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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 15 2016 02:16 GMT
#2221
On June 15 2016 08:00 Shapelog wrote:
Final Day 4 vote count




emperorchampion(4): Jealous, Scott31337, Tictock, Skynx
Scott31337(0): Skynx, Emperorchampion
Tictock(1) Jealous, Superbia, Emperorchampion
Skynx(1): Scott31337, Emperorchampion



Err actually I'm wrong. If super is town and one of scott or skynx switched (along with Emp ofc) it would only tie things up and Emp still gets lynched.

Emp's votes here are probably WIFOM but man did he flail hard. It's kinda interesting that he didn't join Super on me in an effort to save himself.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 15 2016 02:23 GMT
#2222
On June 15 2016 06:02 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2016 15:23 Superbia wrote:
EC we have two lynches. If you could decide both of them, what would they be? And why?

Why is the third person town?


1) Scott 2) Skynx

Scott: got through the first 2 days based off of "I dunno who to vote I haven't gotten a role yet, I guess the person ahead of me". His one contribution was a list of reads which were based off of... well I'm not really sure. Especially odd I found was his read on TT, which was just "reminded me of another game I played". Day 3 is a wash. Now coming to day 4 he's pushing me (which is an obvious target given D2 lol), and has nothing to say about TT despite scum reading him all game (I guess for no reason after all). Hitches his vote with Jealous (who has voted incorrectly all game (not saying that I haven't), but that doesn't make any sense to me to vote with him for that reason alone). I dunno, it's like he doesn't even care if it's right or wrong.

Skynx: I've felt is mafia since the beginning of the game. Maybe he can just use noob as an excuse, but he was doing everything "by the guide", which doesn't make any sense to me at all. Its another one of those "oh if I'm wrong this is why", and not taking credit for things. Scum reads me for shitposting, but also shitposts.

Of course both will go for me, since I am the easy target given D2 voting.

TT is town because of a number of town posts. Also I believe that we have had a similar view on the game at many points during the game.


But anyways, guess I'm gettin' wagon'd again boys


Yea, pretty sure this means the last scum is never Skynx or Scott.

Clever that he threw out such a throwaway townread on me here though.

Tomorrow is 100% between me and Super.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 15 2016 02:26 GMT
#2223
On June 15 2016 07:52 Superbia wrote:
Idk EC. Tbf the closer this is getting to EoD the more likely I think it is you are scum. x;


This is such a shit post right before EoD.

Spent the whole time trying to get people to move to Scott and then me, then right before the flip "oh, yea I guess you could be scum"
I can take that responsibility.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10314 Posts
June 15 2016 04:12 GMT
#2224
It's incredibly interesting that you are trying to make this you vs. Superbia when I saw Skynx as the only scum remaining lol.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 15 2016 05:30 GMT
#2225
On June 15 2016 08:22 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 08:19 Superbia wrote:
You do realize that if people had actually suddenly switched I probably would've voted back on EC?

I have questions but I'd rather see how Scott responds first.

Scott if you dodge this scenario in the next 24 hours I will raise hell.


Could you be more specific?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10314 Posts
June 15 2016 05:55 GMT
#2226
On June 15 2016 14:30 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 08:22 Jealous wrote:
On June 15 2016 08:19 Superbia wrote:
You do realize that if people had actually suddenly switched I probably would've voted back on EC?

I have questions but I'd rather see how Scott responds first.

Scott if you dodge this scenario in the next 24 hours I will raise hell.


Could you be more specific?

Tbh I am drunk so idk what I was thinking but it makes no sense to me right now so disregard this atm.

"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 15 2016 07:36 GMT
#2227
On June 15 2016 11:26 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 07:52 Superbia wrote:
Idk EC. Tbf the closer this is getting to EoD the more likely I think it is you are scum. x;


This is such a shit post right before EoD.

Spent the whole time trying to get people to move to Scott and then me, then right before the flip "oh, yea I guess you could be scum"


How does any of this make me scum?

Your storyline is that I bus my team mate during mylo d1 super super hard and then hard defend my other team mate during mylo 2 super super hard. How does this fit the narrative for me as scum?

Also I could've switched to scott (both skynx and EC were willing to vote), but didn't. What is my scum agenda TT?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 15 2016 07:37 GMT
#2228
If you want to fight me tomorrow then we'll fight. Either way you need to be pressured as well. Where the fuck were you during EoD?
Minimal effort.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10314 Posts
June 15 2016 09:31 GMT
#2229
On June 15 2016 16:37 Superbia wrote:
If you want to fight me tomorrow then we'll fight. Either way you need to be pressured as well. Where the fuck were you during EoD?

Damn dude, never seen you get flustered like this so far. Why so angry?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 15 2016 10:01 GMT
#2230
On June 15 2016 18:31 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 16:37 Superbia wrote:
If you want to fight me tomorrow then we'll fight. Either way you need to be pressured as well. Where the fuck were you during EoD?

Damn dude, never seen you get flustered like this so far. Why so angry?


Because TT's a good player and he should know better than this. Idk, was just annoyed.
Minimal effort.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 15 2016 12:23 GMT
#2231
On June 15 2016 11:16 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 08:00 Shapelog wrote:
Final Day 4 vote count




emperorchampion(4): Jealous, Scott31337, Tictock, Skynx
Scott31337(0): Skynx, Emperorchampion
Tictock(1) Jealous, Superbia, Emperorchampion
Skynx(1): Scott31337, Emperorchampion



Err actually I'm wrong. If super is town and one of scott or skynx switched (along with Emp ofc) it would only tie things up and Emp still gets lynched.

Emp's votes here are probably WIFOM but man did he flail hard. It's kinda interesting that he didn't join Super on me in an effort to save himself.

Man why you're answering yourself?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 15 2016 12:30 GMT
#2232
On June 15 2016 16:36 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 11:26 Tictock wrote:
On June 15 2016 07:52 Superbia wrote:
Idk EC. Tbf the closer this is getting to EoD the more likely I think it is you are scum. x;


This is such a shit post right before EoD.

Spent the whole time trying to get people to move to Scott and then me, then right before the flip "oh, yea I guess you could be scum"


How does any of this make me scum?

Your storyline is that I bus my team mate during mylo d1 super super hard and then hard defend my other team mate during mylo 2 super super hard. How does this fit the narrative for me as scum?

Also I could've switched to scott (both skynx and EC were willing to vote), but didn't. What is my scum agenda TT?

You don't have to defend yourself here, Scott was never getting lynched cuz TT was absent.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 15 2016 12:35 GMT
#2233
On June 15 2016 14:55 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 14:30 scott31337 wrote:
On June 15 2016 08:22 Jealous wrote:
On June 15 2016 08:19 Superbia wrote:
You do realize that if people had actually suddenly switched I probably would've voted back on EC?

I have questions but I'd rather see how Scott responds first.

Scott if you dodge this scenario in the next 24 hours I will raise hell.


Could you be more specific?

Tbh I am drunk so idk what I was thinking but it makes no sense to me right now so disregard this atm.


What did you actually mean by that? It wouldn't make sense holding anything back from your point of view cuz you're confirmed town and prolly dead in couple of hours so try to explain your thought process please.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10314 Posts
June 15 2016 16:03 GMT
#2234
My questions were dumb.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10314 Posts
June 15 2016 16:07 GMT
#2235
Honestly the last thing to do would be to analyze people's behaviors before the flip. Otherwise, my content here is what I'm sticking with and I have nothing more to add to it, really:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/508622-newbie-mafia-xxi?user=Jealous&page=13

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/508622-newbie-mafia-xxi?page=111#2219
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10314 Posts
June 15 2016 16:48 GMT
#2236
Also, if you consider this:

On June 15 2016 08:00 Shapelog wrote:
Final Day 4 vote count




emperorchampion(4): Jealous, Scott31337, Tictock, Skynx
Scott31337(0): Skynx, Emperorchampion
Tictock(1) Jealous, Superbia, Emperorchampion
Skynx(1): Scott31337, Emperorchampion

Not voting (0):



Currently, Emperorchampion, is set to be executed. Day 3 ends in All votes must be casted in the voting thread here: Link.


I find it highly unlikely that TT is scum because his vote guaranteed that EC would get lynched even if the remaining three people (Superbia, Skynx, EC) all voted for another person because of the way the vote rules work.

Although, it is still possible that Skynx made TT shenannying pointless and thus TT just decided to stay on EC.

Similarly, it is possible that Skynx knew that there was no way he could change the outcome of the votes so he went on EC despite them both being scum.

I am going to say the second scenario is more likely.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 15 2016 17:05 GMT
#2237
On June 15 2016 16:36 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 11:26 Tictock wrote:
On June 15 2016 07:52 Superbia wrote:
Idk EC. Tbf the closer this is getting to EoD the more likely I think it is you are scum. x;


This is such a shit post right before EoD.

Spent the whole time trying to get people to move to Scott and then me, then right before the flip "oh, yea I guess you could be scum"


How does any of this make me scum?

Your storyline is that I bus my team mate during mylo d1 super super hard and then hard defend my other team mate during mylo 2 super super hard. How does this fit the narrative for me as scum?

Also I could've switched to scott (both skynx and EC were willing to vote), but didn't. What is my scum agenda TT?


BtDt had a redcheck against him Emp did not.

This aint rocket science.

Also wtf does it even matter if I was here EoD or not? Like how does that make me scum and warrent you voting me?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 15 2016 17:21 GMT
#2238
Going over your play this game the whole thing fits scum agenda except for the stuff about BtDt, and I think that's pretty self explanatory when you see how many people were already on board with Moosy's claim and BtDt's fakeclaim was pretty horseshit (even without the setup logic).

Hell even the fact that you called BtDt a role or scum D1 but never followed that up with any pressure or anything screams of TMI.

Then there is the way that you acted around both town lynches. I quoted your post about "Well QT looks like scum, and meta supports it, but Kush!" from D1 then D2 you went "well Idk if Kush is actually scum, but I'm just gunna stay here anyways". D3 yea you provided setup proof that BtDt's claim wasn't legit, though you also kept asking for another claim to disprove Moosy's. Really though yesturday was pretty telling. I don't recall you once giving an opinion on Emp, but you pushed pretty hard for Scott and then when I wasn't around EoD you started freaking out and pushed me.

Way too much of your play aligns with scum agenda Super, and nothing is helping me see you as town.
I can take that responsibility.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10314 Posts
June 15 2016 18:16 GMT
#2239
So TT, it would be fair to say that you think Superbia nailed BtDt's coffin with his mathematical analysis in order to curry favor with town? Like, he was worried someone else might jump on the inconsistency?

What bothers me about this is that I doubt BtDt made a claim like that without conferring with his scum colleagues, so this would mean that Superbia would have to have told BtDt to claim an impossible role, reveal that it was impossible to curry favor, have BtDt continue to incriminate himself by claiming yet another role, and thus eliminate any chance of scum winning on D3. That just doesn't seem like a smart thing to do.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 15 2016 22:54 GMT
#2240
We will carry on in your memory, Jealous.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
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