On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote: we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do
Your reasoning is bogus. If he is doc then not lynching is always better because he is confirmed without a cc and we don't ever have to lynch him without mafia 1v1ing him. BUT
On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.
The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.
This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim.
This is also not optimal because if he is mafia we are outing our doctor (who is extremely important right now) for no reason. He already escaped the lynch day1. I won't hand him a doctor claim on top of that for this effort.
Super needs to stop being terrible and play the game for real sooner rather than later or we are just lynching him and I will absolutely blame him if he is town later. He isn't a scrub who can be allowed to do his. If he puts in effort/seems towny later we can still call for a cc and if there is none we lynch someone else. But without superbia trying there won't be anything else than his lynch happening today. He doesn't deserve it regardless of his alignment.
And yes, as long as this keeps going there is no real benefit for the vig claiming.
you do realize that your entire post to ows just now was saying exactly what i said in the post you just called bogus right? -_-
play and spew yourself town or i'm lynching you that's bogus rsoul, super needs to play and spew himself town or i'm lynching him
-facedesks-
No, you said lynching him would be better anyways if he is town because "we can never trust him" which is certified bogus.
nope
"the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do"
i'm gonna stop arguing here cause it's nonsensical, but seriously dude. it's obvious we're saying the same thing stop being silly lol ><
No, it is not. You clearly said it wouldn't be bad to lynch him since he will be rbed anyways. Which is stupid. But we can stop this argument for all I care.
There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants.
On April 19 2016 03:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I honestly wouldn't be super opposed to a tw lynch either - the dude just keeps spewing nonsense and he's starting to bug me.
Not a good idea to lynch tw before super, as if they are both scum, super valued his life over a better scum position in thread which means if super is not rb we can rule them both bieng scum out.
and of course super actually is scum until someone can explain to me why scum shot palmer when the only impact of that shot was a strengthening of a potential vig claim from super.
Until someone counters the second argument, we should not be lynching anyone other than super, and until someone counters the first, we should not be lynching tw ever unless super flips rb and even then, meh.
And we most certainly should kill someone because they are bad, historically townies are often just that as they dont have the full picture.
Fazers, gb and palmer were all town and they were just awful
Also everyone is pretty sure I'm town, but I was totally wrong about palmer (and probs tumble and super) and I might still be wrong about quite a few other people.
Honestly, if tumble is town(which he probs is) the only diffrence between me and him is that he cant bullshit as well / :
On April 19 2016 03:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I honestly wouldn't be super opposed to a tw lynch either - the dude just keeps spewing nonsense and he's starting to bug me.
Not a good idea to lynch tw before super, as if they are both scum, super valued his life over a better scum position in thread which means if super is not rb we can rule them both bieng scum out.
and of course super actually is scum until someone can explain to me why scum shot palmer when the only impact of that shot was a strengthening of a potential vig claim from super.
Until someone counters the second argument, we should not be lynching anyone other than super, and until someone counters the first, we should not be lynching tw ever unless super flips rb and even then, meh.
And we most certainly should kill someone because they are bad, historically townies are often just that as they dont have the full picture.
Fazers, gb and palmer were all town and they were just awful
Also everyone is pretty sure I'm town, but I was totally wrong about palmer (and probs tumble and super) and I might still be wrong about quite a few other people.
Honestly, if tumble is town(which he probs is) the only diffrence between me and him is that he cant bullshit as well / :
On April 16 2016, at14:51 PDT you felt confident enough to name jat town,
jat is town
knowing full well the consequences that would arise if you doubled back on that claim without good reason (ie the consequences your facing right now), what was the source of that confidence? Whats changed?
On April 19 2016 04:00 gumshoe wrote: Also Jat, if Tumble is scum, why do you think he feels the need to antagonize effectively everyone active in thread?
I have no idea.
There ya go XD
if hes town, hes probably just reeling like a derp.
if hes scum dafak?????????????????
so yeah, regardless of wether hes dumb or terrible or whatever other adhominem, theres no point arguing with the dude till super flips / : at which point we may very well will have confirmed him as pants+head+town.
like nobody was asking how the doc works or anything like that, yet suddenly psa? I guess we really shouldn't talk about host stuff but yeah, me is confused.
On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote: riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12
Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread.
There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants.
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it is 2 of 3 men.
Onegu jas, or... rels...
these reads assume that tumble is town though, so thats why I'm waiting on the super flip
I town read jat assuming that tumble is town, as you kind of wanted to lead the lynch away from him.
Sick lucker is town as he did straight up bus his teammate otherwise and hes post lynch bragging seems scuicidal coming from scum.
Rsoul is probs town cause effort and I dont see onegu just dropping off his vote on her if thier scum mates.
obi was also straight up bussing his mate from an early point if hes scum.
tumble is probs town if super is scum based off supers claim (unless super is rb)
Onegu's still at the top of mah list, my case before the day start hasn't changed at all, I especially hate how he supposedly "forgot" about the deadline to post his reads.
if onegu is town, he knows hes a vig target, so that kind of fuck up is huge as he honestly believes hes amazing. So he didn't care enough about his reads to get them in.
If hes scum, he was waiting to see if he got shot by vig before he wanted to offer an information whatsoever. So yeah, reaaaaaly scummy to my sight.
Jas and rels I got nothing really on, Jas's switch onto tumble instead of gj seemed to come out of nowhere but he was pushing super earlier so thats a bit odd.
It's also notable that he pushed into me and tumble early but backed off pretty fast.
rels... not sure, hes been gone a while now / : almost as if none of this matters to him.
I don't hate the Onegu argument. You shouldn't give SL a pass for this though. He bussed before and he didn't really do much to get Super lynched day1. Day2 doesn't count - noone gets credit for pushing super today.
And never ever should you townread rsoultin for effort. Some food for thought: rsoul likes killing people who want to lynch her or her scummates and who can't be reasoned with. Palmar died in the night.
fair enough / : I was 100 percent fucking wrong about super so yeah, I shouldn't really lock down a ton of reads. Still not willing to lynch anyone else until onegu and super are dead.
ya I remember your reason for not voting was because me and 3 other "scummy" people were. Nice they all flipped town :D
On April 19 2016 09:06 JustAnotherScummer wrote: These are my current reads, Not done. Finsh in morning. Comment as necessary. Might of missed X or w/e Rels- Activity doesn’t bother me about him.
ObiWanShinobi
Tumblewood - Scum (Super flip might change this) He is spewing even more crazyiness. I already have a prob. With his meta (though, hey, He could change so meh) but he did not respond to my points about it at all. He also seems to be contriction himself more than usual. His focus on defendning himself thou, does remind me of ole tumble.
Super flip also is important here.
Rsoultin - Slight town read + gamblers luck I am not great at reading Rsoul typically. Though, this time I can actually read her filter and understand it!
JustAnotherTownie -
Gumshoe - town Prob. my top town read here tbh. Like a lot of what he is doing, and is doing what he said he would do about suspicious things. I pushed him on early on, to see how he responded and to get answers for the only thing i found remotely sus. From him. Lost all sus. Mostly after his respond to my post.
Sicklucker -
1gu - Scum lean Scum slip post made my day (<3) missed those so much! Anyways, Activity really isn’t bothering me tbh (he had to replace out of the last game me and I played IIRC, that or he missed almost the whole phase.) What is bothering me about Onegu is a following of things: He really hasn’t chased after some, which I would expect from him. He calls people scum, yet doesn’t do much to go after them or question them. Kinda just seems mellow on that part. Like he can interact with his scum reads about something off topic, but he doesn’t really seem to try to get their thoughts. He does spend time talking to them/about them (Cough rsoul) yet he doesn’t actually do much. Other than call them scum again. Some tone things, I brought this up towards the end of point one. 1st one is, He scum reads “x” yet jokes with them almost all the time. Examples:
On April 16 2016 04:26 Palmar wrote: Lynch rsoultin
This
She forgot me in her list post. Means she is scum 100000000%
Also people saying they can meta read me are scum. Gumshoe. Rels, Rsoultin.
THere is your team. Thank you well played onegu.
He is also ridiculously Trolly this game as well. I’ve never seen Onegu, in all the town games I played with him, act so trolly. This might or might mean something to yall (never played with a scum Onegu so), but it is something i noticed
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