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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 01:48 GMT
#1481
Tictock didn't switch votes, am I just misunderstanding the meaning of shennanie?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 01:49 GMT
#1482
Also it never made me switch my vote, I was going to vote kush from the jump. I voted EC to draw reactions. I switched to kush in respect to my original thought processes, which were again wrong ;;
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
June 09 2016 02:43 GMT
#1483
Rip me
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 09 2016 03:32 GMT
#1484
For Science people!
On June 09 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote:
Ok, wasn't sure how I wanted to do this... I'm gunna try and just keep it simple.

I've prepared a few questions for everyone, they might be a little strange but if you could humor me. This is for science.

1) Emperorchampion - How difficult is this game for you? Is it easier or harder than you expected? Is there anybody who has a style of play that you admire or enjoy?
2) Skynx - Assume you got Vig shot right this moment (eliminated from the game)... What is the first thing you would do? Both Kush and me flip scum, how might you start looking for the last scum?
4) Scott31337 - What do you like to do to develop reads? What is your opinion of the current atmosphere of the game? Disregarding low activity, who is your weakest read?
5) blkcoffee -
6) Jealous - How is the return to TL Mafia going? You suggested that you enjoy having a role with some power, have you ever played in a game where everyone has some role/ability? If not, does it sound appealing?
1) beentheredonethat - How do you feel about your play so far this game compared to past games? How confident do you feel in your reads right now?
3) MooooooosyDooooosy - Scale of 1-5 how much fun are you having in this game? Does it compare to any recent games? Assume you are able to make some very game influential move before you die, would you prefer to clinch the game near LyLo or secure an early lead?
4) nnn_thekushmountians - What has gone right this game? What has gone wrong? How should we learn from our mistakes rather than make them again?
5) Superbia - Where do you get your drive from? What gets you motivated? What needs cultivating right now?
6) FecalFeast - What do you cling to? What right now is most disturbing or upsetting to you? Is it important to keep our first impressions or should we always be letting the waves of information influence us?

This took a surprisingly long time... Was hoping to have it finished last night, but I was too tired after GSL.


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Science!
I can take that responsibility.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 09 2016 05:12 GMT
#1485
On June 09 2016 10:23 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 09:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also note that this is the same line of reasoning as to why Fecalfeast is likely town. He was the only person to suggest shenannies from the QuickTwist lynch at EoD. If Fecal was Mafia, he would only be pushing off of town which is not what Mafia wants. It's possible Fecal attempted to push off of QuickTwist expecting people not to switch and to look townie off of it but the possibility of that is low enough that we can assume Fecal is town for now and look at other people. Not to mention this does look like his town meta although that’s a less reliable metric.


Didn't fecal want to shenanie btdt who you read as town? I'm confused how you read fecal as town from this exchange? If the shenanie goes through and btdt flips town then you read fecal as mafia (very obviously). Just seems like wifom, and the most you can draw from it is null.

But there was no need for him to do anything. He could have just avoided attention and let the lynch through. The fact that he said something about it and drew attention to himself makes him more likely to be town. Considering the odds of him being town to scum, I'd say it's more productive to say he's town for now and look for scum elsewhere. Going down tinfoil paths isn't really helpful.

On June 09 2016 10:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 09:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
So as it stands, I want to look between emperor/Skynx again because I do think it’s likely there’s a Mafia between the two of them or I’m wrong and town would just unbelievably screwed at that point.


Or if you are

Of course. I already hard claimed Mafia. Godfather to be exact. I'm still confused why I'm not lynched by you guys yet.

On June 09 2016 10:48 Jealous wrote:
Tictock didn't switch votes, am I just misunderstanding the meaning of shennanie?

Shenannie means switching votes en masse at EoD. Doesn't necessarily have to be the person itself, but Tictock was telling people to switch to kush. Maybe it's the wrong technical term but it doesn't really matter. He was just looking to change votes quickly at EoD.

On June 09 2016 10:49 Jealous wrote:
Also it never made me switch my vote, I was going to vote kush from the jump. I voted EC to draw reactions. I switched to kush in respect to my original thought processes, which were again wrong ;;

hm...interesting.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 07:00 GMT
#1486
And just like that, the game slows down. Kush didn't post as much as many others but not as little as some, but the eerie quiet is uncanny. I truly wonder, what is going through the heads of people now.

Can I get some thoughts from everyone? As in, what do you think of how the last two days went and what can be done better? For the town to succeed, something has to change about how we operate. I'm not experienced enough what that change should be, but as it is going now, we will be down 4 townies in 2 day/nights. That makes us 6 to 3 come Day 3, if we assume that a replacement will be made for BC. That's not a good place to be in.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10382 Posts
June 09 2016 07:01 GMT
#1487
I'm not experienced enough to know**
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 07:20 GMT
#1488
Man. Sorry guys. I need to step up my game and take control more. =/ Work just has me pinned down and it also prevents me from being here during EoD.

I'm going to be super selfish and request a medic save on me. Tomorrow is Friday and I can start pouring some actual time into the game. Also I can finally be part of EoD.

If there is a vigi, you should probably shoot emperorchampion. It's paramount that we figure out how the wagons were set up.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 07:22 GMT
#1489
Also Moosy, if either of us makes it through the night you're going to be my townbuddy. Your "I don't have anyone to ping thoughts with" resonated with me. I feel the same way. TT/FF are not doing it for me.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 07:22 GMT
#1490
Though if you disappoint I'm going to throw you in a pit.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 08:06 GMT
#1491
Actually RNG the save between Moosy and myself.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 08:21 GMT
#1492
Actually vigi should hold his shot bc if you misshoot we're in mylo.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 08:22 GMT
#1493
Cop should probably always claim tomorrow.
Minimal effort.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 09 2016 09:08 GMT
#1494
Okay, hello everyone. I am here, having some "spare" time at work, and will be here for the next few hours. Seeing MoosyDoosy's development in the last day, I want to refrain from my scum read. I think his participation and also the value of his posts greatly increased during the last cycle, and although I do not agree fully with everything that he says, I can see and understand where he's coming from with his opinions and reads.

Contrary to day one, we actually had two wagons forming, one on emperorchampion and one on kushmountains. For some time, it was a rather close call (4 votes vs. 4 votes), and EC himself plus Jealous where responsible for the final hammer on thekushmountains. Jealous IMHO is still a townie although I'm feeling a bit paranoid about the blank pass I gave him thus far. Not enough to not townread him though.

We have had only two wagons. So I say we lynch emperorchampion the next day and we'll learn a LOT: if he flips scum, we can be pretty sure that at least two, maybe all three scummers have voted the thekushmointains train. There was noone (besides kush himself) who voted outside of the wagons which makes me assume that this lynch wagon was actually a scum vs. town wagon.

If there is a vigilante in, I strongly suggest to kill emperorchampion this night. Superbia already did this but then said it's a bad idea - I don't think it's a bad idea. Emperorchampion has the highest chance to flip scum out of everyone who's currently playing this game IMHO.

Also, what about blkCoffee? Having someone in who's potentially lurking can be (and is!) detrimental for town. It's the second time he did not vote nor is he participating. Will we see a flip any time soon? A replacement?

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 09:10 GMT
#1495
If blkcoffee is flipping/getting modkilled then vigi should shoot emperorchampion. Otherwise we hold the vigi shot because we get an extra day and therefore an extra night of night actions.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 09:11 GMT
#1496
Currently it's 6v3 after tonight, bar a medic save (if blkcofee doesn't flip and vigi doesn't shoot). Which means we get 1 more lynch (4v3 if misslynch).
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 09:12 GMT
#1497
Like 5v3 is detrimental for town because we cannot no-lynch.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 09:12 GMT
#1498
Is blkcoffee getting modkilled?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 09:13 GMT
#1499
Tbf the fact that he didn't get modkilled already probably means he isn't VT lololol.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 09 2016 09:13 GMT
#1500
That's superspeculative and shouldn't affect anything. But still probably true.

Inb4PR
Minimal effort.
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