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In other news, do vets die if they get shot while roleblocked? | ||
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You sure? #2 is quite old, or is it just me? | ||
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On June 04 2016 05:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: PREGAME READS 1) Emperorchampion - the rare legit newbie 2) Skynx - nothing like sweet sweet newbie 3) QuickTwist - forum mafia world traveler. Super pro, but new to this site. 4)sqrtofneg1 - why is this guy even a newbie? I've played with him before. 5) blkcoffee - kinda like QT in that he's played at other sites, but he doesn't seem like he's going to be as active 6) Jealous - 2 game newbie. from his posts so far, he looks like he's gonna be a lurker. We should PLYNCH d1. Venturing Vets 1) beentheredonethat - why is this guy under vets? he seems really delightful though. I want to be his friend. 2) Tumblewood - kind of a meany. 3) MooooooosyDooooosy - if he looks scummy, he's town. if he looks townie, he's scum. 4) darthfoley - slot please me mine 5) Superbia - so last game he bussed hard and made this awesome case against his team mate. be wary of this dirty buser. 6) FecalFeast - disgusting 7)Ticktock - not sure what the difference between this guy and tumblewood is. both names start with t and both play low to moderate activity. I think this is going to be a really slow game unless the newbs talk a lot. None of the vets are big talkers. Wow you sound like a townie | ||
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Jealous sounds towny to me. QT also keep things clean. Super n moosy are kinda chatting shit so I assume we can read more as game progresses. Super is most scummy so far. | ||
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He doesn't sound scummy (yet) | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:11 Superbia wrote: ? But you commented on all my posts which were mostly after daypost, no? What? Those were after my first post of the day not sure what you're on about. My point was him making 4 reads is impossible cuz im the 5th poster and he's one out of 4 others. I somehow missed Tumble but yeah i dont think they are serious. | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:29 blkcoffee wrote: Ah ok so you didn't see exactly 4 down reads. But youbsaw his 3 townreads. Less exciting now. That was my point yes. | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:32 blkcoffee wrote: Typing on a phone is difficult apparently. So when you say that quicks townreads aren't serious. Would you consider that cluttering the thread or being clear? Yeah i changed my mind now. QT and Superbia was just spamming and me tunnel visioning one of them didn't help. Newbie mistake. They both sound scummy. | ||
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1: Contentless town reads Including this one he made some town reads based on absolutely nothing, First 3 were kinda trying to get the game going but they don't benefit town as if you don't have some case on why someone is town why just claim them town, you're just promoting confusion. 2: Memes & one liners + Show Spoiler + 3: Ignoring valid posts that are making sense So tumble posted this about the spam On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote: hi kush okay with plynches but not for that reason. in newbie games mafia is lynched almost never on d1 so I'd rather take my chances on someone who won't contribute than someone who might turn out to be a helpful townie His response: On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote: ##Vote: Tumblewood I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I? As town, why would you wanna lynch someone is trying to make sense, if you're serious that is. 4: Diverting attention by linking old stuff These are where he understands he's not making a lot of sense so lets bring up old arguments and create some diversion. Super wasn't serious and you should've read the guide already, these are irrelevant to the discussion where people actually started to scumread him. Please enlighten me if you think he has made 1 usefull/towny post. Even if you think he might be town, these constant flow of useless posts are last thing we need and lynching him would benefit town more than plynching an afk for now, i don't think he will make positive contributions later on. On June 04 2016 12:18 QuickTwist wrote: I will not be living tomorrow. ##Vote: QuickTwist | ||
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Before someone mentions it, you can apply the spamming bit to Jealous aswell but I think he was actually making sense and argue in a constructive way. | ||
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On June 05 2016 00:34 blkcoffee wrote: I read Jesus and at as two townies refusing to back down. I don't see much more to it . Skynx and tumblewood both seem convinced that there has to be mafia in those two. Although skynx is sure it's qt. I'm not convinced by either of the arguments and the case on qt by skynx seems to paint every qt action as scummy which I don't think is the correct approach. If you read carefully, I've just called his posting pattern useless. He's not making any sensible pushes and his reads don't have any basis. Be he mafia or no, keeping him around does not benefit town. | ||
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On June 05 2016 01:18 blkcoffee wrote: So what exactly is your read. If he flipped what would he be in your opinion? Depends on what happens next 24h before lynch. If he flips scum we can make cases on other peoples reaction on him. If he flips town what a shame we will have less spam for rest of the game. | ||
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On June 05 2016 01:51 blkcoffee wrote: Sorry I wasn't clear. Right now what is your read on qt? I'm not really too bothered on your read of him after he flips. I'm not sure what you're trying to do here. He is scum from the way I read his posts. | ||
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On June 05 2016 02:35 Tumblewood wrote: that's not counterproductive to the town though oh my... have you heard of the player "Palmar"? most people regard him as one of the best players on the site, and he almost never substantiates his reads or answers questions on D1. This is his filter from the last game he played. One can be helpful to town without backing up what one says. Kinda off-topic but I was 95% sure Palmar was scum after Koshi was clipped. | ||
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On June 05 2016 06:33 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm tired of phone reading with my girlfriend here so I'll just post what i have so far Super probably didn't roll scum for the 10th time. Jealous is making posts i don't really want read but is being towny Quicktwist is being trolly but having moments of clarity so i can't be too upset with him I think skynx is scummy because he is hardly commenting on anything relevant when he posts while also not chatting it up or anything. Posting for the sake of posting I'm only on page 27 so grains of salt all around I'm going for slurpees anyone want anything? You break my heart man, but i dunno what to do now. Shall i chat shit or just post very serious stuff... | ||
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On June 05 2016 22:31 Superbia wrote: Skynx can you give me some updates regarding your thoughts atm? Tumble, emperor, you are townies For thoughts on QT read #604 Not much of read on most others but I don't feel like lynching kush+bddt for some time These are all just feels + I'm suspicious of one specific person but I'll keep that to myself for now. | ||
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I adressed that pretty early on On June 04 2016 09:37 Skynx wrote: Yeah i changed my mind now. QT and Superbia was just spamming and me tunnel visioning one of them didn't help. Newbie mistake. They both sound scummy. | ||
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Your posts in last 2 pages changed my opinion for now. You were just trying to stir shit up at the beginning which i didnt like thats why i scumread you first. | ||
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On June 06 2016 03:22 Tictock wrote: Skynx was brought up and I had some misgivings regarding his opening (was going to include him in my post yesturday but ran out of time). I'm really not a fan of this opening because he's useing a one line rule to throw out very unfounded reads. There is also no indication that he is actually trying to apply the rule he's using here. "Town likes clarity" into "sounds towny" or "keeps things clean". I really have a hard time understanding why Super would have been the most scummy based on the criteria of contentless posts as well. This also bugged me Really odd dodgy answer after he very clearly gave QT a townread in his open (or at least a lean). I also find it pretty interesting how he refines his read of QT but his read on Super remains static. Since I'm finding QT fairly scummy myself I tend to agree with Skynx's little case on him, but I'm also aware that a fair few of his points were just parroting what had been mentioned already. I might be pretty fine with lynching Skynx today. Disclaimer: This post was written over a much longer period of time than it should have. There has been a random bit of roommate drama over that past hour so I've been a little distracted while trying to put my thoughts together. I'm gunna take a bit to resolve things then I'll do my little skim-over/catch-up and see how things feel as we are getting into EoD here. Oh, I'm sorry. So you claim I was parroting what was mentioned already while I'm the only one to make a proper case? I'm seeing too many of these "I feel QT is scummy" posts but only 3 votes on him so far. Please make your intentions clear people, me doing so and getting scumread for it is quite amusing. For reference: + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2016 00:15 Tumblewood wrote: Having trouble justifying not voting QT, but not feeling good about voting him, either. + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2016 22:30 Superbia wrote: The jealous/quicky 'debate' was unlikely to be TvT. And I'm tempted to call quicky the mafia, because of jealous reads actually progressed during the 'debate'. But I'm not completely convinced yet. + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2016 08:23 scott31337 wrote: I read QuickTwist's filter since he's the one I'm tied in votes for, and it's 6 pages of one-liners and a couple of magic early townreads and a "Maybe scum" on Tictock. It's pretty bad - wouldn't mind voting for him + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2016 19:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Strongly considering stfu lynching qt | ||
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On June 05 2016 01:51 blkcoffee wrote: Sorry I wasn't clear. Right now what is your read on qt? I'm not really too bothered on your read of him after he flips. Where are you? Lots of Jealous vs QT in last couple of pages so you can make up your mind. | ||
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On June 06 2016 00:00 QuickTwist wrote: OK I reread the thread, here are my reads: Skynx and Ticktock are far and away my strongest scum reads and I really want one of them to get lynched today. I would be OK with a scott lynch. The Town AF people are: Emperorchampion blkcoffee beentheredonethat Tumblewood These are the people I will not be voting all game. After posting this why would you vote Jealous? Scott was tied with you for a long time and you making an impossible case 5 hours befour lynch? If you're really VT your moves dont make any sense. | ||
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That last min shennanie was nasty but doesn't necessarily make anyone scum for reasons btdt listed. Last few pages were interesting tho as I didn't think most people would list clear reads in night as they are powerless. I'll be flying back home today so not much activity til day. Gn town. Hi TT! | ||
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On June 07 2016 14:22 Superbia wrote: Guy said he was afk for strategic reasons and has been defensive Yo I was afk just before d1 ended. For the night I was travelling, not much I could do anyways. Lemme catchup. | ||
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I'm gona start since QT lynch since I was away for the night. So up to 47, only clear push on me was from TT. Two other were like mayyyybe on lynching me: Moosy (cuz of qt case), FF (for same reason). Then just before lynch Tumble decides I'm the clear lynch target and tries to get others switch to me for shennanie, doesn't happen tho. Following that Super, btdt reads me mafia out of nowhere. Moosy somewhat mafia reads me but I can't make sense of that post anyway. Tumble gets nk. Moosy 100% sr's me but then is unsure again in same post. Then kush votes for me. You guys know what this looks like? + Show Spoiler + In order of appearance: On May 27 2016 05:25 Koshi wrote: No I am serious. Marv is mafia. Just read his filter. Look how much defense there is in it. Against Rels. Against sicklucker. He is always around for that. People notice it. But he just defends against it but there is never anything more. JAT open eyes. marv is mafia. Also being second on scumlynches as scum is his forte. On May 27 2016 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Day 2 Koshi the VT is dead. It is now Day 2. Day ends Saturday, May 28 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). You have to place your votes. On May 27 2016 07:03 marvellosity wrote: Great shot mafia, thank you On May 29 2016 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Night 2 Marvellosity the 2-shot tracker was lynched. Day 2 Final Votecount marvellosity (8): Palmar, Superbia (1): Tumblewood, Vivax (1): marvellosity nnn_thekushmountains (0): Rels: (1) nnn_thekushmountains Damdred (0): Not Voting (0): It's now night 2. Night ends Sunday, May 29 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). You have to get in your actions. Moral of the story is I see lots of sr's on me while only TT (and maybe btdt) shows a reasoning behind it. | ||
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Most Town emperor: reads on everything, has his own opinion, insightul for a non-vet, generally active Jealous: Prolly most active, no way he's a good target after QT. [orange]Midway[/orange[ Super: 9 pages filter wtf, mostly one liners, sr's me without basis, bandwagony. Scott: There is the whole didn't get my role pm thing, inactive otherwise Scummy Ticktock: Pressures me D1, changes opinion just before lynch, useless arguing about shennanie which leads to nothing, very vague reads on last few posts. In the end, try-hard to not take any pressure on himself. kush: Acts like this godly figure over the whole game but actual contributions are very small. Mostly arguing with everyone about how QT was bad lynch, teaching Jealous how to play mafia, tryin to find town leader. Gives no clear reads, mostly commenting on others reads. Again professional at acting natural and avoiding pressure. Null: Moosy is unreadable do to the nature of his posts btdt with some good some bad posts but kinda inactive, I can't rly read him blk is gone. | ||
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On June 08 2016 01:46 Superbia wrote: Okay? Who's the scum pushing on you? What did the "strategical afk" mean? Lol how cheeky can you get, I'm not gona explain my tactics publicly especially they by most part worked: please check people's reaction to #935 and #1043. The scum pushing me? On June 07 2016 23:48 Skynx wrote: My T>S meter Most Town emperor: reads on everything, has his own opinion, insightul for a non-vet, generally active Jealous: Prolly most active, no way he's a good target after QT. [orange]Midway[/orange[ Super: 9 pages filter wtf, mostly one liners, sr's me without basis, bandwagony. Scott: There is the whole didn't get my role pm thing, inactive otherwise Scummy Ticktock: Pressures me D1, changes opinion just before lynch, useless arguing about shennanie which leads to nothing, very vague reads on last few posts. In the end, try-hard to not take any pressure on himself. kush: Acts like this godly figure over the whole game but actual contributions are very small. Mostly arguing with everyone about how QT was bad lynch, teaching Jealous how to play mafia, tryin to find town leader. Gives no clear reads, mostly commenting on others reads. Again professional at acting natural and avoiding pressure. Null: Moosy is unreadable do to the nature of his posts btdt with some good some bad posts but kinda inactive, I can't rly read him blk is gone. I feel like you're trying to avoid every point I make in my posts somehow. | ||
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I was watching Manila btw, thought everyone was afk | ||
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On June 08 2016 02:10 Superbia wrote: Manilla ended like an hour ago. Though I firmly believe that watching dota is always a good excuse to be afk. Timezones screw me up, just youtubing my way | ||
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On June 08 2016 02:13 Superbia wrote: Kush was already in my kill list. Let's do it. What do you think of Scott n TT? This next lynch is make or break that's why I haven't voted yet. | ||
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On June 08 2016 02:17 Superbia wrote: You can always change your vote. Bah fuck it you're right. It may summon people out of afk aswell maybe. | ||
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On June 08 2016 04:15 MoosyDoosy wrote: ![]() This actually hilarious. | ||
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On June 08 2016 08:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: You are thinking about this wrong. Scum dont enact some plot. They just try to come up with stuff to say that looks as townie as possible. Most of the time they try to not lynch their scumteam. Often scum will townread someone who is up for lynch, because they know that person is town, and their objective to look as townie as possible is compelling them to point that out. Lol this is so not true. He could've just jumped on the train for easy mislynch. | ||
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On June 09 2016 02:12 scott31337 wrote: Nothing really sticks out in the last couple of pages. I don't see a lot of defending kush which makes me worried, like fecal said yesterday. Super do you have any questions for me? Who would you like to lynch? Please give reads on TT & Moosy. | ||
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Not you, Scott or blk. | ||
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On June 09 2016 04:48 Fecalfeast wrote: So you want to kill someone with more thread presence rahter than someone who isn't contributing? That isn't a towny mindset imo. Moose who do we kill, then? My opinion is mafia would be happier if we mislynch a non-factor today. In the current state of the game everyone is calling shots on different targets,. | ||
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So I'm suggesting people clarify their reads so we can pick a common target. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:01 MoosyDoosy wrote: So Skynx, let me get this straight. You scum read kush? Are you reading the thread at all? Check votes, check my reads, my filter is clear about what I think of people. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:01 emperorchampion wrote: How do you rate from most coin-flippy to least coin-flippy?? Afk-ers are coin-flippy cuz we don't have information to analyse. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:09 MoosyDoosy wrote: I mean, that's the issue. These are the only mentions/kind of mentions of kush I can find in your filter. One list of reads that says kush is scum. Others are soft pushes. You say that others are scum reading kush like you so we should vote him and you say you don't want to waste your vote. The only other real mention of kush is asking him to defend. Overall it seems you're not confident in the kush push which is why I was asking if you thought kush was scum in order to make sure I got it right. Fair, I was just getting frustrated. The reason i wasn't confident on vote was cuz there was a lot of time til eod and i thought people would post more content. Today was totally useless and we got no distance covered so gotta keep my original thoughts. Kush is most scummy for his townlist and all that other jazz. I rly gtg now, happy lynches ppl. | ||
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On June 10 2016 04:09 Jealous wrote: Why would two people claiming be any less suspect than one person claiming? They could both be lying. Say PR1 claims, PR2 claims, but PR1 actually belongs to someone else. Then "claim wars" start where the actual PR1 claimed after the fake PR1 and how would we know the difference? There is no tangible way, as far as I see it. I almost want to say that it is a ploy by Superbia and EC to expose the influential PRs, because scum would be the only ones that know whether or not the person claiming is scum or not and thus would be much more valuable information to them than the town. However, I will wait to hear a more detailed explanation from Superbia and EC. I agree with this, how is claiming blue beneficial to town? Let's say actual cop claims and 1 scum claims cop as well now mafia has a nk target. If that person was lying then the actual cop now has to suspect of another person which is actually town lol Also vet should never claim he doesn't get anything out of it other than having RB'd ez pz. | ||
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On June 10 2016 04:53 Superbia wrote: If 2 people claim cop you know for a fact that one of them is scum, and you can figure it out from there. Much better than what we currently have. Then that cop is dead the other night. | ||
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His check on btdt is kinda out of nowhere imo cuz he spent entire d2 pressuring me and emp. If this is a situation where Moosy just fires shots on town btdt, he panics and screws up cc and Moosy defends his claim by just bringing up his Jealous tr on d2 we are so so fucked On June 10 2016 08:50 Tictock wrote: What were your other checks? And why did you check BtDt and not Emp or Skynx? On June 10 2016 08:50 MoosyDoosy wrote: #moneychecks #2pro #bestblueever #hashtag :3 I mean only reason Moosy is not drawing suspicion is because btdt screwed up. | ||
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On June 10 2016 18:19 scott31337 wrote: If you get lynched as doc, the game is over unless the vig does not get RB'd and makes a successful shot. You don't even know it's MYLO, right? From Superbia's analysis - if he's fakeclaiming, there's a real cop or a unclaimed vig (which hasn't shot? doubtful) "Moosy will be lynched next day or shot by the potential vig next night." " If Moosy gets lynched as cop, I will be lynched as doc. If I get lynched as doc, Moosy will be killed as cop." Your not thinking like a townie or a doc. Here's your shovel. This is like the only towny post of Scott | ||
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On June 10 2016 23:49 Superbia wrote: If we ever lynch town we lose. Unless scum KP gets stopped. I know, I'm trying to make stuff happen for D4 assuming we correctly scum lynch btdt today and Moosy is cop for real. | ||
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On June 13 2016 12:46 Jealous wrote: Skynx/EC/Tictock all voted for the same person each day, except when TT did shennanies onto BTDT. Skynx always votes before EC. EC waited for another person to vote in between them in 2/3 days, except when he was last vote. Ticktock voted between the two of them on both of those instances, and shennanied later. They never voted first for the person who ended up lynched. The only person to note vote for the same person on those days is BTDT. So, unless scott is scum, then two of Skynx/EC/Tictock were working as a 2 man voting/bandwagoning cell. It's worth it to examine their interactions with each other. Looking back at Day 1 data, we have: + Show Spoiler [beentheredonethat] + BTDT reads Superbia, QuickTwist, Tumblewood town BTDT reads MoosyDoosy scum BTDT votes MoosyDoosy BTDT reads Jealous scum based off Tumblewood + Show Spoiler [emperorchampion] + Emperorchampion reads QuickTwist town Emperorchampion defends QT, points at Moosy EC softreads Tumble, QT scum EC reads Skynx, Tumble, QT, Jealous as scum EC reads Superbia, TT town EC votes QT EC says if QT town, Tumble town, Jealous scum + Show Spoiler [Skynx] + Skynx reads Jealous town, Superbia scum Skynx votes QuickTwist Skynx defends sqrtneg1, points at FecalFeast Skynx reads Tumble, EC town Skynx reads QT, Superbia scum Skynx defends Jealous @QT Skynx points BC + Show Spoiler [Tictock] + Tictock casts a fake vote for kushmountain Tictock reads Moosy scum Tictock reads Tumblewood town Tictock says to ignore his previous scum reads lol Tictock reads Jealous town Tictock reads Superbia, Tumblewood, Moosy, blkcoffee town Tictock reads QuickTwist, emperorchampion scum Tictock votes QuickTwist Tictock reads Jealous scum TT points at FF for plynch TT reads QT, Skynx scum TT wants to lynch Skynx TT reads QT scum TT reads QT scum TT reads QT, kush, Skynx, EC scum TT corrects EC for BTDT TT votes BTDT TT defends BC ![]() Skynx/EC/Tictock all voted for the same person each day, except when TT did shennanies onto BTDT. You voted same person each day as well. They never voted first for the person who ended up lynched. I wrote the QT case, Moosy was a troll vote and you were in the original argument and counter-voted him. I started kush train as well along with Super. That being said I'm conservative with my votes and I'm not a fan of changing them since a sudden change of opinion would draw more suspicion on me when already half of you guys are sr'ing me from n1. then two of Skynx/EC/Tictock were working as a 2 man voting/bandwagoning cell. I called TT bandwagonning D2 altho I tr him along with pretty much everyone save Moosy. I don't see how this is all relevant tho. | ||
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Mind you he was tied at 3 votes to QT for a long while. So he posts this list as a summary of his thoughts: On June 07 2016 07:34 scott31337 wrote: Allright, I got some time to look over things - 1) Emperorchampion - this guy seems like newb town with some of his responses 2) Skynx -He made a "case" on Quicktwist, which I am unsure new mafia would do - most are scared to stick out lilke that - but then also his last post is "Strategic lurking" so.... Not a bad fan at the moment. 5) blkcoffee - null not enough info - one page of filter 6) Jealous - Aggressive, shares his info and thoughts - townlean Venturing Vets 1) beentheredonethat - He shows his thoughts and posts, not all one-liners, townlean 2) Tumblewood - My gut instinct says hes town, i've read multiple games of his and this shows more of a town agenda - wants me dead though 3) MooooooosyDooooosy - He trolls a lot with either alignment, more as town though - and it's been a lot of trolling - 4) nnn_thekushmountians - he points out my posts, but I don't see a whole lot else from the guy. 5) Superbia - looks to be trying to figure out the game - townlean for now 6) FecalFeast -town chilled FF 7)Ticktock - This guy has quite a lot of opposite reads than I do, which makes me wonder - him and me in that milo game will always be on my mind ![]() I think I have too many "townies" - I'd have to go with scumteam of TT, Moosy, and Blkcoffee for now with maybe a bit of Tumble - I think Tumble should be the one I completely re-read. 2) Skynx -He made a "case" on Quicktwist, which I am unsure new mafia would do - most are scared to stick out lilke that - but then also his last post is "Strategic lurking" so.... Not a bad fan at the moment. So this is a shady read which can go both ways. Thinks I'm suspicious from my last post but likes my stlye? 5) blkcoffee - null not enough info - one page of filter lol the irony 1) beentheredonethat - He shows his thoughts and posts, not all one-liners, townlean This imo is a giveaway. While he's right about btdt's style his only mention of btdt returns at Moosy's claim. TT & FF tried shennanies on him, kush sr'd him and Scott was absent from the discussion. He doesn't really pushes his questions either: On June 08 2016 02:57 scott31337 wrote: So tumble is dead. Super looks more interested in the game, and so does moosy. Tictock who are your three scum right now? I've skimmed the thread, at a worksite right now but I shall return. Not entirely scummy but still: On June 10 2016 18:40 scott31337 wrote: Tinfoil - Shapelog didn't mention about the rules about how a veteran loses his vest while being roleblocked in the OP (or does not?!?) - so the example is actually how he rolled the dice. Anyway, his sudden activity peak after a scum flip makes me wonder if it's just to take the heat off himself. He's also ready to jump on btdt without hesitation because he knows the real deal and it's inevitable at this point + it will give him town credit. So he shuts down any other argument: I'm not even 1 bit worried hihi | ||
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On June 14 2016 06:24 Tictock wrote: Ah thats right. Kinda a cop out move though... eh? Doesn't matter who dies you know ![]() | ||
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"I'm gona vote whoever Jealous votes" he is basically buying your opinion on how he's gona do the most important thing in the game. He doesn't care who he votes because it doesn't represent his opinion so he's safe. | ||
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On June 14 2016 08:35 Tictock wrote: Also for Skynx. You had a scum read on me for most of the game, can you tell me what your read of me is now and what (if anything) has changed? Well, I liked your D2 activity and out of ordinary questions and trying to get people to think instead of just killing kush. That was kinda what I tried to do during 1st half of D2 but then I had to be away. My reads on you from earlier stuff that i mentioned in my sr I see now that is kinda applicable to everyone. Most people, I think with exception of Super n Jealous have that activity for sake of activity posts all around but I guess that doesn't mean anything. On June 10 2016 09:07 Tictock wrote: I disagree with this actually. Assuming your claim is true (and I'm thinking it's good) BtDt should be lynched, but if we just pile on him then today will be super boring and we will loose much chance to get info. So this I like, but that is actually what happened and btdt lost his cool, gave away his mafioso and we got nothing else out of that day. On June 14 2016 15:19 Superbia wrote: TT why has your scumread on me evaporated? You were coming into d3 voting me, but after the red check I'm nowhere to be seen. Why was I your hardest scum then? What happened that made you flip so enormously? From what I see you are no longer even considering me. What happened to tinfoil? Then this. My initial thought is that btdt wagon became too big for you to ignore. Super is not posting differently before/after D3 so its hard to change reads on that. No one else was sr'ing Super anyway so if you're town it doesn't make sense to me without a super solid case. That did not happen and you chose the safe play of voting for btdt. Now, another point is your relationship with Scott who's my primary sr. On June 08 2016 05:38 Tictock wrote: I'd kinda like to get back to you on this. But gut feeling? Super FF Scott and probably... Emp Blkcoffee which starts with this On June 07 2016 06:39 Tictock wrote: I might be ok with that if we lynch in this order Skynx Scott Someone Else Someone Else ... Super Though if you are really feeling like there is some similarity between his last scum game and this game then you are free to make that comparison for us. then this in contrary, altho you might argue it was too early in the game to make serious reads. On June 07 2016 06:46 Tictock wrote: Eh idk I haven't had a chance to put any real time into this game today, still feel fairly happy with my town reads. I'm also starting to lean town on kush but I'm not totally comfortable with that read just yet. Scott's claim to not have gotten his role PM bugs me just a little kus I know sqrt was posting in the first hour of the game (so pretty sure he got his role, don't think a newbie would start posting without getting that). There was also a pretty large gap from when scott joined the game till when he made that post. Maybe I'm overthinking it but it feels weird, and I think Scott needs to step it up one way or another. Yet he does not, and you never push this again On June 08 2016 03:19 Tictock wrote: Right now I'm still tempted to vote for Skynx but his list post wasn't terrible. Of the people voting QT I thought Skynx, Emp, and to a lesser extent Moosy were the weakest votes on him. Skynx stood out to me because he initially read QT as town but then got pressured a little for that read and ended up swapping his read and made that case on QT. Case felt somewhat contrived (especially when it wasn't his initial thinking on QT and idk why you case someone like that when other people were clearly of similar opinions). BtDt has made a couple of big posts but he focused pretty hard on Moosy without trying to convince anyone of his read or anything and I think he's on Scott now too which just seems like picking out easy/low impact targets to me. Emp and Kush both have some townie posts but the focus feels a little off. With Kush I get this sense of his town game but much more reserved. Like he's saying what he thinks, but not doing so in a way that pushes the game forward. try to put this in context with this So you had like exact same way of my thinking then straight up question it. Your filter page 7 is filled with posts both accusing and defending Scott, sometimes assigning me and him for last 2 mafia, I'm not gona post all here since it'd be too big just check it out if interested. And all that finalises into this: On June 14 2016 08:27 Tictock wrote: Scott do you think Skynx and EC are the last two mafia? Personally I'm kinda coming back to this game with fresh eyes since I was away for a full couple of days. I'm seeing a couple of possible worlds that both seem equally likely atm. I was playing this game without doing real filter dives just skimming for key posts, but I think I might need to try and cross check a few things. Mind you, despite all these pushes, sr's, tr's you have only just now pushed him to answer your questions. You have never voted for him either. Now lets have a look at this from Scott's side: Some sort of accusation here On June 13 2016 11:05 scott31337 wrote: Btdt/Skynx/EC? Then completely stops assigning you with mafia On June 14 2016 07:28 scott31337 wrote: Yes, I disagree - if were lynching a town, it doesn't make much sense for mafia to want to sheannie, they would rather get the mislynch. Very strong defense of you right here. Personally I can answer Scott here, QT train was unstoppable so TT felt no pressure shennanies cuz he didn't think anyone would be around. Him and FF go for btdt for this exact situation then Tumble pops up suggests me. This doesn't go through cuz I'm already gathering a lot of suspicion on myself. Anyway, this activity between you and Scott is a big tell imo and either way too big to ignore at this point in the game. What is your opinion on my read for Scott? And people pls post ur reactions to this, especially Jealous n Super | ||
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On June 14 2016 16:17 Jealous wrote: Ok so I did some digging, and here are my thoughts on the four current candidates: + Show Spoiler [Skynx] + I went into this expecting his posts to be more scummy than they were. There were maybe 3 or 4 suspect posts, but these two: + Show Spoiler + On June 14 2016 00:45 Skynx wrote: So Scott replaced sqrt and there was that whole receiving role jazz. He was pretty happy on D1/D2 just sitting back enjoying town kill eachother as his filter didn't even fill a single page. He is experienced so I would expect him to at least chat a bit to get some town credit. This makes him unreadable and safe while he avoids any contributions to town. Mind you he was tied at 3 votes to QT for a long while. So he posts this list as a summary of his thoughts: So this is a shady read which can go both ways. Thinks I'm suspicious from my last post but likes my stlye? lol the irony This imo is a giveaway. While he's right about btdt's style his only mention of btdt returns at Moosy's claim. TT & FF tried shennanies on him, kush sr'd him and Scott was absent from the discussion. He doesn't really pushes his questions either: Not entirely scummy but still: Anyway, his sudden activity peak after a scum flip makes me wonder if it's just to take the heat off himself. He's also ready to jump on btdt without hesitation because he knows the real deal and it's inevitable at this point + it will give him town credit. So he shuts down any other argument: I'm not even 1 bit worried hihi + Show Spoiler + On June 10 2016 04:16 Skynx wrote: I agree with this, how is claiming blue beneficial to town? Let's say actual cop claims and 1 scum claims cop as well now mafia has a nk target. If that person was lying then the actual cop now has to suspect of another person which is actually town lol Also vet should never claim he doesn't get anything out of it other than having RB'd ez pz. They give me mixed feelings. The first one is clearly a defensive counter-attack against scott, which actually makes sense. The end refers to one of the posts I read as more suspect at the time, "Please please someone claim cop." At first I didn't understand why he wanted to seed more confusion into the situation, but I think I've figured out its true meaning: if someone claimed cop in order to CC Moosy, they would be just as dead as BtDt after BtDt flipped red. With this in mind, I don't think this post actually scared anyone into not claiming, and if Skynx was scum, he could have said something privately to the team in order to achieve the same goal without the potentially suspicious ploy. I would rate his contributions to the discussion and exploration of leads to be on the lower side, but that is partially hampered by the fact that he hasn't been as consistently active as some and that his reads on the first two days were wrong. I had the same reads, so I have a hard time holding that against someone, but it still needs to be noted. + Show Spoiler [scott31337] + On June 07 2016 07:34 scott31337 wrote: Allright, I got some time to look over things - 1) Emperorchampion - this guy seems like newb town with some of his responses - 2) Skynx -He made a "case" on Quicktwist, which I am unsure new mafia would do - most are scared to stick out lilke that - but then also his last post is "Strategic lurking" so.... Not a bad fan at the moment. 5) blkcoffee - null not enough info - one page of filter 6) Jealous - Aggressive, shares his info and thoughts - townlean Venturing Vets 1) beentheredonethat - He shows his thoughts and posts, not all one-liners, townlean 2) Tumblewood - My gut instinct says hes town, i've read multiple games of his and this shows more of a town agenda - wants me dead though 3) MooooooosyDooooosy - He trolls a lot with either alignment, more as town though - and it's been a lot of trolling - 4) nnn_thekushmountians - he points out my posts, but I don't see a whole lot else from the guy. 5) Superbia - looks to be trying to figure out the game - townlean for now 6) FecalFeast -town chilled FF 7)Ticktock - This guy has quite a lot of opposite reads than I do, which makes me wonder - him and me in that milo game will always be on my mind ![]() I think I have too many "townies" - I'd have to go with scumteam of TT, Moosy, and Blkcoffee for now with maybe a bit of Tumble - I think Tumble should be the one I completely re-read. Although he read a scumteam at the end, I think that he did try to scratch nearly everyone's back by claiming nearly everyone town. However, he does bring that up in his post as well. Is that so that it would seem less suspicious, or is it honest acknowledgement of the fact that his reads are weak? WIFOM On June 09 2016 02:12 scott31337 wrote: Nothing really sticks out in the last couple of pages. I don't see a lot of defending kush which makes me worried, like fecal said yesterday. Super do you have any questions for me? Who would you like to lynch? This seems kinda low-effort and this was posted after kush was lynched - why raise these worries now and not the day before, as he says fecal did? It seems like he is trying to give out town vibes with a post like this. Given my reasoning above @ Skynx, this seems almost like an overreaction, unless scott also misunderstood the post like I did first/didn't think it through. However, now I'm wondering why Skynx didn't post something trying to clarify it? Hm -_-; This isn't much of a counter-argument but he does produce a point - why is TT throwing Super on a scum team when Super's analysis is the one that proved Moosy as cop and BtDt as a fake CC? Will be added to in my analysis of TT. On June 11 2016 07:20 scott31337 wrote: Skynx would be at the top of my list. The third one I'm quite unsure of though - I'd have to re-read filters and VCA. Considering scott's previous post @Skynx, this seems to solidify to me that he either 1. really wants Skynx dead because scott is scum and sees a wagon forming, 2. completely misunderstood the implications of Skynx's post, or 3. I completely misunderstood Skynx's post and he never bothered to properly explain it anyway. This is a pretty tricky situation and I'd like some feedback on this from others, especially Scott/Skynx. On June 13 2016 10:52 scott31337 wrote: Confirmed dead Final Vote Count: Day 1 QuickTwist (5): scott31337 (2): nnn_thekushmountains, beentheredonethat (2): Tictock, Fecalfeast nnn_thekushmountains (1): Superbia MoosyDoosy (1): Jealous (1): QuickTwist Skynx (0): Superbia (0): Not Voting (1): blkcoffee Final Vote Count Day 2 nnn_thekushmountains (6): Superbia, Skynx, Tictock, beentheredonethat, emperorchampion, Jealous emporerchampion (3): MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast, Skynx (1): nnn_thekushmountains beentheredonethat (0): Scott31337 (0): Not-voting blkcoffee Day 3 vote count beentheredonethat (7): MoosyDoosy, Superbia, scott31337. Jealous, Tictock, Skynx, emperorchampion Superbia(0): MoosyDoosy(1): beentheredonethat Not voting (0): Now if I do 99-100% (Superbia only 99% for me, Jealous is 100%) + Show Spoiler [99%s] + Final Vote Count: Day 1 QuickTwist (5): scott31337 (2): nnn_thekushmountains, beentheredonethat (2): Tictock, Fecalfeast nnn_thekushmountains (1): Superbia MoosyDoosy (1): Jealous (1): QuickTwist Skynx (0): Superbia (0): Not Voting (1): blkcoffee Final Vote Count Day 2 nnn_thekushmountains (6): Superbia, Skynx, Tictock, beentheredonethat, emperorchampion, Jealous emporerchampion (3): MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast, Skynx (1): nnn_thekushmountains beentheredonethat (0): Scott31337 (0): Not-voting blkcoffee Day 3 vote count beentheredonethat (7): MoosyDoosy, Superbia, scott31337. Jealous, Tictock, Skynx, emperorchampion Superbia(0): MoosyDoosy(1): beentheredonethat Not voting (0): And I do Skynx mafia and me town + Show Spoiler [Skynx mafia me town] + Final Vote Count: Day 1 QuickTwist (5): scott31337 (2): nnn_thekushmountains, beentheredonethat (2): Tictock, Fecalfeast nnn_thekushmountains (1): Superbia MoosyDoosy (1): Jealous (1): QuickTwist Skynx (0): Superbia (0): Not Voting (1): blkcoffee Final Vote Count Day 2 nnn_thekushmountains (6): Superbia, Skynx, Tictock, beentheredonethat, emperorchampion, Jealous emporerchampion (3): MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast, Skynx (1): nnn_thekushmountains beentheredonethat (0): scott31337 (0): Not-voting blkcoffee Day 3 vote count beentheredonethat (7): MoosyDoosy, Superbia, scott31337. Jealous, Tictock, Skynx, emperorchampion Superbia(0): MoosyDoosy(1): beentheredonethat Not voting (0): I need to re-read Tictock's d1 and if he voted on btdt legitimately or was a throw-away vote (that the lynch was already secured) This post opened my eyes to something - Scott wagoned after me on EC on Day 2; I am 99% sure that this made it 4 votes to 4. Since kush flipped town, I think it is fair to say that scummy Scott wouldn't risk raising the votes on a scummy EC to the same count as kush's when there were still votes up in the air. So in terms of pairings for the remaining 2 scum, a Scott/EC pairing is relatively unlikely. Note 1. On June 13 2016 11:05 scott31337 wrote: Btdt/Skynx/EC? Ugh, might need to revise this pair read. Note 2. + Show Spoiler [Tictock] + On June 05 2016 00:55 Tictock wrote: Some townreads for now, then I'll be back after a shower to talk about scum reads. Super - Jumped right in and has been really focused on interacting with people to develop reads. I've also found our thoughts on a large number of things have been in line. Probably never lynching. Tumble - Dropping his thoughts when he feels like it, largely a meta read+ Show Spoiler + For you newbies, this means his playstyle is in line with what I've seen from him in previous games. Another hit and miss method of making reads Moosy - I'm not sure how to explain this read, but I'm decently solid on it for D1. blkcoffee - has the right combination of not really giving a fuck and getting excited about something There's a couple more town leans floating around but I'm gunna leave my town list at that for now. Spot-on reads. Maybe too spot-on? On June 05 2016 01:33 Tictock wrote: Ok I piddled around too long and am not going to be able to elaborate as much as I wanted to about my scum reads, but here is the short and sweet version. QT - There is just too many inconsistencies in his play for me to overlook. He pushed Super early for "trying to look town" + Show Spoiler + which is a terrible reason to scumread anyone, especially when that doesn't reall describe Super's play at all imo not openly giving my reads Sorry no time for examples Emperorchampion - I liked his open, but the rest of his posts fall flat and he quickly dropped the attitude he started with. The way he spent a lot of effort filterdiving QT + Show Spoiler + filters so early in the game? Thats it for now, I may get a chance to post later tonight, but likely won't be around till tomorrow. ##Vote: QuickTwist Targeting EC. Note 3. On June 06 2016 02:37 Tictock wrote: Humm the weekend start is keeping this game pretty dry I see. I might skim over the game again then since there isn't much new to read, and nothing in the past few pages has really swayed my opinion. I'm trying to decide how I feel about Scott's slot. Was sorta thinking the way the replacement happened could mean scott's is town, but thats pretty WIFOM and I'm mostly just grasping at straws. Sqrt's opening game posts just felt chatty and not really AI (alignment indicative) but show that he was around and ready to play the first hour of the game. Scott's posts leave a little to be desired... and I'm not sure why he seems so concerned I don't have Jealous as a hard town read. + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2016 08:34 scott31337 wrote: hmmm no mention of Jealous here, and so far Jealous is my only townread hmmm Which sure I haven't given any thoughts on Jealous besides On June 04 2016 17:01 Tictock wrote: This is a terrible post to townread someone by, but I def want to keep you around now. I'm reserving my right to hold off giving a real read on him kus a few things have raised an eyebrow but I'm overall liking his posts. Honestly scott just seems like a coinflip atm and I'm not feeling inclined to lynch him. I'd like to know why people are keen to lynch him/his slot but nobody seems to be considering FF who arguably has done just as little. Defending scott, targeting FF. Note 4. On June 06 2016 03:22 Tictock wrote: Skynx was brought up and I had some misgivings regarding his opening (was going to include him in my post yesturday but ran out of time). I'm really not a fan of this opening because he's useing a one line rule to throw out very unfounded reads. There is also no indication that he is actually trying to apply the rule he's using here. "Town likes clarity" into "sounds towny" or "keeps things clean". I really have a hard time understanding why Super would have been the most scummy based on the criteria of contentless posts as well. This also bugged me Really odd dodgy answer after he very clearly gave QT a townread in his open (or at least a lean). I also find it pretty interesting how he refines his read of QT but his read on Super remains static. Since I'm finding QT fairly scummy myself I tend to agree with Skynx's little case on him, but I'm also aware that a fair few of his points were just parroting what had been mentioned already. I might be pretty fine with lynching Skynx today. Disclaimer: This post was written over a much longer period of time than it should have. There has been a random bit of roommate drama over that past hour so I've been a little distracted while trying to put my thoughts together. I'm gunna take a bit to resolve things then I'll do my little skim-over/catch-up and see how things feel as we are getting into EoD here. On June 06 2016 05:08 Tictock wrote: I kinda agree, the general flow of the game and how the votes are going seem to signal a very low key scum team that is probably not up for lynch atm. QT is also giving me vibes that he's not really to concerned with the pressure atm which isn't really in line with a try-hard scum playing the activity game. I'm wondering if he's a player more like Moosy who's play can be pretty questionable and is lynchbait. While he's kinda all over the place and I have a hard time tracking much line of thought he is being pretty consistent about putting stuff out there. Is your desire to lynch kush based on meta, or is it more policy due to him being pretty lackluster and only pushing a plynch himself? I think I might be more keen on lynching Skynx myself. Although he claims that this was written over a long time, I believe this is when the QT wagon was in full effect, so his targetting Skynx here might not be much of an indicator of anything, but I'll include it as Note 5. On June 07 2016 06:39 Tictock wrote: I might be ok with that if we lynch in this order Skynx Scott Someone Else Someone Else ... Super Though if you are really feeling like there is some similarity between his last scum game and this game then you are free to make that comparison for us. Note 6. On June 08 2016 03:19 Tictock wrote: Right now I'm still tempted to vote for Skynx but his list post wasn't terrible. Of the people voting QT I thought Skynx, Emp, and to a lesser extent Moosy were the weakest votes on him. Skynx stood out to me because he initially read QT as town but then got pressured a little for that read and ended up swapping his read and made that case on QT. Case felt somewhat contrived (especially when it wasn't his initial thinking on QT and idk why you case someone like that when other people were clearly of similar opinions). BtDt has made a couple of big posts but he focused pretty hard on Moosy without trying to convince anyone of his read or anything and I think he's on Scott now too which just seems like picking out easy/low impact targets to me. Emp and Kush both have some townie posts but the focus feels a little off. With Kush I get this sense of his town game but much more reserved. Like he's saying what he thinks, but not doing so in a way that pushes the game forward. Note 7. On June 08 2016 05:38 Tictock wrote: I'd kinda like to get back to you on this. But gut feeling? Super FF Scott and probably... Emp Blkcoffee Note 8. On June 09 2016 07:30 Tictock wrote: Scott first and formost since he keeps referencing my first scumgame to justify his fear read of me. Note 9. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/508622-newbie-mafia-xxi?page=87#1724 I just really like this post. + Show Spoiler [emperorchampion] + On June 06 2016 03:03 emperorchampion wrote: I think that Skynx could be scum, not really sure on the rest since I haven't looked too much into it due to not having too much time atm. Superbia / Tictock seem town. Fecalfeast / scott not really sure. Seems like a mafia move to push an afk tho, so I don't know what it accomplishes. I think my vote has to go into tumble / QT / Jealous to figure this out. Targets Skynx, note 11. On June 06 2016 20:58 emperorchampion wrote: Half-Life 3 confirmed tier (Release date: soon (tm)) - Tumble - Moosy - fecal - ticktock Null - btdt - scott - blkcoffee Cesar's Army - kush - super - skynx My feelings at the moment, will post more when at office. Target Skynx and 2 townies, not a good look, Note 12. On June 08 2016 03:06 emperorchampion wrote: Some thoughts on scum teams: -super, skynx, kush --> out unless crazy bus on kush -TT, Fecal, scott --> shenanananaigan duo + scott + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2016 07:17 scott31337 wrote: Hmmmmmm Or is that scums plan? wifomwifomwifom On June 07 2016 07:34 scott31337 wrote: Allright, I got some time to look over things - 1) Emperorchampion - this guy seems like newb town with some of his responses - 2) Skynx -He made a "case" on Quicktwist, which I am unsure new mafia would do - most are scared to stick out lilke that - but then also his last post is "Strategic lurking" so.... Not a bad fan at the moment. 5) blkcoffee - null not enough info - one page of filter 6) Jealous - Aggressive, shares his info and thoughts - townlean Venturing Vets 1) beentheredonethat - He shows his thoughts and posts, not all one-liners, townlean 2) Tumblewood - My gut instinct says hes town, i've read multiple games of his and this shows more of a town agenda - wants me dead though 3) MooooooosyDooooosy - He trolls a lot with either alignment, more as town though - and it's been a lot of trolling - 4) nnn_thekushmountians - he points out my posts, but I don't see a whole lot else from the guy. 5) Superbia - looks to be trying to figure out the game - townlean for now 6) FecalFeast -town chilled FF 7)Ticktock - This guy has quite a lot of opposite reads than I do, which makes me wonder - him and me in that milo game will always be on my mind ![]() I think I have too many "townies" - I'd have to go with scumteam of TT, Moosy, and Blkcoffee for now with maybe a bit of Tumble - I think Tumble should be the one I completely re-read. I think these almost fit tooo well. It seems like he has spent a lot of time reading all filters, but has barely posted? Plus I find his scum read on TT pretty weak. - Moosy, kush, jealous + Show Spoiler + I think that moosy is likely town. However, reassessing as scumteam makes these posts very interesting (in no particular order): + Show Spoiler + On June 07 2016 23:51 MoosyDoosy wrote: He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip? On June 08 2016 00:06 MoosyDoosy wrote: I absolutely did not take every opportunity. ![]() What I did say is that both QT and Jealous were acting like idiots but out of the two, QT would have to be the Mafia. Looking at Jealous's behavior and his newbie slip at the start of D2, it looks like it's safe to assume he's town and put away the Jealous/kush tinfoil team. Just because I have a read on someone now doesn't mean I had it on them the whole game. Now would you care to actually read the game? On June 08 2016 00:06 MoosyDoosy wrote: Yes, Jealous can be scum in multiple tinfoil situations and you can be unproductive by squabbling about it. Or you can actually focus on finding real scum than thinking of tinfoil situations. On June 08 2016 00:08 MoosyDoosy wrote: And no, your filter doesn't really show any sign of reading Jealous as scum. Instead, it seems more like you tacitly accept him as town than scum. So again. Why the sudden flip? - I think that kush kind of fits in here, but he could be replaceable by most i think. aaaaaaand I have to actually do some work for now... Defends Skynx and targets Scott. Note 13. On June 09 2016 00:04 emperorchampion wrote: Also I would like scott to show up and give his reasoning on reading Tictock as scum, I found it very nebulous. So many afks :/ At this point I would be willing to vote for scott/btdt/kush for begin afk, and particularly scott and kush since I'm giving them a scum lean. Softly defends TT, targets Scott. Note 14. On June 09 2016 02:13 emperorchampion wrote: Can you explain how you got your read on TicTock? Note 15. On June 09 2016 04:09 emperorchampion wrote: Voting scott, want him to answer some questions! Note 16. On June 09 2016 04:49 emperorchampion wrote: Why not scott, he seems pretty scummy, no? Note 17. On June 09 2016 07:11 emperorchampion wrote: idk, I'm so suspicous of both scott and kush I just realized that kush was the first to post Which was sheeped by pretty much everyone with basically no explanation. Scum reads all heavily favoured towns (well aparently I don't fall into that category LOL) This is fairly towny I suppose, but maybe pushing his own logic Otherwise I don't find much in his filter. I think these are the posts with the most content, and I don't really see what he's pushing for here. A lot of blank reads with no justification. Note 18. On June 10 2016 09:12 emperorchampion wrote: I'm not sure if I'm ready to throw my caution to the wind atm. I honestly only trust super, and I have a feeling that jealous/moosy/scott could be maf. Tictock seems to be making a lot of sense right now. Moosy's claim seems pretty genuine, but I don't want to give too much benefit to the first claim. Note 19. On June 13 2016 08:20 emperorchampion wrote: Sooo it doesn't look like anyone else is here atm, I think I'm out after this for the night Here's my scum power ranking: -Skynx -Scott -Tictock Half-Life 3 Confirmed List: -Jealsus -Super Note 20. So, going through these made me think of the situation this way: scum pairings. I didn't quote some of Skynx's posts that would apply to this list because I only had the thought while reading scott but they are in his filter. Let's look at the possibilities, if we take defense/scumread at face value. The note numbers are largely in sequential order with how I found them if you read the above spoilers from top to bottom Scott / EC = Not likely as per Note 1 under my Scott analysis, although later he does suggest him in Note 2. EC does target Scott to some degree in Note 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, Scott / Skynx = Not likely because Scott has been scumreading Skynx into the lategame. Scott / TT = Possible, has been defending him. Note 4 vice-versa. However, TT turns it around in Note 6, Note 8, Note 9. Scott right now has his vote to TT in a relatively high-stakes situation so I don't think it's likely he would take that risk, but he could shennanie. EC / Skynx = Possible, Skynx posted a fair amount of stuff townreading EC in the early stages of the game. However, EC targets Skynx in Note 11, 12. Then defends him again in Note 13? However, goes back to putting him at top of the list in Note 20. EC / TT = Note 3; TT against EC. Note 7. Note 8. Note 10. EC softly defends TT in Note 14, 15. Again in 19. TT / Skynx = I find this one highly unlikely because Skynx spent a lot of posts questioning TT and questioning other people's reads of TT as town. Skynx also defends BtDT as "not a big target," even does it as a separate post after-thought. Note 5 had TT scumreading Skynx. Note 6. I need to see this post in post form before I can form further analysis. Mafia is unlikely to win this with 2 members left, they obv have to target each other today to not giveaway anything. Also his sudden switch of votes you questioned, I don't see how can you assign these two as unlikely. | ||
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D1: tr QT > sr Jealous > soft sr Tumble > sr me > tr Super & TT. Votes QT. General shitposting, focuses on QT/Jealous/Tumble trio. People are highly tr'ing him. N1: posts a list: TW | ||
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On June 14 2016 23:03 Skynx wrote: So here's an activity pattern D1: tr QT > sr Jealous > soft sr Tumble > sr me > tr Super & TT. Votes QT. General shitposting, focuses on QT/Jealous/Tumble trio. People are highly tr'ing him. N1: posts a list: TW N1: posts a list: TW, Moosy, FF, TT=town ; btdt, Scott, blk=null ; me, kush, super=scum. This was a serious list. Some beef with Super. D2: Heavy beef with Moosy > tr Super > questions Scott for his TT read ( ![]() N2: Not much, questions blueclaim strategy of Super. D3: solidifies tr on Super > sr Jeal/Moosy/Scott > slight tr on TT > doesn't jump straight in Moosy's claim > Agrees on claim after btdt screwup > Votes btdt. Same post style with questions and shitposts. Credited by Moosy. N3: posts list: me, Scott, TT=scum , Jeal, Super=town. Ranks TT less scummy than me&Scott > questions Scott posts. More serious posts. | ||
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I'm liking the fact that he pushes his questions over and over until he gets a reply, I'd think scum would just leave stuff hanging but this might be just very carefull play to not leave any traces. So he gets heavy accusations D2 (mostly out of his Jeal/QT/Tumble trio reads) and he's very calm about it. He doesn't really defend himself in any way and votes kush to save himself, also pointing out that the case on me is now kinda forgotten. As he abandons his Scott vote, his case becomes less powerfull. So today, he's forced into this situation where he has now no town credit because he had no previous btdt reads. He has to vote for others as previous occasions to save himself but there is still no coherent case on anybody or a solid defence on himself. Instinctively I don't think he can be scumteam with Scott because their beef goes long way. He defended TT against some people earlier on. He is scumreading me for a long time now but again no case. All that being said, if he is scum, he'd surely bring up some solid argument against me by now as many people are assigning me and him as scum team for a while now. Final thoughts: He absolutely has to defend himself right now. I don't feel he's town anymore but he is less scum than Scott & TT imo. I don't want to vote for him yet, but I will have to shennanie in case of no defence. If he flips scum, TT is final mafia and we win. | ||
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On June 15 2016 02:45 Superbia wrote: If you're town pls come into the thread now (whoever). I'm town, are we lynching emperor? | ||
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On June 15 2016 02:12 Superbia wrote: I was seriously ready to call it scott/skynx but then TT had to play out this hot garbage world which either makes him shit town or WIFOM mafia. Scott/TT or TT/EC? | ||
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On June 15 2016 02:25 Jealous wrote: One day two, the votes were tied 4/3 Kush/EC after I voted. Next to vote was Scott, who made it 4/4. That is when EC switched to kush to make it 5/4, which potentially means nothing because it could be him saving his hide, or it could mean everything if he is scum and both remaining scum had already voted for kush so scum had no more votes to swing on. At that time, kush still hadn't switched his vote to EC to make it 5/5 and blkcoffee was still a variable that could have presented itself. That's why I strongly believe that between EC/Skynx/TT we will find our last two scum, but out of those 3 the most evident are EC/Skynx. Skynx has provided a lot of content these past few pages, which is nice, but while reading it almost felt like he was reaching for a dreamworld of some sort, like building a card castle to the moon. Also, it was relatively uncharacteristic of his prior posting habits. It's nice to see him make a late push like this and I will relook it before I leave for class. Lol which part makes you feel that? Anyway I tried to stay consistent but I'm busy during the day. Why is Scott not mafia? | ||
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On June 15 2016 04:12 Jealous wrote: I feel that way partially because you're painting TT as scum and I don't think he is. I follow your logic on TT's posting habits but I don't agree with it. You seem to agree with an EC/TT team, so vote EC. You could just say you disagree with my opinion and which part of it rather than me reaching a dreamworld. I am voting now he's here. | ||
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On June 15 2016 07:13 Superbia wrote: What happened to this? Why is emperor now more scummy than TT? That's a big turn around. Emperor is scum for lack of defence, dropping reads on Scott D3. Kinda similar to how Scott completely switched from voting to you then dropping it after btdt became inevitable. I actually can't decide who is more scummy between those 3. | ||
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Thats just a brief resume, go back 3 pages man. | ||
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On June 15 2016 07:27 Superbia wrote: How do you feel about the fact that his team mate must've voted him? Its gona be same with btdt vote, if we don't do something about it no information will come out of it. | ||
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On June 15 2016 07:45 emperorchampion wrote: Where did skynx go? Im here man, just thinking | ||
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On June 15 2016 07:53 emperorchampion wrote: fine we won boys! Man you never win; if u town this is gg right now. If u scum the team is on its last leg. Well, i'm convinced now. | ||
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On June 15 2016 07:57 Jealous wrote: Just gonna say this pre-emptively: if Superbia is scum, it is the play of the game, and TT's read is the read of all time. That is all. Then why did he not pursue it? We've been through this man. | ||
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On June 15 2016 11:16 Tictock wrote: Err actually I'm wrong. If super is town and one of scott or skynx switched (along with Emp ofc) it would only tie things up and Emp still gets lynched. Emp's votes here are probably WIFOM but man did he flail hard. It's kinda interesting that he didn't join Super on me in an effort to save himself. Man why you're answering yourself? | ||
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On June 15 2016 16:36 Superbia wrote: How does any of this make me scum? Your storyline is that I bus my team mate during mylo d1 super super hard and then hard defend my other team mate during mylo 2 super super hard. How does this fit the narrative for me as scum? Also I could've switched to scott (both skynx and EC were willing to vote), but didn't. What is my scum agenda TT? You don't have to defend yourself here, Scott was never getting lynched cuz TT was absent. | ||
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On June 15 2016 14:55 Jealous wrote: Tbh I am drunk so idk what I was thinking but it makes no sense to me right now so disregard this atm. What did you actually mean by that? It wouldn't make sense holding anything back from your point of view cuz you're confirmed town and prolly dead in couple of hours so try to explain your thought process please. | ||
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On June 16 2016 15:38 Superbia wrote: @work Skynx, please explain your thought rationale behind "being tactically afk" during EoD2. You mean after EoD1. I was travelling N1 and didn't have internet on EoD2. I don't know how we keep coming back to this. Pages 51-52 was mega active in terms of reads, list posts, questionnaires and I was the main target of accusations cuz of mislynch on QT. + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2016 13:11 Tumblewood wrote: gonna have to convince me because I'm not really seeing it either way we're lynching skynx tomorrow (or maybe you or scott... definitely neither of emperor or tt though) + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2016 13:05 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Sorry ff isn't scummy. Hmmm this dude skanks tho... Seems really unatural how hedges his read at the end when he acted so sure for the rest of the post. + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2016 20:53 Skynx wrote: Good morning people! Not having much else to do I actually went through 3 pages of solid spam. I then also went to read QT filter: 1: Contentless town reads Including this one he made some town reads based on absolutely nothing, First 3 were kinda trying to get the game going but they don't benefit town as if you don't have some case on why someone is town why just claim them town, you're just promoting confusion. 2: Memes & one liners + Show Spoiler + 3: Ignoring valid posts that are making sense So tumble posted this about the spam His response: As town, why would you wanna lynch someone is trying to make sense, if you're serious that is. 4: Diverting attention by linking old stuff These are where he understands he's not making a lot of sense so lets bring up old arguments and create some diversion. Super wasn't serious and you should've read the guide already, these are irrelevant to the discussion where people actually started to scumread him. Please enlighten me if you think he has made 1 usefull/towny post. Even if you think he might be town, these constant flow of useless posts are last thing we need and lynching him would benefit town more than plynching an afk for now, i don't think he will make positive contributions later on. ##Vote: QuickTwist + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2016 13:55 MoosyDoosy wrote: good night !! I'm tempted to call you mafia for seeming to know quicktwist's alignment so well and it would make complete sense for you and jealous to be teammates but I'm not 100% sure on that read. Aaaand you're calling Skynx mafia which is one of my reads. hmph tumblew00d, beeentheeereeedoneeethat seem town. and shitfeast. oh and some tickitytock. i do like coffee too so i'm going with bikcafé. no idea about scotterino31337. he was town but that was be4 he got his role. there's superbia who i really really really really really really really really really really really really really want to kill but he looks town. ![]() which leaves me with emperorchAmpi0n, skankyskynx as scum. oh and you and jealous are in a weird spot for me. :D It's the special place in my heart where everyone too scummy to be town and too townie to be blue are in. one thing i know for certain is that i'm not going to die tonight since i'm the mafia goon and i'm dealing out the kp this night. ALso i'm doctor so i'm gonna protect skynx. aaaand as veteran i have another life so i'm completely oK for this night. + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2016 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote: Given that Fecalfeast tried to initiate shenanigans makes me townread him. Since QT flipped town, there was absolutely no need for scum to try shenanigans. There were no other wagon on its way, so the mislynch must have been safe. It is interesting to note that I ended up with two votes, due to the attempted shenanigans. I'm wondering why, I don't think I appear too scummy and I think I should definitely be part of any town circle that there is. I am easily readable, I try to establish my thought processes, and I kept my vote on MoosyDoosy: noone confirmed the meta/"is he able to emulate his town meta" question yet (besides himself). Also, his vote made the difference: shenanigans could've worked if he wouldn't have been the 5th guy to vote QT. As a further note, Tumblewood still feels very townie to me. So I'll form my own town circle containing Superbia, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jealous and myself (I have to review Superbia though, I don't remember much from the end of D1 that I really liked. Still town pile, though). Following that pattern, we could easily have all three scum players on QuickTwist. Removing Jealous as my town read, it comes down to: Skynx, emperorchampion, scott31337, MoosyDoosy Of those four players, scott had two votes cast on him, temporarily three due to the QT vote. That might have triggered MoosyDoosy to finalize the wagon of QT. What do you think about scott and MoosyDoosy, guys? I feel like I might have found a connection here. While it's not enough for a lynch IMHO, it should be enough to justify a potential power role action. One should examine those guys at night very closely. I think it's too early to completely go by process of elimination - but I strongly suggest to not lynch outside of those players as the chance of having one or more scummers among those four bolded lads is very high. My nulls (i.e. todos) are thekushmountains and Tictock. Now I found that very interesting as why would everyone all of a sudden became so active in a period where mafia has all the power. In my opinion one of these had to be scum due to the fact that they were fairly inactive D1 and now trying to get a wagon going on on me in a period where they can't even vote. I was basically drawing conclusions that can lead me to post reads in D2 where I can actually vote. So imo Tumble was town because he already tried to shift the shennanie towards me. Moosy was unreadable and btdt post was bollocks in terms of reads. That led me to vote kush. | ||
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I was feeling like doodling around with mega filter digs yesterday but I'll be quite busy today until the evening. I don't think i can recover from here anyway, I didn't even expect to survive D3. Shoutout to Relsjwa. WP everyone, sry for early gg ![]() | ||
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On June 17 2016 21:56 Jealous wrote: From the mafia QT, quoting Skynx after D1: "Moosy, super n jealous are nonfactors." I have great respect for Moosy and Super for crafting this image when in the end they proved to be two of the most pivotal town players. No shame on you Skynx, D1/2 were mad confusing, it felt like the wild wild West. But to have these two players come out in force in D3 and be "non-factors" in D2 is just so pro. ![]() | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Original Message From Rels: Gl hf ![]() What tt is doing is townie and if you have the time to commit to it you should do it too: go through every filter of the people still living and point out things you find of note,t townie or scummy. Then decide your lynch target based of it + Show Spoiler + | ||
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