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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 15 2016 23:05 GMT
#1905
On June 16 2016 08:03 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 08:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:57 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:50 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:49 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:
Wow it looks like it's palmar tumble after all. Tumble being so convinced of no lynching then changing his mind because a town said so is pretty scummy

Rels, this is a terrible case because
a) I was not "so convinced" of no-lynching, nor did I change my mind for that reason, and
b) That's not even scummy if I did.

Why did you change your mind then ?

Because in theory no-lynching is always best, but then I thought about it for a moment, and when you add real players who get tunneled it's probably worse than me or SL being there because those are the only ones I trust to finish this game right.
Back atcha, Rels: What about that switch made you think I was scum?

Scum naturally wants to lynch today and not have to lie during more and more days. So you being OK to no lynch because it's the right thing to do then not doing it looks like you're scum posting the right thing to do at first but going with the natural inclination at the first occasion

Why would I do that though
Why would I have 'the correct' stance for a couple minutes then change my mind
Why wouldn't I put forth my current stance initially
Why wouldn't I just vote no-lynch and go semi-inactive for a cycle? It's not like I'd get punished for autoing.
There's just no scum motivation in what I did but you're acting like there is.

I just explained the fucking scum motivation just because you scumread me doesn't give you the fucking right to not read what I've daif

More calmly
Assuming you're town you don't realize sleeping is hard to do as scum. So you don't wanna sleep. But you don't want to no sleep because that's scummy. Ok
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 15 2016 23:10 GMT
#1907
On June 16 2016 08:07 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 08:03 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 08:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:57 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:50 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:49 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 16 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:
Wow it looks like it's palmar tumble after all. Tumble being so convinced of no lynching then changing his mind because a town said so is pretty scummy

Rels, this is a terrible case because
a) I was not "so convinced" of no-lynching, nor did I change my mind for that reason, and
b) That's not even scummy if I did.

Why did you change your mind then ?

Because in theory no-lynching is always best, but then I thought about it for a moment, and when you add real players who get tunneled it's probably worse than me or SL being there because those are the only ones I trust to finish this game right.
Back atcha, Rels: What about that switch made you think I was scum?

Scum naturally wants to lynch today and not have to lie during more and more days. So you being OK to no lynch because it's the right thing to do then not doing it looks like you're scum posting the right thing to do at first but going with the natural inclination at the first occasion

Why would I do that though
Why would I have 'the correct' stance for a couple minutes then change my mind
Why wouldn't I put forth my current stance initially
Why wouldn't I just vote no-lynch and go semi-inactive for a cycle? It's not like I'd get punished for autoing.
There's just no scum motivation in what I did but you're acting like there is.

I just explained the fucking scum motivation just because you scumread me doesn't give you the fucking right to not read what I've daif

Rels, use your thinking brain here. If I'm scum, you said, I would want to look like I'm doing the right thing and then switch to lynching today so I can win immediately. I counter by asking why, if I'm scum, that would be the best play, because there are several options that are just as good.

Because playing scum is hard and it is hard to give up the to not sleep. Sicklucker baited me with this in that game where I was scum and you were my mislynch. I should have sleeper and I voted that actually but he just had to say "let's lynch tumble" for me to vote you
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 15 2016 23:12 GMT
#1908
And actually the more I think about it the scummier it is. Maybe you just got baited in the exact trap I was baited in that previous game :D
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 15 2016 23:15 GMT
#1909
On June 10 2016 14:09 Tumblewood wrote:
Of the two tracker claims, Art is scum. There's a reason I preferred lynching Shape to lynching Damdred that I avoided saying earlier in the game: I was concerned that I was seeing Damdred's blue meta. Damdred as blue gets himself scumread to avoid a NK (source: Storm, Holyf***e). This is my scum meter for him: [image loading] plus that whole thing about Kelsier tracking but being completely absent, Art is the scum.
##unvote
##vote: artanis

But this followed by the whole doubts then going to damdred is super townie though ... jf you're scum these are some very good posts
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 15 2016 23:16 GMT
#1911
Ok I'm fired up and ready to analyse shit will definitely reread the game tomorrow now. Good night!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 15 2016 23:16 GMT
#1912
On June 16 2016 08:15 Tumblewood wrote:
Rels, my new scumread for you is calling people scum for bad reasons.

whoops did I say that

Motherfucker just because your brain can't comprehend others doesn't mean you're right
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2016 08:19 GMT
#1922
On June 16 2016 13:42 sicklucker wrote:
as for no sleeping we should probably vote on that before the acual lynch since there seems to be some interest not to sleep from ve and tumble. Yes sleeping is always best but we have also already waited a fucking week and im pretty biased because like tumble said im probably the nk anyway and unlike jat Im not a pussy and I like to decide games and not have other people do it for me. (just keep me out of final 3's mafia fuck that)

So your mind is so sure of your reads you're ok lynching right now ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2016 08:20 GMT
#1923
On June 16 2016 14:03 Tumblewood wrote:
Problem with sleep is that LS is so tunneled on VE that I'm afraid we'll lose a Palmar/LS/VE final 3, and we hardly need to wait. (How's the extra flip going to help? The town circle doesn't need confirmation.)

Yes it does. There is no confirmed town in this game. If there was fucking chez wouldn't have been killed last night
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2016 08:28 GMT
#1924
Palmar are you bad and town -_-
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2016 09:25 GMT
#1929
On June 16 2016 17:46 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 17:19 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2016 13:42 sicklucker wrote:
as for no sleeping we should probably vote on that before the acual lynch since there seems to be some interest not to sleep from ve and tumble. Yes sleeping is always best but we have also already waited a fucking week and im pretty biased because like tumble said im probably the nk anyway and unlike jat Im not a pussy and I like to decide games and not have other people do it for me. (just keep me out of final 3's mafia fuck that)

So your mind is so sure of your reads you're ok lynching right now ?


i just want to see who wants to sleep o.o

K hope I'll see you conclusions on that at some point then
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2016 09:27 GMT
#1930
On June 16 2016 17:51 sicklucker wrote:
this situation is a bit different then that last game rels in the sense that if we dont sleep we have 4 towns veruses 3 towns to decide . with 4 one can still vote wrong and town can correctly lynch. with 3vs2 ALL 3 TOWN HAVE TO BE FLAWLESS. So I think im leaning not to sleep.

In the last game we gained nothing by not sleeping. this game we gain the ability to win with a stupid town

Yes in 3V2 all 3 town has to vote the same guy. In 2V1 all 2 towns have to vote the same guy. It's the same situation. At the end of day we have to make a decision and consolidate.
I understand the "they will just make the best NK for them" idea a bit more but it was the same in the JAT game and you agreed to sleep there ? And an unlynchable dying is not sure since Chez died and he was definitely lynchable.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2016 09:28 GMT
#1931
And before that WBG died and I know at least I thought he might be scum. Every kill brings some new info.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2016 09:28 GMT
#1932
OK lunch time then it's time to solve the fucking game
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2016 10:58 GMT
#1933
SL attacking Shape on page 1, looking like it's a joke but being like "no I'm a little serious actually" is a little townie. IDK I would not expect SL, whose scum meta is to do as little as possible, to scumread someone this early and explain why even though it's the joke phase and nothing he says is gonna have consequences ? This is kinda weak though but it's a little something
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2016 11:02 GMT
#1934
On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote:
Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all!

Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker.

Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours.

This post is still horribly scummy and shows stress at the idea of entering the thread. It's just so prepared. Fuck you all for retropectively saying "BUT THAT WAS NOT SCUMMY". That was a scummy post, and his only other post was also bad then he crumbled under pressure and never posted again like scum tends to do under pressure. I'm glad we lynched him, I would probably have tunneled him all game if we hadn't after that D1.

Tomahawk bro you should play a newbie game so you have a coach to help you get used to forum mafia.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2016 11:09 GMT
#1935
On June 07 2016 17:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm with my man Chezinu on this one.

##Vote: KelsierSC

He may be the Survivor of Hathsin, but he won't survive this town.

On June 07 2016 18:19 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 17:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi boys I'm town. I've skimmed and so far I'm not really comfortable calling anyone anything with any certainty, though based on the way bugs and Palmar have interacted I'd say I think they are at least not mafia together. I have a few light townreads, but nothing worth sharing at this time. Will do a more thorough reading later on, but for now I like this D1. Lots of inquisitive people, I don't think much bullshit is gonna fly.


Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 17:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi boys I'm town. I've skimmed and so far I'm not really comfortable calling anyone anything with any certainty, though based on the way bugs and Palmar have interacted I'd say I think they are at least not mafia together. I have a few light townreads, but nothing worth sharing at this time. Will do a more thorough reading later on, but for now I like this D1. Lots of inquisitive people, I don't think much bullshit is gonna fly.


There seems to be a disconnect between these posts , I'd be interested in hearing how you came to your conclusions.

Kinda weird interactions if there are partners ? Maybe, at the very least
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2016 11:30 GMT
#1936
Meeting time so I gotta stop, will resume later
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2016 17:23 GMT
#1944
Tumble the way you're playing makes me think you' re scum a lot. You're sucking your townreads' dicks; SL can't be wrong about his assertion of the situation, LS can't be scum ... but more than that you are so sure Palmar is scum than you don't want to no-lynch because you think LS and VE will fight when you / SL / me are dead, but you still want to lynch me and your only reason to do so is a case your other scumread made.
The way you just assimilates the things that interests you and adds nothing from your perspective is different from the JAT game where you had your beliefs and they were weird and your own.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2016 17:26 GMT
#1945
Like you have no recent posts that is not based on your own beliefs.
On June 16 2016 07:01 Tumblewood wrote:
##vote: no-lynch
Rels is right that this is the best play but I'm still lynching him tomorrow.

"I agree with Rels, no lynch is best"
On June 16 2016 07:24 Tumblewood wrote:
assuming we no-lynch
If VE is town, scum wins because they can force LyLo with LS and VE and win. If he's scum with Rels, he busses Rels and kills LS and forces LyLo with SL and Palmar and wins. If he's with Palmar, they go for the mislynch on Rels and maybe win.

"no lynch is bad because of VE and LS tunneling each other"
On June 16 2016 07:31 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 07:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't know about Rels. He could be mafia, but Palmar pushing on him is strange. Like if they're partners why? And if they're not I certainly would rather lynch Palmar than Rels.

Did you see SL's post about bussing being the best play in 3v2 or 4v2 LyLo? If Palmar busses Rels and it goes through he gets all the cred, if it doesn't he wins on the spot.

"SL is right, Palmar / Rels team makes a lot of sense"
On June 16 2016 07:51 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2016 07:49 Rels wrote:
Tumble your take on palmar case on me pretty please ?

yeah it's probably correct. I think your push on kwahamot was scummy too.

"Rels is scum because Palmar's case on him is good"
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 16 2016 17:26 GMT
#1946
Tumble why is Palmar scum ?
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