trust you as scum as long as you are not a ML. | ||
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On July 08 2016 06:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: cause im cop. and i got a red check on you. Please, You being a cop (ever) is about as likely to happen as me maining protoss lol | ||
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On July 08 2016 06:10 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: How much towncred does taking shapelog and rb off my scumlist buy me? I'm trying to buddy you guys and buddy's aren't supposed to scumread each other. 5 DCWasabi 7 VisceraEyes 8 Race Bannon 10 Damdred 13 Vivax Lol, I thought it was a watch list? And Race isn't even off the list. | ||
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Guess I move that Null read to Town and close all the Celebrating Gifs for if was to die. | ||
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On July 08 2016 07:45 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2016 07:43 Shapelog wrote: Are you guys, honestly, blue speculating/blue hunting in thread? (minus Kush cause I get that it was a joke) im dead serious. Are you guys, honestly, blue speculating/blue hunting in thread? | ||
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