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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 17:10 GMT
#431
On July 06 2016 05:26 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2016 05:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 06 2016 05:03 prplhz wrote:
On July 06 2016 05:02 Palmar wrote:
On July 06 2016 05:00 prplhz wrote:
On July 06 2016 04:57 Palmar wrote:
btw koshi 100% fake rage and fake nice

Seems unlikely that we're lynching him today!

I'm just saying

rather lynch you anyway

Absolutely no way that's going to happen, even with lots of people sort of calling me scum.

If this is softing blue I can 100% totally lynch you.

If it isn't, I am awaiting you being a bacon of shining townieness light.

It's not, I'm vanilla. Why are you blue hunting though? And when have you ever seen me being a shining beacon of townieness light? What makes you think this game is going to be any different?

Anyway, I sort of want to lynch Race Bannon. I think his filter has a big post that says absolutely nothing. The rest are scattered remarks that looks like "I better contribute something!".

He also calls my post scum and then says he has no idea why Koshi would think I'm scum.

Then his tinfoil theory and Palmar calling him out on it. Normally, I'd say that tinfoil theories are townie but the way he reacts to being called out on it, by one of the people he's accusing of being scum. A scum read tells him his theory is tinfoily and he just says "Yea it's silly. But maybe it's true". Looks really bad to me.

##Vote Race Bannon

Man yours is exactly the same minus that big post that says absolutely nothing, up to here at least.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 17:21 GMT
#433
On July 06 2016 14:12 DCWasabi wrote:
##vote prplhz

I am reading prplhz as scum. Kush says that prplhz doesn't have low activity this game, but if you look at his posts, they aren't too useful.

Furthermore, the following post is suspicious:
"I'm having a hard time convincing myself that Koshi is serious, but it seems like he is? I don't know I think sometimes there is a rule that we don't discuss modkills/bans/whatever and I think that's a good idea because it doesn't do anything for us.

I mean, lets not discuss if he should be modkilled or if Palmar went too far when he quoted a post and wrote "hahahahaha" (forgot how many "ha"s). Half the Sky and LightningStrike can handle that.

Seems townie that he gets so mad tho?"


If you don't want to discuss modkills and bans and want to leave the hosting to the hosts, then why are you bringing this up?
Especially after the topic was several pages back and pretty much dropped already...
This kind of post could be intended to induce the town into more spamming/fighting/shit-talking and less actual mafia-hunting.
Seems unnecessarily distracting.

Earlier he was kind of town-reading Koshi, but in a way that makes your head asplode.
"Why would someone (KOoshi), as mafia, think it's a good idea to be nicer than he usually is? As mafia, you usually try to act like you usually do, and Koshi usually doesn't try to be nice (and he knows this)?"

In fact, almost all of his posts are related to Koshi, even though I haven't seen much in the way of people suggesting that Koshi is scum.
Is he actually just obsessed with Koshi for some reason, or perhaps trying to associate himself with a strong town player that most people are town-reading (who he KNOWS is town)?

Man this is so weak, I mean he voted RB before you posted this but you say he's obsessed with Koshi? In fact if you pointed that out your push would kinda make sense but how can you miss that?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 17:42 GMT
#436
19 is super shady lol there is at least 1 scum here.
On July 06 2016 18:03 prplhz wrote:
eh okay

##Vote sicklucker

This comes out of absolutely nothing. Why you vote sl other than the fact that Palmar wants to lynch him?

On July 06 2016 19:05 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I'll vote sl if I have time to switch my vote

Pretty much the same. You're at least more constructed than haze but you show no actual reason between your two scum lists on why you put sl there, anything to say?

On July 06 2016 19:48 sicklucker wrote:
I never have any say in day 1 votes. Thats why I was saying that ironic line. Ironicly with all these new players this might have been the first game in like 30 games where my day 1 actions lead to anything productive. Doubt ill have much time tomorrow tho but lynching me is terrible.

Like im pretty annoyed because I should get a day two pass in this game so I dont like how the votes are converging on me. I never do anything day one ever. Like ever meta wise. Also been killin it so dont think im a great day 1 shot in the dark lynch ever because I have time and time again proven my townieness with time

This is lame aswell. If people have reason to vote for you then it's fair for them to lynch you but instead of asking for those reasons you just defend yourself by claiming "I'm afk D1 but i'm usually good town so just gimme a pass". I thought Moosy wasn't playing this game. Very lazy reasoning I'm so tempted to vote for you.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 17:43 GMT
#440
On July 07 2016 02:39 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 02:21 Skynx wrote:
On July 06 2016 14:12 DCWasabi wrote:
##vote prplhz

I am reading prplhz as scum. Kush says that prplhz doesn't have low activity this game, but if you look at his posts, they aren't too useful.

Furthermore, the following post is suspicious:
"I'm having a hard time convincing myself that Koshi is serious, but it seems like he is? I don't know I think sometimes there is a rule that we don't discuss modkills/bans/whatever and I think that's a good idea because it doesn't do anything for us.

I mean, lets not discuss if he should be modkilled or if Palmar went too far when he quoted a post and wrote "hahahahaha" (forgot how many "ha"s). Half the Sky and LightningStrike can handle that.

Seems townie that he gets so mad tho?"


If you don't want to discuss modkills and bans and want to leave the hosting to the hosts, then why are you bringing this up?
Especially after the topic was several pages back and pretty much dropped already...
This kind of post could be intended to induce the town into more spamming/fighting/shit-talking and less actual mafia-hunting.
Seems unnecessarily distracting.

Earlier he was kind of town-reading Koshi, but in a way that makes your head asplode.
"Why would someone (KOoshi), as mafia, think it's a good idea to be nicer than he usually is? As mafia, you usually try to act like you usually do, and Koshi usually doesn't try to be nice (and he knows this)?"

In fact, almost all of his posts are related to Koshi, even though I haven't seen much in the way of people suggesting that Koshi is scum.
Is he actually just obsessed with Koshi for some reason, or perhaps trying to associate himself with a strong town player that most people are town-reading (who he KNOWS is town)?

Man this is so weak, I mean he voted RB before you posted this but you say he's obsessed with Koshi? In fact if you pointed that out your push would kinda make sense but how can you miss that?


I did notice that, but I feel like the fact that he voted RB doesn't mean he is or isn't mafia.
If he is Mafia, then it is a smart play to cover up what is going on since there was little chance of RB being lynched as he wasn't being pushed hard.

If he is town, then I also find RB suspicious so that would make sense also.

Then question his RB vote please like wtf? Why not push it that way if you want to lynch him?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 17:51 GMT
#444
On July 07 2016 02:48 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 02:43 Skynx wrote:
On July 07 2016 02:39 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 07 2016 02:21 Skynx wrote:
On July 06 2016 14:12 DCWasabi wrote:
##vote prplhz

I am reading prplhz as scum. Kush says that prplhz doesn't have low activity this game, but if you look at his posts, they aren't too useful.

Furthermore, the following post is suspicious:
"I'm having a hard time convincing myself that Koshi is serious, but it seems like he is? I don't know I think sometimes there is a rule that we don't discuss modkills/bans/whatever and I think that's a good idea because it doesn't do anything for us.

I mean, lets not discuss if he should be modkilled or if Palmar went too far when he quoted a post and wrote "hahahahaha" (forgot how many "ha"s). Half the Sky and LightningStrike can handle that.

Seems townie that he gets so mad tho?"


If you don't want to discuss modkills and bans and want to leave the hosting to the hosts, then why are you bringing this up?
Especially after the topic was several pages back and pretty much dropped already...
This kind of post could be intended to induce the town into more spamming/fighting/shit-talking and less actual mafia-hunting.
Seems unnecessarily distracting.

Earlier he was kind of town-reading Koshi, but in a way that makes your head asplode.
"Why would someone (KOoshi), as mafia, think it's a good idea to be nicer than he usually is? As mafia, you usually try to act like you usually do, and Koshi usually doesn't try to be nice (and he knows this)?"

In fact, almost all of his posts are related to Koshi, even though I haven't seen much in the way of people suggesting that Koshi is scum.
Is he actually just obsessed with Koshi for some reason, or perhaps trying to associate himself with a strong town player that most people are town-reading (who he KNOWS is town)?

Man this is so weak, I mean he voted RB before you posted this but you say he's obsessed with Koshi? In fact if you pointed that out your push would kinda make sense but how can you miss that?


I did notice that, but I feel like the fact that he voted RB doesn't mean he is or isn't mafia.
If he is Mafia, then it is a smart play to cover up what is going on since there was little chance of RB being lynched as he wasn't being pushed hard.

If he is town, then I also find RB suspicious so that would make sense also.

Then question his RB vote please like wtf? Why not push it that way if you want to lynch him?


If you end up being town, (which I think you are), then I will take this as constructive criticism for the next game I play.

Oh I didn't knew you were new. Well, you don't have to wait until next game
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 17:57 GMT
#446
On July 07 2016 02:51 DCWasabi wrote:
Other than not mentioning the 1 thing you pointed out, is the argument weak, or do you agree with it?
Please tell me why it is weak.

It's weak because your 1st quote he's just chatting shit. Game hasn't picked up in pace at that point in time. People are generally talking about lots of random stuff so using it to scumread someone is weak as it doesn't tell anything about scum behavior. Shape was discussing Civ5 tactics as an example.

2nd quote is just meh. All that Koshi talk is just non-constructive anyway.

That being said I think haze is not necessarily town but not for the reasons you claim.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 18:01 GMT
#448
On July 06 2016 22:17 Koshi wrote:
what do you mean with your comment on both posts, use more words please:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2016 17:52 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 06 2016 08:09 Shapelog wrote:
On July 06 2016 03:58 Skynx wrote:
On July 06 2016 03:47 prplhz wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:59 Skynx wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:27 Damdred wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote:
I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.

I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.


Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.

Which scum games are you checking out?

I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.

No obv town based on tone for me yet.

What Palmar games you checking up on and what are your findings?

Generic mafia he's picking a lot of different targets which kinda sticks out. I don't think he ever genuinely tries to find scum.
Holyflare he plays good, drawing a decisive line between tunelling and pushing scum correctly.
Names are hard i think he contributes very litttle but town are so tunelled i think thats the only reason he wins. Much similar to Tumble from presidental election.

On July 06 2016 04:11 Skynx wrote:
On July 06 2016 03:54 Shapelog wrote:
On July 06 2016 03:42 Skynx wrote:
On July 06 2016 02:57 Shapelog wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote:
I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.

I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.

Yeah I didn't, I let my feelings influence me, and WIFOM defense just poured out.

And,
Which scum games are you checking out?-Dammy

On July 06 2016 01:53 sicklucker wrote:
oh wait im getting ve and va confused. fuck those guys

Wait.....
Oh.

I thought they were the same person :/

Well....Shit. Guess I actually need to go back after this and make sure I actually know who posted what.
On July 06 2016 01:59 Skynx wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:27 Damdred wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:20 Skynx wrote:
I dunno man I'm rly not into meta yet. Only played with you and kush before. Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.

I'm gona browse some scumgamea from everyone brb.


Eh I'm not really using meta necessarily more tone reads and small reasoning so far for me.

Which scum games are you checking out?

I didn't even knew what i was looking for but ended up just checking few Palmar games. I just don't wanna townread Palmar for some reason, it looks like he wins a lot as scum.

No obv town based on tone for me yet.

Then what is the point of reading the past games, if you going to psych out due to winrate.
I guess I am god scum, since i have lost no scum games? And I cannot be town read due to meta right?

Honestly, might be better just to read the thread and try finding it out via content buddy.
On July 06 2016 02:06 Palmar wrote:
I can't tell guys, is Koshi mad again? Did I make him mad again?

On July 06 2016 02:12 Palmar wrote:
also reminder that getting replaced without a valid reason is banlist material, so we have another fun game to look forward to in that thread.

Please not a shit fight.

I honestly am tired of those, they don't help town, they barely help the coummity laugh, Most of the time has Koshi in it for god knows reasoning, etc.

Like the last quote, I think a Valid reasoning, aka harassment, is Valid, if not a actually Legal reasoning for lawsuits, no?

Seriously, this site is so fucking bad for those it is disgusting. I know I prob. got into a one or two, but I do not think I was justified, nor should anyone.

Reminds me of this:

Even though it is Youtube Drama Channels.

What content? We have like 5 pages in 20 hours...
I checked names are hard, holyflare, generic and storm I think. All very briefly. Man you're overanalysing things if thats like right thing to say. You've all prolly played with eachother quite a lot minus RB i guess and thats why Palmar can scumread two people with single posts. I'm trying to familiarise myself with everyone's plays cuz i think for some people it is very obvious.

I don't mean now, I just mean in general. Meta only gets you so far, and can fuck you in the late game/lylo (sorry kush)

What am I over analyzing? If you have read X Reason to Town read Palmar based off of what you read, you shouldn't be psyched out by a win rate. Especially for your next point, where you said that we have played with each other before. We could tell you if your point stands or not with our knowledge.

You also do realize that Palmar has voted 2 people, 1 based off of fake tone, and the other cuz he is damdred right?

And yes, it can be obv is someone is playing different (aka scum) but even if you read their games, it will be harder if you haven't played. Not impossible, but still harder. IF you really want to, sure. As you said, the game is kinda slow. But if you have a reasoning like with Palmar, say it. Maybe add at the bottom "I've noticed that Palmar wins a lot. So it has me worried." to express it.

Well it is a tell for some people, Palmar may not be such case. However in anyway i dunno how to make other reads in a such lazy game so far.
My point on he wins a lot as scum is a bit stupid i kinda see it now. I'm not psyched out by it tho.

Well, let's generate some content, no?

What is your current read on Palmar, based off of everything you have read and seen, and why?
Who is your top suspect right now?
In Total WarHammer, Should I Attack the Orcs first or The VC first as Dwarfs?


On July 06 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote:
Koshi can go into town pile anyway just because hes reading and seems relaxed in his talking.

Damdred
Koshi
Ve
Palmar
Kush

@shape idk I didn't really pay attention to noir I don't think I played in it. But my experience with Kush is the opposite. I will reevaluate as I go obviously.


Honestly its not good thought process, and its not a good town read on kush at all. I just don't like scum reading kush and anytime I see him put effort into a game or that he thought about what he was doing in any way i just plop him in town pile for the day and then look at him later.

And i'm not familar with noir and I really dont' feel like reading another game at present so i'll just take your guys word for it and hope kush shows up like he would normally do.

I could of swore you have read it. Anyways,

Just read his filter then? He died at the beginning of N1 due to modkill, and his filter is 2 pages IIRC. In this case, you really don't have to really read much anyways to see if my point (about him making content and tone) is right or not. That much you should be able to pick up after skimming.

Also:

And that Damdred fellow i just can't escape him or his bad posts.

[image loading]


On July 06 2016 04:17 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:56 sicklucker wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 06 2016 00:54 Palmar wrote:
On July 05 2016 20:04 Skynx wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:55 Palmar wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
[quote]
Koshi just ate a ban, could his "scummy fake tone" not be an "exaggerated nice tone"? Both would seem decidedly not real.

People don't change.

You sound serious. Koshi is a good town tho so I don't think this is enough of a judgement for a vote.

hahahhaahaha

See. I don't understand the difference between this shit and calling somebody a piece of shit cloned braindead monkey.

Both are done to piss somebody off.

Why is one allowed and the other not?

This is a good question.

WBG was allowed to call me shit during the entire game, kept calling me shit every chance he got, people like sicklucker and others found it hilarious and joined the party calling koshi shit.

but when Koshi was 100% right and got called the other guy out on his fucking shit.

people wanted to see Koshi modkilled





Makes sense.


makes sense.





are you going to let Palmar do this then VE? Or is it ok for Palmar to start this bullshit once more for an entire cycle till I explode?

Are you going to modkill yourself or Palmar now?



Again this bullshit. Trying to make me look like a fucking joker even towards new players which "respect" me for my reads. Fucking ridiculous.




Anyway. I am asking to get replaced as statement.


First time I ever will get replaced in a game.


Thank you Palmar.


well being mafia it was literally my job =]


Meh

On July 06 2016 01:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
because thats rule #394 of the internet, if you use mean/bad words then you are angry irl and you are a meanie

if you insult people in a passive aggressive way you are witty and probably a wealthy businessman or doctor

Okay, apart from flavor the amusement in forum mafia depends entirely on interaction and there are numerous obstacles to be overcome, some of them not initially apparent.

It requires long-term attention, effort and nonchalance, but good luck realizing you're failing or making others fail at the 3rd requirement before it's too late to let it slide; nevertheless swearing and busting balls can make up a considerable percentage of the fun which tightening regulations on freedom of expression would dampen.

So with all this investment that we know this game is good at luring there's a high risk of the rewards falling short, even if you're victorious.

Once upset there's nothing worse than having to tiptoe on the edges of the rules of conduct in order to circumvent getting penalized while still communicating what is on one's mind with high fidelity to emotions. Some might be more talented at this than others but is this the skillset people want to exhibit in a game of mafia?

Fuck no, I think finding scum and manipulating town into mislynching townies while having a jolly time is, but if someone gets between you and your rewarding experience chances are that holding back will only creep up on you later.

See, Talking like zinyak isn't good.

You play SR4, zinyak is cool and you try talking like him, and this is what happens. You come out sounding all confusing and stuff. Bravo, Bravo *claps*

Leave zinyak to the voice actors kiddo.
On July 06 2016 04:20 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 06 2016 02:48 Damdred wrote:
On July 06 2016 02:41 Shapelog wrote:
Wow these are getting shorter:

Page 11, Some of what Palmar says i want to actually consider real points, but then you have all his spam/troll posts so w/e.

On July 06 2016 01:03 Damdred wrote:
I also think based on tone/playfulness I kinda want to tr Palmar here hrmmm.

So

Damdred
Kush
Ve
Palmar

Super weak reasoning so far but it's a start of a town circle.

I am personally waiting for Kush to come back tonight to gather more info for a read on him. Mainly because idk his scum meta, asides from Noir, and that was ages ago. And I haven't been playing on OMGUS enough (or for all for that matter) to play scum Kush again.

VE is can understand from the tone POV. Kinda got a similar feel.

Palmar....Going to check the last game. Thanks for triggering him too.

Damdred, Narcissistic bastard.
On July 06 2016 01:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 06 2016 00:54 Palmar wrote:
On July 05 2016 20:04 Skynx wrote:
On July 05 2016 19:55 Palmar wrote:
[quote]
People don't change.

You sound serious. Koshi is a good town tho so I don't think this is enough of a judgement for a vote.

hahahhaahaha

See. I don't understand the difference between this shit and calling somebody a piece of shit cloned braindead monkey.

Both are done to piss somebody off.

Why is one allowed and the other not?

This is a good question.

WBG was allowed to call me shit during the entire game, kept calling me shit every chance he got, people like sicklucker and others found it hilarious and joined the party calling koshi shit.

but when Koshi was 100% right and got called the other guy out on his fucking shit.

people wanted to see Koshi modkilled





Makes sense.


makes sense.





are you going to let Palmar do this then VE? Or is it ok for Palmar to start this bullshit once more for an entire cycle till I explode?

Are you going to modkill yourself or Palmar now?



Again this bullshit. Trying to make me look like a fucking joker even towards new players which "respect" me for my reads. Fucking ridiculous.




Anyway. I am asking to get replaced as statement.


First time I ever will get replaced in a game.


Thank you Palmar.

Sorry Koshi.


Kush basically is a barely existing scum player IMO, he has a couple games probably that are ok. But generally super lucky doesn't push anything and has a hard time faking tone/content.

While I think it's early he at least had some thought process which I thought was good of him.

I'm not narcissistic though just honest teehee

Good to know, but can we transition out of meta into something more palpable now?

Don't ask baby,
Just do.


On July 06 2016 04:22 Damdred wrote:
And honestly shape would be up there I'd played most lately with.

But idk shape needs to show me something because he's punked a couple of games lately. And fuck losing to shape again (no offense).

Race any reads so far?


Is that what I needed to show?


On July 06 2016 04:29 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 06 2016 03:31 Shapelog wrote:
Anyways, going to the Palmar meta point I keep Referencing.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509751-names-are-hard-mini-mafia?user=Palmar

It is interesting to compare these two, cause while Palmar does do the same thing (Damdred is scum/vote in Name, Koshi is scum/vote here.) they way they went about it is different.

One thing in name though, that he did more there then here, was push the damdred lynch. He might of made a joke post, but he was back on it. Aka, he was more focused on the lynch then joking.

Here, it is IMO different, almost reversed. While he is pushing a Koshi push here and there, he has a bunch of other posts in-between. Most of which are jokey, and while he does go back to the Koshi vote, It seems honestly more to piss off Koshi then anything else.

The damdred off vote also is less bitey then the switch to me in name.

Thoughts?

Okay shape is town too.

Why exactly? Cause I brought up a meta point, reached it prob. wasn't true, and ask for Opinion on it?
On July 06 2016 04:33 prplhz wrote:
On July 06 2016 04:29 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 06 2016 03:31 Shapelog wrote:
Anyways, going to the Palmar meta point I keep Referencing.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509751-names-are-hard-mini-mafia?user=Palmar

It is interesting to compare these two, cause while Palmar does do the same thing (Damdred is scum/vote in Name, Koshi is scum/vote here.) they way they went about it is different.

One thing in name though, that he did more there then here, was push the damdred lynch. He might of made a joke post, but he was back on it. Aka, he was more focused on the lynch then joking.

Here, it is IMO different, almost reversed. While he is pushing a Koshi push here and there, he has a bunch of other posts in-between. Most of which are jokey, and while he does go back to the Koshi vote, It seems honestly more to piss off Koshi then anything else.

The damdred off vote also is less bitey then the switch to me in name.

Thoughts?

Okay shape is town too.

I agree!

Don't you fucking dare add to this ridiculousness.

Oh wait you just contridcted yourself.

On July 06 2016 04:28 prplhz wrote:
On July 06 2016 04:18 Damdred wrote:
On July 06 2016 04:15 prplhz wrote:
On July 06 2016 01:27 Damdred wrote:
Zzz koshi almost confirms himself


On July 06 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote:
Koshi can go into town pile anyway just because hes reading and seems relaxed in his talking.

Damdred
Koshi
Ve
Palmar
Kush

@shape idk I didn't really pay attention to noir I don't think I played in it. But my experience with Kush is the opposite. I will reevaluate as I go obviously.



Koshi from "almost confirmed" to "town pile anyway" in 2 hours?

This is just a list of people you've played the most with before. It's pretty underwhelming.


I don't think this is true in any sense of the word. I have played a lot with Koshi and Palmar.

Kush is hit and miss, VE is a seldom played with. And that Damdred fellow i just can't escape him or his bad posts.

As for that I at least have reads that I have in thread that people can talk about instead. What are your reads exactly prp?

I still think it's very true. Those are the people you play with the most and now you're just townreading them all and putting yourself on the list.

Skynx town, Koshi town. I prefer to keep my other reads to myself for now as they're more likely to change before deadline.


I mean you latterly posted that, f5, and posted another read, when you just said that you wouldn't. There appears to be a conflict of interests here. Well actually just logic too. I mean, If you said, "I have other reads, but they might change." that wouldn't be the problem, but you said that you were going to keep them to yourself.
On July 06 2016 05:26 prplhz wrote:
On July 06 2016 05:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 06 2016 05:03 prplhz wrote:
On July 06 2016 05:02 Palmar wrote:
On July 06 2016 05:00 prplhz wrote:
On July 06 2016 04:57 Palmar wrote:
btw koshi 100% fake rage and fake nice

Seems unlikely that we're lynching him today!

I'm just saying

rather lynch you anyway

Absolutely no way that's going to happen, even with lots of people sort of calling me scum.

If this is softing blue I can 100% totally lynch you.

If it isn't, I am awaiting you being a bacon of shining townieness light.

It's not, I'm vanilla. Why are you blue hunting though? And when have you ever seen me being a shining beacon of townieness light? What makes you think this game is going to be any different?

Anyway, I sort of want to lynch Race Bannon. I think his filter has a big post that says absolutely nothing. The rest are scattered remarks that looks like "I better contribute something!".

He also calls my post scum and then says he has no idea why Koshi would think I'm scum.

Then his tinfoil theory and Palmar calling him out on it. Normally, I'd say that tinfoil theories are townie but the way he reacts to being called out on it, by one of the people he's accusing of being scum. A scum read tells him his theory is tinfoily and he just says "Yea it's silly. But maybe it's true". Looks really bad to me.

##Vote Race Bannon

First off, If koshi is blue hunting, why isn't that scummy enough to vote for?

Second, lets look at the Koshi point:
On July 06 2016 04:43 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 06 2016 03:53 Koshi wrote:
On July 06 2016 02:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
I liked the first version of shape's post better where it was a bunch of gibberish. Seemed like a good way to statpad your filter.

My townreads are skynx and koshi.

zlhprp si raf os daer aifam ym

I was going to say:
"it is suspicious VA only said something about 2 townreads and nothing about scumreads"

But then I read the last sentence and thought ok this is good.

But then I am still left wondering the reasoning behind the read.

On the other hand... I probably know what the reasoning is.

Ideas anybody?

Not really

On July 06 2016 04:45 Race Bannon wrote:
But instead of insinuating something you should ask imo

Now read Koshi post.
Read it.
Did it?
Good?

Is it talking about you being scum, or VA's reasoning and logic on that post? It is VA's reasoning and logic, which included the scum read on you. It wasn't about if you were scum or not (though, Koshi has his own reasoning) it was about thoughts about VA's post.

And if you do not believe me, look at the follow up post. Why would RB ask koshi to ask you if you were scum?

A lot of what you are doing doesn't make sense, or is wrong info.

Truth, at what cost though.


Show nested quote +
On July 06 2016 04:41 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 06 2016 03:47 Koshi wrote:
On July 06 2016 02:01 sicklucker wrote:
like me and palmar knew you were right obv and came up with a plan to actively descredit you that game (see scum qt). No we didnt want you to get modkilled but apparently thats what sent you over the edge. For all you know palmrs mafia doing the same thing.

Grow some skin

Wonder why he didn't type

"for all we know"


maybe it is nothing.

Hmm


Why did you stop playing like this? 3 strong opinions based off single posts:
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On July 06 2016 04:27 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 06 2016 03:29 Vivax wrote:
Related is badly worded. To put it simple you chain a lot of different stuff together and I read it as lack of emphasis and interest. I tend to be very extensive about an argument if I believe it's the right one, while you seem to talk about (figuratively speaking) dozens of different things that don't have much to do with each other.

You reply to DCW, reply something to RB, talk about kushs alignment, talk about Palmar, talk to Jinx, if I break down your post into parts.

I guess it feels...confusing? to me. Like your purpose is not to pursue who you think is mafia but just to reply to as many things as possible. I would like to call it scummy but I'm still on the fence.

Dunno about shape but I think this is a townie

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2016 04:29 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 06 2016 03:31 Shapelog wrote:
Anyways, going to the Palmar meta point I keep Referencing.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509751-names-are-hard-mini-mafia?user=Palmar

It is interesting to compare these two, cause while Palmar does do the same thing (Damdred is scum/vote in Name, Koshi is scum/vote here.) they way they went about it is different.

One thing in name though, that he did more there then here, was push the damdred lynch. He might of made a joke post, but he was back on it. Aka, he was more focused on the lynch then joking.

Here, it is IMO different, almost reversed. While he is pushing a Koshi push here and there, he has a bunch of other posts in-between. Most of which are jokey, and while he does go back to the Koshi vote, It seems honestly more to piss off Koshi then anything else.

The damdred off vote also is less bitey then the switch to me in name.

Thoughts?

Okay shape is town too.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2016 04:34 Race Bannon wrote:
On July 06 2016 03:37 prplhz wrote:
I'm having a hard time convincing myself that Koshi is serious, but it seems like he is? I don't know I think sometimes there is a rule that we don't discuss modkills/bans/whatever and I think that's a good idea because it doesn't do anything for us.

I mean, lets not discuss if he should be modkilled or if Palmar went too far when he quoted a post and wrote "hahahahaha" (forgot how many "ha"s). Half the Sky and LightningStrike can handle that.

Seems townie that he gets so mad tho?

A lot of anal acoustics to only come up with a question about a possible meta argument at the end. Needless to say I don't like this post.



I was gona point this out btw hi5!
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
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July 06 2016 18:05 GMT
#452
On July 07 2016 00:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 00:09 prplhz wrote:
Because no one wants to lynch Race Bannon?

what? how can you even say that. Nobody got more than 2 votes. You basically need 1 more vote except your own and he is the main wagon.

And I just made a post asking him questions.

And nobody is pushing anybody strong so it requires really minimal effort to get people on a Race Bannon wagon?



So clearly you want to lynch RB but you feel you won't get it done in this town. Ok. Convince us?

haze answer this plox.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 18:11 GMT
#457
Reads so far:


Heineken Town: Shape, Koshi, Palmar, Damdred
Stella Artosis Town: Vivax, VE, kush

Null: VA, DCW
Orange Juice Maf: SL, haze, RB
Tomato Soup Maf:
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 18:14 GMT
#462
Anyway haze or sl sound like right lynch to me for today. Why people are voting VA?
RB is shady and DCW reminds me of my mafia self in newbie XXII, not enough for D1 lynch tho.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 18:38 GMT
#482
On July 07 2016 03:34 Shapelog wrote:
I am here, I have a question.

Did Skynx ever looked at anyone elses meta?

I checked you and Koshi a tiny bit, impressive stuff in storm mafia.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 18:45 GMT
#486
I'll vote haze for now cuz he's here and ignoring my question. Off to fitness for an hour max.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 20:34 GMT
#557
On July 07 2016 03:49 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 03:05 Skynx wrote:
On July 07 2016 00:44 Koshi wrote:
On July 07 2016 00:09 prplhz wrote:
Because no one wants to lynch Race Bannon?

what? how can you even say that. Nobody got more than 2 votes. You basically need 1 more vote except your own and he is the main wagon.

And I just made a post asking him questions.

And nobody is pushing anybody strong so it requires really minimal effort to get people on a Race Bannon wagon?



So clearly you want to lynch RB but you feel you won't get it done in this town. Ok. Convince us?

haze answer this plox.

Eh because since I wrote a post on and voted for Race Bannon, the only person who said something about Race Bannon is Palmar who called him town. Vivax expressed minor interest in a Race Bannon lynch but didn't follow up on it at all. So it doesn't look like anybody really wants to lynch Race Bannon.

I don't see how lack of people showing interest is relevant here. It's D1, no one except Palmar has 100% confirmed targets so you should be pushing for something you find suspicous. Instead you just dropped it cuz no one felt like it, into voting for SL with no backstory just cuz Palmar voted for him?
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 20:37 GMT
#558
On July 07 2016 03:52 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 03:38 Skynx wrote:
On July 07 2016 03:34 Shapelog wrote:
I am here, I have a question.

Did Skynx ever looked at anyone elses meta?

I checked you and Koshi a tiny bit, impressive stuff in storm mafia.

Ah ok,

Anything there to help your read on us?

Well, I can say Koshi is almost always right when he posts a scumteam.
You play exactly as you are right now when you're town.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 20:51 GMT
#568
On July 07 2016 05:38 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 05:37 Skynx wrote:
On July 07 2016 03:52 Shapelog wrote:
On July 07 2016 03:38 Skynx wrote:
On July 07 2016 03:34 Shapelog wrote:
I am here, I have a question.

Did Skynx ever looked at anyone elses meta?

I checked you and Koshi a tiny bit, impressive stuff in storm mafia.

Ah ok,

Anything there to help your read on us?

Well, I can say Koshi is almost always right when he posts a scumteam.
You play exactly as you are right now when you're town.

Oh yeah....
Your in the game.

Now I have a question. This is meta off of storm right?

Yours is, + another scumgame. Koshi is multiple games including HF.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 20:57 GMT
#576
On July 07 2016 05:52 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 05:51 Skynx wrote:
On July 07 2016 05:38 Shapelog wrote:
On July 07 2016 05:37 Skynx wrote:
On July 07 2016 03:52 Shapelog wrote:
On July 07 2016 03:38 Skynx wrote:
On July 07 2016 03:34 Shapelog wrote:
I am here, I have a question.

Did Skynx ever looked at anyone elses meta?

I checked you and Koshi a tiny bit, impressive stuff in storm mafia.

Ah ok,

Anything there to help your read on us?

Well, I can say Koshi is almost always right when he posts a scumteam.
You play exactly as you are right now when you're town.

Oh yeah....
Your in the game.

Now I have a question. This is meta off of storm right?

Yours is, + another scumgame. Koshi is multiple games including HF.

##VOTE Skynx
I wasn't town in either of those. Therefore, the statement:
Show nested quote +
You play exactly as you are right now when you're town.

is impossible to be made.

Sigh... I wish you didn't jump like that as you found someone bluffing in poker. No shit sherlock you were scum in both games. When i wrote that I was thinking of 1-day mafia where you wrote bunch of long posts day1 which ended up getting you mislynched and cost us the game.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 21:01 GMT
#581
On July 07 2016 05:57 Shapelog wrote:
And,
Show nested quote +
Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.

U shouldn't have been able to conculde my normal town game off that one game for this reason + me being different from that game and here.

I don't think you're playing necessarily good right now anyway, you wouldn't push me if you were. You're actually following 1-day mafia pattern like 100% right now.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 21:11 GMT
#600
On July 07 2016 06:03 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 06:01 Skynx wrote:
On July 07 2016 05:57 Shapelog wrote:
And,
Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.

U shouldn't have been able to conculde my normal town game off that one game for this reason + me being different from that game and here.

I don't think you're playing necessarily good right now anyway, you wouldn't push me if you were. You're actually following 1-day mafia pattern like 100% right now.

So I wouldn't push if I feel like you scum slipped? As town?

I assume this whole plan of yours of trying to see if I slip from my meta game. So what, you really think I slipped and think you found scum or you're trying to see who is jumping on the ship? If second is the case and you're just observing right now I'm cool with that but I dunno you look biased against me from my 1st post this game.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 21:15 GMT
#604
whoa whoa, why are we switching to sl?
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 06 2016 21:22 GMT
#613
On July 07 2016 06:17 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 06:11 Skynx wrote:
On July 07 2016 06:03 Shapelog wrote:
On July 07 2016 06:01 Skynx wrote:
On July 07 2016 05:57 Shapelog wrote:
And,
Well, shaprlog in 1day counts aswell i think but he didn't play very good.

U shouldn't have been able to conculde my normal town game off that one game for this reason + me being different from that game and here.

I don't think you're playing necessarily good right now anyway, you wouldn't push me if you were. You're actually following 1-day mafia pattern like 100% right now.

So I wouldn't push if I feel like you scum slipped? As town?

I assume this whole plan of yours of trying to see if I slip from my meta game. So what, you really think I slipped and think you found scum or you're trying to see who is jumping on the ship? If second is the case and you're just observing right now I'm cool with that but I dunno you look biased against me from my 1st post this game.

No, you said that I was following my town game.
I remember you bring up storm.
I asked you about what games you meta me about,
you said that and another scum game.
Knowing that, and the fact you said I wasn't good day 1 (which I took as you thinking that wasn't my norm play), I found it funny that you knew I my town meta.
Then we are here.

How was I biased towards you?
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2016 06:12 Damdred wrote:
On July 07 2016 06:08 Shapelog wrote:
On July 07 2016 06:04 Damdred wrote:
I do agree with koshi to a point shape you are quite different here than in your last couple of scum games. And I do think your [redacted] and you aren't very likely [redacted].


Did calling me good/town/different make you vomit?
Jeez


Ita classified that read sir once the appropriate time is lifted (your death or game end) all will be revealed

Do I get a nom?

Also, how many people are voting SL?

Since you gave me a pass, I'm gona abandon quoting and all. Shall we just agree to find scum for now?
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