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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 06 2016 20:14 GMT
#58
/replace
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 01:25 GMT
#343
you know what I'm doing that stupid thing replacements do where they put all of their catching up in one post
quote me now bitches


Early early D1
On June 07 2016 06:10 sicklucker wrote:
but really I want to kill shape for that. Reasons being hes the kind of guy who would acualy do something cute like that, where i just do it to fuck with people.

Example how many of you guys remember pyp where I was third party and shapelog was mafia? He rolecoped me and made jokes / notions that he knew I was an alien all game as a cute thing to show off postgame with. Ya murder this man

sl, shape is cute regardless of alignment and you should (probably) know that. sl and shape probably not a team though.
On June 07 2016 06:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 06:18 Shapelog wrote:
Anyways, Enough goofing off.

LS, Yeah I am calling you out. What do you make of the last 9 mins of this intense game?

NAI items so far from sicklucker and Shape seems to just be trolling to me. Kinda amused sicklucker and Shape are voting each other but neverless it just NAI items.

ls trying so hard to say things, it's adorable. could definitely see this coming from town!ls, scum!ls I have not seen.

really not very much in early early d1 because it's all spam and half-assed reads, big surprise.

okay I just filtered LS because I couldn't handle the suspense of not figuring out his alignment and he's not very out there (+ hasn't shown that he really cares about anything). not for sure scum but no reason to TR him yet.
early D1 (this is everything else I guess)
On June 07 2016 06:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
yeah we should kill Palmar

looks like wbg has played with palmar, so he shouldn't be saying this, unless wbg is also not serious and I'm an idiot.
On June 07 2016 07:20 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 07:16 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 07:13 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 07 2016 07:11 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 07:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
On June 07 2016 07:08 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 07:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
The other option is we sheep Palmar and if he's wrong we kill him

Why cannot they sheep you?


You do you, if you wanna sheep me to kill Palmar be my guest.

Oh I misunderstood the post :/
On June 07 2016 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 07 2016 07:05 Shapelog wrote:
Yeah i get that a lot.
Don't worry, if I am scum, all my team mates will be dead by Day 3, because I bus them to hell.

but, in a attempt to get the ball really rolling,
why is thou scum?


is that directed at me or palmar?

Anyone who wants to.


because palmar called you mafia and you asked him why damdred was mafia.

Yes, I want to know what Palmar thinks about Damdred and why he voted him in his own words.
I also then ask him and u basically why you think moi is scum.
?


that is an excellent report of what happened in the game, thank you.

I just found it weird that palmar called you and Damdred mafia, and you were more concerned with damdred than being like "palmar wtf get off me".

this is pretty smart kelsier can be town for now
stuff I spoilered because it's irrelevant
[/spoiler]
On June 07 2016 07:37 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 07:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 07 2016 07:29 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 07:23 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 07 2016 07:22 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 07:20 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 07 2016 07:16 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 07:13 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 07 2016 07:11 Shapelog wrote:
On June 07 2016 07:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
[quote]

You do you, if you wanna sheep me to kill Palmar be my guest.

Oh I misunderstood the post :/
On June 07 2016 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:
[quote]

is that directed at me or palmar?

Anyone who wants to.


because palmar called you mafia and you asked him why damdred was mafia.

Yes, I want to know what Palmar thinks about Damdred and why he voted him in his own words.
I also then ask him and u basically why you think moi is scum.
?


that is an excellent report of what happened in the game, thank you.

I just found it weird that palmar called you and Damdred mafia, and you were more concerned with damdred than being like "palmar wtf get off me".

Well Maybe because he posted the Damdred vote before he said he scum read me?


He posted both of them before you responded though, it took a while for you to actually ask about it.



The difference of time between the 2 posts is 3 mins. You really think me taking 3 mins to do something is that scummy.

Like there is a list of things I could do in 3 mins


I'm not really explaining this very well.

Palmar called you and damdred scummy.

Then you asked palmar why damdred was scum

this felt off to me like you were trying to hard to be nonchalant.

so I said you were probably scum. It was one of three off posts in the whole game that felt worthy of comment

Then later on you asked why you were scum.

felt wrong to me,

.


This is a smart post, kel can go in the town pile for now as well.

oh hey lol damdred said the same thing as me.
On June 07 2016 11:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
how the fuck did this start already... i cant play right now im super busy. REPLACE PLZ

hi kush I'm you now
[/spoiler]
On June 07 2016 13:17 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote:
Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all!

Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker.

Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours.


what do you think of chezina?

kind of like sl for asking this question, as a test for kwahamot. (and he passed... no follow-up from sl, which is eh because it wasn't really worthy of a follow-up, but kwahamot gets about one and a half town points for that)
On June 08 2016 07:06 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 07:02 Shapelog wrote:
Moving on
On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote:
Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all!

Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker.

Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours.

What Introduction? Or is the introduction "Excited to play with you all!"?

anyways,

First off, how much mafia experience do you have? I just want to know. As of making reads (and catching scum) look at the numerous guides in the forum. They give a nice outline on what to do, even if they are a bit out of date.

So moving onto my second question, is anyone standing out to you for any reason at all?

+ Show Spoiler [funny point] +

it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours

Funny enough, this is exactly (or close too) what SL said.

##Vote Kwahamot
Prepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread.
The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum.
Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff.

rather confident of rels for a read on a player's first-ever post.
On June 08 2016 08:26 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 07:28 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 08 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
Also the guy who said "everybody who posted so far is town"' got a serious scumpoint for making that comment.

Everything that was said was pretty shit till up to that point. Giving everybody townreads for that is just more likely mafia not being able to think of something, than a townie actually being happy with how the thread was going.


wherebugsgo.

He has a massive hard on for Palmar right now

Bugs might have a very good read on palmar , which would explain making a bad excuse to vote him and then asking for peoples reads on him afterwards so just waiting to see how that develops.



bugs seems to think palmar is this tryhard player and is suspicous of his lack of posts. But that was in the 80's. We all know the corrent palmar but I can see why he would focus on palmer since hes probably the only one here hes ever played with (you know in the 80's?) so he does not look that bad for focusing on him imo.

smart post indicates sl was thinking about the game which indicates that he cares about the game which slightly indicates that he's town.


I found the post where it says I replace so I'm stopping there
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 01:27 GMT
#344
after the replacement post:
- where bugs go the original story has me in tears
On June 08 2016 10:18 Shapelog wrote:
Idk,
Tumble did you actually get your wish, and replaced in as scum, and now will be able to have a scum meta after what? 8-9 games?

nope can't even get a scum role PM when I steal someone else's
- dammit the thing I spoilered didn't spoiler
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 01:28 GMT
#345
OH SHIT READS I FORGOT THOSE
damdred shape scum
palmar kelsier sl koshi town
rest unknown
I agree with palmar's reads so far
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 01:30 GMT
#346
people who literally made be so bored that I literally died literally:
ve
people who literally made me laugh so hard that I literally died literally:
chez
shape that one time
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 01:30 GMT
#347
can you all townread me now so we can get this over with
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 02:05 GMT
#363
On June 08 2016 10:34 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 10:28 Tumblewood wrote:
OH SHIT READS I FORGOT THOSE
damdred shape scum
palmar kelsier sl koshi town
rest unknown
I agree with palmar's reads so far

Show nested quote +
oh hey lol damdred said the same thing as me.

Only thing you meation about Damdred in your list.
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 10:27 Tumblewood wrote:
after the replacement post:
- where bugs go the original story has me in tears
On June 08 2016 10:18 Shapelog wrote:
Idk,
Tumble did you actually get your wish, and replaced in as scum, and now will be able to have a scum meta after what? 8-9 games?

nope can't even get a scum role PM when I steal someone else's
- dammit the thing I spoilered didn't spoiler

me

Palmar is not even on your catch up post.

You can go ahead and explain the reads on those 3 btw. The fact you got something other than Null for Palmar interests me

copying that thing kelsier said, why do you care about my damdred scumread more than my you scumread

re: damdred read
feels
re: palmar read
I agree with him so clearly he's leading us to the d1 scum lynch
also feels
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 04:41 GMT
#400
On June 08 2016 11:09 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 11:05 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 08 2016 10:34 Shapelog wrote:
On June 08 2016 10:28 Tumblewood wrote:
OH SHIT READS I FORGOT THOSE
damdred shape scum
palmar kelsier sl koshi town
rest unknown
I agree with palmar's reads so far

oh hey lol damdred said the same thing as me.

Only thing you meation about Damdred in your list.
On June 08 2016 10:27 Tumblewood wrote:
after the replacement post:
- where bugs go the original story has me in tears
On June 08 2016 10:18 Shapelog wrote:
Idk,
Tumble did you actually get your wish, and replaced in as scum, and now will be able to have a scum meta after what? 8-9 games?

nope can't even get a scum role PM when I steal someone else's
- dammit the thing I spoilered didn't spoiler

me

Palmar is not even on your catch up post.

You can go ahead and explain the reads on those 3 btw. The fact you got something other than Null for Palmar interests me

copying that thing kelsier said, why do you care about my damdred scumread more than my you scumread

re: damdred read
feels
re: palmar read
I agree with him so clearly he's leading us to the d1 scum lynch
also feels

Was the bold the reason why I am scum? Did you actually read the response I gave?

alright on damdred

But how the fuck is Palmar leading anyone onto anything? even if you think Damdred is scum, Palmar hasn't been fucking here leading anyone.

not the reason you're scum, you didn't ask for that reason. that's just another reason. the real reason is high volume low presence (aka you make up a quarter of the thread's post but aren't making an outsize contribution).
of course palmar's not leading us yet but with the combined force of some possible effort later on and tl's hardon for him anything can happen. most of that was to say that I agree with his reads.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 04:42 GMT
#401
On June 08 2016 12:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
Also the guy who said "everybody who posted so far is town"' got a serious scumpoint for making that comment.

Everything that was said was pretty shit till up to that point. Giving everybody townreads for that is just more likely mafia not being able to think of something, than a townie actually being happy with how the thread was going.


you know, I actually thought I had a pretty good read on you until this post. The observation is fine, and it's actually a pretty townie thing to say, but the manner has me confused.

What bothers me about this post is that the callout isn't direct. I would expect that if you're town you'd just call me out directly and even vote me if that's what you actually think, but in this case it was completely indirect, something I think mafia would be more likely to do because they don't take the attention of making such a strong statement. I like Kelsier's later clarification that the person who said this was me, because that was more direct, but he doesn't get as much credit for it because he wasn't actually the first to point it out.

this is never a scum tactic
this is an "I finished reading and there's this thing I remember from four pages ago but I don't remember who did it" tactic
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 04:42 GMT
#402
On June 08 2016 12:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 12:16 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 08 2016 12:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
Palmar, wanna stop being a lazy asshole and talk to me about ShapeLog?

I had the same issue with him last game with me and yet he was town. I doubt he can change it over just 1 game.


what do you think of Mr. Log?

confused by why wbg cares so much about palmar's opinion on shape
could probably find the answer in his filter but that's too many clicks
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 04:45 GMT
#403
wbg, without saying the word "palmar", what are your reads
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 04:49 GMT
#404
tumblewood esteemed 100% accurate sometimes reads list

really town
sl
koshi

sorta town
kelsier
palmar

null
ls
rels

done nothing of note
ve
kwahamot
chezinu

scum team
damdred
shape
wbg

I think I'm done for the night, and the game. my reads can't get any more 100% correct than this.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 14:00 GMT
#458
On June 08 2016 16:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 13:49 Tumblewood wrote:
tumblewood esteemed 100% accurate sometimes reads list

really town
sl
koshi

sorta town
kelsier
palmar

null
ls
rels

done nothing of note
ve
kwahamot
chezinu

scum team
damdred
shape
wbg

I think I'm done for the night, and the game. my reads can't get any more 100% correct than this.

Like how has Palmar done any more than me? Seriously though, I've given reads on people, explained them to the best of my ability AND been able to answer questions (mostly, I hear ya Bugs)

That fact alone makes me suspect that ALL of these reads are fabricated and meaningless.

##Vote: Tumblewood

"you said palmar has been notable and I haven't" --> "all your reads are bs"
and you only had two non-fluff posts anyway
this is so bad
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 14:01 GMT
#459
On June 08 2016 17:52 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 13:49 Tumblewood wrote:
tumblewood esteemed 100% accurate sometimes reads list

really town
sl
koshi

sorta town
kelsier
palmar

null
ls
rels

done nothing of note
ve
kwahamot
chezinu

scum team
damdred
shape
wbg

I think I'm done for the night, and the game. my reads can't get any more 100% correct than this.


I've got a couple of questions for you tumble.

First one is about palmar and your read list. You have made it clear that you agree with palmar and that your scum reads are like his. I'm curious why you needed to qualify that palmar agrees with you when he didn't give any explanation for his reads. To me your shapelog and damdred reads don't have any weight because your damdred read looks like it is just copied from palmar and shapelog is based on something he already answered ,"high volume low contribution" and because palmar agreed. I guess the question im getting at is a chicken or the egg style. is palmar town because he agrees with your reads, or are you making your reads based on town reading palmar.


The second question which ties into the first one is about your scum read of wbg, I don't really understand where this comes from, if you could put specifically what he did that you found scummy that would be great.

I will look over the rest of your list at some point but as VE pointed out some of it looks strange.

my palmar read is based on the fact that we have the same scumreads (and reading through the thread we formed them from about the same set of posts). my damdred and shapelog reads are unrelated to my palmar read
I found wbg scummy because he spend his first 20 posts talking about palmar and asking palmar for his opinions. he made that big wall of text that lines up well with my read on shape so I think he's okay now.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 14:02 GMT
#460
On June 08 2016 18:13 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 18:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think I use that word differently than you. You're going to base a lot of decisions about who you think is mafia on that read, and it's wrong, and you're going to be horribly wrong all game because of it. Kinda sucks.

also unlikely. TW is lock town because his reads are based on reading the thread and he he had to read the thread after replacing in.

what this doesn't make sense
of course my reads are based on reading the thread, so are everyone else's. what are we supposed to do, throw darts at a list of names?
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 14:06 GMT
#461
oh what
a game without a voting thread?
huzzah!
##Vote: Shapelog
I like where bugs are going with this
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 14:15 GMT
#463
On June 08 2016 23:09 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 23:02 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 08 2016 18:13 Koshi wrote:
On June 08 2016 18:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think I use that word differently than you. You're going to base a lot of decisions about who you think is mafia on that read, and it's wrong, and you're going to be horribly wrong all game because of it. Kinda sucks.

also unlikely. TW is lock town because his reads are based on reading the thread and he he had to read the thread after replacing in.

what this doesn't make sense
of course my reads are based on reading the thread, so are everyone else's. what are we supposed to do, throw darts at a list of names?

sand in vagina problems today?

no I'm doing my best jat impression
your read is no better than "he's lock town for signing up for the game" and I want you to explain it
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 18:20 GMT
#562
On June 09 2016 02:13 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
this is never a scum tactic

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 13:49 Tumblewood wrote:
tumblewood esteemed 100% accurate sometimes reads list

really town
sl
koshi

sorta town
kelsier
palmar

null
ls
rels

done nothing of note
ve
kwahamot
chezinu

scum team
damdred
shape
wbg

I think I'm done for the night, and the game. my reads can't get any more 100% correct than this.

Never a scum tatic, tho top scum.
Not to mention your read on me is so fucking wrong it hurts my eyes. It makes butterflies fly out of the town.

On June 09 2016 02:09 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 13:41 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 08 2016 11:09 Shapelog wrote:
On June 08 2016 11:05 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 08 2016 10:34 Shapelog wrote:
On June 08 2016 10:28 Tumblewood wrote:
OH SHIT READS I FORGOT THOSE
damdred shape scum
palmar kelsier sl koshi town
rest unknown
I agree with palmar's reads so far

oh hey lol damdred said the same thing as me.

Only thing you meation about Damdred in your list.
On June 08 2016 10:27 Tumblewood wrote:
after the replacement post:
- where bugs go the original story has me in tears
On June 08 2016 10:18 Shapelog wrote:
Idk,
Tumble did you actually get your wish, and replaced in as scum, and now will be able to have a scum meta after what? 8-9 games?

nope can't even get a scum role PM when I steal someone else's
- dammit the thing I spoilered didn't spoiler

me

Palmar is not even on your catch up post.

You can go ahead and explain the reads on those 3 btw. The fact you got something other than Null for Palmar interests me

copying that thing kelsier said, why do you care about my damdred scumread more than my you scumread

re: damdred read
feels
re: palmar read
I agree with him so clearly he's leading us to the d1 scum lynch
also feels

Was the bold the reason why I am scum? Did you actually read the response I gave?

alright on damdred

But how the fuck is Palmar leading anyone onto anything? even if you think Damdred is scum, Palmar hasn't been fucking here leading anyone.

not the reason you're scum, you didn't ask for that reason. that's just another reason. the real reason is high volume low presence (aka you make up a quarter of the thread's post but aren't making an outsize contribution).
of course palmar's not leading us yet but with the combined force of some possible effort later on and tl's hardon for him anything can happen. most of that was to say that I agree with his reads.

I did ask for me, and fair i guess. Am working out content tho.

I am predicting that Palmar hasn't posted, so tumble, do you actually know his reasoning behind the votes/reads of his? Because up to this post at least, he hasn't explain any of them, so it is kinda hard to agree with a read that looks like:

"Damdred scum, shape mostly scum"

I just refuse to believe that you, out of all people, who I know can play smart and usually do, is sheeping a person who hasn't even explained their reads, and agreeing with said none explained reads.

ITT: Shape misinterprets everything I say, Rels makes everything Shape and Kwahamot do scummy
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 18:21 GMT
#564
rels is either scum or confirmation biased to all hell
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 18:38 GMT
#578
On June 09 2016 03:24 Chezinu wrote:
Facts:

##unvote
##vote Tumblewood


Analysis:

Note 13: Maybe this will give Tumblewood a motive to convince us how he is different from a Shapelog.

Purpose of Post:

1. To demonstrate my panic induced scumhunting.

what
but why am I scum
I get the sense your scumhunting is panic induced
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 18:46 GMT
#586
On June 09 2016 03:08 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 03:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 09 2016 03:02 Rels wrote:
On June 09 2016 02:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey guys I here was just been trying out a new game and wbg cased Shape and the case looks okay I might just having some paranoia about Shape atm. Rels getting onto sicklucker about some stuff. Damdred haven't done much since he finally got his internet back and I really hope he actually does something :\
@Rels What your current read on sicklucker after your exchanges with him?
@sicklucker same thing for you about Rels.
@WBG did you take his past games in account for your case?

Scum.

Why you think he is scum?

He's scumreading me for reasons that are not believable.
He doesn't have this aura of "fuck you I do what I want" that he has as town, especially on D1.
He claims to be good at reading new player but misses the obvious scumtells in the two posts of the new player playing this game.
He didn't spew himself town. If he's town he will at some point.

didn't see his reasons for scumreading you but all your other points are bad
he's been a pretty normal amount of cavalier this game
your third point is really bad because it assumes that town!sl would read kwahamot in the exact same way that you are which is ridiculous to expect
your spewing himself town read, as I remember it, is when he gets worked up about something and makes a bunch of posts about it in a short time. I've seen him do that once or twice now.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 18:49 GMT
#590
On June 09 2016 03:42 Damdred wrote:
@sl, rels and koshi

Who am I lynching today so I an hit scum

damdred I can't believe you'd ever sheep koshi to hit scum
isn't palmar your designated shepherd
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 18:50 GMT
#593
On June 09 2016 03:48 Damdred wrote:
##unvote
##vote Tumblewood


This is fine my buddy rels wants him dead

damdred wtf are you doing
- deciding to sheep rels
- not going after either of his solid scumreads
- voting me, town god, of all people
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 18:52 GMT
#596
On June 09 2016 03:51 Damdred wrote:
Sure let me just sheep Palmar unto myself

yeah didn't you want to hit scum
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 18:55 GMT
#599
damdred playing even worse than his blue game. could lynch although I want to be right on shapelog for once
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 20:52 GMT
#755
On June 09 2016 05:41 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 05:39 Shapelog wrote:
Doctor

Hence Butterfly references, Butterflies = life


a doctor would not claim a doctor... he would claim a tracker...

you wouldn't have but I don't think shape claims a different blue role here
or shape is vet
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 20:54 GMT
#769
lol nvm there is no vet
but anyway that might not be a fakeclaim
if no cc we shouldn't lynch, simple as that
##unvote
##vote: damdred
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 20:55 GMT
#773
like sl the benefit doesn't outweigh the risk of maybe lynching a PR
damdred is probably best lynch now
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 08 2016 21:48 GMT
#832
Thoughts:
Rels pls
Everyone else pls
Going 0/5 on shape
When did Damdred claim
I get to move all my bubble scums up to regular scum (watch out rels/ve)
Blech
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2016 01:38 GMT
#862
tumblewood esteemed even more 100% accurate reads list

really town
sl
koshi
shape
damdred
ls

townish
wbg

null
palmar
kelsier
chezinu

could lynch
rels

would lynch
ve
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2016 01:41 GMT
#863
so really all we need is for 2 of the 6 kind of lynchable players to confirm themselves town and then we're golden
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2016 01:41 GMT
#864
wow mafia is really easy and I'm really good
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2016 14:55 GMT
#908
I actually really really like Koshi's analysis. Maybe rels is town after all.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2016 19:46 GMT
#922
On June 10 2016 03:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
I am like...98% sure VE is scum. Kill him.
95% sure Kelsier is also scum after a couple rereads. Kill him too.

The last one is the most difficult but there's a good chance it's Palmar. If it's not Palmar then probably Tumble. From there down the list who knows, very far down probably LS or Chezinu but I doubt it.


hey bugs I'm not opposed kelsier being scum but I'm no sure why he would be. cam you explain that read to me?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2016 21:40 GMT
#957
ez lynch
##vote visceraeyes
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2016 22:33 GMT
#972
Damdred who did you track
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2016 05:09 GMT
#1066
Of the two tracker claims, Art is scum. There's a reason I preferred lynching Shape to lynching Damdred that I avoided saying earlier in the game: I was concerned that I was seeing Damdred's blue meta. Damdred as blue gets himself scumread to avoid a NK (source: Storm, Holyf***e). This is my scum meter for him: [image loading] plus that whole thing about Kelsier tracking but being completely absent, Art is the scum.
##unvote
##vote: artanis
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2016 05:10 GMT
#1067
also wbg is a million percent town
I'd quote posts for you but instead go read all of his analysis on page 50. all of it is good.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2016 05:21 GMT
#1073
hm damn I might have to reconsider
I don't wanna deal with cc wars right now I'm going to sleep and when I wake up I'll see what everyone's agreed on and sheep that or something
##unvote
##vote visceraeyes
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2016 05:22 GMT
#1074
also I guess it would be really shitty if damdred decided to (almost) pull a marv and give himself up as blue
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2016 18:34 GMT
#1307
god this is an awful toss-up. this is one of those situations where I'd be like "can we just lynch both of them" but that kind of defeats the purpose of choosing a side. damdred is less scummy based on behavior but art has the way better claim... I just really hate evaluating blue roles and ccs because it doesn't feel like mafia.
anyway, I have no clue who the mafia is of those two so I'll chill on the sidelines of the debate for now.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2016 18:35 GMT
#1308
@wbg and palmar: why did ve become "maybe town"? he's hardly done anything since you (we) all scumread him.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2016 18:38 GMT
#1310
On June 11 2016 03:13 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 03:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
Chezinu do you legitimately think Koshi is scum? Reading his past games, I feel like there's a very good chance he's just really awful.

I'm not exaggerating there, I read enough to see that he almost never makes sense.

I've been in games where he was mafia and deceived the majority of town to thinking he was town. That's why I'm cautious about him. Especially, when his votes don't look good.

koshi is an erratic town player who is usually wrong but a million times more motivated than he is as scum. I can say with total confidence this game that he is town, really easy player to read.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2016 21:12 GMT
#1392
I'm going to use Occam's Razor here. there are way more things that are hard to explain if damdred is town than if art is town. I can tell you but it's super obvious what needs to be explained that isn't.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 10 2016 21:13 GMT
#1393
##unvote
##vote damdred
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 11 2016 00:48 GMT
#1400
"Town is mafia siding" is a comment I'd lynch into 10/10 times TBH
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 11 2016 01:00 GMT
#1401
I've seen townies react to being lynched by martyring, giving up, hard defending themselves, semi-AFK defending themselves, calling town bad, calling their voters scum, and ignoring pressure, but never accusing town of mafia siding.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 11 2016 01:32 GMT
#1404
On June 11 2016 10:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
this game is so weird

Every game feels like that when you're playing it
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 11 2016 01:34 GMT
#1405
Hmm if Damdred's scum LS might also be scum. Was hoping I wouldn't have to think so hard on that.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 11 2016 01:41 GMT
#1409
Assuming Damdred flips scum:
Koshi SL Art wbg are all super town
LS is town ???
Rels/Palmar/Chez possible scum
VE probable scum

Rels makes sense with VE or Palmar
Palmar/VE kind of doesn't make sense
Chez can be scum with literally anyone

Doing this from memory and I realize how little I remember about D1 interactions
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 12 2016 07:29 GMT
#1633
I saw the flip and just left for 10 hours for lack of caring past that point
Now I do care about stuff
Koshi, please calm down, you could cost a ML and possibly the game (not that it's your fault if we lose)
The next four lynches should 100% go Art -> VE -> Rels/Palmar -> Palmar/Rels. Art is confirmed scum and VE is nearly so too for spewing horseshit all game (will quote when it's not midnight). Rels and Palmar are the only non-super townies left after that (besides Chez... prayers, prayers).
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 12 2016 07:32 GMT
#1634
Agh but VE looks so town talking about Koshi. I want to call Koshi/VE/wbg TvTvT so maybe move VE to the end of the list. Shitty (ethically) thing to read someone for though.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 12 2016 07:33 GMT
#1635
Man I want an easy game can we just reenact holyflare
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 12 2016 07:50 GMT
#1636
How did everyone magically eliminate me from their scum pools after the lynch?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 12 2016 21:25 GMT
#1675
Oh ya I forgot Art is confirmed town
##vote: artanis
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 13 2016 14:39 GMT
#1730
Deduction time:
There are 6 players left in this game who are not named Artanis or Tumblewood. 2 of them are scum.
SL and LS are never lynches.
VE is probably townie after that interaction with Koshi.
Rels is scum for his shitty push on Kwah.
One of Palmar and Chez is therefore scum. Palmar looks townie this game and Chez has not interacted with the game at all outside of voting every 72 hours. I have no clue which one is actually mafia, or maybe it really is VE.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 13 2016 14:40 GMT
#1731
Game confirmed not solved.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 13 2016 15:20 GMT
#1733
On June 14 2016 00:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 23:39 Tumblewood wrote:
Deduction time:
There are 6 players left in this game who are not named Artanis or Tumblewood. 2 of them are scum.
SL and LS are never lynches.
VE is probably townie after that interaction with Koshi.
Rels is scum for his shitty push on Kwah.
One of Palmar and Chez is therefore scum. Palmar looks townie this game and Chez has not interacted with the game at all outside of voting every 72 hours. I have no clue which one is actually mafia, or maybe it really is VE.

Wait, you're scum?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
that is how much your comments make me laugh artanis
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 13 2016 15:29 GMT
#1734
On June 11 2016 06:54 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 06:30 Damdred wrote:
Well I guess that is that.

Koshi and ls Ty for believing me at least.

If you move your votes that's fine but I really don't care I think with some people I tr stuck on scum reading me the scum team would have to vote for art to actually get him lynched.

Anyway I'll finish what I'm working on when I get home and that will be that for me.

it's okk. I just don't want to believe that the host messed up on a vote count against a mafia. It that was true.. I don't know what type of game this is. You should have trolled that you were town pretending to be a tracker to save yourself despite not caring about getting lynch day 1. yet you came back. then left and came back. one instant apathetic to dying and another fighting back til the end. The inconsistency has caused your demise.

chez is townish I guess
this is a good comment that is unlikely to come from a mafia
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 13 2016 15:32 GMT
#1735
eh screw this I'm not townreading VE for something as shitty as a modkill and I have no reason to scumread palmar besides "oh he's good at scum"
Artanis/Rels/VE are the scumteam
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 13 2016 19:47 GMT
#1742
oh hey my thousandth post
ls I hardly have a scum meta because my only scum games were my first one (newbie XIX) and my fourth that I replaced into (newbies and vets). been getting better about the lynchbait thing though, been pretty solidly town for three games running. appreciate the townread but you do need a better reason to townread me than that my town meta is lynchbait-y.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 13 2016 19:56 GMT
#1744
ls you're not even scum for it but you need to find a better reason for townreading me. every game you townread me for lynchbaitiness and you can't rely on me rolling town forever (probably can actually the cycle never ends).
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 13 2016 20:05 GMT
#1745
On June 08 2016 16:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 13:49 Tumblewood wrote:
tumblewood esteemed 100% accurate sometimes reads list

really town
sl
koshi

sorta town
kelsier
palmar

null
ls
rels

done nothing of note
ve
kwahamot
chezinu

scum team
damdred
shape
wbg

I think I'm done for the night, and the game. my reads can't get any more 100% correct than this.

Like how has Palmar done any more than me? Seriously though, I've given reads on people, explained them to the best of my ability AND been able to answer questions (mostly, I hear ya Bugs)

That fact alone makes me suspect that ALL of these reads are fabricated and meaningless.

##Vote: Tumblewood

the promised horseshit quoting is here. this quote is so bad, not because ve sees himself in the nothing tier and palmar above it and assumes I say palmar has done more, but because he acts like he's been productive when he had two non-fluff posts prior to that point and one of them was super lame.
ALSO he sees himself and palmar (in his mind) out of order and he feels that that alone is justification for a vote. also "I bet all these reads are made up" jesus christ how bad do you think I am.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 13 2016 20:08 GMT
#1746
On June 09 2016 18:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm actually fine with Palmar all of a sudden. It's the strangest thing. XD I would have killed him yesterday, but now I think he's town. Maybe it's because I still don't believe Damdred's claim and he was still on Damdred with me. AFK maybe, but probably not. He despises D1 claims.+ Show Spoiler +
Damdred's claim was shit. Like...he didn't act like a Tracker the whole game, he seemed completely divested from the game, which has only been made worse SINCE his claim. I don't know about you, but when I am a role and I claim it under duress, I have a reaction. A hard one. Damdred had no reaction.

Like I said - I've seen Palmar play awfully on D1 before, even recently. Honestly I'm gonna have to see what he does between now and tomorrow, if he dies, etc.

I'm not sure about Tumble. I'm having a hard time getting motivated, to be honest. I don't even want to read his super short filter because I know the whole thing just says "Lynch VE" over and over. Same thing with Koshi - I don't even want to try and read Koshi right now.

in which ve assumes people have been talking about him
good news though is that first sentence means for sure that palmar and ve are Not A Team
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 13 2016 21:52 GMT
#1751
On June 14 2016 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
TW Will you look at my post on LS and tell me what you think? Humor me plz.

what post
pls link
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 13 2016 22:30 GMT
#1753
On June 14 2016 06:55 LightningStrike wrote:
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/509751-names-are-hard-mini-mafia?page=85#1689

I can totally believe LS might put excessive faith in blue claims. Still would not lynch.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 13 2016 23:45 GMT
#1754
Okay maybe VE isn't scum. Most of his content I don't like, but his emotion seems genuine. No idea on our three candidates for third scum really. Nightmare MyLo is probably Palmar/Chez/VE/LS so that's probably what scum is going to give us :/
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 14 2016 18:34 GMT
#1779
On June 15 2016 00:56 sicklucker wrote:
4,337 km icelan to toronto
5,754 km port to toronto na not even close



im bored

posting in thread about stupid things when you're bored is definitely a townie thing. mafia just doesn't post in that case.

im also bored
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 14 2016 20:05 GMT
#1781
go not portugal
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 14 2016 22:54 GMT
#1798
On June 15 2016 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 07:04 Chezinu wrote:
WHAT!??!?!?!?!??!?!?

Artanis was mafia?

If flipped town we would of lost so yep he was mafia.

See, stuff like this is why LS is town.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 22:01 GMT
#1875
##vote: no-lynch
Rels is right that this is the best play but I'm still lynching him tomorrow.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 22:13 GMT
#1876
The longer this game goes on the more I find myself believing in SL's Rels/Palmar team
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 22:19 GMT
#1879
TBH it's almost the better play to not no-lynch because the only people getting NKed are SL and both of us are town, and I really don't want a LyLo of VE/LS/Palmar if Palmar is scum.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 22:24 GMT
#1882
assuming we no-lynch
If VE is town, scum wins because they can force LyLo with LS and VE and win. If he's scum with Rels, he busses Rels and kills LS and forces LyLo with SL and Palmar and wins. If he's with Palmar, they go for the mislynch on Rels and maybe win.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 22:25 GMT
#1883
##Unvote
##vote rels
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Tumblewood
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United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 22:31 GMT
#1886
On June 16 2016 07:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't know about Rels. He could be mafia, but Palmar pushing on him is strange. Like if they're partners why? And if they're not I certainly would rather lynch Palmar than Rels.

Did you see SL's post about bussing being the best play in 3v2 or 4v2 LyLo? If Palmar busses Rels and it goes through he gets all the cred, if it doesn't he wins on the spot.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 22:49 GMT
#1895
On June 16 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:
Wow it looks like it's palmar tumble after all. Tumble being so convinced of no lynching then changing his mind because a town said so is pretty scummy

Rels, this is a terrible case because
a) I was not "so convinced" of no-lynching, nor did I change my mind for that reason, and
b) That's not even scummy if I did.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 22:51 GMT
#1897
On June 16 2016 07:49 Rels wrote:
Tumble your take on palmar case on me pretty please ?

yeah it's probably correct. I think your push on kwahamot was scummy too.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 22:54 GMT
#1898
On June 16 2016 07:50 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 07:49 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:
Wow it looks like it's palmar tumble after all. Tumble being so convinced of no lynching then changing his mind because a town said so is pretty scummy

Rels, this is a terrible case because
a) I was not "so convinced" of no-lynching, nor did I change my mind for that reason, and
b) That's not even scummy if I did.

Why did you change your mind then ?

Because in theory no-lynching is always best, but then I thought about it for a moment, and when you add real players who get tunneled it's probably worse than me or SL being there because those are the only ones I trust to finish this game right.
Back atcha, Rels: What about that switch made you think I was scum?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 23:01 GMT
#1901
On June 16 2016 07:57 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 07:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:50 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:49 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:
Wow it looks like it's palmar tumble after all. Tumble being so convinced of no lynching then changing his mind because a town said so is pretty scummy

Rels, this is a terrible case because
a) I was not "so convinced" of no-lynching, nor did I change my mind for that reason, and
b) That's not even scummy if I did.

Why did you change your mind then ?

Because in theory no-lynching is always best, but then I thought about it for a moment, and when you add real players who get tunneled it's probably worse than me or SL being there because those are the only ones I trust to finish this game right.
Back atcha, Rels: What about that switch made you think I was scum?

Scum naturally wants to lynch today and not have to lie during more and more days. So you being OK to no lynch because it's the right thing to do then not doing it looks like you're scum posting the right thing to do at first but going with the natural inclination at the first occasion

Why would I do that though
Why would I have 'the correct' stance for a couple minutes then change my mind
Why wouldn't I put forth my current stance initially
Why wouldn't I just vote no-lynch and go semi-inactive for a cycle? It's not like I'd get punished for autoing.
There's just no scum motivation in what I did but you're acting like there is.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 23:03 GMT
#1902
And if I'm scum I've effectively won already.
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Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 23:07 GMT
#1906
On June 16 2016 08:03 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 08:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:57 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:50 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:49 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:
Wow it looks like it's palmar tumble after all. Tumble being so convinced of no lynching then changing his mind because a town said so is pretty scummy

Rels, this is a terrible case because
a) I was not "so convinced" of no-lynching, nor did I change my mind for that reason, and
b) That's not even scummy if I did.

Why did you change your mind then ?

Because in theory no-lynching is always best, but then I thought about it for a moment, and when you add real players who get tunneled it's probably worse than me or SL being there because those are the only ones I trust to finish this game right.
Back atcha, Rels: What about that switch made you think I was scum?

Scum naturally wants to lynch today and not have to lie during more and more days. So you being OK to no lynch because it's the right thing to do then not doing it looks like you're scum posting the right thing to do at first but going with the natural inclination at the first occasion

Why would I do that though
Why would I have 'the correct' stance for a couple minutes then change my mind
Why wouldn't I put forth my current stance initially
Why wouldn't I just vote no-lynch and go semi-inactive for a cycle? It's not like I'd get punished for autoing.
There's just no scum motivation in what I did but you're acting like there is.

I just explained the fucking scum motivation just because you scumread me doesn't give you the fucking right to not read what I've daif

Rels, use your thinking brain here. If I'm scum, you said, I would want to look like I'm doing the right thing and then switch to lynching today so I can win immediately. I counter by asking why, if I'm scum, that would be the best play, because there are several options that are just as good.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 23:15 GMT
#1910
Rels, my new scumread for you is calling people scum for bad reasons.

whoops did I say that
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 23:17 GMT
#1913
Probably should only do that once you flip, in truth, but I confess I'm a little eager.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 23:17 GMT
#1914
On June 16 2016 08:16 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 08:15 Tumblewood wrote:
Rels, my new scumread for you is calling people scum for bad reasons.

whoops did I say that

Motherfucker just because your brain can't comprehend others doesn't mean you're right

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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 16 2016 05:03 GMT
#1921
Problem with sleep is that LS is so tunneled on VE that I'm afraid we'll lose a Palmar/LS/VE final 3, and we hardly need to wait. (How's the extra flip going to help? The town circle doesn't need confirmation.)
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 16 2016 13:32 GMT
#1941
On June 16 2016 21:10 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 14:03 Tumblewood wrote:
Problem with sleep is that LS is so tunneled on VE that I'm afraid we'll lose a Palmar/LS/VE final 3, and we hardly need to wait. (How's the extra flip going to help? The town circle doesn't need confirmation.)

Ugh did you not read recent posts about VE? I townreading him now it just both of us were tunneling each other but now we not tunneling each other.

Okay if you're TRing VE I assume your scumteam is Palmar/Rels? Huh this LyLo might work after all.
##Unvote
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 16 2016 13:35 GMT
#1942
On June 16 2016 17:20 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 14:03 Tumblewood wrote:
Problem with sleep is that LS is so tunneled on VE that I'm afraid we'll lose a Palmar/LS/VE final 3, and we hardly need to wait. (How's the extra flip going to help? The town circle doesn't need confirmation.)

Yes it does. There is no confirmed town in this game. If there was fucking chez wouldn't have been killed last night

Hey, can't help that mafia's a bunch of scrubs. LS, though, has made posts I don't think scum!LS could ever make, and SL has been townie throughout the whole game.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 16 2016 18:15 GMT
#1950
Rels said that one time:
Tumble why is Palmar scum

somewhere between poe and that he was wrong on D1 (and again on D2). I'm just not feeling ve as scum and can't really explain why, and it's not like Palmar's done anything to clear his name. makes him scum about two-thirds of the time.

##vote: no-lynch
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 16 2016 18:22 GMT
#1951
On June 17 2016 02:23 Rels wrote:
Tumble the way you're playing makes me think you' re scum a lot. You're sucking your townreads' dicks; SL can't be wrong about his assertion of the situation, LS can't be scum ... but more than that you are so sure Palmar is scum than you don't want to no-lynch because you think LS and VE will fight when you / SL / me are dead, but you still want to lynch me and your only reason to do so is a case your other scumread made.
The way you just assimilates the things that interests you and adds nothing from your perspective is different from the JAT game where you had your beliefs and they were weird and your own.

but am I scum
yeah I'm confident in my townreads, my town circle is rad this game and I am 100% confident in it. and no I don't trust LS to vote the right scummy person in 2v1 lylo. and yeah I think you're scum for the same reason palmar does and no I don't care that palmar's doing the same thing, he's probably bussing anyway.
and yeah it is kind of weird that I've mostly synthesized what everyone else says but yeah I'm still town.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 16 2016 18:35 GMT
#1953
rels, here is why I think you're scum:
a) you see information, and you make conclusions from it (in the form of X is scummy) that a townie could not reasonably conclude. it comes as either a huge leap to a conclusion or that you say "it benefits scum" and don't consider whether scum would have done something else or whether town would have done that too. examples: kwah case D1, case on me today.
b) you call me (and occasionally LS) scummy but then don't actually call me scum. it's like you want me lynched but you don't want to say so.

and here is why I think palmar is probably scum:
a) wrong on both his scumreads D1 and his vote on D2. apparently being wrong D1 is a scumtell for palmar.
b) who else is, eh?

and here is why ve is probably town:
a) he's been very genuine this game. it seems like he actually believes what he's saying when he gets pissed that someone's scumreading him or he tunnels on someone.
b) he's been so horseshit with some of his reads to the point that scum knows they'll get called out on it and town doesn't care.

shit, I'm confirmation biased to all hell on palmar/ve.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 16 2016 18:36 GMT
#1954
probably on rels too
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 16 2016 18:36 GMT
#1955
but two of them are scum every time and there's no way I'm calling rels town so it's either palmar or ve
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 16 2016 21:36 GMT
#1958
On June 17 2016 05:22 Palmar wrote:
SL you're bad if you think not only that I'm right on Rels but in addition that I'm his scummate

Why couldn't you be bussing Rels?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 00:18 GMT
#1959
every time I look through ve's filter I'm again surprised by how much the first two pages make ve look like obvious scum. too bad there are none...
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 00:21 GMT
#1960
On June 11 2016 04:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
WAIT HOLY SHIT

On June 11 2016 04:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay nevermind. I thought I remembered something huge from earlier, but it was nothing.

this is either town or good attention to detail
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 00:23 GMT
#1961
On June 12 2016 06:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Jesus Fuckery we had 3 towns up for lynch on D1. Worst game ever.

again same thing
I think someone pointed this out earlier, that this post implies that ve only realized we had 3 towns up for lynch on D1 later, like reverse TMI
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 00:26 GMT
#1962
ve or palmar can one of you just play really townie (and one of you really scummy) for the next cycle so I can have less doubts
thank you
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 05:38 GMT
#1963
Man I'm trying to help you guys out here and you're all too lazy to take it
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 14:32 GMT
#1972
On June 17 2016 22:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
There is literally no evidence I'm mafia. You are just describing thread sentiment. Everyone seems to THINK there is evidence against me, but no one thinks any of it is actually good. Just know I'm town and win with me. Vote Palmar.

Evidence:
Horseshit cases and complaining about scumreads through all of D1
Yes it is evidence
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 14:33 GMT
#1973
TBH my best reasons to think you're town, VE, are "too scummy to be scum"
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 15:05 GMT
#1976
ve why is palmar mafia
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 15:12 GMT
#1979
On June 18 2016 00:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Palmar is mafia because he didn't vote scum at all Day 1 or Day 2 which is normally a huge indicator that he's town. Plus he wasn't NK'd Night 2 which he would normally be NK'd by if he's town especially with this player list.

yeah at that point usually palmar would die, unless scum thinks they can get the mislynch? couldn't have foreseen the drop in activity though.
ve I still want to hear you explain your read.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 15:31 GMT
#1984
On June 18 2016 00:29 Rels wrote:
Tumble I have a hard time picturing you as scum because all of your posts look so natural.

ya that tends to happen when someone rolls town
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 15:33 GMT
#1985
On June 18 2016 00:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Why can't we lynch palmar instead of sleeping?

we want to give town three more days to figure out the correct option
plus not all of us think palmar is scum
wait never mind all of us think palmar is scum but I still wouldn't lynch him first
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 15:36 GMT
#1986
just look at the most recent way ve defends himself
On June 17 2016 22:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
There is literally no evidence I'm mafia. You are just describing thread sentiment. Everyone seems to THINK there is evidence against me, but no one thinks any of it is actually good. Just know I'm town and win with me. Vote Palmar.
so mafia
+ Show Spoiler +
what I'm saying is that ve should explain why palmar's most recent defense is "so mafia"
the "feels like my first game" thing is kinda narrative and kinda not
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 15:48 GMT
#1991
On June 18 2016 00:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2016 00:39 sicklucker wrote:
im not against lynching palmar ls. but I dont think we should do it today. I wouldd prefer 48 hours where palmar knows hes getting lynched. not a sneak attack with 5 hours left so no swictch

If he scum he will spew WIFOM until his lynch. If he's town we lose anyways.

if he's town the idea is to not lynch him
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 17:53 GMT
#1997
On June 18 2016 00:54 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2016 00:48 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 18 2016 00:45 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2016 00:39 sicklucker wrote:
im not against lynching palmar ls. but I dont think we should do it today. I wouldd prefer 48 hours where palmar knows hes getting lynched. not a sneak attack with 5 hours left so no swictch

If he scum he will spew WIFOM until his lynch. If he's town we lose anyways.

if he's town the idea is to not lynch him

If we going to lynch him next day phase why not do it now?

if he's town the idea is to not lynch him next day phase either
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 17:54 GMT
#1998
On June 18 2016 02:01 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck it i don't care anyone wants to follow I want to just lynch palmar now.
##vote: Palmar

this vote makes me really uncomfortable because it doesn't take much for scum to shenannie-win in lylo
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 18:32 GMT
#2001
On June 18 2016 03:07 sicklucker wrote:
yes infact if one more person votes palmar scum wins if hes town. so please dont do it yet

Actually mever mind. You and me and Palmar are already voting no-lynch and probably not changing so they can't shenannie us.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 17 2016 21:46 GMT
#2006
On June 18 2016 05:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Man my attempt at a bait on the scum team failed hard I was bating the team to vote Palmar with me to see if he was scum or town and with them not voting him with me it means he likely mafia. I guess we going to no lynch then.
##Unvote
##Vote: No-Lynch

how bad do you think scum is? even if they switched they'd need an extra vote to let it go through and they'd be totally exposed. it means nothing for palmar's alignment.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 18 2016 20:11 GMT
#2013
Last will:
SL and LS are 100% town. Defer to SL over anyone else.
Lynch Rels tomorrow.
Lynch VE or Palmar the day after.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 19 2016 00:00 GMT
#2021
Hope that Palmar vote is just pleasure because there can definitely be a team that doesn't include him. Feels pretty coinflippy.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 19 2016 04:53 GMT
#2023
yeah screw this I'm trying to filter dive palmar but there's just not enough there to pass a judgment
##vote palmar
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 19 2016 06:38 GMT
#2024
(palmar, the intent is that you resolve the issue)
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 19 2016 16:49 GMT
#2033
On June 19 2016 19:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
He'll just get on and scream about Rels some more right? I mean, that's all he can do.

##Vote: Palmar

For the record, I'm not voting to get him to type more things, I'm voting him to lynch him because I think he's mafia and we've let him skate by long enough. I don't know why you guys vote someone and then say "Now, this is just to make you do things"...like if they're mafia and they do things what then guys? What then?

I think he is probably mafia but not our safest lynch. It's either you or him and I'm trying to get the information to make that decision.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 19 2016 16:55 GMT
#2036
On June 19 2016 23:15 Rels wrote:
No I'm thinking sl is scum with palmar. No one else is scummy and there are things that point at him like him not being killed, chez being killed, him not playing the trap sl did when he's the one doing stuff like that usually, him not rereading the game when that's what he does at lylo

Hey Rels why is VE town
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 19 2016 16:57 GMT
#2037
On June 20 2016 01:51 sicklucker wrote:
so tumble while your hear can you explain why you missed the last 5-10 minutes of the deadline and almost caused a power role to be lynched?

I come and go as I please thank you very much
+ Show Spoiler +
Because I had to catch a bus
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 19 2016 17:02 GMT
#2041
On June 20 2016 01:59 sicklucker wrote:
I had no idea i had the biggest filter when I did that tho. I can garanteed you I have never had the biggest filter in the game ever as mafia. Theres a big drop off for me meta wise

Your grammar, spelling, and punctuation mystify me, SL.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 19 2016 18:25 GMT
#2050
On June 20 2016 02:15 sicklucker wrote:
Chez was kind of also keeping his reads close to his vest. (he did leave a last will but mafia would have had no time to react to those reads)

So whoever killed him was afraid of the unknown since everyone else had posted reads except for chez. Now im not sure who that would be but thats how I explain his nk in my head

wifom
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 19 2016 20:58 GMT
#2058
On June 20 2016 05:56 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2016 02:15 sicklucker wrote:
Chez was kind of also keeping his reads close to his vest. (he did leave a last will but mafia would have had no time to react to those reads)

So whoever killed him was afraid of the unknown since everyone else had posted reads except for chez. Now im not sure who that would be but thats how I explain his nk in my head

Whoever killed him didn't need him as a back up mislynch

wifom
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 19 2016 21:00 GMT
#2061
On June 20 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2016 05:58 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 20 2016 05:56 Rels wrote:
On June 20 2016 02:15 sicklucker wrote:
Chez was kind of also keeping his reads close to his vest. (he did leave a last will but mafia would have had no time to react to those reads)

So whoever killed him was afraid of the unknown since everyone else had posted reads except for chez. Now im not sure who that would be but thats how I explain his nk in my head

Whoever killed him didn't need him as a back up mislynch

wifom

I disagree. This kill makes ve town

No
Nightkill reads have never in the history of history been right. Too much noise, not enough signal.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 19 2016 21:01 GMT
#2063
On June 20 2016 05:57 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2016 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like can sicklucker do that as mafia? Yes. Does he? Debatable. I think not.

This post says nothing :p

Yeah it does
Use your thinking brain
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 19 2016 21:04 GMT
#2065
On June 20 2016 06:00 Rels wrote:
Like, if ve/palmar is the solution. The plan is to get a mislynch to win the game. So on me or on chez or on ls. In that position it makes 0 sense to kill both chez and ls.

It totally makes sense.
In a theoretical world that may or may not be this one, VE and Palmar are scum. Both SL and I are scumreading you. LS is focused on Palmar and Chez had few reads at all. Scum goes for the mislynch on you because you're the easiest, so they leave alive the people scumreading you.
Also LS was obvious town and Chez not a lynch target.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 19 2016 21:15 GMT
#2068
On June 20 2016 06:11 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2016 06:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 20 2016 06:00 Rels wrote:
Like, if ve/palmar is the solution. The plan is to get a mislynch to win the game. So on me or on chez or on ls. In that position it makes 0 sense to kill both chez and ls.

It totally makes sense.
In a theoretical world that may or may not be this one, VE and Palmar are scum. Both SL and I are scumreading you. LS is focused on Palmar and Chez had few reads at all. Scum goes for the mislynch on you because you're the easiest, so they leave alive the people scumreading you.
Also LS was obvious town and Chez not a lynch target.

It makes 0 sense when sl and you were considered town by everybody. Chez was a lynch target. I am not an easy target to get a mislynch on. I think it will lose scum the game actually

Rels
Scum is in LyLo
They only need one lynch to win
So they push one player hard and ignore the others
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 19 2016 23:39 GMT
#2079
Palmar, fill in the blanks (I assume your first scum is still Rels):
I think _____ is the second mafia because _____.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 19 2016 23:44 GMT
#2080
Does anyone want to shenanny Rels with me tomorrow
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 19 2016 23:53 GMT
#2081
On June 20 2016 07:51 sicklucker wrote:
but what tumble was saying makes alot of sense. if your town in the palmar/ve scum world they would leave me and tumble alive (as they have fucking done) because we both want to kill you. so fuck I hope your not town here because I want to lynch you so bad

Yeah this is three times I think where I've said "Rels how can you be so bad" and at that point there's just no way he's scrub town.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 03:30 GMT
#2082
On June 20 2016 07:56 Palmar wrote:
I'm back from country

I'll answer any questions tomorrow. Please do not throw the game because you're afraid I might be scum for not posting too much (which is NOT something that makes me mafia, I generally post more as the game progresses as mafia).

the "which is NOT something that makes me mafia" bugs me
is that within palmar's town meta to proactively say "this isn't a scumtell for me"?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 15:25 GMT
#2124
palmar I'm here but only sporadically
I don't actually plan on voting you till tomorrow but I'm not taking my vote off yet (ooh pressure wow)
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 15:25 GMT
#2125
On June 21 2016 00:23 Rels wrote:
Posting a case that doesn't make me scum 10 times don't make me scum more

ya it does now you're scum ten times
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 15:27 GMT
#2126
btw rels you're not doing anything getting angry at me. I know when someone else is right and I'm wrong, and I can tell when someone else is wrong and I'm right, and I'm good enough to know that your cases are bs.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 15:29 GMT
#2129
On June 21 2016 00:28 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 00:25 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 00:23 Rels wrote:
Posting a case that doesn't make me scum 10 times don't make me scum more

ya it does now you're scum ten times

this guy gets it

palmar talk to me
I don't know why I think that's just one of the things I'm supposed to do
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 15:42 GMT
#2131
On June 21 2016 00:41 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 00:27 Tumblewood wrote:
btw rels you're not doing anything getting angry at me. I know when someone else is right and I'm wrong, and I can tell when someone else is wrong and I'm right, and I'm good enough to know that your cases are bs.

Bad bad bad

agreed
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 16:01 GMT
#2132
palmar is ve scum
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 16:06 GMT
#2133
also, palmar, can you link me an instance of you saying (proactively) "this does NOT make me mafia" as town?
this game does not count.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 16:11 GMT
#2135
everyone else thinks it's weird how insecure and self-focused ve is, right? I'm not going crazy?
ve could you stop doing that it's making me think you're scum
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 16:27 GMT
#2137
On June 21 2016 01:16 sicklucker wrote:
tumble how are you leaning. does the rels/ve world scare you that much

tons
ve/palmar world scares me too but I keep remonding myself "it can't be real. it won't hurt me."
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 16:29 GMT
#2138
if ve is scum he's going for the "be as obvious as possible and they'll be too scared to lynch me" plan. and it might be working, I feel really uncomfortable lynching him.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 16:31 GMT
#2139
I'm fake afk for the next 30 minutes and real afk for two hours after that
having my vote on palmar so close to deadline scares me so
##unvote
##vote rels
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:03 GMT
#2151
ok I was gone for less time than expected
rels, if my reads didn't involve since the start of the game and I'm really wure of them, why is that an indicator that I am scum and not that I was mostly right and confident in my reads?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:08 GMT
#2154
On June 21 2016 02:46 Rels wrote:
Yep Tumble let's fight. I'm decided.

VE, SL: I'm asking for a DUEL with Tumble. Leave your vote on Palmar, so it's 3-2 Palmar-Rels. That's a risk you have to take. I'm taking it too.
If Palmar is not scum, the game is lost. That's part of the risk. He's very very likely scum though: town!Palmar appears decisive but he's actually always doubting and thinking about the game. He wouldn't 100% scumread me for all these days over something I'm known to do, IE tunneling someone because of only one post. But never once did he showed doubts about me.

Now if VE and SL are scum with palmar, the scum in there will switch to me and we lose the game right there. That is the risk I'm taking.
If no switch happens AND Palmar is scum, then VE and SL are confirmed town. And Tumble will be confirmed scum, and from his POV I will be the only one left to be pushed. 1V1 fight

there's something to make of this for sure
hold on while I think about things

...

alright I've got it
in a world where rels is with palmar rels is committing suicide but probably banking on his plan not working.
in a world where rels is with ve rels is hoping to get his one out mislynched today. that would definitely make sense.
in a world where ve is with palmar rels is a scrub.
hm maybe there wasn't anything to make of this
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:11 GMT
#2156
On June 21 2016 03:06 Rels wrote:
First this:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 01:51 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 01:29 Tumblewood wrote:
if ve is scum he's going for the "be as obvious as possible and they'll be too scared to lynch me" plan. and it might be working, I feel really uncomfortable lynching him.

What do you mean ?

What posts are you talking about here ?

generally ve is mentioning that he's town / he shouldn't be lynched / people shouldn't be scumreading him waaay more than a normal townie is and had some pretty horseshit posts at the start of the game. this is a) town!ve being weird and we shouldn't lynch him or b) scum!ve playing the "too scummy to be scum" card
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:13 GMT
#2158
On June 21 2016 03:09 Rels wrote:
Now my answer:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:03 Tumblewood wrote:
ok I was gone for less time than expected
rels, if my reads didn't involve since the start of the game and I'm really wure of them, why is that an indicator that I am scum and not that I was mostly right and confident in my reads?

1. cause town are almost never 100% right this early in the game. The last post that called all the mafia in D2 in a game was by rsoul in Himalayas, and it was so impressive she got a 2015 reward from that.
2. cause scum has an harder time changing reads than town because they need to fabricate the reasons for this change.

what I did not "100% right" though, it's 3 for 5. plus if I were scum I know not to be super right because being good is probably a scumtell for me.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:13 GMT
#2160
On June 21 2016 03:13 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:11 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:06 Rels wrote:
First this:
On June 21 2016 01:51 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 01:29 Tumblewood wrote:
if ve is scum he's going for the "be as obvious as possible and they'll be too scared to lynch me" plan. and it might be working, I feel really uncomfortable lynching him.

What do you mean ?

What posts are you talking about here ?

generally ve is mentioning that he's town / he shouldn't be lynched / people shouldn't be scumreading him waaay more than a normal townie is and had some pretty horseshit posts at the start of the game. this is a) town!ve being weird and we shouldn't lynch him or b) scum!ve playing the "too scummy to be scum" card

But this was posted after a set of posts by VE that I did not felt were "too scummy to be scum" ?

that was a feeling I was harboring for a while
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:16 GMT
#2163
I can't tell if the latest interactions between palmar and rels are genuine (aka palmar is town) or really good distancing
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:18 GMT
#2164
man it's really easy to see how scummy rels is when you start with the assumption that he's scum
ve too
palmar almost
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:25 GMT
#2171
On June 21 2016 03:19 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:13 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:13 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:11 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:06 Rels wrote:
First this:
On June 21 2016 01:51 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 01:29 Tumblewood wrote:
if ve is scum he's going for the "be as obvious as possible and they'll be too scared to lynch me" plan. and it might be working, I feel really uncomfortable lynching him.

What do you mean ?

What posts are you talking about here ?

generally ve is mentioning that he's town / he shouldn't be lynched / people shouldn't be scumreading him waaay more than a normal townie is and had some pretty horseshit posts at the start of the game. this is a) town!ve being weird and we shouldn't lynch him or b) scum!ve playing the "too scummy to be scum" card

But this was posted after a set of posts by VE that I did not felt were "too scummy to be scum" ?

that was a feeling I was harboring for a while

So what did you think of VE's last batch of posts ?

I ignored them when I went over them the first time
the second time I noticed that both you and ve don't think the other is scum which is weird because all of you/ve/palmar should be hard-scumreading the other two. I'd also expect more of a bus but then again if you can get away with a 3-2 vote for palmar why wouldn't you?
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:26 GMT
#2172
On June 21 2016 03:23 sicklucker wrote:
yes. and holy shit if mafia decides to kill ve over me were gonna have another rels/tumble/sl final 3. no thank you

please this time it's going to be really easy because this time I am obv town
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:26 GMT
#2174
On June 21 2016 03:22 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:21 sicklucker wrote:
also im kind of paranoid its gona shit up again. also I took a 3 day job starting toromorow that will take up alot of time. so if your gonna duel do it today imo

That's nonsense. Do you feel like making a game-turning decision with this little time ?

> tfw rels realizes he's going to lose the duel so he calls it off
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:31 GMT
#2177
sl you should vote rels instead of palmar
ve/palmar team 99% of the time doesn't exist and it eliminates the possibility of the me/you/rels lylo (though anyone/palmar/ve lylo is scarier)
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:44 GMT
#2190
On June 21 2016 03:34 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:31 Tumblewood wrote:
sl you should vote rels instead of palmar
ve/palmar team 99% of the time doesn't exist and it eliminates the possibility of the me/you/rels lylo (though anyone/palmar/ve lylo is scarier)

Did you already explain this ?

like the part where you're scum? yeah. it's not like palmar and ve don't make sense together as a team, it's that scumminess is distributed 50.5% palmar 50.5% ve 99% you
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:47 GMT
#2196
palmar stop being a dumbface and tell me about ve
here, I'll even create a fill-in-the-blanks for you:

Hi! My name is Palmar. My favorite hobbies include kicking puppies and not playing mafia, but today I want to tell you about a player named VisceraEyes. He is _____ this game because _______________.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:49 GMT
#2199
On June 21 2016 03:46 Rels wrote:
This doesn't make sense. VE / Palmar doesn't make sense because I am so scum ?

simple math
2 scum left. subtract 1 rels and you get 1 scum. ve and palmar would be 2 scums and 2 is more than 1, so ve and palmar can't both be scum.
I admit I shouldn't be so certain of it but there is notuniverse where I vote both ve and palmar over you.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:51 GMT
#2204
On June 21 2016 03:45 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:34 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:31 Tumblewood wrote:
sl you should vote rels instead of palmar
ve/palmar team 99% of the time doesn't exist and it eliminates the possibility of the me/you/rels lylo (though anyone/palmar/ve lylo is scarier)

Did you already explain this ?

like the part where you're scum? yeah. it's not like palmar and ve don't make sense together as a team, it's that scumminess is distributed 50.5% palmar 50.5% ve 99% you

Then why are you not OK killing Palmar ? You said all these things about Palmar being scum and VE being town.

pls my last five posts about ve have been "ve is maybe scum but hmmm I'm not sure" so of course I wouldn't want to coinflip on palmar/ve yet.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:53 GMT
#2208
On June 21 2016 03:51 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:49 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:46 Rels wrote:
This doesn't make sense. VE / Palmar doesn't make sense because I am so scum ?

simple math
2 scum left. subtract 1 rels and you get 1 scum. ve and palmar would be 2 scums and 2 is more than 1, so ve and palmar can't both be scum.
I admit I shouldn't be so certain of it but there is notuniverse where I vote both ve and palmar over you.

Which is why you're scum. Town do not have this kind of certainty

lol town tunnel all the time. remember jat game where I tunneled rsoul (I called her confscum several times) until she was NK'd? or xxi where tt tunneled super all game?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:55 GMT
#2210
On June 21 2016 03:54 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:53 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:51 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:49 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 03:46 Rels wrote:
This doesn't make sense. VE / Palmar doesn't make sense because I am so scum ?

simple math
2 scum left. subtract 1 rels and you get 1 scum. ve and palmar would be 2 scums and 2 is more than 1, so ve and palmar can't both be scum.
I admit I shouldn't be so certain of it but there is notuniverse where I vote both ve and palmar over you.

Which is why you're scum. Town do not have this kind of certainty

lol town tunnel all the time. remember jat game where I tunneled rsoul (I called her confscum several times) until she was NK'd? or xxi where tt tunneled super all game?

And what happened before the end of the game ?

BESIDES THE POINT
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:58 GMT
#2212
rels: calls everything his target does scum for bad reasons
me: those reasons are bad
rels: but see the scum motivation?
me: but why is it that motivation and not a townie motivation
rels: because scum wants to do this
me: no that's still bad
rels: no you're bad

they say the winner writes history
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 18:59 GMT
#2213
On June 21 2016 03:58 Rels wrote:
Tumble you have so many "XXX what do you think of YYY"' in your filter I don't know how I didn't catch this earlier. It looks like you said to yourself "OK I'm gonna be really questionning people this game" when the game started. And you usually do nothing with the answer.

I usually don't get an answer + Show Spoiler +
*cough cough PALMAR VE*
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 19:01 GMT
#2216
yeah I'm not spending another day yelling at rels
sl please switch pretty please
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 19:05 GMT
#2220
On June 21 2016 04:02 Rels wrote:
Seriously. D4 you townread VE and scumread Palmar. Since that post:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 09:26 Tumblewood wrote:
ve or palmar can one of you just play really townie (and one of you really scummy) for the next cycle so I can have less doubts
thank you

It's been 50/50 Palmar / VE never commiting to a read.

calling this scummy directly contradicts that one time you called me scummy for never evolving my reads
and spoiler neither of them work because I'm town
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 19:06 GMT
#2221
rels I don't care if you're town or scum either way you're a buttface
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 19:57 GMT
#2252
On June 21 2016 04:50 sicklucker wrote:
Like I think individually rels has been more scummy but your inactivity has just made your more likely to be with more people in my mind. Maybe im wrong on you like im still not decided but im certainly not lynching tumble today

not sure I get that. rels is scummier but palmar could be scum with more people? does that mean rels could only be with palmar (or ve or whoever) but palmar could be with rels or ve?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 19:58 GMT
#2253
On June 21 2016 04:54 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:21 sicklucker wrote:
also im kind of paranoid its gona shit up again. also I took a 3 day job starting toromorow that will take up alot of time. so if your gonna duel do it today imo


Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 03:23 sicklucker wrote:
yes. and holy shit if mafia decides to kill ve over me were gonna have another rels/tumble/sl final 3. no thank you


rels I don't think sl is actually so into the dueling idea as he was half an hour ago
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:01 GMT
#2256
On June 21 2016 04:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Stay the course boys. In also waiting for GoT until after deadline.

see this is what I don't like about ve. "nah guys just chill on palmar". he just shouldn't be so sure about this and also should have an opinion on something from the last two hours.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:02 GMT
#2257
screw this rels/ve scumteam
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:03 GMT
#2259
sl please please switch to rels it's a 50% chance that feels like a 100% chance palmar flips town and we lose
:/
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:04 GMT
#2260
On June 21 2016 05:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 05:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 04:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Stay the course boys. In also waiting for GoT until after deadline.

see this is what I don't like about ve. "nah guys just chill on palmar". he just shouldn't be so sure about this and also should have an opinion on something from the last two hours.

Not that you're not right but this is ironic coming from you

difference is I have a good case and ve's case is "it feels like some scum game palmar played four years ago"
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:06 GMT
#2264
plus the only reason I have to think palmar is scum is "he was inactive" (also fear)
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:06 GMT
#2267
On June 21 2016 05:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 05:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 05:02 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 05:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 04:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Stay the course boys. In also waiting for GoT until after deadline.

see this is what I don't like about ve. "nah guys just chill on palmar". he just shouldn't be so sure about this and also should have an opinion on something from the last two hours.

Not that you're not right but this is ironic coming from you

difference is I have a good case and ve's case is "it feels like some scum game palmar played four years ago"

Your case is palmar s case :p

+ continuation of palmar's case
and palmar's case is good
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:08 GMT
#2269
On June 21 2016 05:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also from the guy who was 100%on ME being mafia for the first 2 game days lol. TW reads mean nothing.

tbh any read on you or palmar right now (past "don't lynch yet") is super unstable
though my rels and sl reads are rock solid
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:09 GMT
#2270
On June 21 2016 05:08 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 05:06 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 05:05 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 05:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 05:02 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2016 05:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 21 2016 04:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Stay the course boys. In also waiting for GoT until after deadline.

see this is what I don't like about ve. "nah guys just chill on palmar". he just shouldn't be so sure about this and also should have an opinion on something from the last two hours.

Not that you're not right but this is ironic coming from you

difference is I have a good case and ve's case is "it feels like some scum game palmar played four years ago"

Your case is palmar s case :p

+ continuation of palmar's case
and palmar's case is good

No it isn't. I'm known for tunneling on little as town. It doesn't make me scum or town

I don't care that you're tunneling, I care that you're tunneling for bad reasons
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:10 GMT
#2273
I'm being double teamed D:
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:12 GMT
#2275
On June 21 2016 05:11 Rels wrote:
And even if you scumread me me being scummier than palmar is pretty hilarious

may I coin a new medical term
"delusions of towniness"
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:18 GMT
#2276
sl get in here we need you
even if you're on your phone a vote's a vote and we need three
ve feel free to switch anytime
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:18 GMT
#2277
but for real ve if rels isn't scum who of me and sl is?
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:22 GMT
#2279
y'know, I've done all I can do
if palmar flips town I take no credit for the loss
if palmar flips scum we've basically won
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:23 GMT
#2281
On June 21 2016 05:22 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2016 05:18 Tumblewood wrote:
but for real ve if rels isn't scum who of me and sl is?

I think he said it already

yeah but his filter is long and icky
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:53 GMT
#2317
On June 21 2016 05:45 sicklucker wrote:
well that was shitty timing is tumble here. i like having the hammer you have 15 minutes to convince me. palmar bleed town out of ur arse if ur town

I panic checked so hi
I don't really have a reason palmar's town except his page whatever interactions with rels
except ve could totally be scum for being way more sure of palmar's alignment than his case permits and for being so insecure about his towniness all game
rels is always scum for his bad casaes on kwahamot and me with bad reasons (my filter has more to this extent)

basically palmar is maybe scum but rels/ve is still possible and palmar/ve is a 1% chance so we should try not to take that risk before we have to
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:56 GMT
#2323
use your level.1 thinking on ve
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 20:58 GMT
#2328
it means I'm really stressed about the game and can't keep myself from checking it every two minutes
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 21:01 GMT
#2347
wtf though
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 21:05 GMT
#2359
On June 21 2016 06:01 Rels wrote:
GG bros
Couldn't see clearly with Tumble tunneling all game
Tumble you played this one super badly. Each time I came to the thread trying to solve the game you shut me down. Too bad

I still think your cases were bad and wrong
you tunneled really hard on townies yourself
:/
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 21:06 GMT
#2360
like I was pretty wrong but by no means the worst
the wrost part is that ve was right D:
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 21:13 GMT
#2369
sl played really well
rels was bad but so was I
koshi of course the worst
at least I didn't go to thursday and lose
:/
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 21:14 GMT
#2370
k actually rels you were probably alright but super tunneled
:/
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 21:15 GMT
#2373
see this is why I need to roll scum
so I can not lose like this
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 21:17 GMT
#2378
kush worst player didn't even try
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 21:18 GMT
#2382
On June 21 2016 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW why kill me when I was only right on palmar?

because I was hard scumreading rels and the two scum could win with that lylo
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 21:26 GMT
#2398
On June 21 2016 06:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
How did Tumble not switch to Palmar after he saw SL switch? That's what I want to know

on mobile
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 21:26 GMT
#2400
I play on mobile 80% of the time including this entire deadline
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 21:27 GMT
#2401
probably too tunneled to call sl scum for it though
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 21:29 GMT
#2406
every time I'm wrong on something like this I make a rule for myself that if I ever think someone is 100% scum (or shape is anything) I should vote the opposite because it's always wrong
and "this time is the one" every time
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 21:40 GMT
#2421
should probably not let myself call anyone not named ls or koshi and not a blue 100% town either
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 21:50 GMT
#2425
On June 21 2016 06:44 sicklucker wrote:
If koshis doesint die its interesting . I think were still big favorites we just kill koshi and have to get chez or tumble lynched. I would like to think palmar would have tried more. I think palmar is a huge fan of trying as little as possible to win like me

if koshi doesn't get modkilled you have me/ls/chez/rels/ve/koshi vs. you and palmar
you could probably go palmar/ve/rels in some order, I'd have bought it
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 20 2016 21:51 GMT
#2426
man when does presidential start I have the itch again
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