EPTasí que...
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translation: gonna try something new...i'll write all my posts in spanish first (probably in spoilers) to improve and to reduce the amount of posts in the thread
A normal game just for JAT <3
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así que... /in translation: gonna try something new...i'll write all my posts in spanish first (probably in spoilers) to improve and to reduce the amount of posts in the thread | ||
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On April 09 2016 05:23 Rels wrote: C est difficile de parler français :D no, no es | ||
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 claro que sí | ||
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On April 09 2016 05:36 Shapelog wrote: No sé si tú usted está serio o no + Show Spoiler + I think that is how you say it in Spanish. been awhile ummmm lol no but you'd be understood en serio? <- seriously? ^^ | ||
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On April 13 2016 01:22 justanothertownie wrote: Your eloquence won't save you, scoundrel. ??? + Show Spoiler + Si no se puede usar corectamente el idioma formal, no se debe usarlo. If you can't use formal language correctly, you shouldn't use it at all. | ||
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On April 13 2016 05:57 Fecalfeast wrote: bonjour <3 | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:12 justanothertownie wrote: 1) Once you are as good at speaking my language as I am at yours we can continue talking about this. 2) I don't even get what you think is wrong about my statement. + Show Spoiler + No estoy hablando a tí xP Not talking to you. | ||
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estaba hablando sobre la "eloquencia" de jas. no estaba de acuerdo con tu adjetivo. no estaba diciendo que no puedes hablar ingles. lol i was talking about you calling that monstrosity eloquence. disagreeing with your adjective not saying you can't speak english | ||
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GB: Depende, ¿te gusta la rica oscuridad de chocolate? ¿Y dónde está el portugués? Oneg: siempre me odias ;o; Gum: o.0 hay mucha de tantas pocas palabras alla lol GB: Depends, do you like the delicious darkness of chocolate? And where's the Portuguese? Oneg: You always hate me ;o; Gum: o.0 So much from so few words lol | ||
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I want to be one of the cool kids, too! Onegu and I have a one-sided rivalry. It's delicious He votes. I ignore him unless he gets good.Onegu always votes me. GB generally tries to get my attention and get me to read him when he's town, but I don't actually think that one post is enough to townread him for. Essentially I don't think it actually has anything to do with Onegu's vote. Lexy likes chocolate. It depends on the day for me ^^ + Show Spoiler + Me gusta ser uno de los chicos de moda también. Onegu y yo tenemos una rivaldad unilateral. ¡Es rica! Vota. A él le ignoro a menos que se vuelve bueno. Onegu siempre me vota. Generalmente GB atenta captar mi atención y me provoca decidir en su alineamiento cuando es del pueblo, pero de veras no pienso que es suficiente para decir: es del pueblo. Es decir que no creo que fuera una reacción al voto de Onegu. A Lexy le gusta el chocolate. Para mí depende del día. | ||
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Si sirve de algo, problamente no votaré Gumshoe este ciclo, No estaba segura cuando vi su explicación sobre Onegu, pero me gusta su dirrección de inquisitar. Probably won't vote gumshoe today for what it's worth. I wasn't sure when I saw the explication for the Onegu read, but I like his line of questioning. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Cállate. Traducir es díficil: explicación. | ||
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Well, normally I just talk in one :/ not translate back and forth. Quiet thread is quiet. + Show Spoiler + Pues, normalmente sólo hablo uno u otro, no traduzco entre los dos. El foro callado es callado. | ||
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(and yeah, hard to say before the game really gets started, but I think GB is probably town here, too. i have a pretty good record when it comes to reading him which is why his deliberately getting my attention is generally a sign that he's town) + Show Spoiler + De veras, "pueblo" no se traduce a ninguna palabra en inglés, pero pienso que lo captura el espíritu de la gente común contra la élite que es el juego de mafia. Y, sí, es difícil estar segura antes de que empiece el juego, pero pienso que GB es probablemente parte del pueblo, también. Tengo un buen récord de identificar su alineamiento, lo cual es porque su atento a obtener mi atencíon es generalmente un indicio que es del pueblo. | ||
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Estoy de acuerdo con JAT. Para mí es un poco extraño en el sentido que expecto tener pensamientos cercanos a los del Palmar en un juego normal, pero no hubo mucho de interés en el foro hasta eso punto, así que no se resuelta en ningún tipo de decisión sobre su alineamiento. No es tan extraño para comentar Palmar en sólo una persona, particularmente con esta escasez de información. El hecho que JAS se conocen a JAT pero no a Palmar es...extraño. Bien extraño. En otras noticias, hoy no votaré rels tampoco. Pero no creo que gumshoe es la más interesante cosa en el foro ^^ Ni estoy de acuerdo que su meta para onegu es tán fuerte; tengo un método para determinar su alineamiento pero es más de su manera de jugar y no de su comportamiento. Estar "feliz" es demaciado sencillo. I agree with Jat. In a normal game I expect to see some of my thoughts reflected in Palmar's posts normally, so in that sense I find it a little strange, but really not much has gone in the thread so it doesn't really give me a strong feel for his alignment. Palmar just commenting on one person isn't really that odd, especially with so little information. The fact that Jas knows Jat but not Palmar is really very strange. In other news, not gonna vote Rels today ^^ I really don't think that gumshoe is the most interesting thing in the thread, though, and I also don't think your meta read on Onegu is very reliable. My method for reading him has more to do with how he plays than his attitude. Just being "happy" is over-simplistic. | ||
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El punto es que no es un indicio de su alineamiento. Por supuesto puede hacerlo como ambos. @.@ The point is it's NAI. Of course he can do it as both alignments @.@ | ||
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On April 15 2016 22:55 justanothertownie wrote: It's not so one-sided and you don't really seem to ignore him since apparently his antics were enough for you to make this post with a selfvote. I don't see the point of this post. This seems extremely premature too. + Show Spoiler + Posiblemente. ¿No es bueno que podemos cambiar nuestra opiniones? (Estaba respondiendo a los otros votos pero puedo entender la confusión Possibly. Isn't it good that we can change our opinions? (I was responding to the other "votes" but I can understand the confusion.) | ||
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On April 15 2016 22:58 Rels wrote: It's an small indicator. Onegu likes being scum and does not like being town. Him being all excited is a little bit weird if he's town. + Show Spoiler + No es 100% correcto. Hay otras circunstancias y no se sirve para describirlos...ya es bastate temprano para determinar si está feliz o no. That's not 100% correct. There are other circumstances that are not worth discussing...and it's really too early to determine if he's actually happy or not regardless. | ||
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On April 15 2016 23:02 justanothertownie wrote: Yes! That's really great. But why give it if you don't believe in it? Or are you posting just to post? + Show Spoiler + No es tan fuerte pero lo creo a este punto. Obviamente es basado en sus otras entradas y no sólo en eso. It's not strong but I believe it as of this moment. Obviously it's based on his other posts as well. | ||
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On April 15 2016 23:04 justanothertownie wrote: Well, you can't go "this is really strange, how can gumshoe ever do this?!" and then say "I know he does this as town but this means he will do it as mafia also so it is scummy!". It doesn't make sense. + Show Spoiler + No es un ningun problema si Rels quiere respuestas, JAT lol. Lol, Jat, Rels wanting answers isn't a problem. | ||
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No puedo decidir si me gusta matar SL o no...ayúdame ;o; El espacio entre su primera entrada y las otras era tan larga pero no sé como interpretar su lista de deseos sobre los jugadores :/ I can't decide whether or not I want to lynch SL...help me ;o; The time between his first post and the rest was pretty long but I don't know how to interpret that list of who he does and doesn't want to play with :/ | ||
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On April 15 2016 23:13 Rels wrote: gumshoe you shut the fuck up plz ??? | ||
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On April 15 2016 23:18 justanothertownie wrote: Based on what he did so far I have no idea why you would want to lynch him. If you don't know how to interpret the post then why would you lynch him for it? + Show Spoiler + Lol le mataría por la falta de interés inmediatamente después de su entrada...pero el listo es tan extraño entonces quizás no. Es SL y es capaz de hacer casi todo pero ya es bien extraño para un mafioso hacer cosas así. Lol, I would have lynched him for the lack of interest immediately after his entrance...but the list is really strange so maybe not. It's SL and he's capable of doing practically anything but it's still pretty strange for mafia to do things like that. | ||
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On April 15 2016 23:31 Rels wrote: Something like that. Alright gumshoe can you expand on your GB's townread ? I think your "1 of the 4 people caring about the game" thing is bullshit because: - it was so close to the start of the game, so if he's posting ofc he's going to be one of the only posters, regardless of his alignment - he made only 1 serious post at that point, asking about your thoughts on him + Show Spoiler + Jat tiene razon sobre el juego anterior. Quizás es vale la pena leerlo. Jat's right about the last game. It's probably worth it to read it. | ||
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On April 15 2016 23:44 Rels wrote: rsoul who would you lynch if the deadline was right now ? + Show Spoiler + No tengo ningun idea lol >< Tengo unos jugadores a quienes no me gusta matar pero eso es todo. -gum -rels -gb (la obsesión con algo que gum ya ha explicado es meh pero en balance...) No clue lol >< I have a few players who I don't want to lynch but that's all. -gum -rels -gb (his obsession with something that gum's already explained is meh but on balance...) | ||
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On April 16 2016 00:24 Palmar wrote: Like in general I'm thinking along these lines: jat is probably town gumshoe might be town rels is meh~~ sicklucker is very meh (the screw off thing felt super ungenuine, but idk, maybe he's just asshole) rsoultin is probably mafia the smurf guy is also weird, ie, he's an asshole who is trying to be someone he clearly is now. I think i'll ignore him and hope he turns up dead after the night. + Show Spoiler +  no soy. iría bueno si tuviera otro mafioso para poder matarnos a mafiosos. o más explicación para sus opiniones, eso también. I'm not. Would be good if you had another scum so we could actually lynch scum. Or more reasoning for your reads, that too. | ||
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Podría matar a JAS solo porque está enfocando en su papel de smurf más que en encontrando los mafiosos. Could lynch JAS if only because he's focusing on his smurf role more than finding mafia. | ||
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-gum -rels -palmar (for probably bad reasons) Prob won't lynch -jat ??? -gb (tunnel vision) -sl -ows (maybe it's just been awhile since i've rolled town, but do his reads seem to come more easy and with less thought than normal? getting that impression) Kinda want to lynch for meh reasons -JAS -super (forgot about him) might've forgot someone; didn't bother to count. could spanish this but...it's just a mostly feels-based list post so meh | ||
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On April 16 2016 02:57 Tumblewood wrote: rsoul, why do you townread rels after just posting disagreements/question marks in response to him? + Show Spoiler + porque normalmente no estamos de acuerdo...él enfoca en el lógico y yo en otras cosas porque la mayoría de los jugadores no son lógicos. esto no es decir que rels no es del pueblo. creo que es del pueblo porque está preguntando en direcciones diferentes, probablamente para establecer sus opiniones sobre lo más jugadores posible Because we usually don't agree...he focuses on logic while I focus on other things because most players aren't logical. This isn't to say that rels isn't town. I believe he is because he's probing in different directions, which is probably to develop reads on as many players as possible. | ||
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On April 16 2016 03:22 Fazers wrote: Day 1 usually seems where users point fingers at one another, and for what reason? I think we should wait for a Day 1 post before coming to a conclusion..it's kind of hard to tell who is mafia or not at this point. Just my two cents.. + Show Spoiler + ¿De qué estás hablando? What are you talking about? | ||
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¿Sabes que necesitamos matarle a alguien, no? Estámos atentado decidir a quien vamos a matar o.0 You do know that we have to lynch someone, right? We're trying to decide who to lynch o.0 | ||
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Yo creo que es nuevo. Es uno de los jugadores de Starcraft. De hecho, lo jugó con Lexy recientamente. I think he's new. He's one of the starcraft players. Actually, he played it with Lex just recently. | ||
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On April 16 2016 04:26 Palmar wrote: Lynch rsoultin Hey, Palmar...seriously, dude...I mean if you're mafia and I'm just a chump you can go ahead and ignore this but otherwise I'd really appreciate knowing what's so apparently awful about how I'm playing that all you can do is say lynch rsoultin. Like...I mean, yeah, I'm having trouble finding who I want to lynch that's probably pretty obvious, but considering the only person you can be bothered to talk about is town you're doing no better. If it's a me just being a shitter I'd like to know that though. I really don't think I'm actually playing that bad given the circumstances :/ | ||
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On April 16 2016 04:57 Onegu wrote: This She forgot me in her list post. Means she is scum 100000000% Also people saying they can meta read me are scum. Gumshoe. Rels, Rsoultin. THere is your team. Thank you well played onegu. done it before? but sure i like how all your scumreads are my townreads @.@ | ||
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On April 16 2016 05:04 Fazers wrote: Totally forgot that Day 1 we have to lynch. OK - understood this was a misunderstanding on my part. Other than that I understand how this game works. Thanks for clarifying! And yes I am a ex-BW / Melee player that's great? but now this would be the part where you try to find who you want to lynch (wouldn't mind chatting about BW but the most i know about it is what i've gleaned from watching art play, so guess we'll just have to mafia lol >>) | ||
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okay i guess i'll just ignore you until/unless i come to think you're scum. thanks for playing | ||
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On April 16 2016 08:28 sicklucker wrote: Holy shit I want to play bw I havent played in like 3 years. call art he says he could beat you with his hands tied behind his back >> also, if this is your town game, i've just cracked the sl code...BEWARE! (would be super cool lol ^^) i might go back to spanish tomorrow...maybe...too lazy...heh | ||
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On April 16 2016 09:45 sicklucker wrote: This is my town game trying to lower my meta so I can win games as mafia I wouldnt be too exited o.0 lower your meta? | ||
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On April 16 2016 09:43 rsoultin wrote: he says he could beat you with his hands tied behind his back >> also, if this is your town game, i've just cracked the sl code...BEWARE! (would be super cool lol ^^) i might go back to spanish tomorrow...maybe...too lazy...heh tch nvm i misremembered your last scumgame :/ no super secret awesome ways of reading sl for me | ||
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On April 16 2016 10:03 sicklucker wrote: I just installed broodwar where is artanis I demand blood lol you may have to wait a day, it's past 3 and he just left to drive his family to the airport...he'll be back online afterward but i doubt he'll be in any shape to play ^^ | ||
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i think i favor lynching superbia/fazer @fazer...if you're just new town, dude, let me help you out. you're probably not going to find anything that makes you think someone is super scum, especially if you've never played with any of us before. but if you don't talk about what you think, who might be scum, etc. we have no way of reading you. posting your thoughts/reads is actually more important for us figuring out your alignment than anything else slight preference for superbia because i can see fazer just not knowing what to do in his first game. obviously this could come from first-time scum just as easily but yeah...superbia's drive-by not gonna post bit seems like it could come from burn-out...at the very least unless he's just not gonna be back for deadline there's no need to even post the excuse in the first place | ||
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On April 16 2016 12:40 sicklucker wrote: I dont lynch new players day one its bad etiquette lynching superbia so that's not a problem ^^ unless you have an argument for onegu that isn't just policy? i think this is an okay lynch at the very least we need to actually start discussing one cause we can't keep pretending that deadline will never come if we just ignore the game -_- | ||
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On April 16 2016 13:39 Tumblewood wrote: And by that I mean your only evidence is Superbia saying "Hey I'm not going to be here" and then not being here. Attributing that to scum burnout is a huge conclusion-leap. lol you're not wrong. it's mostly an i don't really have anything better thing, which is kinda given away by the "don't know who's scum" comment like the people i'm REALLY okay with are rels gum you and could be town so don't really want to lynch are jat jas sl palmar which leaves me with everyone else. i want to see more from gb and onegu cause i feel like given time i can suss them out, though i'm feeling worse about gb than onegu just cause i know one of his biggest problems as scum is he just can't be nearly as reactive as he is as town (the tunnel thing he can kinda do as both, but generally when he's town he still is noticing and commenting on other things, so the gum focus + no comments after gum answered the question he'd already answered doesn't sit well with me) i just think that maybe it's a no time and his disappearance from the thread could have been coincidental fazer could just be new and i'm hoping he'll respond to my comment to him and give us more to read him by ows being here is good ^^ maybe he can help me by giving me a reason not to lynch him lol if he's town so yeaaah now you see how i ended up where i am. it's not so much a SUPER IS SCUM! read...rather more a lots of people are kinda townie or i'd like more time on so i guess he's the best lynch for now from my perspective obv he could just be busy. at the very least though i'm fairly confident that as long as he has time he can spew himself more townie to me than the ?s so not really concerned about being wrong here | ||
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On April 16 2016 13:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Superbia's filter is pretty empty and I wouldn't mind lynching him today. I'm not sure if he's the type of player to be affected by scum burnout but that does nothing to erase the fact that he's done nothing and is a perfectly acceptable day 1 lynch anyway. Fazer is also up there. Too many times have I seen newbie scum do things like act all confused and refuse to do anything and have everyone give them a pass. Rsoultin seems to be a bad lynch simply because her head is in the right place wrt trying to push the thread in a proper direction. More on the way. ninja'd without prodding, nice lol >< i may go to bed before you finish though | ||
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On April 16 2016 14:02 sicklucker wrote: can we lynch them both? oh wait we can its called a vigalanty heh ^^ idk like...sometimes shitter onegu is scum onegu but it's just so often town onegu that i'm just not feeling it right now | ||
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On April 16 2016 14:09 sicklucker wrote: but even when it is town onegu we should probably lynch him. Its a decent gamble roll the dice! -shrugs- not to me? i don't ascribe to the rayn school of lynch anyone bad cause they'd just be a hindrance anyway lol | ||
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On April 16 2016 14:11 Tumblewood wrote: where I'm at right now: null most people don't want to lynch gumshoe because innocent town rels because actually trying ows because actually trying palmar because in Devil I lynched him day 1 and I never got to play with him could lynch today rsoul because all her answers are kind of meh superbia because AFK; prefer vig shot i really can't help but be amused that our reads line up so closely (with the exception of ows obv but i was liking his recent activity anyway), and we even both want to lynch the same person, but somehow my answers are meh i don't think it makes you scum even though maybe it should concern me that you're fine lynching both the talked about people, cause i've liked your previous posting, but still lol >< i mean, when are we gonna stop holding rsoul to higher standards than we hold ourselves? | ||
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On April 16 2016 14:17 sicklucker wrote: that vote count is so wrong . palmar and someone else maybe certainly voted rstoulin lol there's a vote thread goober ^^ | ||
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On April 16 2016 14:21 Tumblewood wrote: pls, I hold everyone + Show Spoiler + except LS and Slam My scum meter for you is, when I ask you a question, if your answer is kinda disappointing but not really scummy, you're probably scum The problem with this is I haven't played with town rsoul\ Why do you like my previous posting, though, enough to outweigh that thing you didn't like? heh, the girl who always disappoints the tumble ^^ bueno, it's nothing specific. it's just the little things you picked at with regards to my read on rels and the question on fazer and things like that...inquisitive and not terribly mainstream even if some of your very first posts were kinda parroting some of the things already said in the thread | ||
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On April 16 2016 14:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Oh nevermind, I think you did that already. i'm expected to be superwoman it's okay...i'm coming to terms with it and am trying to take it as a compliment rather than get frustrated at it lol >< you seeing anything i'm not? | ||
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On April 16 2016 14:33 Tumblewood wrote: I did for rsoul, too, but: I look at her answers to my questions, and my response is a disappointed "oh", I can't make a scum case from that answer, but I can't make a town case either. That's my rsoul meta read. Spooky, huh? well, i mean, i can't really blame you if you've never played town with me or anything, nor can i blame you for this game when i'm not finding much and it's still d1 when all the tone and meta reads tend to hold center stage but...you know just as an aside, a "meta" read on a player you've never played town with is probably not going to be very accurate -shrugs- | ||
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On April 16 2016 14:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote: There's only like 18 pages, so probably not. heh our reads are eerily similar at the moment tbh...the main reason it's not making me twitch is i really, really don't see why you'd choose me to just "have" the same reads as as scum...that would be pretty odd lol | ||
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On April 16 2016 14:57 Tumblewood wrote: I read gaiden, that's only like six months ago Perhaps what I'm saying is that I expect rsoul to be more... disagreeable? That's the distinguishing factor I see between her town and scum games. Going to sleep soon so if you have any questions ask now. -squints at- dude i'm just not scum, and i don't have cookie cutter games. i can be abrasive as scum very easily, and agreeable or lost as town just as easily. but regardless, there are two very good reasons you shouldn't be sitting there applying meta reads to me 1. you haven't played in the games you're citing and therefore have no clue about context (plus let's just be honest probably went in there with a pre-conceived bias since you already think i'm scum based on never having played with me as town) and 2. you're wrong and annoying me and should stop cause this is wasting time when i'm literally one of the only people in the thread who even seems interested in trying to get town organized enough to have a shot in hell at actually lynching scum this phase blah -_- it would be super nice if only scum would scumread me lol >< | ||
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On April 16 2016 21:48 Palmar wrote: rsoultin is mafia because she has given way too many reads that sound way too confident. Let's murder her. lol in which iteration of your anti-rsoul crusade did your reason change to this? couldn't have been the first, second or third times ^^ @super...why does gb being "meh" make me less "meh" and what exactly does "meh" even mean to you? | ||
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On April 16 2016 22:05 Superbia wrote: Mehfia. Also because GB and Obi are in your scum listy and I'm leaning the same way. -squints- that still doesn't explain what you mean by meh, super | ||
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but i just don't see the long-term scum strategy in a pretty awful tunnel push based on clouds and rainbows and unicorns if i do get mislynched here, coupled with the dickish behavior toward half the thread unless he wants to get lynched and is engaging in a spectacular form of scum suicide that takes out a strong town player in the process, i just really think he's town being dumb. like i kinda want to hedge cause fuck him if he's scum and manages to get away with mislynching me, but yeah...i also kinda want to think something different cause i'd love to rip into him but i just don't think he's mafia :/ which sucks. lol anyway...not feeling any better about super so i guess that's still where i want to be. would be nice if like...the town actually played this game. even though it doesn't really seem like scum's playing either hallloooooooo failbots where are you? | ||
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- generally inactive (mostly NAI with a slight lean toward scum given he just came off a game as 3p) - lack of meaningful contribution when he's here - disappearing the moment he gets questioned after giving a dismissive answer (<- could be coincidence but i kinda doubt it) - the post palmar quoted (so...while there's nothing that says a player can't think that another having the same reads as you might make them more town, saying i might be okay for that but then voting me anyway means he at least doesn't believe it very much, and i personally find it hard to believe that after he just played with me in storm where i bussed pretty much my entire scum team that he actually thinks this would have any bearing on my alignment anyway. it doesn't line up) @super...meh=mehfia doesn't really cut it. tw explained what he meant and i'd like you to explain as well, cause much as i've been pressured from the start of the game again (yay! \o/ so much fun) it seems like a convenient survivalist piggy-back to me. believe it or not i'd rather lynch mafia today than a town super playing badly so help me out here if you're town ^^ otherwise feel free to stay afk lol also getting more and more okay with lynching gb as time goes on ^^ | ||
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hardly ^^ you know that if you're town this game and my reads end up being mostly right i'm going to expect you to be less of a dick in the future and recognize that i can actually have decent reads without it being tmi, right? it's like you think i'm a complete scrub or something | ||
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On April 17 2016 01:51 GlowingBear wrote: Hi gais, I'm here lovely. now get to making me not want to lynch you <3 | ||
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On April 17 2016 02:22 justanothertownie wrote: Tumble makes a decent point about rsoul somewhat lacking emotion just before and the result is this unwarranted attack.Not the biggest fan. it's kinda amazing how long some of you have played with me and yet you still can't figure out really simple things. i don't treat scumreads and townreads the same, but some newbie even with good intentions sitting there trying to build a meta-read off 6-month old towngames is ridiculous i doubt you'd appreciate it either | ||
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On April 17 2016 02:40 justanothertownie wrote: I have no idea what you think is ridiculous about it. He is doing work and if you want to do it right you need to look at older games. Especially if you don't have your own experience with the other player. seriously jat? i'm not saying he's scum. get off my ass also, tumble, read. of course palmar's case isn't right. i'm town. it's by definition wrong. that doesn't mean i have to think he's scum for it any more than i have to think you're scum when you're wrong. how is this so hard to understand? | ||
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On April 17 2016 02:44 justanothertownie wrote: I did not say you were calling him scum. Your reaction is unwarranted especially if you think he is town. it probably is. yet i'm not wrong in saying until you know how to meta it's probably a bad idea to go through old games and try to meta, especially with pre-conceived notions can you honestly say i am? and i'm sorry that i'm getting irritated when palmar's sitting there calling me scum all d1 and sniping and i've got newbies trying to meta and failing and everyone's saying i'm playing like shit when from my perspective i'm one of the only people trying at all but no keep telling me i shouldn't be annoyed that's fine ^^ shoo | ||
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pues, actually, tumble, why did you want me to commit on fazer? like why, specifically, did you want me to commit on an obviously nai post from a brand new player? | ||
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On April 17 2016 04:41 Rels wrote: I'm OK to lynch: Tumble for entering the thread late with a non believable excuse and being obsessed with rsoul, which would be the perfect lynch for mafia. Superbia for being so his spree of posting reads with no explanation and not pushing anything. I think town!Superbia is more focused than that, like he was in his Palmar post actually, but the reasonning in his Palmar post is bad. Maybe GB for faking activity when actually he is useless, needs to read his filter. Maybe JAS for kinda the same thing, needs to read his filter. These needs to be vigd: Frizer Onegu I don't townread rsoul but I don't understand why she is scum. well let's see cause i'm me -onegu cause i have too many "confident" reads and tmi on his alignment -palmar (nvm this couldn't be part of his initial read) cause i'm meh and not emotional enough according to meta from games he's never played in -tumble ^^ how well did i do? more seriously, though, the honest truth is, and please repeat after me: "we are scrubs who don't know how to read rsoultin so we're just gonna call her scum for bs and go oops well who can read her anyway when she flips town" | ||
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On April 17 2016 04:45 Rels wrote: What changed with Superbia ? well it's not really a townread tbh more of a i'm not sure what to make of his push on palmar read. i can see him believing what he's saying about palmar, even though i've seen palmar do this before as town (toad, wave in noir, etc) so know he's not necessarily right | ||
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On April 17 2016 04:49 rsoultin wrote: well it's not really a townread tbh more of a i'm not sure what to make of his push on palmar read. i can see him believing what he's saying about palmar, even though i've seen palmar do this before as town (toad, wave in noir, etc) so know he's not necessarily right actually what that should say is his case is wrong but his read could be right | ||
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On April 17 2016 04:52 Rels wrote: OK. I get what you mean, it was the only post that looked townie. But he should know Palmar can do that, and even if not it was repeated several times in thread that it is NAI, so it's hard to believe he missed the info. yeah i understand that but i'm not sure what he stands to gain from pushing off-wagon onto palmar who no one seems to want to lynch anyway. i mean obviously the argument could be made that it "looks" less like it could come from scum, or maybe they're distancing, but we've got so many underpeforming mostly afk people in the thread plus he was already pushing a lynch on me and i know i'm town even if the rest of y'all don't...seems like an odd target for scum to set their sites on when they're the leading lynch is all | ||
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On April 17 2016 01:51 GlowingBear wrote: Hi gais, I'm here ^ i think i may just want to lynch this guy tbh | ||
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On April 17 2016 05:01 justanothertownie wrote: You think Palmar is town If thatis the case then superbias is the most opportunistic thing that happened in a while. It is the most mafia agenda indicative thing in the whole thread. And you don't know about lynching because of exactly this? There wasn't any real resistance until I stopped it either. What the hell?! i was talking about scum motivation. thread atmosphere was obviously against a palmar lynch, even before you went all knight in shining armor. you really think palmar was really ever in danger of being lynched here? lol >< by superbia of all people, king of the non-posts? more importantly, what do you think of gb? | ||
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On April 17 2016 05:05 Palmar wrote: My heart says kill rsoultin my brain says kill superbia follow your heart! a second toad incident would be hilarious i'd actually argue that palmar is anything but afk this phase, for the record | ||
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On April 17 2016 05:05 justanothertownie wrote: Don't worry. Noone was expecting much. lol so mean >< | ||
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On April 17 2016 05:07 Tumblewood wrote: I didn't think you actually thought that was alignment indicative, so your "OK to lynch him" felt off. Cleared it up though. ...lol wow >< just wow okay yeah we can lynch tumble, or perhaps you'd like to try again and explain how you can see into the future and knew that i would later say i was okay with lynching fazer when you wrote this question | ||
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tumble just said he wanted to force me to take a stance on someone based on a post i HADN'T EVEN POSTED YET | ||
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On April 17 2016 05:07 Tumblewood wrote: I didn't think you actually thought that was alignment indicative, so your "OK to lynch him" felt off. Cleared it up though. please please please show me this post about being okay to lynch him. i really want to see it | ||
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On April 16 2016 03:22 Fazers wrote: Day 1 usually seems where users point fingers at one another, and for what reason? I think we should wait for a Day 1 post before coming to a conclusion..it's kind of hard to tell who is mafia or not at this point. Just my two cents.. starting from this post where fazers first enters the thread where is it tumble? is it hiding in a comma somewhere? | ||
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On April 17 2016 05:10 rsoultin wrote: ...lol wow >< just wow okay yeah we can lynch tumble, or perhaps you'd like to try again and explain how you can see into the future and knew that i would later say i was okay with lynching fazer when you wrote this question | ||
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On April 17 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote: "Oh but Tumblewood you didn't say that last part earlier." "Scum scum scum for changing his reasons on rsoul." You should probably answer the actual question where you made up a reason for pushing me on something. The sarcasm just makes you look like you have no defense. | ||
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On April 17 2016 06:26 Palmar wrote: I don't really think tumblewood will flip scum but I neither know what the case against him is not do I have a particularly strong defense for him. I just don't think the few posts I've read sound like a mafia he said that he posted the question about fazer to force me to take a stance on him when fazer had only just posted his first post i asked him why he specifically wanted me to take a stance on something like that and he invented a reason based on posts i hadn't even made yet it's not impossible that it could come from town but i really doubt it @TW...just laying down a bunch of reads without reasoning and continually saying i'm scum when i'm not isn't exactly helping but in the off chance you're town i don't mind answering questions | ||
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On April 17 2016 06:27 Tumblewood wrote: rsoul and palmar why haven't you told me to stop squirming protip: if you plan on keeping me alive for now but lynching me later please lynch me today and don't waste time lol why should i care if you squirm? if you're town you might convince me and if you're scum it's just highly gratifying now what were these so-called important questions? | ||
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On April 17 2016 06:31 Tumblewood wrote: pls squirming has never convinced anyone in the history of forever i get that by the end of today i will have a 6 page filter but i assure you there are some questions in there yeah if they're such burning questions you should be able to just ask them again. there's no reason to be obstructionist here | ||
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On April 17 2016 05:47 Tumblewood wrote: fazers you voted me why did you vote me palmar why are you voting superbia rsoul and ows when did you change from TR to SR + Show Spoiler + actually did ows actually SR me? is he even here? this is the only question i can even find in your filter directed at me and should be immensely obvious...and the reason i asked you why you wanted me specifically to give a hard read on fazers' first post was because it's an awfully odd thing to say unless you thought his post was significant somehow which obviously you couldn't have if you completely "forgot" why you did it in the first place, or are you trying to sell that you're that forgetful? | ||
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On April 17 2016 06:36 Tumblewood wrote: i could switch to superbia to save myself but tbh that would probably lead to me getting lynched tomorrow anyway if rayn is in the obs qt i hope i'm driving him insane right now he'd probably be caps locking for your lynch right now tbh lol this is the sort of thing that he thrives on, people saying shit that they can't possibly believe now, what questions have i missed from you? | ||
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On April 17 2016 06:40 Tumblewood wrote: not trying to sell shit. it's obvious i'm doing my fair share of bsing this game but it's only selling it if i'm trying to say i do that frequently as town, and i usually don't do it as either alignment. after today i'm going to try to not bs because that makes it much harder to evaluate people when they can bs and get away with it do you need extra reasons to scumread me or what ??? nope i just have the one: you making up shit when questioned on a statement that i found weird in the first place i mean obviously if you're town here you fucked up hard and shouldn't bs, but most townies don't because there's no reason to. like seriously why would you find the need to make up reasons for saying things? | ||
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On April 17 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote: because it looks bad to not have a reason and i didn't want to dig up some post from five pages ago to defend myself for the record i wasn't totally lying just wrong + Show Spoiler + as if that means anything okay so let's play a game here you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them | ||
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On April 17 2016 06:44 justanothertownie wrote: No, it's not everyone who is wrong. It is you. Your case is dogshit and if Palmar is mafia then your points are not why. +1 without the nasty the case doesn't make palmar mafia. he may be mafia but yeah, not for that i think it was hammertime. toad. that's probably all that needs to be said here | ||
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On April 17 2016 06:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If he's actually mafia he did a really good job of hitting all my buttons. eh i'm not as certain as before but seriously that's not just bad townplay it's...i don't even know what it is why did you say this? oh let me make up a reason cause if i don't have one you'll scumread me! ... i just don't see that coming from town. | ||
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On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote: jat is town jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one) palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now eh yeah that didn't help me thanks though | ||
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On April 17 2016 06:53 Tumblewood wrote: jashape is also town though rsoul why gb of all people, why not onegu or sl? because gb's behavior is actually scum indicative for him while onegu and sl are either hard to read or generally just shit anyway so are firmly in the nullish zone | ||
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but yeah back to the movie...will dive back in later | ||
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On April 17 2016 09:50 Tumblewood wrote: Why did you ignore all those people claiming scum The Superbia wagon (and then the GB wagon) both overtook mine and you didn't bat an eye. you know tw if this is actually your town game you really need to reconsider how you approach things. my thought process is exceedingly clear around the lynch and this just looks like more petty picking at nothing not to mention you know not making up shit about your earlier posts | ||
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On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote: jat is town jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one) palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now @tumble...super maybe scum=no vote as alternate wagon...gb exactly null=vote as alternate wagon care to explain? | ||
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palmar's EoD actually looks pretty decent to me after a review of his filter ^ this from the guy who doesn't know what to do yada yada is just meh. looks overdone to me tbh. fazers, we don't get hints. some sites might. we don't. if i'm around long enough + Show Spoiler + and i urge those of you still in the game to do so if i'm not it's not about being right. i've said this several times to you. it's about giving us something to read you by. i'd like your best guesses at alignments and why before the night is over bueno...that's it for tonight i think. reads post later after some more digging | ||
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On April 18 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote: I was afraid of voting Superbia and him flipping green (not as a likelihood thing, but if he did I forecast my own mislynch for the next day). GB lynch happened at a point where several more townies had come out and defended me and attacked Superbia, so it felt, in a way, less risky. -squints at- i don't really understand this explanation what is the difference between you being lynched d1 or d2? until gb ninja-voted he was prob not getting lynched over super, yet you were still voting yourself because you were worried you'd be lynched d2 if super flipped town? so d1 is okay but not d2? explain the bolded like i'm 5. what is the significance of when the gb lynch happened and how was that less risky? | ||
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On April 18 2016 03:28 Onegu wrote: You all jumped on him for this post. But this is a genuine scumslip. He tries to correct himself in the next post when he realized what he did but yeah scumslip. lol well i mean...posting my reads closer to EoN but it's interesting you focused on that ^^ | ||
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On April 18 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote: Because at that point it was clear that voting a counterwagon was the difference between dying and surviving instead of dying d1 and dying d2. Of course, it turned out GB would have died without my help, but it still seemed up in the air at the time. why? | ||
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On April 18 2016 05:12 Tumblewood wrote: when superbia was the counterwagon i thought i would for sure be lynched at some point when gb was the counterwagon it became apparent that maybe i wouldn't be lynched okay, so honestly, you're just really confusing me here. like you're not making sense and my first instinct is that should be scum but i think even scum would make more sense here, so i must just not be understanding @.@ it's as simple as...the wagons are between super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote super then the wagons are between gb, super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote one of them why would your scumread flipping town be worse than your null read flipping town? | ||
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On April 18 2016 05:37 Tumblewood wrote: nononono when super was the counterwagon it wasn't "if i want to live i need to vote super", it was "if i don't vote super i die d1 if i vote super i die d2" then everyone left super for gb and people simultaneously said that i was town, so it became "if i don't vote gb i die d1 if i vote gb i don't die" like i got so entrenched in thinking i was going to die that i didn't even see superbia as a survival wagon, just a delay death wagon okay, well just be aware that if super ever flips scum in this game i'm gonna have a hard time seeing you as town. like, here's my problem: you said you were reading super as scum. if that's true and you have the option of voting your scumread who then flips scum or voting yourself...why do you ever not vote your scumread there? maybe you're wrong and he's town but you don't even have a townread on him, you said that you thought he was scum when i asked for all your reads | ||
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tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information pretty confident that gum rels jat palmar are all town still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here | ||
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On April 18 2016 05:58 Tumblewood wrote: you're conflating "can dig as scum" with an actual scumread i made it clear that that was a total sheep and not a hard read + Show Spoiler + oh but what an opportunistic read which post was that? i mean it still doesn't make any sense to me unless you thought he was town, but given my whole game view basically centers around thinking you're scum, making yourself as clear as possible is best for everyone if you're actually town here | ||
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On April 18 2016 06:00 Tumblewood wrote: rsoultin why did you switch from "total scumlord tumblewood" to "eh i could shenanny gb" ooh didn't see the reversal coming didya they were talking about shennanies and i said gb was the only one i'd be willing to shennany to | ||
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On April 18 2016 06:04 Tumblewood wrote: why do you twitch a little when you see the "tw will always vote for survival" comment from shape that's obviously linked to my eod2 and eod4 in storm and makes sense for him to bring up even if "always" has a sample size of 1 already said it. he's buss-happy as scum. i was just on a scumteam with him lol i should know you changing your behavior once he said it doesn't really mean anything about either of your alignments, though | ||
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On April 18 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote: I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim. This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred. Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him. one word for you: roleblocker | ||
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On April 18 2016 06:07 Tumblewood wrote: but why would you do that shenanny when you could lynch total scumlord tumblewood instead and why am i scum with super? i'm not afraid of bussing and it makes no sense to try and "save" superbia there when he's obviously going to die one way or another [unless he's blue] same word for you xP because i wanted you or gb if i couldn't have you and it looked like people wanted a different lynch. this really isn't rocket science | ||
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On April 18 2016 06:08 Tumblewood wrote: and if shape were bussing that's some really weak bussing 0 towncred to be extracted there yeah i'd reaaaallly like to say that would actually stop him lol >< that said it's not like i'm calling him scum for it, just not willing to put him up with my fairly certain towns, so it's pretty much a moot point | ||
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On April 18 2016 06:14 Tumblewood wrote: where did the gb read come from though there was no scumread at all until 5 minutes before deadline you're not reading my filter. read the filter of your top scumread that you're trying to "grill" before you say things like this | ||
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On April 18 2016 06:16 Tumblewood wrote: oh wait here it is the only time you actually scumread gb "getting more and more okay with it" read my filter don't pick one post from my filter and say it's the only time | ||
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On April 18 2016 06:18 rsoultin wrote: read my filter don't pick one post from my filter and say it's the only time like seriously, if you're town this game you're playing god-awful and should be lynched. i'd be sad to be wrong but not feel sorry for you at all after lying about shit and your EoD behavior that makes no earthly sense. but if you're mafia this game, and i think you are, a little friendly advice: do your research before you go on the attack cause you really do look like an over-aggressive moron and yes, scummy, when you sit there and cherry pick like this instead of actually verifying that what you're saying is true. it is extremely easy for me to refute you right now cause you're just firing away without thinking or checking | ||
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yeah the reason you're both probably wrong here is simple: tw's play makes no sense from town. two lynches and the opposite is your scumread you vote your scumread 100% every single time unless you're an idiot. hell even if you're townreading him you should probably do that, but if not at the very least be pushing an opposite lynch what you guys are saying is that scum couldn't have made a mistake and instead it's more likely that either tumble is doing things that almost never come from town AS town and not voting a scumread OR that he's not voting on town AS scum i think it's actually really simple and scum just made a mistake here. could i be wrong? sure. i admit it. i really don't think so though, and it makes way more sense then the other two scenarios i just laid out for you | ||
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On April 18 2016 06:26 Tumblewood wrote: timespan of rsoul read on gb early d1 (14th - 15th) slight tr to null middle d1 (15th to one hour before deadline) throwaway "getting okayer with lynching" near deadline (one hour to ten minutes before deadline) ??? basically everything is about me deadline (and the preceding ten minutes) ya let's shenanny gb do you really want me to quote all the times i mentioned gb? or are you going to go back into the filter, take your time, and realize that the read progression is there, clear and you should be apologizing rather than making yourself look more stupid? | ||
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On April 18 2016 06:23 gumshoe wrote: even so, the bit about tumble calling for a vig onto super / : Also, unlike tumble, super considered tumble scummy and had no problems killing him and doing whatever it took to survive. This scenario is explained best by tumble being red and super being green. super- wanted tumble killed, did everything he could to kill him. Motive- It is worth any price to ensure that a scummer gets lynched tumble- wanted super dead, but as soon it looked like a matter of one of them having to be scum, tumble dodged. Motive- it does not matter if super dies first, a 1 1 trade is never good for scum. One acts as if the death of the other is worth any cost not only because it will exonerate him, but because for a townie it is absolutely worth it to die if it means a scummer dies too The other is considering not how to lynch scum, but rather how to prolong his own life / : see what I'm getting at? i understand you, gum. i just don't see a point for a scum tw to not lynch a town super any more than i do for a town tw not to lynch a scumread super -shrugs- unless he's just decided to give up as scum, but that's not what the EoD looked like and obv if super is rb that would explain why he'd be fine bussing and tw would be inclined to try to save him. i really just think they made a mistake | ||
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On April 18 2016 06:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I just agreed with the sentiment that tw and super aren't mafia together, I thought. yeah i know | ||
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On April 18 2016 06:34 gumshoe wrote: read mah last post : P makes a better highlight of it. Scum cant just play out things like a townie. They need to get more bang for thier buck as thier lives are move valuable. Killing Gb, then super, is way better than just killing super. It was not an elaborate ploy to avoid the death of ether scummer. and as I said, neither could have anticipated the gb fuck up, because super claimed before that happened. Which means, if super is scum he made an uber shady claim(can you deny the heat hes got for it?) in order to keep living, thereby robbing his scum mate of a better position and hurting the scum team overall, just so that he could keep going. tldr, it is more likely that tw and super are both town as opposed to both scum(though yeah, tw is probs scum). For reals Rsoul, your read doesn't really work ) : would require not only a fuck up from scum, but just really selfish shit play for no real reason. i really fail to see the benefit of letting yourself be killed over town as scum, gum. i know i wouldn't. you can always try to talk your way out of a lynch d2 it's kinda retarded not to do it. i have seen scum players let themselves die over a roleblocker, and i have seen even stupider shit like when my own scummate pretended to be afk during her lynch so they didn't see that she didn't vote for her scum buddy, but then posting right after the flip which revealed she'd been there the whole time and basically confirmed my other scummate scum of course it works. it works because players aren't perfect and because generally scum teams prefer to keep their roleblocker alive | ||
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^ i'm not trying to be mean here tumble, i'm really not. it's actually a compliment to think that you couldn't play this way as town. i really don't want to believe you're this bad. and if you are town...well...i'm not trying to insult you but it's super awful play lol >< one of the easiest things to do is be honest and vote for survival on a scum read | ||
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On April 18 2016 06:43 gumshoe wrote: I think having your scummer in a good position in thread is far more important than keeping the Rb alive. Whats more, thier actions set it up so they were both likely to die, Super's claim did scum very few favours if they were both scum. That said, it doesn't matter if we disagree on what scums priorities were. We have common ground on Tw, so we start there and see where it takes us / : lol true ^^ just promise me that if vig shoots super and i'm not around...or if super ever flips and i'm not around...(obv if he flips town that's moot lol)...you won't rule out tw based on this reasoning i'd be really fucking surprised if tumble were town this game | ||
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On April 18 2016 06:44 justanothertownie wrote: The scummy thing about it is that shape was completely oblivious to what happened in the thread. He doesn't feel the "towny vibes" and just because of that he ignores everything else that happens? Like superbia claiming a role etc? yeah i hear ye. i think the reason the bussing in particular sticks in my head is i've seen him vote on the scum wagon (mine! lol) when he knows they won't be lynched just to be on the right wagon later. of course he could just be town voting on who he thinks is scum, and that can be true even while being oblivious...some people just go their own way...but yeah which actually is a good point anyway i can check your filter real quick but shape what was your read on gb? | ||
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On April 18 2016 06:50 gumshoe wrote: Last thing, if tumble was scum I dont think he was letting himself die, his antics were winning people over. Obiwanshinobi, sicklucker, fazers palmer gb were all pretty much down to vote superbia. and jat too was sympathetic. also tumble would have for sure switched to save his own life. that reliably gives him about 6-7 votes. So however you perceived his martyrdom, it was working out for him. still get your point lol and still want one of my strong townreads to promise | ||
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yay! \o/ | ||
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On April 18 2016 06:50 Onegu wrote: Just got my son to sleep for his nap. Why arent we talking more about the scumslip I found? oh well i mean super's behavior in general is pretty suspect. if he's trying to convince scum not to rb/shoot him, then jat going LYNCH THIS GUY right after should have been like yes, help! the more people who suspect me the better instead he gets mad at jat you may be right about the scumslip but that reaction makes no sense anyway and yeah was why when i realized that tw never voted for super and double-checked his reads the THEORY was born ^^ | ||
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prob worthwhile to look at his reads but honestly he could easily get shot anyway just cause he's palmar. still worthwhile | ||
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On April 18 2016 07:03 gumshoe wrote: I think I know what happened here, scum chose not to roll block super as he announced he was shooting palmer, so that means super is probs town vig / : or the actual vig shot the same target (more likely supers vig, seriously) o.0 um...if scum shot fazers scum is retarded we should start looking for the stupidest players in the game immediately | ||
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On April 18 2016 07:10 justanothertownie wrote: I would prefer some genuine reads on other people over another "convsersation" between you 2 though. sure backatcha...you can start with my reads post pffffft like i'm not putting effort in asshole >> | ||
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only if you want it to be nah seriously we usually hang out and play games around this time if anyone wants to | ||
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will try to make some headway in my???s at that time so if you're still in thread i hope you'll help me by either answering questions or letting me bounce ideas off you ^^ | ||
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On April 18 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote: I don't hate the Onegu argument. You shouldn't give SL a pass for this though. He bussed before and he didn't really do much to get Super lynched day1. Day2 doesn't count - noone gets credit for pushing super today. And never ever should you townread rsoultin for effort. Some food for thought: rsoul likes killing people who want to lynch her or her scummates and who can't be reasoned with. Palmar died in the night. oh psht. i hardly ever have much say in the nks early game cause i'm too nice lol this is a stupid comment...not that i'm not happy to have palmar out of the game. his blind push on me over nothing was frustrating @.@ just say that townreading me is dumb cause people don't know how to read me and be done with it though if super/tw both flip scum and y'all try to push me for tmi i may start kicking kittens | ||
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On April 19 2016 00:20 Superbia wrote: Just got home from work. I'm (probably) the doctor. i'm (probably) going to lynch you anyway ^^ unless you can explain why a "doctor" gets mad at a player talking about lynching him when he retracts his claim, since the only town reason to do it is to try to get mafia not to shoot/rb him and players wanting to lynch him can only help with that | ||
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On April 19 2016 00:24 Superbia wrote: Gonna work on dinner soon and then csgo after that. Might be around later but probably not until tomorrow. And then I'm going to movies w/ gf. x; Will try to sneak some time in between moments. yeah even if you are doctor which i doubt, you're useless and will always be a question mark, and you can't even be assed to try to spew yourself town or help the town by giving reads for when you're dead ^^ if you're town here you should be ashamed of yourself. fortunately you're probably not so there's that lol >< | ||
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On April 19 2016 00:28 Superbia wrote: I was mad at the people calling for a shot on me. Probably grouped that person in there. Like from my reaction it should've been obvious I wasn't the vigi. i can see this but honestly even if you were doc a vig shot on you would have been fine. prob better than a vig shot on fazers tbh though that shot wasn't bad either | ||
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On April 19 2016 00:30 Superbia wrote: Eh, I'm glad about both flips tonight. I think TW is very likely mafia. That's pretty much it. You can lynch me for being busy (and to a degree, lazy), but that's pretty NAI for me imo. just leave your reads behind if you're town. i'm not gonna waste time/space arguing with you | ||
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On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims. we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do like, if the real doc (assuming he's not super) had actually successfully made a save last night and we could have three confirmed towns (vig claim + doc + save) and one confirmed mafia (super) then it would be worth claiming, but i honestly don't think the doc should cc here. i mean if he decides to i get it cause confirmed mafia is still good but i at least am lynching super anyway. if most of the rest of the town is, we don't need to give mafia that info | ||
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On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game. The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town. This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim. i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims super/tw/ows <- braglist super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/ | ||
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On April 19 2016 01:14 gumshoe wrote: well see / : if super doesnt flip rb, your double scum day 1 lynch theory falls apart : P lol yeah i've only ever gotten the entire scumteam before a single mafia flip once, and that was later in the game, but a girl can dream ^^ super and tw (who btw has also gone awol lately) just seem scummy to me independently and it just fits in my head so so well...though i should prob check the voting and see if ows actually fits in that world or not tbh i don't remember where he was voting at eod | ||
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On April 19 2016 01:23 rsoultin wrote: lol yeah i've only ever gotten the entire scumteam before a single mafia flip once, and that was later in the game, but a girl can dream ^^ super and tw (who btw has also gone awol lately) just seem scummy to me independently and it just fits in my head so so well...though i should prob check the voting and see if ows actually fits in that world or not tbh i don't remember where he was voting at eod oh poo i'm probably wrong :/ ows was on super so that makes it less likely. oh well. i'm way ahead of myself as it is lol | ||
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On April 19 2016 01:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah, I was gonna say something about that. Vig claiming here is bad simply because there's no point - what does town get out of that aside from one confirmed townie that's practically guaranteed to get shot? how about one confirmed townie? like are you serious? | ||
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On April 19 2016 02:16 Tumblewood wrote: It's mid-D2 and I have like 2 townreads what is this rsoul why is ows scum mostly cause he's being awful (and not low content kinda normalish ows awful but legit logic awful, and i have a better impression of him than that) maybe mixed with a little paranoia from the last time i played with him when he was scum and i townread him for shit reasons all the way to lylo | ||
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On April 19 2016 02:20 Tumblewood wrote: gumshoe town if superbia scum that WoT is counterproductive as scum because it indirectly shuts down a need for a CC dude if you actually believe this about gumshoe but still are calling me scum i don't even know what to say please don't be town here please don't be town please don't be town i really don't want to call someone who is actually town stupid cause tbf when rayn does it to me it feels awful but this is just so terribly stupid >< like you've tunneled me blindly all game and you don't have the excuse of being a silly palmar to hide behind | ||
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like never never ever it is always the best play always do you understand what always means? having a confirmed town is never bad for town! and maybe you'll even get lucky and mafia will be dumb enough to fake claim/cc | ||
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On April 19 2016 02:42 justanothertownie wrote: Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort. Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment. And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming. you do realize that your entire post to ows just now was saying exactly what i said in the post you just called bogus right? -_- play and spew yourself town or i'm lynching you that's bogus rsoul, super needs to play and spew himself town or i'm lynching him -facedesks- | ||
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On April 19 2016 02:43 Tumblewood wrote: but why that post about gumshoe to support this claim I also kinda feel the same way about you; if I tunnel and you're scum it's justice, if I tunnel and you're town I'm an ass lol this is hilariously bad | ||
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On April 19 2016 01:04 rsoultin wrote: i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims super/tw/ows <- braglist super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/ On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote: we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do like, if the real doc (assuming he's not super) had actually successfully made a save last night and we could have three confirmed towns (vig claim + doc + save) and one confirmed mafia (super) then it would be worth claiming, but i honestly don't think the doc should cc here. i mean if he decides to i get it cause confirmed mafia is still good but i at least am lynching super anyway. if most of the rest of the town is, we don't need to give mafia that info this makes me scum this makes gumshoe town lol tw >< | ||
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On April 19 2016 02:48 justanothertownie wrote: No, you said lynching him would be better anyways if he is town because "we can never trust him" which is certified bogus. nope "the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do" i'm gonna stop arguing here cause it's nonsensical, but seriously dude. it's obvious we're saying the same thing stop being silly lol >< | ||
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On April 19 2016 03:06 justanothertownie wrote: No, it is not. You clearly said it wouldn't be bad to lynch him since he will be rbed anyways. Which is stupid. But we can stop this argument for all I care. if the only reason you have to think he's town is his claim and he's not spewing himself town in other ways, of course it is. he'll always be a question mark. now you just don't want to admit you misread my post -_- pft typical jat but yeah yeah i'll be good and stop arguing since it doesn't matter lolol <3 you remind me of lexy sometimes but yeah i still like a tw lynch. it would take a lot to convince me he's town this game. i really don't even think it's possible at this point | ||
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On April 19 2016 03:13 justanothertownie wrote: I didn't misread anything. Mislynching him is always a mistake. It's a mistake I am willing to do though because he is a good player. -facedesks- okay okay okay. i'm gonna just say you're right to appease you now because obv mislynching is a mistake -throws shoes at- | ||
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<< i was supposed to not be spamming i suck at this lol >< is there anyone you want to talk about other than tw/super cause i kinda feel like those topics have been beaten to death | ||
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On April 19 2016 05:03 justanothertownie wrote: You will surely understand that we don't really want to take your word for that the way the day1 lynch went. You claimed last minute to save yourself which is the correct thing to do as either alignment. You claimed the not confirmable role. Your day1 sucked. You tried to go after Palmar on a weekend when you should know better - it was the most mafia agendaish and opportunistic thing I have seen a player do in ages. Town Palmar also wanted you dead very badly and randomly died in the night. If you are the town doc it is your own goddamn fault that you were up for lynch and had to claim. Now it is your goddamn job to convince us that you aren't just a lazy scummer who tries to get the most out of a logical fakeclaim. That's not asking too much. <3 nah, seriously, if you're actually the doc (and uncc'd here) that almost everyone still wants to lynch that says a lot more about the quality of your play than ours | ||
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i'm not saying your theory is impossible. there are people like shape out there >> but if scum's doing that they're being pretty optimistic to think that someone who wouldn't obviously be vig shot over palmar would be vig shot fazers/onegu/super/maybe tw/maybe ows/maybe sl <- like all of these are more like vig shots than palmar if scum really had that as their plan i'm not sure what to say @.@ | ||
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kinda...not really...seeing the narrative here though -ducks- like if they're actually discussing how to deal with it in qt as you think they are, do you think they wouldn't go hey maybe shouldn't post at once on top of that? like why would both come out to handle it? lol | ||
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-pokes- let's pretend we're both not scum to each other and talk reads! \o/ | ||
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On April 19 2016 12:45 gumshoe wrote: as you already know, I dont have a very high opinion of the scum team (the palmer vig shot plan) them not thinking to divide eachothers protests is a perfectly viable expectation of the profile well have of them once super flips. also maybe this is just me bieng a bit arrogant, but if you were the scum team and the one dude everyone thinks is town (for derp or skill, pick your poisen) who was totally cool with you till now suddenly calls you both out, Is a little panick not to be expected? the alternative is sheer fucking luck / : o.0 i'm not saying super can't be scum (i wouldn't be voting him if i didn't think he was) but i am saying that hoping to claim palmar as a vig shot is a bit of a stretch, and you probably shouldn't base all your assumptions on how the scum team is composed and how they'll operate on that (just as i shouldn't base my scumhunting on my super/tw narrative even though it's tempting) | ||
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well i honestly didn't have a hard third to begin with so completely back to the drawing board for me ^^ like i kinda still think you're scum but that post just felt townie to me @.@ aaaaaand it's not going to help you or i get untunneled if you're actually town if all we do is snipe at each other so why not give it a shot? | ||
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what i can get done in an hour anyway...class tomorrow (which btw won't be around much because of that until an hour or so before lynch) and can't stay up too late ^^ | ||
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On April 19 2016 12:54 gumshoe wrote: rsoul, if super flips scum, we know two things about them. 1 they set it up so that if palmer died it would match supers potential vig claim 2: They shot palmer I dont think this is that big a stretch / : eh idk like i just went actually think it might be more likely for mafia to do that to frame super than the other way around, but then i thought well...they'd have to be pretty sure super wasn't vig then so prob not maybe. it still seems very retarded :/ i guess when you're desperate you might think it could pay off so why not? | ||
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gum/jat/rels still top towns like yeah ^^ i think...i may...want to do the insane...and actually put sl here, too. and what's worse is i'm not even sure why lol it just feeeeeels like he's toooooown cause of engagement and i know jat will jump all over me for this but the only thing i have to say is feeeeeeels <- i can't explain these bad boys. and given it's sl there's not a whole lot else i can use anyway especially pre-mafia flips shape bugs me cause of lots of little things really and i'm not sure how valid they are cause i don't think i've ever played with him when i wasn't mafia before and i'm a baddy and don't pay close enough attention when i don't have to figure people out but this concentrating on irrelevant things today just doesn't make me feel good about him not as sure on tw cause of bad reasons @.@ | ||
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On April 19 2016 13:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm super tempted to townread SL for being the voice of reason here. lol i hope you realize how awful that reason for townreading sl would be maybe not as awful as feeeeeeels but then again, maybe worse | ||
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On April 19 2016 13:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Don't you think I'm mafia or something? Why do you even care? nah lol i was tinfoiling hard. i'm not sure what you are but if you're mafia it's not for insisting we shouldn't lynch super i was being kinda retarded there i still don't think i've seen much brilliance from you. i actually am accustomed to seeing it from a town ows even if other people might say differently | ||
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On April 19 2016 13:16 Tumblewood wrote: no pls rsoul go back to being scum I liked you when I could dismiss everything you said sigh why is rels a top town for you? also why isn't ows town mmm it may mostly be he's been agreeing with me a lot i'm not gonna lie. i'm susceptible to thinking that someone seeing the game the same way i am for the most part is more likely to be the same alignment. but also he just reminds me of a nicer, calmer version of rayn who likes to focus on the logic behind things and tends to think illogical=scum and that's what his play looks like to me here ows is paranoia and yeah i'm waiting for the brilliance. he's like the anti-rels...we've barely agreed on anything after my scattershot in the dark early d1 reads | ||
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we're so not on the same page it isn't even funny, and while that's fine, i don't remember seeing a post from you that just made me go oh hey that's smart could be town ^^; | ||
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On April 19 2016 13:17 sicklucker wrote: I should prop read rsouls filter I ignored her completely because I dont think id ever lynch her day 1 as town. But well auto lynch today lazy tada i betrayed the heart of the town!palmar by reading him correctly and having too many "confident" reads in my lynch maybe lynch no lynch d1 reads lists lol >< but have fun. i know how much you looooooove reading my posts | ||
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On April 19 2016 14:48 sicklucker wrote: like your just going to have to trust me. hes not the doctor of course he's not the doctor | ||
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On April 19 2016 18:15 Rels wrote: What happened to "when he's town we usually don't agree" ? when i'm town i usually don't sit here around d2 talking about the logic behind claims or pushing someone for a discrepancy like with tw -shrugs- it was just soooooo bad i couldn't see it coming from town. i think there's a remote chance it might have come from town though now mind-boggling as that is basically, i logicked more this game than i usually do this early lol >< | ||
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On April 19 2016 20:42 sicklucker wrote: but who is the doctor? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/EhheF9U.jpg) the world may never know... how many licks does it take to get to the center of tootsie pop? | ||
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On April 19 2016 22:41 JustAnotherScummer wrote: I do it as either aligment Though, list the small things. We still have like 8 hours left of discussion. remind me during the night phase...little twitchy things like the doc role focus and your eod stick in my mind but i know there were other, smaller ones that i've now forgotten lol and i'm off to class it may be true that you do this as either alignment. i know that some players like koshi and vivax actually spew themselves town by doing it but in general when people are kinda disconnected like that it's cause they don't know what to talk about so usually scum | ||
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"you guys are so awful to think i'm scum when i'm an uncc'd doc but claimed under pressure on d1 and have done jack shit since" makes him scum it's that awful reaction to jat's response ^^ i could maybe see it maaaaaybe from him not wanting to be vig shot when he's bound to be rb'd anyway if he's actually not scum, but that falls off in the face of his lack of activity, and it's just way more likely he was mad cause he was hoping people would townread him instead of dodge mafia actions like a real blue posting that would be doing | ||
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On April 20 2016 06:18 Superbia wrote: You're in my PoE scum list. Together with TW and SL. Maybe RSO scum. Maybe Obi bc TMI. lol assuming you're even still here, what changed between not playing and townreading me and then not playing and scumreading me? xP epiphany? did your cornflakes say it? | ||
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On April 20 2016 06:27 JustAnotherScummer wrote: No, the cornflakes tell me not to have sex. Duh. I never TR you....lol. At least I don't think I have. o.0 um hi shape. how are you? did you want to talk about something? lol...weren't you the gambler's luck or whatever dude? not that it matters, but that post wasn't to you goober ^^ | ||
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On April 20 2016 06:28 Superbia wrote: Thought it was town bc aggressive and possibly thinking of saving doc. Then I realized idk where the fuck town is at this game so it might as well be mafia fucking this game right in the ass. well i mean obv if you're town, i could be the coolcat scum who gets you lynched without even a cc ^^ idk if i would or not tbh so that's fair to think that. if you're town (though tbh i think you just read what jat said and thought ha something i can piggyback on, when jat still doesn't get that i never said we should ALWAYS lynch you here lol ><) | ||
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like that was why my reaction to ows was so strong, cause that's exactly what scum would want, a d2 doc claim if they're being lynched if super can't shit town rainbows he can just die | ||
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On April 20 2016 06:36 justanothertownie wrote: Hey, you said I was right. No backsies. lol i did say you're right that lynching the doc would be a mistake ^^ | ||
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On April 20 2016 06:46 sicklucker wrote: that was before fazzers flipped tho was it not? well i mean...if it was a plan it was a hail mary...like well maybe we'll get lucky and the vig shot will allow him to claim, but i doubt their entire plan for moving forward hinged on it | ||
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On April 20 2016 06:47 Superbia wrote: Yet you guys are treating the game like I was CCed. Nice info you're getting from this flip. no, we're treating you like you're a vt and expecting you to do shit. that's what we're doing. you haven't. end of story like the real doc here should be fighting tooth and nail and giving out reads and trying to illuminate the day and you're not. it is 100% your own fault if you're doc here and not only played so badly in a generally inactive game that you had to claim d1 PLUS got an extra 72 hours and couldn't be assed to do any work like, seriously, if you flip town here my respect for you has dropped significantly, and don't you fucking dare call us bad | ||
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On April 20 2016 06:50 Superbia wrote: I don't always have time. Inactivity is NAI for me. bad | ||
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On April 20 2016 06:51 Superbia wrote: Also doesn't help that I have to claim fucking d1 to stay alive. bad | ||
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On April 20 2016 06:54 Superbia wrote: I'm still dying to town lolol. At least I am VT. if you are this is even worse | ||
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AND ROLEBLOCKER TOO SUCK IT BITCHES! in b4 ppl lynch me this game for tmi lolol >< | ||
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On April 20 2016 07:02 sicklucker wrote: tmi for realz tina lol ikr? i really just want to rub it in palmar's face later though ^^ course it would be better if i got more right than just the guy he also thought was scum lol >< | ||
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On April 20 2016 07:04 gumshoe wrote: Sigh, had to be the fucking rb, am disappoint T-T RB is great. RB means scum has to kill doc -flicks- don't be so attached to your theories lol >< | ||
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lolol not sexytime sexy lexy. get your head out of the gutter -flicks- (really if you want we play boardgames and stuff and we like to share ^^) | ||
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On April 16 2016 13:38 Tumblewood wrote: I'm skeptical on your Superbia read, rsoul. On April 16 2016 13:39 Tumblewood wrote: And by that I mean your only evidence is Superbia saying "Hey I'm not going to be here" and then not being here. Attributing that to scum burnout is a huge conclusion-leap. On April 16 2016 14:11 Tumblewood wrote: where I'm at right now: null most people don't want to lynch gumshoe because innocent town rels because actually trying ows because actually trying palmar because in Devil I lynched him day 1 and I never got to play with him could lynch today rsoul because all her answers are kind of meh superbia because AFK; prefer vig shot you didn't post between these, tumble...if you're skeptical of my read and even think i'm scum, why is super in could lynch and not in null? | ||
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On April 20 2016 08:18 gumshoe wrote: he didnt agree he still thinks im wrong probs XD for what it's worth, so do i ^^ i really don't think that super's general lack of content should be read into overly much. he barely talked about anything. so him not talking about sl and ows isn't a reason to scumread them in my opinion | ||
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On April 20 2016 10:16 Tumblewood wrote: TW approved townies gumshoe jat also probably town rels sl ows not lynching onegu lynch pool rsoul jashape sheeping me is encouraged well you're missing at least one and delusional besides given how little cred you have this game...but really i'd rather know your reasons fleshed out and if super's flip has effected any of these reads any | ||
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On April 20 2016 09:50 Tumblewood wrote: I can have the same read as someone but still think their reasons are bad. what were those bad reasons? because frankly your reason looks like a shallower version of mine (afk is not actually alignment indicative for anyone) | ||
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On April 20 2016 10:26 Tumblewood wrote: why? do you not see all the wine in front of superbia's dead body? shape has contributed impressively little for a six-page filter; all his reads are short or unoriginal (or occasionally outright bad) or most of all nonexistent yeah you're just scum to me. i keep trying to see it in another light and it's simply not happening. the facts are this: you would vote for gb (null read) but not for super (scum read) for survival (and super is now confirmed mafia rb) super has you in his scum list with palmar and sl but never really pushes you until d2, and you only make the list after you were caught lying you lied about why you said something. no ifs ands or buts oh, and this one's more personal but still good: you townread jat for shutting down the doc cc but not me, even though i did it first and it's now clear that super was the mafia rb which means i should be about 100x more likely to be town to everyone, since his doc claim could only be an attempt to draw out the doctor and both jat and i would have to have been actively working against our wincon to do as we did. that you recognized this was a town trait but didn't apply it to both is highly suspect tw for d3 lynch ^^ lock it in folks | ||
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On April 20 2016 10:34 Tumblewood wrote: Super's flip has not affected those reads, really, because everyone stood in the same position on him. Maaaybe ows for his "lynching uncc'd doc bad" comment, but I don't think that's ows trying to save his obviously hopeless scum partner. Of course I have no cred you're not allowed to have cred until you have thirty games played (ignoring the part where half the game is scumreading me), but that doesn't mean I don't want people to listen to me. And lack of cred doesn't mean lack of right I'm also not missing one... that's eight and four have flipped and one is me missing at least one scumlet sweet cheeks | ||
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On April 20 2016 10:44 gumshoe wrote: you know Sick, just want you to know regardless of your alignment, I am rather enjoying you this game : D you is a good guy (even though your a bad guy XD) pssst ise got a secret for you >> sl is totes my town-bro this game | ||
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On April 20 2016 10:48 gumshoe wrote: psshhhh there are no town bros, only slightly less suspicious players. pssst you're my town-bro too ^^ ise not afraid to be wrong! \o/ circle of townie wonderness: gum,jat,sl prooooobably rels but i do want to poke back through his filter cause he can scum it up with the best of them lol, we'll call him an honorable mention | ||
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lol that's the beauty of it no? idk i think i'm just going to pretend my kinda could be townie feelings on shape are stronger than they are for now...like he was pretty meeeeh without scummates to buss in our last game, just lots of fluff, and there's more to chew on here from what i can see. that "scum is in here" though with super if shape is scum is so totally the sorta thing he'd pull though lol >< | ||
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On April 20 2016 10:50 rsoultin wrote: pssst you're my town-bro too ^^ ise not afraid to be wrong! \o/ circle of townie wonderness: gum,jat,sl prooooobably rels but i do want to poke back through his filter cause he can scum it up with the best of them lol, we'll call him an honorable mention promoting rels to circle of townie wonderness lol fluidity not just in reads but tonally it'll do doggie it'll do | ||
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townie circle: jat (cc shut down + reasons), rels (sexy + reasons), gum (uber!excite + reasons), sl (feels + reasons) townleans: shape (doesn't look like standard bussy buss regardless of who flips scum), ows (vote on super d1 + hard align on doc cc prob isn't going to come from scum when thread sentiment is pulling the other way) scumlean: onegu (actually too active o.0 one caveat to this i won't mention) scum: tw lock and load tw/onegu (excepting 1 caveat) though tbf i think either of my townleans i could be wrong on cause they're kinda weak ^^ over and out folkets | ||
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On April 20 2016 11:10 Tumblewood wrote: there are two reasons you should ever scumread me this game:
anything else is stupid and should be replaced by copying and pasting those two points 0. how does the post you quoted support what you said 1. good point, well done 2. idgaf what super said about me 3. good point, but if and 4. I did not remember who said what thing about the guy we were already lynching and only noticed jat did it when gumshoe brought it up rsoul scores 2 out of 4 and a half i've been known to change my mind but posts like this won't convince me, and you'll never lynch me ever so you'd prob do best focusing your attention somewhere else...i really don't have much more to say unless anyone has something worthwhile to discuss ciao! | ||
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On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote: As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch. <3s sl...no worries. you get your townie points, too, lol | ||
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On April 20 2016 13:06 sicklucker wrote: No i mean like he was seeing if there was interest. why the hell would you tr him for that. he thought it was a dumb idea -shrugs- if that were the only reason i had him as town you might have a point, but it's not, so doesn't really matter my main point is scum doesn't shut down a cc when scum clearly intended to try to get one. it's not just uncoordinated play; it's flat-out stupid and jat isn't stupid | ||
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On April 20 2016 20:26 Onegu wrote: Me? Nope. Just this is like the 3rd person in the last few months with scumslips... Other than that I got nothing. oneguuuuuu please tell me the one time you've called me town in ages (apart from that amazing lylo win against ows <3) you're town. pretty please? cause i don't think you are :/ the saaaadness | ||
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On April 20 2016 23:31 justanothertownie wrote: I am pretty sure I said we should lynch him all day and had my vote on him before you said anything about it. If I was mafia with him I would try to make him do things in the qt and not in the thread. Considering his behaviour scum knew the whole day he wouldn't try at all. So why would I ever write something like that when it clearly only gets stupid people to scumread me? lol okay tbh this abrasiveness is also part of my townread on jat though i'm not sure if he'd do it as scum so that's why i didn't mention it earlier lol >< and no i won't be able to explain the difference between his natural argumentativeness that is often taken wrong and actual abrasiveness so don't even ask. just saying what's part of my read not trying to get anyone to agree @shape...yeah i'm just calling you town right now. like i get you want me to go into things in depth when it was mostly gut to begin with, and you might be using that to try to read me, but the things i remember are: - not liking your approach as a smurf in general cause it was annoying to read and just fluffy in a lot of places, though you did point out some decent things in the fluff which is why i wasn't really considering you for a d1 lynch too much - the eod vote on tumble (this i could still see a scum!shape doing, though ironically i think it's actually more likely if tumble ends up being scum) - the doc divergence (kinda out of the blue while everyone else is talking about actually relevant things <- and i saw a lot of this in the game we were just scum in) - the comment on scum being in that list was just soooo like silly scum!shape lol but obv you could do that as town, too ^ none of this makes you scum. some of it i could see coming from scum though so it's hard for me to confidently townread you that and i'm just generally not that interested cause i think i fully understand why palmar warns for telling anyone about any type of host interaction. much as i don't want to read into it...it's tilting you toward the town side of null lol >< like i can go into it more but i almost think it's unsporting to do so since you're not an easy townread right now, and it's not 100% anyway just a belief i have regarding how the host would handle things so yeah tldr: just not interested in parsing your filter out when i think you're probably town anyway and other lynches take priority ^^ | ||
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i understand why some might think he could be town here, and i'm not saying that i don't have any doubts. i do. he busted his balls eod d1 and some of that looked townie. some of it looked more like he was spinning his wheels since he just asked a lot of questions and didn't really try to direct the lynch anywhere basically what it comes down to me is the bare bones stuff that should never come from town - lying about why he said something - refusing to vote a scumread to save himself but then voting a nullread to save himself - reads not being informed by new info i'll sit there and go...that kinda sounded townie, like his exchange with gum, or well you know odd that he's trying that hard and martyring for super if they're scum together even if super is rb, and the doubts will creep in but especially that second point is just impossible for me to get past. town doesn't do that. knowing super was rb...scum definitely could. town wouldn't. and i can't let that slide and then eat crow end-game just cause sometimes he "feels" townie besides which...super's play looked like burn-out. he looked like an rsoul in the storm game, who still felt too guilty to not even try (doc claim, palmar push) but had trouble motivating himself anyway. rsoul played kamikaze rsoul cause of shape and kuri, and intended to dance on the lynch platform as long as possible. super hoped town would let him slide and tried to get a doc cc...if his scum team was composed of people completely not trying i don't know that he would have even done that much so i'm not saying that this CONFIRMS tw scum, but i am saying super's play doesn't make tw town at all. it's hard playing consecutive anti-town roles even for those of us who push through anyway lol >< (and no this is not me trying to beat a dead horse, this is me trying to convince anyone who isn't yet convinced that we absolutely need to lynch tw next phase. if i die and you don't and he turns out to be scum i will be very angry! and if you just want to get me to stop harping on it >> that's an okay reason to get behind the lynch too lol) | ||
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On April 20 2016 23:56 justanothertownie wrote: Yes, one of the reasons I have my doubts about him being scum too. unrelated, but do you not live in the U.S. anymore? (i may or may not be asking cause lex and i are composing a visitation list for when i bebop into the netherlands this summer lol ^^) related, are you where i'm at on reads or do you disagree somewhere? i know you and rels were duking it out earlier over something that i kinda just data-dumped cause i didn't really agree with either side (i think...probably. might be alzheimers) | ||
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On April 21 2016 00:12 Rels wrote: JAT for some reason I thought you voted Superbia D1 ? Tumble not jumping on Superbia but jumping on GB is a indeed a good point considering Superbia was RB. well i mean, if that matched his reads it wouldn't be nearly as significant (though still odd) superbia was one of his scumreads gb was a nullread this is what i think never comes from town being lynched here. a town player would have no reason not to vote the counterwagon, especially when he was scumreading him | ||
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On April 21 2016 00:16 justanothertownie wrote: Unsurprisingly I don't have as much or as strong townreads as you do. SL irritates me because not long ago he said I was a really easy townread and this game he is doing everything he can to be able to scumread me. Like calling me "one of the best scummer" or something like that which is extremely uncharacteristic for him. There are other reasons for why he isn't someone I would go for in the near future though. Gumshoe is fine for now. Rels is basically null because there are some townie things and some scummy about him. Not my prefered lynch though. OWS is more or less the same. I would be more confident about him being town had he actually pushed the cc thing. He just complained and did nothing about it. Which sadly is something I could see town Obi do though. Onegu can die in a fire. I never lived in the U.S.?! bad tina memory! lol sorry (no we don't need to keep talking about this in thread -slinks off-) okay so we're kinda along the same page then. well idk like i do think it would be worthwhile to go back and make sure ows doesn't have outs and things in-thread and not just go voting rb over possible bad town/possible scum means he's town (not making that mistake again ><) but it does drop him in priority for me idk though the complaining and doing nothing (i assume you mean in the form of actually voting) is a bit suicidal for you to do as scum when thread sentiment is clearly grinding toward a super lynch? like i know that's not the best reason to townread anyone. i know for a fact it's something i'd be fine doing myself depending on the circumstances. just not really sure ows is that...hm what's the word? brash? arrogant? flashy? as a scum player. from what little experience i've had with his scum game he's more of a simpering blender (<3s ows >> that's not meant to be offensive btw i do the simpering stuff too depending on the situation) | ||
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^ definition of a town filter from a player who knows how to play for me tbf i know his scum game is good lol >< but i don't think it's quite that good. the fluidity and breadth in particular is pretty hard to accomplish as scum, at least for me | ||
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On April 21 2016 00:31 justanothertownie wrote: Erm, yes? That is exactly my point. If he would have been more vocal/stubborn about it I would have a stronger townread on him. That would be flashy/brash etc as mafia. Just complaining about it without doing stuff is more like scum OWS. But yeah he was the first to vote superbia day1 it seems. Good for him. yeah i see your point ^^ you've also played with him more and i'm honestly skittish about him fooling me again lolol >< i prob should look and see if he gave himself outs like he did before when i missed the obvious. that would be smart. yup | ||
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On April 21 2016 00:34 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, if you ever flip scum rels is like 95 % town ^^ lol if you honestly think it's possible for me to flip scum this game, i've really hit the next tier of scum!goddess or you just don't pay enough attention to my play from game to game (which would actually be fair cause yeah pretty sure the brain cancer thing is a widespread opinion) bueno, where was i going with this? oh! yeah d1 vote is dropping back to nai. he was clearly open to shennanies before they happened so it doesn't mean much. i think i'll follow you and null read ows lol >< though it's not substantially any different since i'd probably lynch him before shape anyway | ||
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On April 21 2016 00:43 Rels wrote: lol rsoul I forgot you were writting everything in spanish early on. Apparently it was too hard to keep up ^^ >> lol god it takes me like 4x as long to do it that way >> i prob should have given how much i spammed this game but...okay you want the honest truth? part of why i dropped it (apart from frustration at palmar lol ><) was it was so damn slow that me capping my spamming wasn't really helpful lol >< part was laziness \o/ | ||
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On April 21 2016 00:47 justanothertownie wrote: Lucky you. I might have policy lynched you for it. -shrugs- doubt it lol no one would have followed that policy lynch unless they had reasons of their own ^^ @gum you know, you could have just tldr'd it to say: i'm frustrated that y'all are dismissing my reads please don't confuse not agreeing with your reasons as dismissing your reads. i will admit that when i see a case built mostly around narrative (and yes, yours fall in that category) i'm predisposed to kinda just skim them. but that doesn't mean that i don't go gum thinks obi and sl are scum. i don't agree with his reasons, but i'm pretty sure gum is town so maybe he's seeing something i'm not? and then go back and look at obi and sl again and come to my own conclusion i'm sorry if that's not as satisfying as going WOW great case SHEEPLE NOW! but i mean, if i don't find your arguments compelling i simply don't :/ people often don't find mine compelling so at least we're in good company lol | ||
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On April 21 2016 01:00 gumshoe wrote: It's fine im not actually angry XD just worried. Think of it from my view, I think sl and obi are scum, regardless of wether I am right or wrong, everyone currently disagrees. I dont know what docs thinking (nor would I ask him to divulge XD) so from my view, I may very well be about to die and theres no one to else really pushing my reads So yeah, I am doing whatever I can to ask town to me lend me their ear for what could be mah last thang / : cause if I didnt do that I would feel like I did not do everything I possibly could to win (within the rules XD) that's fair ^^ i'm sure your reads won't be dismissed outright; if they are that's on the town still in the game, not you | ||
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On April 21 2016 03:07 Tumblewood wrote: You don't claim your scum partner scumslipped and confirmed someone else as town (and keep telling everyone to make sure they all know) when clearly no one else saw it as that. It's counterproductive as scum and really useful as town (at least to the townie). Eh, wrong but could see why someone might think it. Could do it to distance. | ||
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On April 21 2016 06:11 JustAnotherScummer wrote: I was keeping up at college, but I've forgotten most of what i read. I do remember Rsoul responded to me about the little things. @Rsoul, ok, I was just doing what you told me to do ^^. I am town this game, so not reading my filter isn't a issue. But note that in both scum games I've played, not reading my filter was why I stayed alive so much. So for later games (or even this one) make sure you do it. Rels feels great IMO. Tumble still feels like crap. I got to read on OWS's filter. There were things I didn't like from D2, but might not actually make him scum. lol read your filter goober, just didn't reread the thread -flicks- | ||
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On April 20 2016 11:15 rsoultin wrote: lol okay yeah townie circle: jat (cc shut down + reasons), rels (sexy + reasons), gum (uber!excite + reasons), sl (feels + reasons) townleans: shape (doesn't look like standard bussy buss regardless of who flips scum), ows (vote on super d1 + hard align on doc cc prob isn't going to come from scum when thread sentiment is pulling the other way) scumlean: onegu (actually too active o.0 one caveat to this i won't mention) scum: tw lock and load tw/onegu (excepting 1 caveat) though tbf i think either of my townleans i could be wrong on cause they're kinda weak ^^ over and out folkets ^ this with ows at null do not forget viva la resistance! | ||
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gg rels, great job. you too, sl @tumble...i would be happy to coach you or let you shadow if you like and i'm sure there are others who would too...there's no reason to remain the path of least resistance and i saw some good play in devil from you | ||
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On May 02 2016 07:05 justanothertownie wrote: And you started blatantly lying today too.... lol -pokes jat- ise sorreh bad rsoul reads should never be sheeped lolol | ||
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On May 02 2016 07:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Can we just give the win to SL and Rels both? +1 both played really good games imo | ||
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On May 02 2016 07:07 Tumblewood wrote: Yeah I'm going to stop playing for a while (probably just a week or two... I have a problem) because I've lost the motivation to really case anyone. My play in Devil was bad but worked because it was my first town game and I had lots of time, shoulda chosen XX before I went AFK. I wholeheartedly agree with Palmar's statement that the number one factor in your success is the amount of time you put in. I might take you up on the coaching, but you really can't teach activity. nah but i may be able to teach not lying, voting for your scumreads and voting in lylo xP in all seriousness though there are plenty of lower volume players who aren't lynchbait. there are some pretty simple ways to look townie and honestly i think you've got plenty of potential so i don't want to see you get too discouraged ^^ anyway, standing offer. enjoy your break! | ||
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if you can't decide between the two and you're faced with lynching rels or tumble...the thought of lynching rels and being WRONG would just be like gah! no choice, have to lynch tumble lol >< (honestly if someone can't spew themselves town they really should be lynched earlier imo...so at least you can recover from the mistake) | ||
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On May 02 2016 07:19 ritoky wrote: i disagree quite a bit with this activity in lylo is a bad metric, particularly for someone who is going to tryhard regardless of alignment or be inactive regardless of alignment. plus all of the stuff on rels saving the RB was extremely compelling and made him borderline slamdunk mafia. your reads are always so good when you're the host | ||
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On May 02 2016 07:20 rsoultin wrote: your reads are always so good when you're the host also, tbh rit i was talking about if you were about equally uncertain between the two, not who should have been more scumread here if you're stuck between two people and one had generally objectively played much better than the other, it is pretty natural to prefer to vote the one who has put in less effort. i don't actually condone the "who deserves to win" mentality, but all things being equal? yeah | ||
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On May 02 2016 07:24 ritoky wrote: i mean the thread caught rels a couple times on that same piece of information repeatedly. it helps that i have a decent tell on him, but there is a point in this game after superbia dies where a bunch of the thread realizes that rels almost has to be mafia and saved superbia; then 1gu gets really mad and stuff and everyone gets distracted/amensia. even later everyone comes back to it, but never commits even though it is very compelling. the thread "caught" everyone. just most of us weren't scum | ||
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On May 02 2016 07:26 ritoky wrote: if superbia had flipped goon, i can understand ignoring it more; but most mafia players are very hesitant to sac a RB day 1 if they have the chance to save him, which to me empowers that thought quite a bit. you forget that both tw and rels saved super man @.@ that was the focal point of my push on tumble and there's a reason rels kept hammering it | ||
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On May 02 2016 07:26 sicklucker wrote: btw rstoulin you still dont think I have a god read on you? o.0 lol idk i just know i enjoy playing with you a lot ^^ you've been more accurate lately than most people though that's for sure | ||
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On May 02 2016 07:36 Tumblewood wrote: kinda want to try out voice mafia but i also have real work to do. tough choices... lol the games are pretty short ^^ we're getting a palmar in about 10 mins and already have 5 people | ||
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super was a fine lynch, especially because doc didn't need to cc and we didn't pussy out i personally would have shot him but that was for his overall play which had me 100% convinced he was mafia fake-claiming, particularly how he reacted to jat's comment when he was supposedly trying to wifom scum. i'm not sure that shooting anyone who claims d1 would have been the right move but honestly, jat, rayn scumreads me on the regular for bad things (like the gb progression which he either didn't understand or didn't read closely enough, or my not scumreading you because he would have for reasons similar to why i was scumreading tumble). that doesn't make him bad, though, lol. neither of you are bad and i'm pretty sure no one was terribly right at that time... | ||
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beyond that i don't know ^^ -flicks peanuts at both rayn and jat- your argument to me basically reads as * i thought you were scummy for x * but i was town so clearly it wasn't scummy like maybe there's more to it than that but you both are kiiiinda right in that jat you obviously could be scumread for wanting to vote gb instead of super when super flips scum and yet rayn, that obv doesn't make him scum cause he was town not really sure why this argument is even taking place tbh i mean it's not really like jat played bad. the lynchpin of your argument about gb was that his afking was nai, yet you're ignoring that what he posted while in thread actually was closer to how he normally plays scum than how he plays town. there was no reason for anyone to townread gb here and town obv doesn't have full info any more than you did while scumreading two town players who arguably would become two of the most townread, rayn | ||
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