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quote me now bitches Early early D1 On June 07 2016 06:10 sicklucker wrote: but really I want to kill shape for that. Reasons being hes the kind of guy who would acualy do something cute like that, where i just do it to fuck with people. Example how many of you guys remember pyp where I was third party and shapelog was mafia? He rolecoped me and made jokes / notions that he knew I was an alien all game as a cute thing to show off postgame with. Ya murder this man sl, shape is cute regardless of alignment and you should (probably) know that. sl and shape probably not a team though. On June 07 2016 06:28 LightningStrike wrote: NAI items so far from sicklucker and Shape seems to just be trolling to me. Kinda amused sicklucker and Shape are voting each other but neverless it just NAI items. ls trying so hard to say things, it's adorable. could definitely see this coming from town!ls, scum!ls I have not seen. really not very much in early early d1 because it's all spam and half-assed reads, big surprise. okay I just filtered LS because I couldn't handle the suspense of not figuring out his alignment and he's not very out there (+ hasn't shown that he really cares about anything). not for sure scum but no reason to TR him yet. early D1 (this is everything else I guess) On June 07 2016 06:55 wherebugsgo wrote: yeah we should kill Palmar looks like wbg has played with palmar, so he shouldn't be saying this, unless wbg is also not serious and I'm an idiot. On June 07 2016 07:20 KelsierSC wrote: that is an excellent report of what happened in the game, thank you. I just found it weird that palmar called you and Damdred mafia, and you were more concerned with damdred than being like "palmar wtf get off me". this is pretty smart kelsier can be town for now stuff I spoilered because it's irrelevant [/spoiler] On June 07 2016 07:37 Damdred wrote: This is a smart post, kel can go in the town pile for now as well. oh hey lol damdred said the same thing as me. On June 07 2016 11:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: how the fuck did this start already... i cant play right now im super busy. REPLACE PLZ hi kush I'm you now [/spoiler] kind of like sl for asking this question, as a test for kwahamot. (and he passed... no follow-up from sl, which is eh because it wasn't really worthy of a follow-up, but kwahamot gets about one and a half town points for that) On June 08 2016 07:06 Rels wrote: ##Vote Kwahamot Prepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread. The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum. Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff. rather confident of rels for a read on a player's first-ever post. On June 08 2016 08:26 sicklucker wrote: bugs seems to think palmar is this tryhard player and is suspicous of his lack of posts. But that was in the 80's. We all know the corrent palmar but I can see why he would focus on palmer since hes probably the only one here hes ever played with (you know in the 80's?) so he does not look that bad for focusing on him imo. smart post indicates sl was thinking about the game which indicates that he cares about the game which slightly indicates that he's town. I found the post where it says I replace so I'm stopping there | ||
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- where bugs go the original story has me in tears On June 08 2016 10:18 Shapelog wrote: Idk, Tumble did you actually get your wish, and replaced in as scum, and now will be able to have a scum meta after what? 8-9 games? ![]() nope can't even get a scum role PM when I steal someone else's - dammit the thing I spoilered didn't spoiler | ||
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damdred shape scum palmar kelsier sl koshi town rest unknown I agree with palmar's reads so far | ||
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ve people who literally made me laugh so hard that I literally died literally: chez shape that one time | ||
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On June 08 2016 10:34 Shapelog wrote: Only thing you meation about Damdred in your list. me Palmar is not even on your catch up post. You can go ahead and explain the reads on those 3 btw. The fact you got something other than Null for Palmar interests me copying that thing kelsier said, why do you care about my damdred scumread more than my you scumread re: damdred read feels re: palmar read I agree with him so clearly he's leading us to the d1 scum lynch also feels | ||
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On June 08 2016 11:09 Shapelog wrote: Was the bold the reason why I am scum? Did you actually read the response I gave? alright on damdred But how the fuck is Palmar leading anyone onto anything? even if you think Damdred is scum, Palmar hasn't been fucking here leading anyone. not the reason you're scum, you didn't ask for that reason. that's just another reason. the real reason is high volume low presence (aka you make up a quarter of the thread's post but aren't making an outsize contribution). of course palmar's not leading us yet but with the combined force of some possible effort later on and tl's hardon for him anything can happen. most of that was to say that I agree with his reads. | ||
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On June 08 2016 12:09 wherebugsgo wrote: you know, I actually thought I had a pretty good read on you until this post. The observation is fine, and it's actually a pretty townie thing to say, but the manner has me confused. What bothers me about this post is that the callout isn't direct. I would expect that if you're town you'd just call me out directly and even vote me if that's what you actually think, but in this case it was completely indirect, something I think mafia would be more likely to do because they don't take the attention of making such a strong statement. I like Kelsier's later clarification that the person who said this was me, because that was more direct, but he doesn't get as much credit for it because he wasn't actually the first to point it out. this is never a scum tactic this is an "I finished reading and there's this thing I remember from four pages ago but I don't remember who did it" tactic | ||
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confused by why wbg cares so much about palmar's opinion on shape could probably find the answer in his filter but that's too many clicks | ||
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really town sl koshi sorta town kelsier palmar null ls rels done nothing of note ve kwahamot chezinu scum team damdred shape wbg I think I'm done for the night, and the game. my reads can't get any more 100% correct than this. | ||
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On June 08 2016 16:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Like how has Palmar done any more than me? Seriously though, I've given reads on people, explained them to the best of my ability AND been able to answer questions (mostly, I hear ya Bugs) That fact alone makes me suspect that ALL of these reads are fabricated and meaningless. ##Vote: Tumblewood "you said palmar has been notable and I haven't" --> "all your reads are bs" and you only had two non-fluff posts anyway this is so bad | ||
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On June 08 2016 17:52 KelsierSC wrote: I've got a couple of questions for you tumble. First one is about palmar and your read list. You have made it clear that you agree with palmar and that your scum reads are like his. I'm curious why you needed to qualify that palmar agrees with you when he didn't give any explanation for his reads. To me your shapelog and damdred reads don't have any weight because your damdred read looks like it is just copied from palmar and shapelog is based on something he already answered ,"high volume low contribution" and because palmar agreed. I guess the question im getting at is a chicken or the egg style. is palmar town because he agrees with your reads, or are you making your reads based on town reading palmar. The second question which ties into the first one is about your scum read of wbg, I don't really understand where this comes from, if you could put specifically what he did that you found scummy that would be great. I will look over the rest of your list at some point but as VE pointed out some of it looks strange. my palmar read is based on the fact that we have the same scumreads (and reading through the thread we formed them from about the same set of posts). my damdred and shapelog reads are unrelated to my palmar read I found wbg scummy because he spend his first 20 posts talking about palmar and asking palmar for his opinions. he made that big wall of text that lines up well with my read on shape so I think he's okay now. | ||
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On June 08 2016 18:13 Koshi wrote: also unlikely. TW is lock town because his reads are based on reading the thread and he he had to read the thread after replacing in. what this doesn't make sense of course my reads are based on reading the thread, so are everyone else's. what are we supposed to do, throw darts at a list of names? | ||
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a game without a voting thread? huzzah! ##Vote: Shapelog I like where bugs are going with this | ||
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no I'm doing my best jat impression your read is no better than "he's lock town for signing up for the game" and I want you to explain it | ||
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On June 09 2016 02:13 Shapelog wrote: Never a scum tatic, tho top scum. Not to mention your read on me is so fucking wrong it hurts my eyes. It makes butterflies fly out of the town. On June 09 2016 02:09 Shapelog wrote: I did ask for me, and fair i guess. Am working out content tho. I am predicting that Palmar hasn't posted, so tumble, do you actually know his reasoning behind the votes/reads of his? Because up to this post at least, he hasn't explain any of them, so it is kinda hard to agree with a read that looks like: "Damdred scum, shape mostly scum" I just refuse to believe that you, out of all people, who I know can play smart and usually do, is sheeping a person who hasn't even explained their reads, and agreeing with said none explained reads. ITT: Shape misinterprets everything I say, Rels makes everything Shape and Kwahamot do scummy | ||
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On June 09 2016 03:24 Chezinu wrote: Facts: ##unvote ##vote Tumblewood Analysis: Note 13: Maybe this will give Tumblewood a motive to convince us how he is different from a Shapelog. Purpose of Post: 1. To demonstrate my panic induced scumhunting. what but why am I scum I get the sense your scumhunting is panic induced | ||
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On June 09 2016 03:08 Rels wrote: He's scumreading me for reasons that are not believable. He doesn't have this aura of "fuck you I do what I want" that he has as town, especially on D1. He claims to be good at reading new player but misses the obvious scumtells in the two posts of the new player playing this game. He didn't spew himself town. If he's town he will at some point. didn't see his reasons for scumreading you but all your other points are bad he's been a pretty normal amount of cavalier this game your third point is really bad because it assumes that town!sl would read kwahamot in the exact same way that you are which is ridiculous to expect your spewing himself town read, as I remember it, is when he gets worked up about something and makes a bunch of posts about it in a short time. I've seen him do that once or twice now. | ||
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On June 09 2016 03:42 Damdred wrote: @sl, rels and koshi Who am I lynching today so I an hit scum damdred I can't believe you'd ever sheep koshi to hit scum isn't palmar your designated shepherd | ||
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On June 09 2016 03:48 Damdred wrote: ##unvote ##vote Tumblewood This is fine my buddy rels wants him dead damdred wtf are you doing - deciding to sheep rels - not going after either of his solid scumreads - voting me, town god, of all people | ||
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On June 09 2016 03:51 Damdred wrote: Sure let me just sheep Palmar unto myself yeah didn't you want to hit scum | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:41 sicklucker wrote: a doctor would not claim a doctor... he would claim a tracker... you wouldn't have but I don't think shape claims a different blue role here or shape is vet ![]() | ||
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but anyway that might not be a fakeclaim if no cc we shouldn't lynch, simple as that ##unvote ##vote: damdred | ||
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damdred is probably best lynch now | ||
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Rels pls Everyone else pls Going 0/5 on shape When did Damdred claim I get to move all my bubble scums up to regular scum (watch out rels/ve) Blech | ||
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really town sl koshi shape damdred ls townish wbg null palmar kelsier chezinu could lynch rels would lynch ve | ||
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On June 10 2016 03:07 wherebugsgo wrote: I am like...98% sure VE is scum. Kill him. 95% sure Kelsier is also scum after a couple rereads. Kill him too. The last one is the most difficult but there's a good chance it's Palmar. If it's not Palmar then probably Tumble. From there down the list who knows, very far down probably LS or Chezinu but I doubt it. hey bugs I'm not opposed kelsier being scum but I'm no sure why he would be. cam you explain that read to me? | ||
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![]() ##unvote ##vote: artanis | ||
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I'd quote posts for you but instead go read all of his analysis on page 50. all of it is good. | ||
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I don't wanna deal with cc wars right now I'm going to sleep and when I wake up I'll see what everyone's agreed on and sheep that or something ##unvote ##vote visceraeyes | ||
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anyway, I have no clue who the mafia is of those two so I'll chill on the sidelines of the debate for now. | ||
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On June 11 2016 03:13 Chezinu wrote: I've been in games where he was mafia and deceived the majority of town to thinking he was town. That's why I'm cautious about him. Especially, when his votes don't look good. koshi is an erratic town player who is usually wrong but a million times more motivated than he is as scum. I can say with total confidence this game that he is town, really easy player to read. | ||
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On June 11 2016 10:22 wherebugsgo wrote: this game is so weird Every game feels like that when you're playing it | ||
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Koshi SL Art wbg are all super town LS is town ??? Rels/Palmar/Chez possible scum VE probable scum Rels makes sense with VE or Palmar Palmar/VE kind of doesn't make sense Chez can be scum with literally anyone Doing this from memory and I realize how little I remember about D1 interactions | ||
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Now I do care about stuff Koshi, please calm down, you could cost a ML and possibly the game (not that it's your fault if we lose) The next four lynches should 100% go Art -> VE -> Rels/Palmar -> Palmar/Rels. Art is confirmed scum and VE is nearly so too for spewing horseshit all game (will quote when it's not midnight). Rels and Palmar are the only non-super townies left after that (besides Chez... prayers, prayers). | ||
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##vote: artanis | ||
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There are 6 players left in this game who are not named Artanis or Tumblewood. 2 of them are scum. SL and LS are never lynches. VE is probably townie after that interaction with Koshi. Rels is scum for his shitty push on Kwah. One of Palmar and Chez is therefore scum. Palmar looks townie this game and Chez has not interacted with the game at all outside of voting every 72 hours. I have no clue which one is actually mafia, or maybe it really is VE. | ||
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that is how much your comments make me laugh artanis hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha | ||
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On June 11 2016 06:54 Chezinu wrote: it's okk. I just don't want to believe that the host messed up on a vote count against a mafia. It that was true.. I don't know what type of game this is. You should have trolled that you were town pretending to be a tracker to save yourself despite not caring about getting lynch day 1. yet you came back. then left and came back. one instant apathetic to dying and another fighting back til the end. The inconsistency has caused your demise. chez is townish I guess this is a good comment that is unlikely to come from a mafia | ||
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Artanis/Rels/VE are the scumteam | ||
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ls I hardly have a scum meta because my only scum games were my first one (newbie XIX) and my fourth that I replaced into (newbies and vets). been getting better about the lynchbait thing though, been pretty solidly town for three games running. appreciate the townread but you do need a better reason to townread me than that my town meta is lynchbait-y. | ||
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On June 08 2016 16:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Like how has Palmar done any more than me? Seriously though, I've given reads on people, explained them to the best of my ability AND been able to answer questions (mostly, I hear ya Bugs) That fact alone makes me suspect that ALL of these reads are fabricated and meaningless. ##Vote: Tumblewood the promised horseshit quoting is here. this quote is so bad, not because ve sees himself in the nothing tier and palmar above it and assumes I say palmar has done more, but because he acts like he's been productive when he had two non-fluff posts prior to that point and one of them was super lame. ALSO he sees himself and palmar (in his mind) out of order and he feels that that alone is justification for a vote. also "I bet all these reads are made up" jesus christ how bad do you think I am. | ||
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On June 09 2016 18:36 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm actually fine with Palmar all of a sudden. It's the strangest thing. XD I would have killed him yesterday, but now I think he's town. Maybe it's because I still don't believe Damdred's claim and he was still on Damdred with me. AFK maybe, but probably not. He despises D1 claims.+ Show Spoiler + Damdred's claim was shit. Like...he didn't act like a Tracker the whole game, he seemed completely divested from the game, which has only been made worse SINCE his claim. I don't know about you, but when I am a role and I claim it under duress, I have a reaction. A hard one. Damdred had no reaction. Like I said - I've seen Palmar play awfully on D1 before, even recently. Honestly I'm gonna have to see what he does between now and tomorrow, if he dies, etc. I'm not sure about Tumble. I'm having a hard time getting motivated, to be honest. I don't even want to read his super short filter because I know the whole thing just says "Lynch VE" over and over. Same thing with Koshi - I don't even want to try and read Koshi right now. in which ve assumes people have been talking about him good news though is that first sentence means for sure that palmar and ve are Not A Team | ||
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On June 14 2016 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote: TW Will you look at my post on LS and tell me what you think? Humor me plz. what post pls link | ||
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On June 14 2016 06:55 LightningStrike wrote: http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/509751-names-are-hard-mini-mafia?page=85#1689 I can totally believe LS might put excessive faith in blue claims. Still would not lynch. | ||
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On June 15 2016 00:56 sicklucker wrote: 4,337 km icelan to toronto 5,754 km port to toronto na not even close im bored posting in thread about stupid things when you're bored is definitely a townie thing. mafia just doesn't post in that case. im also bored | ||
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On June 15 2016 07:13 LightningStrike wrote: If flipped town we would of lost so yep he was mafia. See, stuff like this is why LS is town. | ||
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Rels is right that this is the best play but I'm still lynching him tomorrow. | ||
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If VE is town, scum wins because they can force LyLo with LS and VE and win. If he's scum with Rels, he busses Rels and kills LS and forces LyLo with SL and Palmar and wins. If he's with Palmar, they go for the mislynch on Rels and maybe win. | ||
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On June 16 2016 07:26 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't know about Rels. He could be mafia, but Palmar pushing on him is strange. Like if they're partners why? And if they're not I certainly would rather lynch Palmar than Rels. Did you see SL's post about bussing being the best play in 3v2 or 4v2 LyLo? If Palmar busses Rels and it goes through he gets all the cred, if it doesn't he wins on the spot. | ||
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On June 16 2016 07:46 Rels wrote: Wow it looks like it's palmar tumble after all. Tumble being so convinced of no lynching then changing his mind because a town said so is pretty scummy Rels, this is a terrible case because a) I was not "so convinced" of no-lynching, nor did I change my mind for that reason, and b) That's not even scummy if I did. | ||
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On June 16 2016 07:49 Rels wrote: Tumble your take on palmar case on me pretty please ? yeah it's probably correct. I think your push on kwahamot was scummy too. | ||
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Because in theory no-lynching is always best, but then I thought about it for a moment, and when you add real players who get tunneled it's probably worse than me or SL being there because those are the only ones I trust to finish this game right. Back atcha, Rels: What about that switch made you think I was scum? | ||
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On June 16 2016 07:57 Rels wrote: Scum naturally wants to lynch today and not have to lie during more and more days. So you being OK to no lynch because it's the right thing to do then not doing it looks like you're scum posting the right thing to do at first but going with the natural inclination at the first occasion Why would I do that though Why would I have 'the correct' stance for a couple minutes then change my mind Why wouldn't I put forth my current stance initially Why wouldn't I just vote no-lynch and go semi-inactive for a cycle? It's not like I'd get punished for autoing. There's just no scum motivation in what I did but you're acting like there is. | ||
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On June 16 2016 08:03 Rels wrote: I just explained the fucking scum motivation just because you scumread me doesn't give you the fucking right to not read what I've daif Rels, use your thinking brain here. If I'm scum, you said, I would want to look like I'm doing the right thing and then switch to lynching today so I can win immediately. I counter by asking why, if I'm scum, that would be the best play, because there are several options that are just as good. | ||
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On June 16 2016 08:16 Rels wrote: Motherfucker just because your brain can't comprehend others doesn't mean you're right ![]() | ||
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On June 16 2016 21:10 LightningStrike wrote: Ugh did you not read recent posts about VE? I townreading him now it just both of us were tunneling each other but now we not tunneling each other. Okay if you're TRing VE I assume your scumteam is Palmar/Rels? Huh this LyLo might work after all. ##Unvote | ||
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On June 16 2016 17:20 Rels wrote: Yes it does. There is no confirmed town in this game. If there was fucking chez wouldn't have been killed last night Hey, can't help that mafia's a bunch of scrubs. LS, though, has made posts I don't think scum!LS could ever make, and SL has been townie throughout the whole game. | ||
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Rels said that one time: Tumble why is Palmar scum somewhere between poe and that he was wrong on D1 (and again on D2). I'm just not feeling ve as scum and can't really explain why, and it's not like Palmar's done anything to clear his name. makes him scum about two-thirds of the time. ##vote: no-lynch | ||
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On June 17 2016 02:23 Rels wrote: Tumble the way you're playing makes me think you' re scum a lot. You're sucking your townreads' dicks; SL can't be wrong about his assertion of the situation, LS can't be scum ... but more than that you are so sure Palmar is scum than you don't want to no-lynch because you think LS and VE will fight when you / SL / me are dead, but you still want to lynch me and your only reason to do so is a case your other scumread made. The way you just assimilates the things that interests you and adds nothing from your perspective is different from the JAT game where you had your beliefs and they were weird and your own. but am I scum yeah I'm confident in my townreads, my town circle is rad this game and I am 100% confident in it. and no I don't trust LS to vote the right scummy person in 2v1 lylo. and yeah I think you're scum for the same reason palmar does and no I don't care that palmar's doing the same thing, he's probably bussing anyway. and yeah it is kind of weird that I've mostly synthesized what everyone else says but yeah I'm still town. | ||
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a) you see information, and you make conclusions from it (in the form of X is scummy) that a townie could not reasonably conclude. it comes as either a huge leap to a conclusion or that you say "it benefits scum" and don't consider whether scum would have done something else or whether town would have done that too. examples: kwah case D1, case on me today. b) you call me (and occasionally LS) scummy but then don't actually call me scum. it's like you want me lynched but you don't want to say so. and here is why I think palmar is probably scum: a) wrong on both his scumreads D1 and his vote on D2. apparently being wrong D1 is a scumtell for palmar. b) who else is, eh? and here is why ve is probably town: a) he's been very genuine this game. it seems like he actually believes what he's saying when he gets pissed that someone's scumreading him or he tunnels on someone. b) he's been so horseshit with some of his reads to the point that scum knows they'll get called out on it and town doesn't care. shit, I'm confirmation biased to all hell on palmar/ve. | ||
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On June 17 2016 05:22 Palmar wrote: SL you're bad if you think not only that I'm right on Rels but in addition that I'm his scummate Why couldn't you be bussing Rels? | ||
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On June 11 2016 04:45 VisceraEyes wrote: WAIT HOLY SHIT On June 11 2016 04:46 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay nevermind. I thought I remembered something huge from earlier, but it was nothing. this is either town or good attention to detail | ||
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On June 12 2016 06:31 VisceraEyes wrote: Jesus Fuckery we had 3 towns up for lynch on D1. Worst game ever. again same thing I think someone pointed this out earlier, that this post implies that ve only realized we had 3 towns up for lynch on D1 later, like reverse TMI | ||
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On June 17 2016 22:40 VisceraEyes wrote: There is literally no evidence I'm mafia. You are just describing thread sentiment. Everyone seems to THINK there is evidence against me, but no one thinks any of it is actually good. Just know I'm town and win with me. Vote Palmar. Evidence: Horseshit cases and complaining about scumreads through all of D1 Yes it is evidence | ||
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On June 18 2016 00:09 LightningStrike wrote: Palmar is mafia because he didn't vote scum at all Day 1 or Day 2 which is normally a huge indicator that he's town. Plus he wasn't NK'd Night 2 which he would normally be NK'd by if he's town especially with this player list. yeah at that point usually palmar would die, unless scum thinks they can get the mislynch? couldn't have foreseen the drop in activity though. ve I still want to hear you explain your read. | ||
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On June 18 2016 00:29 Rels wrote: Tumble I have a hard time picturing you as scum because all of your posts look so natural. ya that tends to happen when someone rolls town | ||
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On June 18 2016 00:31 LightningStrike wrote: Why can't we lynch palmar instead of sleeping? we want to give town three more days to figure out the correct option plus not all of us think palmar is scum wait never mind all of us think palmar is scum but I still wouldn't lynch him first | ||
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On June 17 2016 22:40 VisceraEyes wrote: so mafiaThere is literally no evidence I'm mafia. You are just describing thread sentiment. Everyone seems to THINK there is evidence against me, but no one thinks any of it is actually good. Just know I'm town and win with me. Vote Palmar. + Show Spoiler + what I'm saying is that ve should explain why palmar's most recent defense is "so mafia" the "feels like my first game" thing is kinda narrative and kinda not | ||
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On June 18 2016 00:45 LightningStrike wrote: If he scum he will spew WIFOM until his lynch. If he's town we lose anyways. if he's town the idea is to not lynch him | ||
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On June 18 2016 00:54 LightningStrike wrote: If we going to lynch him next day phase why not do it now? if he's town the idea is to not lynch him next day phase either | ||
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On June 18 2016 02:01 LightningStrike wrote: Fuck it i don't care anyone wants to follow I want to just lynch palmar now. ##vote: Palmar this vote makes me really uncomfortable because it doesn't take much for scum to shenannie-win in lylo | ||
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On June 18 2016 03:07 sicklucker wrote: yes infact if one more person votes palmar scum wins if hes town. so please dont do it yet Actually mever mind. You and me and Palmar are already voting no-lynch and probably not changing so they can't shenannie us. | ||
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On June 18 2016 05:32 LightningStrike wrote: Man my attempt at a bait on the scum team failed hard ![]() ##Unvote ##Vote: No-Lynch how bad do you think scum is? even if they switched they'd need an extra vote to let it go through and they'd be totally exposed. it means nothing for palmar's alignment. | ||
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SL and LS are 100% town. Defer to SL over anyone else. Lynch Rels tomorrow. Lynch VE or Palmar the day after. | ||
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##vote palmar | ||
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On June 19 2016 19:27 VisceraEyes wrote: He'll just get on and scream about Rels some more right? I mean, that's all he can do. ##Vote: Palmar For the record, I'm not voting to get him to type more things, I'm voting him to lynch him because I think he's mafia and we've let him skate by long enough. I don't know why you guys vote someone and then say "Now, this is just to make you do things"...like if they're mafia and they do things what then guys? What then? I think he is probably mafia but not our safest lynch. It's either you or him and I'm trying to get the information to make that decision. | ||
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On June 19 2016 23:15 Rels wrote: No I'm thinking sl is scum with palmar. No one else is scummy and there are things that point at him like him not being killed, chez being killed, him not playing the trap sl did when he's the one doing stuff like that usually, him not rereading the game when that's what he does at lylo Hey Rels why is VE town | ||
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On June 20 2016 01:51 sicklucker wrote: so tumble while your hear can you explain why you missed the last 5-10 minutes of the deadline and almost caused a power role to be lynched? I come and go as I please thank you very much + Show Spoiler + Because I had to catch a bus | ||
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On June 20 2016 01:59 sicklucker wrote: I had no idea i had the biggest filter when I did that tho. I can garanteed you I have never had the biggest filter in the game ever as mafia. Theres a big drop off for me meta wise Your grammar, spelling, and punctuation mystify me, SL. | ||
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On June 20 2016 02:15 sicklucker wrote: Chez was kind of also keeping his reads close to his vest. (he did leave a last will but mafia would have had no time to react to those reads) So whoever killed him was afraid of the unknown since everyone else had posted reads except for chez. Now im not sure who that would be but thats how I explain his nk in my head wifom | ||
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On June 20 2016 05:56 Rels wrote: Whoever killed him didn't need him as a back up mislynch wifom | ||
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No Nightkill reads have never in the history of history been right. Too much noise, not enough signal. | ||
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Yeah it does Use your thinking brain | ||
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On June 20 2016 06:00 Rels wrote: Like, if ve/palmar is the solution. The plan is to get a mislynch to win the game. So on me or on chez or on ls. In that position it makes 0 sense to kill both chez and ls. It totally makes sense. In a theoretical world that may or may not be this one, VE and Palmar are scum. Both SL and I are scumreading you. LS is focused on Palmar and Chez had few reads at all. Scum goes for the mislynch on you because you're the easiest, so they leave alive the people scumreading you. Also LS was obvious town and Chez not a lynch target. | ||
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On June 20 2016 06:11 Rels wrote: It makes 0 sense when sl and you were considered town by everybody. Chez was a lynch target. I am not an easy target to get a mislynch on. I think it will lose scum the game actually Rels Scum is in LyLo They only need one lynch to win So they push one player hard and ignore the others | ||
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On June 20 2016 07:51 sicklucker wrote: but what tumble was saying makes alot of sense. if your town in the palmar/ve scum world they would leave me and tumble alive (as they have fucking done) because we both want to kill you. so fuck I hope your not town here because I want to lynch you so bad Yeah this is three times I think where I've said "Rels how can you be so bad" and at that point there's just no way he's scrub town. | ||
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On June 20 2016 07:56 Palmar wrote: I'm back from country I'll answer any questions tomorrow. Please do not throw the game because you're afraid I might be scum for not posting too much (which is NOT something that makes me mafia, I generally post more as the game progresses as mafia). the "which is NOT something that makes me mafia" bugs me is that within palmar's town meta to proactively say "this isn't a scumtell for me"? | ||
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I don't actually plan on voting you till tomorrow but I'm not taking my vote off yet (ooh pressure wow) | ||
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On June 21 2016 00:23 Rels wrote: Posting a case that doesn't make me scum 10 times don't make me scum more ya it does now you're scum ten times | ||
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palmar talk to me I don't know why I think that's just one of the things I'm supposed to do | ||
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this game does not count. | ||
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ve could you stop doing that it's making me think you're scum | ||
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On June 21 2016 01:16 sicklucker wrote: tumble how are you leaning. does the rels/ve world scare you that much tons ve/palmar world scares me too but I keep remonding myself "it can't be real. it won't hurt me." | ||
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having my vote on palmar so close to deadline scares me so ##unvote ##vote rels | ||
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rels, if my reads didn't involve since the start of the game and I'm really wure of them, why is that an indicator that I am scum and not that I was mostly right and confident in my reads? | ||
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On June 21 2016 02:46 Rels wrote: Yep Tumble let's fight. I'm decided. VE, SL: I'm asking for a DUEL with Tumble. Leave your vote on Palmar, so it's 3-2 Palmar-Rels. That's a risk you have to take. I'm taking it too. If Palmar is not scum, the game is lost. That's part of the risk. He's very very likely scum though: town!Palmar appears decisive but he's actually always doubting and thinking about the game. He wouldn't 100% scumread me for all these days over something I'm known to do, IE tunneling someone because of only one post. But never once did he showed doubts about me. Now if VE and SL are scum with palmar, the scum in there will switch to me and we lose the game right there. That is the risk I'm taking. If no switch happens AND Palmar is scum, then VE and SL are confirmed town. And Tumble will be confirmed scum, and from his POV I will be the only one left to be pushed. 1V1 fight there's something to make of this for sure hold on while I think about things ... alright I've got it in a world where rels is with palmar rels is committing suicide but probably banking on his plan not working. in a world where rels is with ve rels is hoping to get his one out mislynched today. that would definitely make sense. in a world where ve is with palmar rels is a scrub. hm maybe there wasn't anything to make of this | ||
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On June 21 2016 03:06 Rels wrote: First this: What posts are you talking about here ? generally ve is mentioning that he's town / he shouldn't be lynched / people shouldn't be scumreading him waaay more than a normal townie is and had some pretty horseshit posts at the start of the game. this is a) town!ve being weird and we shouldn't lynch him or b) scum!ve playing the "too scummy to be scum" card | ||
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On June 21 2016 03:09 Rels wrote: Now my answer: 1. cause town are almost never 100% right this early in the game. The last post that called all the mafia in D2 in a game was by rsoul in Himalayas, and it was so impressive she got a 2015 reward from that. 2. cause scum has an harder time changing reads than town because they need to fabricate the reasons for this change. what I did not "100% right" though, it's 3 for 5. plus if I were scum I know not to be super right because being good is probably a scumtell for me. | ||
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On June 21 2016 03:13 Rels wrote: But this was posted after a set of posts by VE that I did not felt were "too scummy to be scum" ? that was a feeling I was harboring for a while | ||
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On June 21 2016 03:19 Rels wrote: So what did you think of VE's last batch of posts ? I ignored them when I went over them the first time the second time I noticed that both you and ve don't think the other is scum which is weird because all of you/ve/palmar should be hard-scumreading the other two. I'd also expect more of a bus but then again if you can get away with a 3-2 vote for palmar why wouldn't you? | ||
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On June 21 2016 03:23 sicklucker wrote: yes. and holy shit if mafia decides to kill ve over me were gonna have another rels/tumble/sl final 3. no thank you please this time it's going to be really easy because this time I am obv town | ||
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On June 21 2016 03:22 Rels wrote: That's nonsense. Do you feel like making a game-turning decision with this little time ? > tfw rels realizes he's going to lose the duel so he calls it off | ||
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ve/palmar team 99% of the time doesn't exist and it eliminates the possibility of the me/you/rels lylo (though anyone/palmar/ve lylo is scarier) | ||
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like the part where you're scum? yeah. it's not like palmar and ve don't make sense together as a team, it's that scumminess is distributed 50.5% palmar 50.5% ve 99% you | ||
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here, I'll even create a fill-in-the-blanks for you: Hi! My name is Palmar. My favorite hobbies include kicking puppies and not playing mafia, but today I want to tell you about a player named VisceraEyes. He is _____ this game because _______________. | ||
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On June 21 2016 03:46 Rels wrote: This doesn't make sense. VE / Palmar doesn't make sense because I am so scum ? simple math 2 scum left. subtract 1 rels and you get 1 scum. ve and palmar would be 2 scums and 2 is more than 1, so ve and palmar can't both be scum. I admit I shouldn't be so certain of it but there is notuniverse where I vote both ve and palmar over you. | ||
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On June 21 2016 03:45 Rels wrote: Then why are you not OK killing Palmar ? You said all these things about Palmar being scum and VE being town. pls my last five posts about ve have been "ve is maybe scum but hmmm I'm not sure" so of course I wouldn't want to coinflip on palmar/ve yet. | ||
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On June 21 2016 03:51 Rels wrote: Which is why you're scum. Town do not have this kind of certainty lol town tunnel all the time. remember jat game where I tunneled rsoul (I called her confscum several times) until she was NK'd? or xxi where tt tunneled super all game? | ||
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BESIDES THE POINT | ||
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me: those reasons are bad rels: but see the scum motivation? me: but why is it that motivation and not a townie motivation rels: because scum wants to do this me: no that's still bad rels: no you're bad they say the winner writes history | ||
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On June 21 2016 03:58 Rels wrote: Tumble you have so many "XXX what do you think of YYY"' in your filter I don't know how I didn't catch this earlier. It looks like you said to yourself "OK I'm gonna be really questionning people this game" when the game started. And you usually do nothing with the answer. I usually don't get an answer + Show Spoiler + *cough cough PALMAR VE* | ||
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sl please switch pretty please | ||
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On June 21 2016 04:02 Rels wrote: Seriously. D4 you townread VE and scumread Palmar. Since that post: It's been 50/50 Palmar / VE never commiting to a read. calling this scummy directly contradicts that one time you called me scummy for never evolving my reads and spoiler neither of them work because I'm town | ||
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On June 21 2016 04:50 sicklucker wrote: Like I think individually rels has been more scummy but your inactivity has just made your more likely to be with more people in my mind. Maybe im wrong on you like im still not decided but im certainly not lynching tumble today not sure I get that. rels is scummier but palmar could be scum with more people? does that mean rels could only be with palmar (or ve or whoever) but palmar could be with rels or ve? | ||
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rels I don't think sl is actually so into the dueling idea as he was half an hour ago | ||
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On June 21 2016 04:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Stay the course boys. In also waiting for GoT until after deadline. see this is what I don't like about ve. "nah guys just chill on palmar". he just shouldn't be so sure about this and also should have an opinion on something from the last two hours. | ||
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On June 21 2016 05:02 Rels wrote: Not that you're not right but this is ironic coming from you difference is I have a good case and ve's case is "it feels like some scum game palmar played four years ago" | ||
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+ continuation of palmar's case and palmar's case is good | ||
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On June 21 2016 05:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Also from the guy who was 100%on ME being mafia for the first 2 game days lol. TW reads mean nothing. tbh any read on you or palmar right now (past "don't lynch yet") is super unstable though my rels and sl reads are rock solid | ||
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On June 21 2016 05:08 Rels wrote: No it isn't. I'm known for tunneling on little as town. It doesn't make me scum or town I don't care that you're tunneling, I care that you're tunneling for bad reasons | ||
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On June 21 2016 05:11 Rels wrote: And even if you scumread me me being scummier than palmar is pretty hilarious ![]() may I coin a new medical term "delusions of towniness" | ||
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even if you're on your phone a vote's a vote and we need three ve feel free to switch anytime | ||
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if palmar flips town I take no credit for the loss if palmar flips scum we've basically won | ||
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On June 21 2016 05:45 sicklucker wrote: well that was shitty timing is tumble here. i like having the hammer you have 15 minutes to convince me. palmar bleed town out of ur arse if ur town I panic checked so hi I don't really have a reason palmar's town except his page whatever interactions with rels except ve could totally be scum for being way more sure of palmar's alignment than his case permits and for being so insecure about his towniness all game rels is always scum for his bad casaes on kwahamot and me with bad reasons (my filter has more to this extent) basically palmar is maybe scum but rels/ve is still possible and palmar/ve is a 1% chance so we should try not to take that risk before we have to | ||
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On June 21 2016 06:01 Rels wrote: GG bros Couldn't see clearly with Tumble tunneling all game Tumble you played this one super badly. Each time I came to the thread trying to solve the game you shut me down. Too bad I still think your cases were bad and wrong you tunneled really hard on townies yourself :/ | ||
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the wrost part is that ve was right D: | ||
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rels was bad but so was I koshi of course the worst at least I didn't go to thursday and lose :/ | ||
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so I can not lose like this | ||
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On June 21 2016 06:15 LightningStrike wrote: BTW why kill me when I was only right on palmar? because I was hard scumreading rels and the two scum could win with that lylo | ||
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On June 21 2016 06:24 VisceraEyes wrote: How did Tumble not switch to Palmar after he saw SL switch? That's what I want to know ![]() on mobile | ||
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and "this time is the one" every time | ||
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On June 21 2016 06:44 sicklucker wrote: If koshis doesint die its interesting . I think were still big favorites we just kill koshi and have to get chez or tumble lynched. I would like to think palmar would have tried more. I think palmar is a huge fan of trying as little as possible to win like me if koshi doesn't get modkilled you have me/ls/chez/rels/ve/koshi vs. you and palmar you could probably go palmar/ve/rels in some order, I'd have bought it | ||
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