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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
June 17 2016 11:44 GMT
#2301
Standby, just to make it official official...
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 11:44 GMT
#2302
Minimal effort.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-17 11:50:22
June 17 2016 11:47 GMT
#2303
Skynx, as Marc Anthony (Mafia Roleblocker), abdicated his post!

Town Victory!

Obs QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/VELYYzCquELE
Mafia QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/xNYbjT56qAw
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 11:48 GMT
#2304
Was obs active?
Minimal effort.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 17 2016 11:49 GMT
#2305
On June 17 2016 20:48 Superbia wrote:
Was obs active?

181 posts there.
Also: where is my shoutout for calling the correct scum team there? :p
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
June 17 2016 11:51 GMT
#2306
Apologies, I am on the floor at work all day today and my counterparts are still asleep in the US :/
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
June 17 2016 11:51 GMT
#2307
So yes scumformation, you get the post game credit indeed for calling out the correct scum team.

When I get a breather here I will comment more.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 17 2016 11:57 GMT
#2308
yay! :D

maybe i'll comment on a few things I noticed later when I am at home.
from the top of my hat:
I liked moosydoosy this game. (wowzers, what happened here?)
Didn't like Envy at first (like D1), but he calmed down a bit and then I liked him a bunch.
The scummers did fairly well, but there were a bunch of posts like D3 that were basically scum claims (will maybe look for them later and explain why, pointed a few of them out in the obs).
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 11:58 GMT
#2309
Naic disfo. kudokos etc
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 11:59 GMT
#2310
On June 17 2016 20:51 NocturneMage wrote:
Apologies, I am on the floor at work all day today and my counterparts are still asleep in the US :/


No worries tyty
Minimal effort.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10285 Posts
June 17 2016 12:43 GMT
#2311
I'm just glad it worked out and I got the last two reads right, after my miserable failure in the first two days.

Cheers to all players, special shout-out to Blazinghand for being a dopecity coach, all of the mods/admins in this great newbie mafia that brought me back into the game, Scott for being my right-hand-man after my claim and never doubting me, Tictock for being a solid townread for me from the start, Superbia with the mathematical wizardry, Moosy for the claim timing and overall interesting play. Greatest apologies to QuickTwist, slightly less so to kush. Props to scum for making this game a sweaty mess; even when I got the two reads that I would later know to be correct (EC + Skynx), I felt dazed and confused.

Thank you for an enjoyable experience, everyone!
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10285 Posts
June 17 2016 12:44 GMT
#2312
Also, thanks for posting the scum QT! I am sure I will learn a lot there.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10285 Posts
June 17 2016 12:56 GMT
#2313
From the mafia QT, quoting Skynx after D1:

"Moosy, super n jealous are nonfactors."

I have great respect for Moosy and Super for crafting this image when in the end they proved to be two of the most pivotal town players. No shame on you Skynx, D1/2 were mad confusing, it felt like the wild wild West. But to have these two players come out in force in D3 and be "non-factors" in D2 is just so pro.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 17 2016 13:25 GMT
#2314
Hmm game was made very hard for maf off of 2 things (imo):
1) not framing btdt. I think this is a good take away from this game for the future
2) mix up with the fake-claim D3

But apart from that, i think I personally made a lot of poor posts in D2/D3

On June 17 2016 21:56 Jealous wrote:
From the mafia QT, quoting Skynx after D1:

"Moosy, super n jealous are nonfactors."

I have great respect for Moosy and Super for crafting this image when in the end they proved to be two of the most pivotal town players. No shame on you Skynx, D1/2 were mad confusing, it felt like the wild wild West. But to have these two players come out in force in D3 and be "non-factors" in D2 is just so pro.


Honestly I stand by this, but I suppose that's part of playing a blue role, you just need to stay alive, especially as cop. Super has no excuse tho , but I suppose made up for it with the D3 math.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10285 Posts
June 17 2016 13:27 GMT
#2315
+ Show Spoiler [Long mafia QT reactions] +
Quote from mafia QT @emperorchampion after D2:

"Oh man, I think that frame jealous and kill super could be a really good play, like game winning but it's a bit of a gamble.

frame skynx seems like the logical options, but I'm almost inclined to go with the yolo call "


This yolo had some serious potential. Respect for EC rising.

"OK so this isn't final, but here are my votes for kill/cockblock if the others show up:
1) Superbia
2) TickTock
3) Jealous

I kind of like super more, but I'm also thinking he might get doctored. I think TT could be dangerous since it seems like he wants both Skynx and beenthere dead. Also I like TT for kill since he is less likely to get doctored I feel. I don't like TT because it could be a huge tell."


This too. As I'm working through the list I can't help but feel "Thank god I voted to lynch EC and stayed on that damn wagon when I did."

Quoting shapelog:

Skynx has gone to another country where QT is blocked. I told for now to commcate via PM, but I prob going to move this to another messaging program.


Damn that sucks!!!

Sorry I had 0 time to do anything today, just catching up.
Skynx you definitely did some scummy things but you're trying hard and that's cool. People have a very hard time lynching an active player over an AFK player, even if the AFK player is less scummy than the active one.
This is a real thing to remember as scum, especially on TL where last minute switch are frequent. Unless you screwed up a looooot, which isn't the case here, you always have a chance to save yourself by being super active near deadline.
One thing you all are not doing are talking to each other though. Unless I missed it I don't think there is a single interaction between any two of you ? It's definitely partner indicative if one of you flips at some point


Strong point from Rels ^ !!

Moving onto the PM exchange between Skynx and EC, I am fully appreciating how different and difficult the game is from Mafia standpoint in this format. I somehow underestimated how much they can coordinate, and how in-depth. Reading their reads is so interesting!

Quoting EC:
Maybe we can push a Moosy / Scott / Jealous team. Jealous will defend himself vigorously in his own crazy way, we can swap in Moosy / Scott / Beentheredonethat as the team. I feel like Super and Tictock could buy that. Just the skeleton of some thoughts, any comments?


This read is so strong.

Quoting BTDT:
It is. He has the potential to go nuts on us.

LOL is that my rep now

Going further into posts, it alarms me how bright of a target I was in D1/D2 while lynching townies and being a PR, lol. I should be more careful maybe?

Quoting EC:
We just need to corrupt one of Jealous and Super and we win.



THAT'S WHERE YOU MESSED UP

Quoting Rles:
I have no idea what's going on with blkcoffee, but a modkill here would help you a lot. It means it's MYLO and town needs 3 correct lynches in a row to win. In that situation you should go hardcore bus (push another teammate as your primary target) all day and fight with him all day. That way even if he flips it's unlikely the surviving scums are lynched the next day.
The important part to get town credit is not voting for a scum but fighting with him / shutting down his argument. Keep that in mind if you chose to go this way.

Pardon me, but you are a slimy scummy fuck and I will never trust you after this.

Quoting EC:
Also we know there is a vet, I'm pretty sure it's either super or jealous. If it is jealous we are in trouble.

Muahahahha

Quoting BTDT:
It's pretty much vanilla now, roles are useless once Moosy is dead. I feel like having been fucked over by the host though. That might very well just be salt, so I will sleep a night over it and See how i feel about the issue tomorrow.

Sorry mate

Quoting Rels:
/m142 I will do a better post on what you can do tomorrow 'cause I'm pretty tired right now. But yeah anything to look like you're scumhunting is good. Rereading the dead scum's filter to find "partenrs" might be a good idea. Whatever you find you should present it in a way that is pushing SKynx as your primary target. There is very little chance he isn't lynched today

I guess finding "partners" was a good idea for town as well, since I nailed it


Quoting Rels:
bro it's entirely possible something crazy happens between now and the deadline. It's only an "IF", but if you have the time you should try to post things and be townie by getting emotional little by little because remember: YOU are town, if you're mislynched the game is lost. So fight and become more and more angry and start screaming with caps when there is little time left, like 15-30 minutes before the deadline, and the lynch might go to someone else in the chaos.
Or maybe not, but it worth to try

Now I know what to look for >;D

"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 13:29 GMT
#2316
I'm mostly an on-the-spot reader and it's kind of hard when there are so many afks/lurkers.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 17 2016 13:30 GMT
#2317
And I can't be around for EoD. z_z
Minimal effort.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10285 Posts
June 17 2016 13:33 GMT
#2318
Overall I'd have to say I am wow'ed by scum's play besides the pivotal errors that EC mentioned. I feel like scum played better than town, with the exception of Moosy and Superbia. TT had me mighty scared for a while during this final day, even after I put in my utmost effort to convince him that Superbia was town. TT, you were being too damn paranoid!! I'm glad I got through to you eventually.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 17 2016 13:35 GMT
#2319
Haha, I forgot about:

"Oh man, I think that frame jealous and kill super could be a really good play, like game winning but it's a bit of a gamble.

frame skynx seems like the logical options, but I'm almost inclined to go with the yolo call "

Yeah in retrospect framing Jealous and killing super probably would have won the game
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 17 2016 13:37 GMT
#2320
But I think that the kill on Tumble was the best call at the time
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