• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:01
CEST 19:01
KST 02:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202531Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder8EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced38BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Classic: "Serral is Like Hitting a Brick Wall" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation Serral wins EWC 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 692 users

Names Are Hard mini mafia - Page 11

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 17 Next All
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2016 17:52 GMT
#1948
On June 17 2016 02:43 sicklucker wrote:
how does tumble play scum

no idea. I think I read somewhere about him not playing a scum game in a very long time so it might be hard to have an idea of his scum meta too but it's worth to try I suppose. Another good side of having a lot more hours ^^
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2016 18:28 GMT
#1952
On June 17 2016 03:22 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 02:23 Rels wrote:
Tumble the way you're playing makes me think you' re scum a lot. You're sucking your townreads' dicks; SL can't be wrong about his assertion of the situation, LS can't be scum ... but more than that you are so sure Palmar is scum than you don't want to no-lynch because you think LS and VE will fight when you / SL / me are dead, but you still want to lynch me and your only reason to do so is a case your other scumread made.
The way you just assimilates the things that interests you and adds nothing from your perspective is different from the JAT game where you had your beliefs and they were weird and your own.

but am I scum
yeah I'm confident in my townreads, my town circle is rad this game and I am 100% confident in it. and no I don't trust LS to vote the right scummy person in 2v1 lylo. and yeah I think you're scum for the same reason palmar does and no I don't care that palmar's doing the same thing, he's probably bussing anyway.
and yeah it is kind of weird that I've mostly synthesized what everyone else says but yeah I'm still town.

I don't know. This post right there is townie p: I have a hard time finding out a second scum besides Palmar. I'll see what I think when I resume reading the game but that won't be tonight that's for sure
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 17 2016 11:01 GMT
#1969
On June 17 2016 03:35 Tumblewood wrote:
rels, here is why I think you're scum:
a) you see information, and you make conclusions from it (in the form of X is scummy) that a townie could not reasonably conclude. it comes as either a huge leap to a conclusion or that you say "it benefits scum" and don't consider whether scum would have done something else or whether town would have done that too. examples: kwah case D1, case on me today.

Wrong. I considered all of this so this is wrong. Tomahawk's posts ARE scum indicative. You wanting to no lynch then agreeing to lynch someone IS scum indicative.
On June 17 2016 03:35 Tumblewood wrote:
b) you call me (and occasionally LS) scummy but then don't actually call me scum. it's like you want me lynched but you don't want to say so.

Where did I call LS scummy ? I don't want you lynched, I want scum lynched and you could be scum. Or not I don't know who I want to lynch besides Palmar. If I was scum I would do like Palmar is doing and just set on my targets and not appear indecisive like I am.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 17 2016 15:29 GMT
#1982
Tumble I have a hard time picturing you as scum because all of your posts look so natural.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 17 2016 15:38 GMT
#1987
On June 18 2016 00:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Why can't we lynch palmar instead of sleeping?

Because one more kill means more info.
Because more time to play means more time to analyse shit.
Because I still haven't have the time to finish my reread of the game because of my work.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2016 14:15 GMT
#2027
No I'm thinking sl is scum with palmar. No one else is scummy and there are things that point at him like him not being killed, chez being killed, him not playing the trap sl did when he's the one doing stuff like that usually, him not rereading the game when that's what he does at lylo
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2016 14:15 GMT
#2028
##Vote Palmar
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2016 20:54 GMT
#2054
On June 20 2016 01:55 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2016 23:15 Rels wrote:
No I'm thinking sl is scum with palmar. No one else is scummy and there are things that point at him like him not being killed, chez being killed, him not playing the trap sl did when he's the one doing stuff like that usually, him not rereading the game when that's what he does at lylo

Hey Rels why is VE town

I saw several posts from ve that seemed super townie. In particular the one you also agreed that it showed too low information
Plus the chez nk makes 0 sense for a ve / palmar team because palmar /ve / chez / me were the logical potential next lynches so killing one of your two ways to win the game makes no sense
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2016 20:55 GMT
#2055
On June 20 2016 01:59 sicklucker wrote:
I had no idea i had the biggest filter when I did that tho. I can garanteed you I have never had the biggest filter in the game ever as mafia. Theres a big drop off for me meta wise

False. See drams. I don't know if you had the biggest filter but you had an enormous one
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2016 20:56 GMT
#2056
On June 20 2016 02:15 sicklucker wrote:
Chez was kind of also keeping his reads close to his vest. (he did leave a last will but mafia would have had no time to react to those reads)

So whoever killed him was afraid of the unknown since everyone else had posted reads except for chez. Now im not sure who that would be but thats how I explain his nk in my head

Whoever killed him didn't need him as a back up mislynch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2016 20:57 GMT
#2057
On June 20 2016 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like can sicklucker do that as mafia? Yes. Does he? Debatable. I think not.

This post says nothing :p
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2016 20:58 GMT
#2059
On June 20 2016 04:49 sicklucker wrote:
can rels call me obv town all game when its convenient to get me to town read him and then call me mafia when its convenient due to poe because he needs a mislynch in final 3.

yes yes he can

Someone s opinion evolving is what happens to town trying to solve the game. If I was scum I did a poor job at appearing to be right
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2016 20:58 GMT
#2060
On June 20 2016 05:58 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2016 05:56 Rels wrote:
On June 20 2016 02:15 sicklucker wrote:
Chez was kind of also keeping his reads close to his vest. (he did leave a last will but mafia would have had no time to react to those reads)

So whoever killed him was afraid of the unknown since everyone else had posted reads except for chez. Now im not sure who that would be but thats how I explain his nk in my head

Whoever killed him didn't need him as a back up mislynch

wifom

I disagree. This kill makes ve town
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2016 21:00 GMT
#2062
Like, if ve/palmar is the solution. The plan is to get a mislynch to win the game. So on me or on chez or on ls. In that position it makes 0 sense to kill both chez and ls.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2016 21:02 GMT
#2064
On June 20 2016 06:00 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:
On June 20 2016 05:58 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 20 2016 05:56 Rels wrote:
On June 20 2016 02:15 sicklucker wrote:
Chez was kind of also keeping his reads close to his vest. (he did leave a last will but mafia would have had no time to react to those reads)

So whoever killed him was afraid of the unknown since everyone else had posted reads except for chez. Now im not sure who that would be but thats how I explain his nk in my head

Whoever killed him didn't need him as a back up mislynch

wifom

I disagree. This kill makes ve town

No
Nightkill reads have never in the history of history been right. Too much noise, not enough signal.

Wrong. Ve killing chez when I'm the other easy mislynch and I'm scumreading chez by poe is bad. Ve killing ls when he was suspicious of him is bad.
You're right it shouldn't be taken as a 100% true info but it is not worth nothing
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2016 21:11 GMT
#2066
On June 20 2016 06:04 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2016 06:00 Rels wrote:
Like, if ve/palmar is the solution. The plan is to get a mislynch to win the game. So on me or on chez or on ls. In that position it makes 0 sense to kill both chez and ls.

It totally makes sense.
In a theoretical world that may or may not be this one, VE and Palmar are scum. Both SL and I are scumreading you. LS is focused on Palmar and Chez had few reads at all. Scum goes for the mislynch on you because you're the easiest, so they leave alive the people scumreading you.
Also LS was obvious town and Chez not a lynch target.

It makes 0 sense when sl and you were considered town by everybody. Chez was a lynch target. I am not an easy target to get a mislynch on. I think it will lose scum the game actually
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2016 21:12 GMT
#2067
Chez was considered null by like everybody. Apart from sicklucker maybe ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2016 21:17 GMT
#2069
On June 20 2016 06:15 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2016 06:11 Rels wrote:
On June 20 2016 06:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 20 2016 06:00 Rels wrote:
Like, if ve/palmar is the solution. The plan is to get a mislynch to win the game. So on me or on chez or on ls. In that position it makes 0 sense to kill both chez and ls.

It totally makes sense.
In a theoretical world that may or may not be this one, VE and Palmar are scum. Both SL and I are scumreading you. LS is focused on Palmar and Chez had few reads at all. Scum goes for the mislynch on you because you're the easiest, so they leave alive the people scumreading you.
Also LS was obvious town and Chez not a lynch target.

It makes 0 sense when sl and you were considered town by everybody. Chez was a lynch target. I am not an easy target to get a mislynch on. I think it will lose scum the game actually

Rels
Scum is in LyLo
They only need one lynch to win
So they push one player hard and ignore the others

yes and if I'm trying to lynch chez insteadof them while fighting back they win the game by doing nothing
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2016 21:26 GMT
#2070
How could I forget arta claimed when ve was up for lynch -_-
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 19 2016 21:29 GMT
#2071
Meh I don't know anything anymore. Maybe ve is scum and made the worth kills ever. This game is hard
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 17 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Online Event
16:00
Sunny Lake Cup #1
Wayne vs ArT
Strange vs Nicoract
Shameless vs GgMaChine
YoungYakov vs MilkiCow
3DClanTV 73
MindelVK48
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 237
mcanning 213
BRAT_OK 79
UpATreeSC 71
MindelVK 48
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 1443
EffOrt 1166
Barracks 995
ggaemo 765
firebathero 458
BeSt 339
Stork 286
TY 174
Dewaltoss 153
PianO 111
[ Show more ]
JYJ105
Movie 91
Snow 58
sas.Sziky 50
sSak 47
Sacsri 30
soO 17
Aegong 13
Terrorterran 11
Bale 8
GuemChi 0
Stormgate
TKL 120
RushiSC26
Dota 2
Gorgc6495
qojqva3599
420jenkins441
syndereN424
League of Legends
Reynor96
Counter-Strike
byalli360
Foxcn176
Heroes of the Storm
XaKoH 149
Other Games
gofns8235
Beastyqt786
Hui .228
Fuzer 178
oskar134
QueenE75
Trikslyr69
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta158
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4736
• WagamamaTV582
League of Legends
• Nemesis3102
• Jankos1299
• TFBlade811
Other Games
• Shiphtur90
Upcoming Events
OSC
59m
Cham vs Bunny
ByuN vs TriGGeR
SHIN vs Krystianer
ShoWTimE vs Spirit
WardiTV European League
22h 59m
MaNa vs NightPhoenix
ByuN vs YoungYakov
ShoWTimE vs Nicoract
Harstem vs ArT
Korean StarCraft League
1d 9h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 16h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 18h
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
WardiTV European League
1d 22h
Online Event
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
2 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
3 days
OSC
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
Roobet Cup 2025
Yuqilin POB S2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.