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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 23:01 GMT
#1901
On June 16 2016 07:57 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 07:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:50 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:49 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:
Wow it looks like it's palmar tumble after all. Tumble being so convinced of no lynching then changing his mind because a town said so is pretty scummy

Rels, this is a terrible case because
a) I was not "so convinced" of no-lynching, nor did I change my mind for that reason, and
b) That's not even scummy if I did.

Why did you change your mind then ?

Because in theory no-lynching is always best, but then I thought about it for a moment, and when you add real players who get tunneled it's probably worse than me or SL being there because those are the only ones I trust to finish this game right.
Back atcha, Rels: What about that switch made you think I was scum?

Scum naturally wants to lynch today and not have to lie during more and more days. So you being OK to no lynch because it's the right thing to do then not doing it looks like you're scum posting the right thing to do at first but going with the natural inclination at the first occasion

Why would I do that though
Why would I have 'the correct' stance for a couple minutes then change my mind
Why wouldn't I put forth my current stance initially
Why wouldn't I just vote no-lynch and go semi-inactive for a cycle? It's not like I'd get punished for autoing.
There's just no scum motivation in what I did but you're acting like there is.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 23:03 GMT
#1902
And if I'm scum I've effectively won already.
good times for all
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 15 2016 23:03 GMT
#1903
On June 16 2016 08:01 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 07:57 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:50 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:49 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:
Wow it looks like it's palmar tumble after all. Tumble being so convinced of no lynching then changing his mind because a town said so is pretty scummy

Rels, this is a terrible case because
a) I was not "so convinced" of no-lynching, nor did I change my mind for that reason, and
b) That's not even scummy if I did.

Why did you change your mind then ?

Because in theory no-lynching is always best, but then I thought about it for a moment, and when you add real players who get tunneled it's probably worse than me or SL being there because those are the only ones I trust to finish this game right.
Back atcha, Rels: What about that switch made you think I was scum?

Scum naturally wants to lynch today and not have to lie during more and more days. So you being OK to no lynch because it's the right thing to do then not doing it looks like you're scum posting the right thing to do at first but going with the natural inclination at the first occasion

Why would I do that though
Why would I have 'the correct' stance for a couple minutes then change my mind
Why wouldn't I put forth my current stance initially
Why wouldn't I just vote no-lynch and go semi-inactive for a cycle? It's not like I'd get punished for autoing.
There's just no scum motivation in what I did but you're acting like there is.

I just explained the fucking scum motivation just because you scumread me doesn't give you the fucking right to not read what I've daif
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 15 2016 23:04 GMT
#1904
And I think your flip flop on artanis / damdred was super townie. So no I don't think you're scum anymore
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 15 2016 23:05 GMT
#1905
On June 16 2016 08:03 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 08:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:57 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:50 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:49 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:
Wow it looks like it's palmar tumble after all. Tumble being so convinced of no lynching then changing his mind because a town said so is pretty scummy

Rels, this is a terrible case because
a) I was not "so convinced" of no-lynching, nor did I change my mind for that reason, and
b) That's not even scummy if I did.

Why did you change your mind then ?

Because in theory no-lynching is always best, but then I thought about it for a moment, and when you add real players who get tunneled it's probably worse than me or SL being there because those are the only ones I trust to finish this game right.
Back atcha, Rels: What about that switch made you think I was scum?

Scum naturally wants to lynch today and not have to lie during more and more days. So you being OK to no lynch because it's the right thing to do then not doing it looks like you're scum posting the right thing to do at first but going with the natural inclination at the first occasion

Why would I do that though
Why would I have 'the correct' stance for a couple minutes then change my mind
Why wouldn't I put forth my current stance initially
Why wouldn't I just vote no-lynch and go semi-inactive for a cycle? It's not like I'd get punished for autoing.
There's just no scum motivation in what I did but you're acting like there is.

I just explained the fucking scum motivation just because you scumread me doesn't give you the fucking right to not read what I've daif

More calmly
Assuming you're town you don't realize sleeping is hard to do as scum. So you don't wanna sleep. But you don't want to no sleep because that's scummy. Ok
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 23:07 GMT
#1906
On June 16 2016 08:03 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 08:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:57 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:50 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:49 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:
Wow it looks like it's palmar tumble after all. Tumble being so convinced of no lynching then changing his mind because a town said so is pretty scummy

Rels, this is a terrible case because
a) I was not "so convinced" of no-lynching, nor did I change my mind for that reason, and
b) That's not even scummy if I did.

Why did you change your mind then ?

Because in theory no-lynching is always best, but then I thought about it for a moment, and when you add real players who get tunneled it's probably worse than me or SL being there because those are the only ones I trust to finish this game right.
Back atcha, Rels: What about that switch made you think I was scum?

Scum naturally wants to lynch today and not have to lie during more and more days. So you being OK to no lynch because it's the right thing to do then not doing it looks like you're scum posting the right thing to do at first but going with the natural inclination at the first occasion

Why would I do that though
Why would I have 'the correct' stance for a couple minutes then change my mind
Why wouldn't I put forth my current stance initially
Why wouldn't I just vote no-lynch and go semi-inactive for a cycle? It's not like I'd get punished for autoing.
There's just no scum motivation in what I did but you're acting like there is.

I just explained the fucking scum motivation just because you scumread me doesn't give you the fucking right to not read what I've daif

Rels, use your thinking brain here. If I'm scum, you said, I would want to look like I'm doing the right thing and then switch to lynching today so I can win immediately. I counter by asking why, if I'm scum, that would be the best play, because there are several options that are just as good.
good times for all
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 15 2016 23:10 GMT
#1907
On June 16 2016 08:07 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 08:03 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 08:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:57 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:50 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:49 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:
Wow it looks like it's palmar tumble after all. Tumble being so convinced of no lynching then changing his mind because a town said so is pretty scummy

Rels, this is a terrible case because
a) I was not "so convinced" of no-lynching, nor did I change my mind for that reason, and
b) That's not even scummy if I did.

Why did you change your mind then ?

Because in theory no-lynching is always best, but then I thought about it for a moment, and when you add real players who get tunneled it's probably worse than me or SL being there because those are the only ones I trust to finish this game right.
Back atcha, Rels: What about that switch made you think I was scum?

Scum naturally wants to lynch today and not have to lie during more and more days. So you being OK to no lynch because it's the right thing to do then not doing it looks like you're scum posting the right thing to do at first but going with the natural inclination at the first occasion

Why would I do that though
Why would I have 'the correct' stance for a couple minutes then change my mind
Why wouldn't I put forth my current stance initially
Why wouldn't I just vote no-lynch and go semi-inactive for a cycle? It's not like I'd get punished for autoing.
There's just no scum motivation in what I did but you're acting like there is.

I just explained the fucking scum motivation just because you scumread me doesn't give you the fucking right to not read what I've daif

Rels, use your thinking brain here. If I'm scum, you said, I would want to look like I'm doing the right thing and then switch to lynching today so I can win immediately. I counter by asking why, if I'm scum, that would be the best play, because there are several options that are just as good.

Because playing scum is hard and it is hard to give up the to not sleep. Sicklucker baited me with this in that game where I was scum and you were my mislynch. I should have sleeper and I voted that actually but he just had to say "let's lynch tumble" for me to vote you
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 15 2016 23:12 GMT
#1908
And actually the more I think about it the scummier it is. Maybe you just got baited in the exact trap I was baited in that previous game :D
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 15 2016 23:15 GMT
#1909
On June 10 2016 14:09 Tumblewood wrote:
Of the two tracker claims, Art is scum. There's a reason I preferred lynching Shape to lynching Damdred that I avoided saying earlier in the game: I was concerned that I was seeing Damdred's blue meta. Damdred as blue gets himself scumread to avoid a NK (source: Storm, Holyf***e). This is my scum meter for him: [image loading] plus that whole thing about Kelsier tracking but being completely absent, Art is the scum.
##unvote
##vote: artanis

But this followed by the whole doubts then going to damdred is super townie though ... jf you're scum these are some very good posts
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 23:15 GMT
#1910
Rels, my new scumread for you is calling people scum for bad reasons.

whoops did I say that
good times for all
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 15 2016 23:16 GMT
#1911
Ok I'm fired up and ready to analyse shit will definitely reread the game tomorrow now. Good night!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 15 2016 23:16 GMT
#1912
On June 16 2016 08:15 Tumblewood wrote:
Rels, my new scumread for you is calling people scum for bad reasons.

whoops did I say that

Motherfucker just because your brain can't comprehend others doesn't mean you're right
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 23:17 GMT
#1913
Probably should only do that once you flip, in truth, but I confess I'm a little eager.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 15 2016 23:17 GMT
#1914
On June 16 2016 08:16 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 08:15 Tumblewood wrote:
Rels, my new scumread for you is calling people scum for bad reasons.

whoops did I say that

Motherfucker just because your brain can't comprehend others doesn't mean you're right

good times for all
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 16 2016 04:21 GMT
#1915
On June 16 2016 06:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Incredible, someone else who was probably never ever voting for VE! :OOOOOOOOOO


i think he had you as palmar as mafia with maybe me if I read chezina langauge right. But to be honest I had no idea what his reads were and you might be right making his nk really weird. Even weirder was he was around at deadline to post like he expected it lol
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 16 2016 04:34 GMT
#1916
anyway it looks like chez posted his read list just as he died. I doubt mafia changed their nk or could even do it last second because of that. so im more curious what chez known reads were before those last posts he made for example I dont think he suspected me at all untill that post
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 16 2016 04:37 GMT
#1917
On June 12 2016 06:10 Chezinu wrote:
Facts:

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 06:06 Chezinu wrote:
Facts:

On June 09 2016 06:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Night 1



Kwahamot the VT
has been lynched!

until daytime.

KelsierSC is issued a warning for failure to vote. Any further infractions by him will result in a modkill.




Day 1 final Votecount

Visceraeyes(0) koshi
kwahamot(6) rels, damdred lightningstrike koshi koshi sicklucker chezinu
rels(1) sicklucker kwahamot
Kelsiersc(0) Chezinu, visceraeyes
Shapelog (0): sicklucker wherebugsgo koshi tumblewood palmar, chezinu lightningstrike koshi sicklucker
LightningStrike (0): Damdred
Palmar (0): wherebugsgo
Damdred (3): Palmar koshi, koshi, Palmar visceraeyes shapelog, Shapelog, tumblewood chezinu
sicklucker (0): Shapelog
tumblewood(0) visceraeyes chezinu Damdred
wherebugsgo (1): shapelog

not voting , KelsierSC,



Analysis:

List 2:

Lightningstrike
nnn_thekushmountainstumblewood
rels
shapelog
koshi
chezinu
wherebugsgo
visceraeyes
KelsierSC
damdred
sicklucker
kwahamot
Palmar


Analysis:

List 3:

Lightningstrike
nnn_thekushmountainstumblewood
rels
shapelog
koshi
chezinu
wherebugsgo
visceraeyes
KelsierSC
damdred
sicklucker
kwahamot
Palmar

Note 19: The host really did neglect to include two votes against a mafia. I didn't want to believe the host was corrupt. But it seems it is true..



this was his most recent list before that. which yes has you as town ve so it is weird for mafia to kill him if you are in fact mafia. after this he talks pretty much just in chezuna code about his reads saynig bff shit if anyone wants to decipher
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 16 2016 04:38 GMT
#1918
also we have 0 vote logic to go on with this game.. sign..

maybe we can look at who was interested in the day 1 lynch but thats thin
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 16 2016 04:42 GMT
#1919
as for no sleeping we should probably vote on that before the acual lynch since there seems to be some interest not to sleep from ve and tumble. Yes sleeping is always best but we have also already waited a fucking week and im pretty biased because like tumble said im probably the nk anyway and unlike jat Im not a pussy and I like to decide games and not have other people do it for me. (just keep me out of final 3's mafia fuck that)
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 16 2016 04:48 GMT
#1920
official sleep or no sleep vote count

sleep - rels
no sleep - ve/tumbles

if you guys acualy want to no sleep make it known asap tho so we have the most time...
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