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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 08 2016 23:07 GMT
#1461
I was trying to get back before EoD to make sure something stupid didn't happen and it looks like it did.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 08 2016 23:09 GMT
#1462
On June 06 2016 12:06 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
jealous, let the blues make their own decisions. Just help us figure out who is scum then convince people to vote that person.

On June 06 2016 12:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 12:05 Jealous wrote:
On June 06 2016 12:02 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@JEALOUS why is blkcoffee scum?

He may or may not be, hard to tell from his scant post history and from the fact that he didn't vote at all. I'd lynch him just for not voting to be honest. If he is town and doesn't participate, he is useless to us. If he is scum and doesn't participate, then he'll flip red.


but being scum would not make him more likely to not vote.
in fact, scum is more likely to remember to vote because they don't want to screw over their small scumteam.

So you would have us waste our day 2 lynch on someone who has a less than average chance of flipping scum?

On June 06 2016 19:52 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Dude if jealous is mafia he's not dying till lylo

On June 07 2016 11:35 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
jealous. no offense but I think you might be the biggest newb of all time.

Dudes. I already said this. kush was saying too correct things to be mafia. He was very right about certain things he would never say as Mafia.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 08 2016 23:10 GMT
#1463
rip kush only person to entertain me D1 with your posts.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 08 2016 23:11 GMT
#1464
On June 09 2016 06:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
Hello guys. I am finally here, logged in on a friend's computer. I could not play thus far and have not caught up to the thread. Based on my reads from last day and having seen the kills, I strongly suggest to lynch into one of (oh, the irony) low volume player. The last 48 hours have produced very little discussion and I feel like lynching afk people is a good thing.

I will place my vote on thekushmountains for that purpose. Please note that my real life issues will probably continue for the next 24 hours, so do not expect great activity from my side. Sorry, again. Good night everyone.

##vote nnn_thekushmountians

This guy is town too no matter what.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 08 2016 23:13 GMT
#1465
On June 09 2016 07:29 Tictock wrote:
Yea we should be lynching Kush here guys. I'm not feeling any of these other lynches.

I will have to berate some people if Emp gets lynched and flips town.

go bury yourself in a hole of shame Tictock. Worst part is you're probably town too.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 08 2016 23:19 GMT
#1466
fuck me, I got tied up with a bunch of stuff at once and hoped I'd make it back for deadline.

Shitty
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10314 Posts
June 08 2016 23:34 GMT
#1467
Well, that didn't go as expected. I honestly thought kush would have flipped red and I'd have something to work off of. So far this to me just points that Scott is most likely town. Emperorchampion trying to save his own hide can go either way. The other votes could be more suspect. I particularly didn't like Tictock's defensiveness that I was probing. Will have to look back at some things.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10314 Posts
June 08 2016 23:37 GMT
#1468
On June 09 2016 08:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 07:29 Tictock wrote:
Yea we should be lynching Kush here guys. I'm not feeling any of these other lynches.

I will have to berate some people if Emp gets lynched and flips town.

go bury yourself in a hole of shame Tictock. Worst part is you're probably town too.

Why do you think so?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 00:06 GMT
#1469
On June 09 2016 08:37 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 08:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 09 2016 07:29 Tictock wrote:
Yea we should be lynching Kush here guys. I'm not feeling any of these other lynches.

I will have to berate some people if Emp gets lynched and flips town.

go bury yourself in a hole of shame Tictock. Worst part is you're probably town too.

Why do you think so?

His EoD behavior was crazy suspicious but that's only with 20/20 hindsight. It's not the first time Tictock's been completely wrong on something before since he's always testing things. His posts throughout the game have been pretty decent too.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 00:07 GMT
#1470
On June 09 2016 05:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Meh, I don't know who to vote for. Should we just lynch kush and if he flips town kill Skynx?

Are we gonna go with this for D3?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10314 Posts
June 09 2016 00:10 GMT
#1471
On June 09 2016 09:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 05:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Meh, I don't know who to vote for. Should we just lynch kush and if he flips town kill Skynx?

Are we gonna go with this for D3?

I fail to see the connection between the two. If anyone, I'd vote Tictock right now.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 00:11 GMT
#1472
On June 09 2016 09:10 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 09:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 09 2016 05:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Meh, I don't know who to vote for. Should we just lynch kush and if he flips town kill Skynx?

Are we gonna go with this for D3?

I fail to see the connection between the two. If anyone, I'd vote Tictock right now.

Was his behavior suspicious at EoD? Like when you were present and reading his posts at that time.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 00:16 GMT
#1473
Also, if we're going to momentarily assume that Tictock is scum. Why would he draw so much attention to himself with shenannies at EoD? What would have been his goal at that time?

Note: This isn't me questioning you because I think you're Mafia, I just think this is a decent learning opportunity.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10314 Posts
June 09 2016 00:35 GMT
#1474
On June 09 2016 09:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 09:10 Jealous wrote:
On June 09 2016 09:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 09 2016 05:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Meh, I don't know who to vote for. Should we just lynch kush and if he flips town kill Skynx?

Are we gonna go with this for D3?

I fail to see the connection between the two. If anyone, I'd vote Tictock right now.

Was his behavior suspicious at EoD? Like when you were present and reading his posts at that time.

I found him adamantly defending EC to be suspicious. There is a possibility he was trying to find inconsistencies in my play and thus went that route. However, I have to go by what I know: we lynched town today, Tictock defended an unknown and pushed hard for kush.

On June 09 2016 09:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, if we're going to momentarily assume that Tictock is scum. Why would he draw so much attention to himself with shenannies at EoD? What would have been his goal at that time?

Note: This isn't me questioning you because I think you're Mafia, I just think this is a decent learning opportunity.


Apparently shenannies are SOP around here. I was waved off almost dismissively when I brought it up, although they admitted it was a bad look. However, who here voted for any of the people who shenannied on Day 1? No one. Not much was spoken about it anywhere. Also, Tictock never shennanied, unless I missed something.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 00:47 GMT
#1475
There was a chance emperor or Skynx would have been lynched until Tictock told everyone to vote for kush. This made you and emperor to switch votes onto kush.

Now, the reason why Tictock would expose himself like with the shenannies at EoD would be if either emperor or Skynx were his Mafia teammates and he wanted to push off of them and onto town!kush. That's assuming if Tictock's Mafia of course.

On the other hand, there's the possibility that Tictock was just misled town which as I said, is not uncommon.

The best course of action wouldn't be to go after Tictock in this scenario, but to look at the people who caused it. Either as Mafia or not, the fact remains that he pushed off of emperor/Skynx. If emperor/Skynx were Mafia teammates with Tictock, then it's fine to go for them as when we find the Mafia in them, it'll lead us to Tictock next day. In the scenario where Tictock was misled town, emperor/Skynx still have a high chance of flipping Mafia on their own.

So either way, it's best to go after emperor/Skynx and let Tictock sort himself out for a later day. It gives us more time to discern his alignment. As it is, the only thing you're doing is pulling the trigger right away as a gut reaction to a bad flip. But note that the same situation happened in D1 with you where you were part of a mislynch on QuickTwist.

So I'd advise taking a step back for now.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 00:51 GMT
#1476
Also note that this is the same line of reasoning as to why Fecalfeast is likely town. He was the only person to suggest shenannies from the QuickTwist lynch at EoD. If Fecal was Mafia, he would only be pushing off of town which is not what Mafia wants. It's possible Fecal attempted to push off of QuickTwist expecting people not to switch and to look townie off of it but the possibility of that is low enough that we can assume Fecal is town for now and look at other people. Not to mention this does look like his town meta although that’s a less reliable metric.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 00:51 GMT
#1477
Also note that the Fecal analysis isn’t actually originally my thought but beentheredonethat’s which is partially why I’m townreading him.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 00:53 GMT
#1478
So as it stands, I want to look between emperor/Skynx again because I do think it’s likely there’s a Mafia between the two of them or I’m wrong and town would just unbelievably screwed at that point.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 09 2016 01:23 GMT
#1479
On June 09 2016 09:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also note that this is the same line of reasoning as to why Fecalfeast is likely town. He was the only person to suggest shenannies from the QuickTwist lynch at EoD. If Fecal was Mafia, he would only be pushing off of town which is not what Mafia wants. It's possible Fecal attempted to push off of QuickTwist expecting people not to switch and to look townie off of it but the possibility of that is low enough that we can assume Fecal is town for now and look at other people. Not to mention this does look like his town meta although that’s a less reliable metric.


Didn't fecal want to shenanie btdt who you read as town? I'm confused how you read fecal as town from this exchange? If the shenanie goes through and btdt flips town then you read fecal as mafia (very obviously). Just seems like wifom, and the most you can draw from it is null.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 09 2016 01:27 GMT
#1480
On June 09 2016 09:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
So as it stands, I want to look between emperor/Skynx again because I do think it’s likely there’s a Mafia between the two of them or I’m wrong and town would just unbelievably screwed at that point.


Or if you are
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