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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
June 16 2016 22:47 GMT
#2261
Vote Count: Day 5


Skynx (1): Tictock

Not Voting (3): scott31337, Skynx, Superbia

Currently Skynx will be executed. Day 5 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 17 2016 02:54 GMT
#2262
It's a good thing we picked it up for the final day, huh guys?
I can take that responsibility.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 05:53 GMT
#2263
Haha work has me busy. For me this day comes down to you and skynx. Ill be around in ~10hrs or so to question a bit. I'd prefer it if you could both (skynx and tt) be around at around that time for some inquisitional questions.
Minimal effort.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 17 2016 06:27 GMT
#2264
Noting a bunch of read posts from Emp and BtDt.

+ Show Spoiler [Emperor's] +
On June 06 2016 03:03 emperorchampion wrote:
I think that Skynx could be scum, not really sure on the rest since I haven't looked too much into it due to not having too much time atm. Superbia / Tictock seem town.

Fecalfeast / scott not really sure. Seems like a mafia move to push an afk tho, so I don't know what it accomplishes. I think my vote has to go into tumble / QT / Jealous to figure this out.

On June 06 2016 20:58 emperorchampion wrote:
Half-Life 3 confirmed tier (Release date: soon (tm))
- Tumble
- Moosy
- fecal
- ticktock

Null
- btdt
- scott
- blkcoffee

Cesar's Army
- kush
- super
- skynx

My feelings at the moment, will post more when at office.


On June 08 2016 00:40 emperorchampion wrote:
Merci! crazy to see you flip this way!

I think super's filter is "empty" as well (obv not in terms of pages), I think he's pretty sketchy. Given who I think is town, it's left down to him as mafia. One issue is that there are a number of wildcards, aka blkcoffee and scott who I have no idea what they could be due to the fact that they haven't really posted anything. So for now super fill this slot.

Skynx I would have to look more thoroughly through his filter for specific examples, but I never got the sense that his posts were genuine.



On June 12 2016 02:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 18:20 Superbia wrote:
Jesus christ read my posts people.

There is always 1 vigi OR cop (never 1 cop AND 1 vigi or 2 cops or w/e).
There is always 1 doc OR vet (never 1 doc AND 1 vet or 2 docs or w/e).


Yes, but the assumption of vig is based on framer, which is only claimed by btdt. However, given that there haven't been any counter claims on doc or vet, it seems likely that there is actually a framer, and a therefore that Jealous is indeed the vet.

Anyhooo, it's pretty clear that btdt is mafia. My earlier suspicion for scott is slightly cleared by moosy's innocence, but I'm not sure if I'm fully satisfied with the only basis for his read on TT being that it's similar to a previous game. My feelings for Skynx remain similar as before, I just don't get a genuine feeling for him. It's sad that last day came down to me vs kush, and skynx was completely forgotten.

Soo yeah, I'll probably be around a bit today if there's anything else. Rest of day + night will just be reading through filters I imagine.

On June 13 2016 08:20 emperorchampion wrote:
Sooo it doesn't look like anyone else is here atm, I think I'm out after this for the night


Here's my scum power ranking:
-Skynx
-Scott
-Tictock

Half-Life 3 Confirmed List:
-Jealsus
-Super


I stopped grabbing all the posts near the end of Emp's filter kus his is kinda long. Basically he went into his final day with a fairly strong scumread on Skynx, but his first vote was once again on Scott (who he pushed quite a bit this game actually, I didn't bother grabbing all those posts here either but they are there).

+ Show Spoiler [BtDt's] +

On June 06 2016 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote:
Given that Fecalfeast tried to initiate shenanigans makes me townread him. Since QT flipped town, there was absolutely no need for scum to try shenanigans. There were no other wagon on its way, so the mislynch must have been safe.

It is interesting to note that I ended up with two votes, due to the attempted shenanigans. I'm wondering why, I don't think I appear too scummy and I think I should definitely be part of any town circle that there is. I am easily readable, I try to establish my thought processes, and I kept my vote on MoosyDoosy: noone confirmed the meta/"is he able to emulate his town meta" question yet (besides himself). Also, his vote made the difference: shenanigans could've worked if he wouldn't have been the 5th guy to vote QT.

As a further note, Tumblewood still feels very townie to me. So I'll form my own town circle containing Superbia, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jealous and myself (I have to review Superbia though, I don't remember much from the end of D1 that I really liked. Still town pile, though). Following that pattern, we could easily have all three scum players on QuickTwist. Removing Jealous as my town read, it comes down to:

Skynx, emperorchampion, scott31337, MoosyDoosy

Of those four players, scott had two votes cast on him, temporarily three due to the QT vote. That might have triggered MoosyDoosy to finalize the wagon of QT. What do you think about scott and MoosyDoosy, guys? I feel like I might have found a connection here. While it's not enough for a lynch IMHO, it should be enough to justify a potential power role action. One should examine those guys at night very closely.

I think it's too early to completely go by process of elimination - but I strongly suggest to not lynch outside of those players as the chance of having one or more scummers among those four bolded lads is very high.

My nulls (i.e. todos) are thekushmountains and Tictock.



There was a lot of pushing on Super towards the end of BtDt's filter as well.

Oh also some formatting got messed up in #1232 which I gave up trying to keep in Emp's section.

I think it's pretty clear looking through these guy's filters that Skynx is the last scum. He stays in the background of both their reads as either scum or null but is never the focus of any of their pushes. It's most obv in Emps since he has a larger filter, but there is minor evidence in BtDt's as well.

In contrast I found a decent bit of legit looking pressure on both Scott and Super in both their filters.
I can take that responsibility.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 06:30 GMT
#2265
Tbf I'm also leaning the way of skynx. I'm going to fairly analyse you+skynx when I get home but not sure if it will change my opinion.
Minimal effort.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 17 2016 06:30 GMT
#2266
On June 17 2016 14:53 Superbia wrote:
Haha work has me busy. For me this day comes down to you and skynx. Ill be around in ~10hrs or so to question a bit. I'd prefer it if you could both (skynx and tt) be around at around that time for some inquisitional questions.


Uhg, weird time for me. No promises.
I can take that responsibility.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 06:31 GMT
#2267
Also btdt's end of (his) game should just be taken as WIFOM (though it seemed he was genuinely trying).
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 06:32 GMT
#2268
Actually it points to an all newbie-team as I believe at least one vet would've just said "cut your losses and bus".
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 06:32 GMT
#2269
How was EC going about btdt's claim?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 06:33 GMT
#2270
Also EC pocketed me hard this game and I'm proud of him. :D I never wanted to suspect him because he was funny and nice.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 06:35 GMT
#2271
EC seemed to come in fairly late supporting 'my side' it seemed.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 06:36 GMT
#2272
Mannn jealous shouldn't have claimed. z_z he could've possibly reduced KP. Though if scum played it smart they would block+kp stack always.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 06:37 GMT
#2273
Maybe I should've CC doc instead in retrospect. But that would've been super-risky. Especially in a newbie game.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 06:37 GMT
#2274
o well.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 06:39 GMT
#2275
I think if you were genuinely lurking EoD4 (TT) then you might've switched to scott since I had the votes rallied up.
Minimal effort.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 17 2016 06:41 GMT
#2276
On June 17 2016 15:31 Superbia wrote:
Also btdt's end of (his) game should just be taken as WIFOM (though it seemed he was genuinely trying).


Yea his posts about you an Moosy seemed to be geniune OMGUS based.
I can take that responsibility.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 06:42 GMT
#2277
I can really respect putting in that much effort despite being mathematically beat. He even got jealous to claim.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 06:43 GMT
#2278
Some nice play all around this game from the newcomers. Jealous being right on EC as well.
Minimal effort.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 17 2016 06:46 GMT
#2279
On June 17 2016 15:39 Superbia wrote:
I think if you were genuinely lurking EoD4 (TT) then you might've switched to scott since I had the votes rallied up.


Prob not, my first though reading though that EoD was "Wow how hard is Super fighting this lynch"... Though yea idk if it woulda felt diff in the moment.

Though having just read over most of Emp's filter again he played really well. Hell I fought his lynch just as hard, if not harder, D2.
I can take that responsibility.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 17 2016 07:55 GMT
#2280
Tictock man why did you fake pressure Super, just to bait me?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
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