Names Are Hard mini mafia

On June 07 2016 06:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote LightningStrike

Easy game

On June 07 2016 06:30 LightningStrike wrote:

Hi drunk!Rels maybe you should get sober?

On June 07 2016 06:31 Damdred wrote:


This amazing sheep could be yours if the price is right.

Come on down KEL! Put that vote down where you think is the correct path (pst its sheep damdred thats the game).

If you do this wonderful prize will be yours

*audience gasps*

A TOWN VICTORY!

On June 07 2016 06:32 LightningStrike wrote:

What sometimes being sober you could think straight lol.

On June 07 2016 06:33 LightningStrike wrote:

Idk can't tell if serious or trolling me again. You probably are scum if you actually 100% serious with that.

On June 07 2016 06:34 LightningStrike wrote:

Sounds half-assed backwardfs to normal logic bro. There is a reason we make drinking alcohol and driving or Doing drugs while driving is illegal here in the USA.

On June 07 2016 06:37 LightningStrike wrote:

Ya because we just have a bunch of dumbasses that can't see how he would be as a president. I seriously never understood why people supporting him at all.

On June 07 2016 06:44 LightningStrike wrote:

I was just giving him some advice dude :o

On June 07 2016 06:47 LightningStrike wrote:

And you ruined the joke I was referencing

On June 07 2016 06:51 Rels wrote:
Alright see you tomorrow

On June 07 2016 06:54 Rels wrote:

Motherfucker

On June 07 2016 06:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
yeah we should kill Palmar

On June 07 2016 06:57 wherebugsgo wrote:


false.

Proof:
You exist.
Q.E.D.

On June 07 2016 07:03 Palmar wrote:
tbh if he is mafia I get the credit not you kelsier because I said it first.

On June 07 2016 07:05 Shapelog wrote:
Yeah i get that a lot.
Don't worry, if I am scum, all my team mates will be dead by Day 3, because I bus them to hell.

but, in a attempt to get the ball really rolling,
why is thou scum?

On June 07 2016 07:11 Shapelog wrote:

Oh I misunderstood the post :/

Anyone who wants to.

On June 07 2016 07:16 Shapelog wrote:

Yes, I want to know what Palmar thinks about Damdred and why he voted him in his own words.
I also then ask him and u basically why you think moi is scum.
?

On June 07 2016 07:22 Shapelog wrote:

Well Maybe because he posted the Damdred vote before he said he scum read me?

On June 07 2016 07:29 Shapelog wrote:

The difference of time between the 2 posts is 3 mins. You really think me taking 3 mins to do something is that scummy.

Like there is a list of things I could do in 3 mins

On June 07 2016 07:37 Damdred wrote:


This is a smart post, kel can go in the town pile for now as well.

On June 07 2016 07:39 Shapelog wrote:

But the time that the bolded happen was a total of 3 mins.
Hell I could gone to the bathroom, used it, and came back, and that could explain what it took me so long to type the next post.

I mean what really happen was that I watched Yu Gi No again for the 50th time, but still.

On June 07 2016 07:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Phone posting atm: I think KSC is town atm he been trying to get a better understanding of Shapelog's posts.

On June 07 2016 17:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi boys I'm town. I've skimmed and so far I'm not really comfortable calling anyone anything with any certainty, though based on the way bugs and Palmar have interacted I'd say I think they are at least not mafia together. I have a few light townreads, but nothing worth sharing at this time. Will do a more thorough reading later on, but for now I like this D1. Lots of inquisitive people, I don't think much bullshit is gonna fly.

On June 07 2016 17:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi boys I'm town. I've skimmed and so far I'm not really comfortable calling anyone anything with any certainty, though based on the way bugs and Palmar have interacted I'd say I think they are at least not mafia together. I have a few light townreads, but nothing worth sharing at this time. Will do a more thorough reading later on, but for now I like this D1. Lots of inquisitive people, I don't think much bullshit is gonna fly.

On June 07 2016 18:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
The only conclusion I gave was that I don't think Palmar and Bugs are on the same mafia team, and I think that's self-evident from their posts, as I said. The way bugs votes him, asks people about him, interacts with him, it just doesn't look like mafia-mafia.

On June 07 2016 17:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi boys I'm town. I've skimmed and so far I'm not really comfortable calling anyone anything with any certainty, though based on the way bugs and Palmar have interacted I'd say I think they are at least not mafia together. I have a few light townreads, but nothing worth sharing at this time. Will do a more thorough reading later on, but for now I like this D1. Lots of inquisitive people, I don't think much bullshit is gonna fly.

On June 07 2016 17:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm with my man Chezinu on this one.

##Vote: KelsierSC

He may be the Survivor of Hathsin, but he won't survive this town.

On June 07 2016 18:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I also think it's silly how he introduces his introduction by calling it an introduction.

On June 07 2016 19:00 VisceraEyes wrote:

Silly as in silly. As in Spongebob caveman silly. *facepalm*

On June 08 2016 06:59 Rels wrote:
I could lynch Damdred.
I can understand the idea that kush's replacement is 100% null. But Koshi I don't understand why you're so sure he faked it.

On June 07 2016 18:42 KelsierSC wrote:


I quoted the same thing twice my bad. I meant between these





I agree with your point about bugs and palmar.

On June 08 2016 07:11 Rels wrote:

Because his joky town about LS is very similar to what he did last game, and scum usually imitates their last town game to appear townie, especially early game; while a townie just doesn't care about stuff like that and does his thing. Plus what Koshi said, the Shape townread in particular is weird and seems to be there only because Shape was super active early.

On June 08 2016 07:06 Rels wrote:

##Vote Kwahamot
Prepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread.
The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum.
Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff.

On June 08 2016 07:19 Koshi wrote:

I agree. But can we really disagree with it?

On June 08 2016 07:20 KelsierSC wrote:


well no i'm not saying Kwahamot is town based on his opening post.

But he's just a noob right, got to give him some love and hope he blossoms into a beautiful flower

On June 08 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
Also the guy who said "everybody who posted so far is town"' got a serious scumpoint for making that comment.

Everything that was said was pretty shit till up to that point. Giving everybody townreads for that is just more likely mafia not being able to think of something, than a townie actually being happy with how the thread was going.

On June 08 2016 06:24 LightningStrike wrote:

I not VE but I can answer this: Ya he did this in our last game together in H O L Y F * * * E Mafia at least for the most part of Day 1. I willing to give him a pass for now.

On June 08 2016 07:36 Rels wrote:

I have no idea where he is going with that push

On June 08 2016 07:37 Rels wrote:

We are a great team

On June 08 2016 07:44 LightningStrike wrote:

Mainly Chez I don't remember him being this troll you day 1 as town.

On June 08 2016 08:00 VisceraEyes wrote:

I don't really know what Palmar has done frequently as town, though I think he HAS done it as town in recent games I've played with him. It's not enough for me to say I think he's mafia for it, that's for sure. I'd expect more of an agenda actually.

I'm now willing to add Shapelog to the townpile and Koshi probably too, though I disagree with his read on Kelsier. I still like killing Kelsier right now, though some of the more potent lurkers are totally gaining on him for my ire.

The thing I don't like about Kelsier is how he went from joking around to super srs in one post. Like it's around a period of no one really socializing and everyone kinda getting to business (at least that's what I remember from last night's skim) and what he's posted today hasn't really done much for me the way it has Koshi. Not really sure what's smart about what Kelsier has said that Koshi likes.

Anyway, that's what I gots people. Still voting for Kelsier, until the shenannies start happening and people start making actual reasoned accusations. Mine is feels. Deals wit it.

On June 08 2016 15:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm going to ignore tomahawk for now because he's doing some incredibly stupid things but stupid != scum and I would prefer the certainty of a better lynch over lynching a newbie.

##unvote
##vote Shapelog

tl;dr of what follows: I won't be around much in the next 12 hours, but we should kill Shapelog. Shapelog is meek, nonconfrontational, says a lot but doesn't contribute anything, and is suspected by pretty much everyone. Best lynch we'll get today. Details follow.

I would ordinarily be annoyed with the number of noncontributors we have but I'm actually pretty happy with the state of my reads of those people who actually have posted. The process of elimination should become easier with a bit more time. With that said, since I probably won't be here to drive the lynch, I propose that we kill Shapelog today.

1. Pretty much everyone in the game has said that they are suspicious of Shape, but only one person has actually voted with those suspicions. This is often an indication that someone is just skating by, a pretty big scum trait, whereas people who very obviously stick out are generally not scum. I'm fairly certain we'd get a good amount of blowback to a lynch effort on Shapelog as well, which would be great, because I seriously doubt that the resistance would make Shapelog look better.

2. Shapelog constantly pratters on and on without seeming to actually contribute anything. Given that Shapelog has like 1/5 of this game's posts, you would think that it would be easy to figure out Shapelog's reads and thoughts on the game with a single read-through of the game. Yet, nothing has stuck out, and I cannot actually recall anything Shapelog has said of substance without going filter diving and detail hunting.

3. I found myself spotting a lot of posts of Shapelog's that are of the "I'm going to do X" or "hi I'm here" kind of thing. The self-focus is very strong, and not something that many townies do. Examples:













and, next post, emphasis mine:



Note that I could go back and find a dozen other posts with the exact same theme, but the idea here is that Shapelog spends a gigantic amount of time saying things like "I'm going to do X" which are incredibly self-focused and seem to just be intended at convincing the thread that useful things are being done.

4. Both of Shapelog's suspicion posts have been of the form "would not mind lynching", as opposed to the more towny approach of "I think this dude is scum, let me vote him and convince all of the rest of you why we should kill him." Shapelog's approach at least from my perspective has been more in the camp of "let me see what sticks by meekly calling a bunch of different people suspicious and then go with the flow".





5. Shapelog has been completely nonconfrontational, meek, and unsure/wishy washy. It seems that players that pressure even slightly will cause Shapelog to give way. Examples:





(what is the point of that post even? it's a self reply!)



I think I could keep going but I think I've said enough to show my point (and I want to see if other people see other things that I did not explicitly mention).

If anybody sees anything that causes them to think Shapelog is town, please point it out. There are a couple things that lead me to be a bit unsure but I'd be curious if anyone else notices them. Also if anyone thinks there is a better lynch, please provide one. I'll be around for a couple hours before the lynch is over and I will be able to catch up on the thread and vote but I won't be able to push anything beyond what I'm doing now.

On June 08 2016 13:49 Tumblewood wrote:
tumblewood esteemed 100% accurate sometimes reads list

really town
sl
koshi

sorta town
kelsier
palmar

null
ls
rels

done nothing of note
ve
kwahamot
chezinu

scum team
damdred
shape
wbg

I think I'm done for the night, and the game. my reads can't get any more 100% correct than this.

On June 08 2016 14:27 Kwahamot wrote:


Well how should I put this.. This is a response post! Responding to both Shapelog's original response and Rels' claim.

I just wanted to bless the thread with some dry humor. The introduction is the introduction. I made that post and prepared it and I'm making this post right now because I've had a busy start to the game and I wanted to get my thoughts down in one go but I'll address my small portions of inactivity next time.

I've briefly skimmed the analysis pinned to be able to make a few day 1 calls. The "excuse" was to put things into perspective perhaps some of you guys expect me to immediately fit like a puzzle into this game. I don't think my reads were all that random by the way and I don't think I'd be helping if I talked about the weather as opposed to my "serious" stuff. At least we're talking about me now right? I think the facilitation of discussion makes your case of being town much stronger actually.


On to my main point and the overdue response to Shapelog, Rels, I believe you are reading backwards. Although I did claim that I don't have the experience to read you guys in the game, I never said I was a newbie and I think you would be fishing a little bit. You haven't really been saying much.. you responded to my introduction and called out the replacement soo heres some pressure ##Vote: Rels

Back to Shapelog, the amount of mafia experience? well some amount I guess mostly offline. I lurked a few threads but never really followed one actively

On June 08 2016 13:04 sicklucker wrote:
on further review of rels filter

##unvote ##vote rels

On June 08 2016 18:14 Koshi wrote:

Nha sicklucker can be anything. I was just lazy and didn't change that read from Tumble. Pretty sure I earlier said sl has potential but is null.

Rels is town for the reason I gave. sl voting Rels is something I haven't looked into yet.