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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 09 2016 09:14 GMT
#1501
EBWOP:

"if he flips scum, we can be pretty sure that at least two, maybe all three scummers have voted the thekushmointains train"

-> if he flips town.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 09 2016 09:20 GMT
#1502
EBWOP again:

-> if he flips scum. I'm just messing up my thought process. Sorry for the confusion.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10356 Posts
June 09 2016 09:39 GMT
#1503
@Superbia the sad thing is we're not sure if any of those roles even exist ( _ _
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10356 Posts
June 09 2016 09:40 GMT
#1504
The above face should have been like ( _ _ ; )
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 10:06 GMT
#1505
On June 09 2016 18:39 Jealous wrote:
@Superbia the sad thing is we're not sure if any of those roles even exist ( _ _


There are two. Everyone but medic should prob claim tomorrow depending on whether we lose prs in night.
Minimal effort.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10356 Posts
June 09 2016 10:11 GMT
#1506
On June 09 2016 19:06 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 18:39 Jealous wrote:
@Superbia the sad thing is we're not sure if any of those roles even exist ( _ _


There are two. Everyone but medic should prob claim tomorrow depending on whether we lose prs in night.

Why? Doesn't that make it all-too-easy for scum? Do you mean that in desperation we have to coordinate PRs publicly in the scum's eyes? I'm guessing detective would reveal what he has found out by now (but how would we know he really is detective?), and what would vet be good for in that situation anyway?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 09 2016 11:02 GMT
#1507
Holy shit
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 11:03 GMT
#1508
Because we need the info. Do not claim during the night. Except at 5s to EoD or something.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 11:03 GMT
#1509
EoN.*
Minimal effort.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10356 Posts
June 09 2016 11:10 GMT
#1510
On June 09 2016 20:03 Superbia wrote:
Because we need the info. Do not claim during the night. Except at 5s to EoD or something.

So let's say a vet and a detective claim. What would we do from that point on? There is a very limited amount of possibilities, might as well strategize now if this is the plan?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10356 Posts
June 09 2016 11:11 GMT
#1511
What if multiple people claim the same role? Would posting first be given any weight, given the disparity of people's sleep schedules?

I just don't see how this works out in town's favor or how it would be manageable.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 11:27 GMT
#1512
On June 09 2016 20:10 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 20:03 Superbia wrote:
Because we need the info. Do not claim during the night. Except at 5s to EoD or something.

So let's say a vet and a detective claim. What would we do from that point on? There is a very limited amount of possibilities, might as well strategize now if this is the plan?


The two claims form a confirmed town circle. If there is only 1 claim then a medic is alive and hiding.

I will elaborate more once I get home/am in bus.
Minimal effort.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 09 2016 13:07 GMT
#1513
[QUOTE]On June 09 2016 14:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 09 2016 10:23 emperorchampion wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 09 2016 09:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also note that this is the same line of reasoning as to why Fecalfeast is likely town. He was the only person to suggest shenannies from the QuickTwist lynch at EoD. If Fecal was Mafia, he would only be pushing off of town which is not what Mafia wants. It's possible Fecal attempted to push off of QuickTwist expecting people not to switch and to look townie off of it but the possibility of that is low enough that we can assume Fecal is town for now and look at other people. Not to mention this does look like his town meta although that’s a less reliable metric.[/QUOTE]

Didn't fecal want to shenanie btdt who you read as town? I'm confused how you read fecal as town from this exchange? If the shenanie goes through and btdt flips town then you read fecal as mafia (very obviously). Just seems like wifom, and the most you can draw from it is null.[/QUOTE]
But there was no need for him to do anything. He could have just avoided attention and let the lynch through. The fact that he said something about it and drew attention to himself makes him more likely to be town. Considering the odds of him being town to scum, I'd say it's more productive to say he's town for now and look for scum elsewhere. Going down tinfoil paths isn't really helpful.

[QUOTE]On June 09 2016 10:27 emperorchampion wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 09 2016 09:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
So as it stands, I want to look between emperor/Skynx again because I do think it’s likely there’s a Mafia between the two of them or I’m wrong and town would just unbelievably screwed at that point.[/QUOTE]

Or if you are [/QUOTE]
Of course. I already hard claimed Mafia. Godfather to be exact. I'm still confused why I'm not lynched by you guys yet.

Ooh nice, I had you pinned as Goon :o
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 09 2016 13:08 GMT
#1514
whoops, oh well
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 09 2016 13:27 GMT
#1515
On June 09 2016 20:11 Jealous wrote:
What if multiple people claim the same role? Would posting first be given any weight, given the disparity of people's sleep schedules?

I just don't see how this works out in town's favor or how it would be manageable.


I think we just hold on for a little bit until everyone has posted, I think if two people claim it's good for town.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 13:57 GMT
#1516
PRs should insta claim forst thing tomorrow so there is time for cc wars. Also if you are the medic and you think you're going to get lynched, claim early.
Minimal effort.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10356 Posts
June 09 2016 18:03 GMT
#1517
1. What are cc wars?

2. No one has explained yet why revealing to the mafia who the blue PR roles are has any benefit to the town whatsoever.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 09 2016 18:40 GMT
#1518
If a blue claims and nobody counterclaims we can't know if it's a real claim until a second blue claims. If two blues claim and nobody counterclaims (either with a third blue role or the same as one of the claimers) we can assume that both blue roles are town eliminating two people from the lynch pool and effectively controlling the nightkills from mafia.

Claim wars is when mafia decides to risk counterclaiming with hopes of getting the blue role(s) lynched first. In the situation we are in it is fairly likely mafia will try to counter in this way as a failed counterclaim(mafia claimer is lynched) mafia still has two members.

That being said I think mafia has been sitting pretty all game and we need to start looking into people who seem towny.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 09 2016 18:54 GMT
#1519
I agree both days went down in a similar manner with maf not having to risk themselves at all, they can just vote however they want.


Now i just need to cook up a huge post to get everyone off my back...
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 09 2016 19:01 GMT
#1520
Also using shenanigans for reads in these scenarios is completely bonkers
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